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RE: Kimmel chokes up over Cecil the lion
Lions are a threatened species. Humans aren't. I feel bad for those less well off, but humans aren't going extinct any time soon.

Further, you can be angry about the lion's death AND other unfortunate things at the same time.
08-02-2015 04:33 PM
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I'm in favor of justice for Cecil. Imagine that you get up in the morning, put in your false teeth and go for a stroll through the woods to collect your social security check, and then you get assassinated by a dentist. An old guy shouldn't have to go out like that.

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RE: Kimmel chokes up over Cecil the lion
(08-02-2015 02:13 PM)Repo Wrote:  And people are crying about an animal?

There's a tendency of people to think that animals are innocent whereas humanity is inherently not, which is probably the reason for the discrepancy. I don't subscribe to it, but the thought process is that an animal can't be judged on a moral level whereas people are at fault for whatever mess they're in because they possess human agency. It's why the plot of Avatar was so effective at manipulating people's emotions: the good guy species was part animal and therefore perceived by many as morally pure.
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(08-02-2015 07:44 PM)Saga Wrote:  It's why the plot of Avatar was so effective at manipulating people's emotions: the good guy species was part animal and therefore perceived by many as morally pure.

Interesting perspective - I'd always thought of Avatar as basically Dances With Wolves / The Last Samurai / Lawrence of Arabia in space -- white guy goes to the natives, picks up their skills in two months or less, teaches them how to fight other white guys, and then for an encore goes on to become one of them (after dishing out a humiliating defeat to other white guys, albeit in Lawrence it's a defeat dished out to other brown people allied with said white guys.)

In all cases the argument to me was always that a culture doing the same shit for thousands of years is Teh Best And Wholesome Way To Live, and that's the source of moral purity. Leaving aside that the culture involved is always technologically outgunned by the white guy's culture, and usually gets slaughtered onscreen just to show how white guy's culture is Morally Bankrupt And Doesn't Care About Trees.
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(08-02-2015 08:16 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  
(08-02-2015 07:44 PM)Saga Wrote:  It's why the plot of Avatar was so effective at manipulating people's emotions: the good guy species was part animal and therefore perceived by many as morally pure.

Interesting perspective - I'd always thought of Avatar as basically Dances With Wolves / The Last Samurai / Lawrence of Arabia in space -- white guy goes to the natives, picks up their skills in two months or less, teaches them how to fight other white guys, and then for an encore goes on to become one of them (after dishing out a humiliating defeat to other white guys, albeit in Lawrence it's a defeat dished out to other brown people allied with said white guys.)

In all cases the argument to me was always that a culture doing the same shit for thousands of years is Teh Best And Wholesome Way To Live, and that's the source of moral purity. Leaving aside that the culture involved is always technologically outgunned by the white guy's culture, and usually gets slaughtered onscreen just to show how white guy's culture is Morally Bankrupt And Doesn't Care About Trees.

That sounds ten to the second percent correct.

I'll be shocked if anyone gets that reference.
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RE: Kimmel chokes up over Cecil the lion
(08-02-2015 07:44 PM)Saga Wrote:  
(08-02-2015 02:13 PM)Repo Wrote:  And people are crying about an animal?

There's a tendency of people to think that animals are innocent whereas humanity is inherently not, which is probably the reason for the discrepancy. I don't subscribe to it, but the thought process is that an animal can't be judged on a moral level whereas people are at fault for whatever mess they're in because they possess human agency. It's why the plot of Avatar was so effective at manipulating people's emotions: the good guy species was part animal and therefore perceived by many as morally pure.

A lot of these sort of people will talk about all the evil that humans are capable of and how innocent animals with their pure hearts would never perpetuate such acts. They seem to forget that along with being incapable of evil they are also incapable of good. Cecil's friends aren't going to be starting Change petitions over the cruel treatment of antelopes or be heading committees on the humane way to hunt them anytime soon.
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(08-02-2015 12:24 AM)Eskhander Wrote:  Not sure if everything said about the dentist is true, or everything about Mugabe but he is awful.

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Mugabe did much worse than that.

Real orchestrated genocide by his North Korean trained 5th Brigade against a rival tribes (Matabele) civilians soon after independence in the early 80's. More than 20,000 dead.

He will die soon (is in his 90's) and is supposedly haunted by that time and thinks the spirits will not be kind to him in the other world so is sort of owning up to it now, despite decades of denials.
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(08-02-2015 04:33 PM)Mike5055 Wrote:  Lions are a threatened species. Humans aren't. I feel bad for those less well off, but humans aren't going extinct any time soon.

Further, you can be angry about the lion's death AND other unfortunate things at the same time.

So we should just allow genocide? Religious groups to exterminate the male members of a sect and take their women? Let countries take what they want from those who cannot defend themselves?

A lions death is sad and humans are destructive but more lions die to natural causes or other predators than man. I don't see these people choking up over mass numbers of people being pulled into oblivion in places like Iraq, Syria and some parts of Africa.
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Ricky Gervais is now trying to start his own bandwagon by attacking Rebecca Francais, who unlike Palmer is a very serious hunter.

I expect a backlash.
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Gays can marry, abortion is legal, the Confederate flag is down. Eight years of Obama and Caitlyn Jenner.

In this political climate the last thing liberals should be doing is insulting armed conservatives who know how to shoot.

Hunters are the piñatas that swing back.
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(08-03-2015 01:31 PM)Blick Mang Wrote:  Gays can marry, abortion is legal, the Confederate flag is down. Eight years of Obama and Caitlyn Jenner.

In this political climate the last thing liberals should be doing is insulting armed conservatives who know how to shoot.

Hunters are the piñatas that swing back.

That could swing back, but probably won't.

Most of them are too busy worried about being called names or perceived badly by people who hate them anyway.

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(08-03-2015 01:31 PM)Blick Mang Wrote:  Gays can marry, abortion is legal, the Confederate flag is down. Eight years of Obama and Caitlyn Jenner.

In this political climate the last thing liberals should be doing is insulting armed conservatives who know how to shoot.

Hunters are the piñatas that swing back.

I've thought about that.

Where does Obama and the rest of the left get their power? From the military and law enforcement. What if people get fed up with this SJW stuff and refuse to comply with Obama/Hillary/Sotomoyer/Diblasio et al? These guys are going to sic the military and police on dissidents?

The military and police are going to lay down their own lives and kill their own kind of people and friends and family in order to enforce: gay marriage, transgenderism, yes means yes, feminism, sexual harassment laws, political correctness, anti-police, pro-rioting, speech codes, etc etc.

Have these shitlibs thought this through?

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Dusty, you're approaching the point where the rabbit hole ends.

The ultimate goal of subversion isn't to weaken or wound a nation, it's to completely kill it off from within.

It's easy to introduce decadence into a country. America is pretty damn good at it. But polarizing a country by pulling on both ends of the same string, turning neighbors into enemies, that's an art form. When we're embroiled in civil war with violence on every street corner, you'll know our enemies' victory is complete. We're not just injured and limping along, we're completely out of the ball game.

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RE: Kimmel chokes up over Cecil the lion
Apparently Sabrina Corgatelli doesn't give a single fuck about anyone:

Basically saying, haters gonna hate.

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Kimmel better not dare criticize this woman or he'll be such a misogynist !

http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2.../31047825/

Quote:In the midst of outrage surrounding the death of Cecil the lion, an Idaho accountant is taunting the world with images of her own hunts.

Despite thousands of hateful messages, Sabrina Corgatelli has used her public Facebook page to post multiple images from a recent hunting trip to Kruger National Park in South Africa.

One post includes shows Corgatelli posing alongside a dead giraffe with the caption, "I got a amazing old Giraffe. Such a amazing animal!! I couldn't be any happier!! My emotion after getting him was a feeling I will never forget!!!"

Other prey pictured include an impala, a 13-foot-long crocodile, a blue wildebeest, a 13-inch wart hog and a "beautiful kudu."

Corgatelli has vowed to continue sharing the images and even posted a meme with an image of Leonardo DiCaprio from his role in "The Great Gatsby" that reads "To all the haters: Stay tuned, you're gonna have so much more to be p***** about."

Monday morning, she joined The Today Show to defend her decision to hunt the animals.

She told Carson Daly, "Everybody just thinks we're cold-hearted killers, and it's not that. There is a connection with the animal, and just because we hunt them doesn't mean we don't have a respect for them."

Corgatelli said she hunted the giraffe the day before she heard about the outrage over Cecil's death.

In April, outdoorswoman Rebecca Francis came under fire from the public after gleefully posting a photo with a dead giraffe. Francis has a website and Facebook page dedicated to the animals she has killed in hunts across Africa and America.

Now if you ain't eating it, I won't usually kill it.

But in this case, seeing the SJW's and bleeding hearts being intensely triggered - I'll give her a pass.

Greatest hunting troll job ever.

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She's just an attention whore, but at least giraffes are not currently a threatened species.
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(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Apparently Sabrina Corgatelli doesn't give a single fuck about anyone:

Basically saying, haters gonna hate.

[Image: 11779834_1026443690708756_4175801528965029554_o.jpg]

Kimmel better not dare criticize this woman or he'll be such a misogynist !

http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2.../31047825/

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(08-02-2015 08:52 PM)Wutang Wrote:  A lot of these sort of people will talk about all the evil that humans are capable of and how innocent animals with their pure hearts would never perpetuate such acts. They seem to forget that along with being incapable of evil they are also incapable of good.

True, beings capable of neither evil nor good can't be assigned blame. However, the mentality of animals as pure also comes most often from people who've been insulated from the dangers of nature for most of their lives. It's very easy to think of animals as innocent when you've never been genuinely worried about your loved ones being attacked by wolves or bitten by snakes or trampled by a hippopotamus or mauled by a bear. Nature, like a woman, possesses both great beauty and great danger...modern people are able to enjoy the former but can often avoid the latter.

Hunters understand the balance, it's why they're often some of the best conservationists around. It's also why poaching is rightly treated as a serious crime.
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Jimmy is a pussy, Richard Simmons is more alpha.

"this lion had 6 cubs that will now be killed by"the lion Jericho."

Snap to reality, those cubs like many ho's in the world dont know who the father is. Trying to humanize animals is laughable at best. Show me pictures of a male lion rolling around withs its cubs. Its about as rare as me laying with a chick after I bang her. Disney, Feminism...... Come on man, "A" up.
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Kenny Kaburu Wrote:We all should thank CNN, for their exemplary journalism in reporting that Cecil the Lion's brother was also a lion. Who knew?!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...nref=story

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It's such faux outrage, its not about the dentist, they're angry with their lives and themselves and they've found the perfect target to vent on. It's become like 1984, we the masses get new enemies everyday and we need to let out our frustration at something.

Thousands of animals are killed in factories and live in disgusting conditions, one lion sets everyone off, give me a break. The hypocrisy that must exist in ones mind to get worked up by a dead lion is insane.
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Some woman with a face not even Botox could cure is using a Giraffe as some sort of trophy? How impressive!

Bitch please. My dad shot a mink going full run with a pellet gun at 20 feet and he isn't even a hunter. Attention whores don't even put in any effort whatsoever these days.
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^^^Giraffe

OK, this may sound a little pedantic, but to me this sort of detail of content is important.

The Kruger National Park in South Africa does not allow professional hunting within its borders. Culling and limited "hunting" for the pot by their own officials does happen. But this woman did not shoot the Giraffe in the Kruger National Park. Would be against all sorts of laws. There is private land to the West of Kruger that is sometimes mistakenly referred to as "Kruger National Park", but it isn't. It is privately owned. It is possible that this woman shot the Giraffe on this private land, but almost all the fences between private land in the West and Kruger have been removed. A condition of the removal is "No professional hunting". Really no hunting at all. Only for the pot. So the author of the article quoted above got it wrong. It's OK for us to get things wrong here, but professional journalists should really be more detail oriented.

Anyway, going on a tangent. As mentioned above National Parks in South Africa, and in Botswana and Zimbabwe as well, actually have a problem of overpopulation of certain species. Elephant especially run rampant and have to be culled. Until recently Elephants were culled in Kruger, but due to an "outcry" the culling was put on hold a few years ago. Now they are experimenting with long lasting birth control (like Depo Provera) administered by dart shot from helicopters. But to get to the point. They have too many Elephants and if you are in a position to house them somewhere natural they will pretty much give them to you for free. But the translocation will probably cost you $100,000's. For a start you need to find a helicopter pilot who is very skilled, very experienced and very cuckoo for coco-pops. This isn't the most dramatic video, but when darting Elephant they have to fly at treetops and herd them to a prearranged position (like a sheepdog) before darting them:



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One of my favorite auto journalists wrote a superb column about this, which I will repost here without permission (hello Jack! love your work at TTAC):

Quote:The Day Social Media Decided That Black Lives Didn’t Matter After All

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Two years ago, I explained to you why Sheryl Sandberg was more important than everybody who actually died on Asiana Flight 214. Today, we’re going to do some more of that painfully uncomfortable moral calculus, that depressing measurement of “small souls”. We’re going to do it because it is painful, because it is depressing, because it is the right thing to do in the eyes of God and Man.

I’m going to explain to you why black lives don’t matter. Or, more specifically, why black lives don’t matter as much as a few other things.


Do you know who “Cecil The Lion” was? Here’s a precis of the situation if you don’t: An American dentist shot and killed a lion, supposedly after luring him off a protected reservation. The lion turned out to be a “famous” lion with a tracking collar and a name. In the weeks since it happened, the dentist has received the usual death-by-social-justice, with “SJWs” doing everything from vandalizing his Facebook page to researching various civil-courts cases to which he’s been a party. Hundreds of thousands of people have signed an online petition demanding that the dentist be extradited to Zimbabwe. A rumor was spread that the lion’s “brother” was also killed, said rumor turning out to be false.

In the wake of the outrage, most major US airlines declared they would no longer permit their customers to transport game trophies of any kind on their airplanes.

“#CecilTheLion” has been a major trending topic on Facebook and Twitter and the killing of the lion has raised worldwide attention. In Cecil’s home nation of Zimbabwe, however, people don’t seem to care about the lion’s death nearly as much as they do in the United States. Instead, Zimbabweans want to know why Americans have given an implicit stamp of approval to “pressing issues including a failing economy, a repressive regime that has been abducting its opponents, stifling the press and arresting activists”.

More hilariously, Zimbabweans seem to feel that Americans prefer lions to Africans:

Quote:“Why are the Americans more concerned than us?” said Joseph Mabuwa, a 33-year-old father-of-two cleaning his car in the center of the capital. “We never hear them speak out when villagers are killed by lions and elephants in Hwange.”

Tell me that quote didn’t make you laugh, or at least smile, a little. Of course Americans don’t give a shit when lions kill Africans. We are socialized from birth in this country to hold animals as equal to or superior to people. We watch ten years’ worth of talking-animals cartoons as children then the Internet drowns us in a sea of LOLcats and baby-animal pictures. Africans, on the other hand, rarely enter into the childhood-media equation. Furthermore, Zimbabwe is an active embarrassment to American progressives. When it was Rhodesia, it was the jewel of Africa. When white rule fell after years of Soviet fifth-column antics and outside agitation by European countries trying to atone for the sin of colonization by using the same ruinous power they’d used against black Africans on white Africans, the world cheered to see black Africans finally granted control of their destinies.

“Peace has come to Zimbabwe/Third World’s right on the one,” Stevie Wonder sang in 1980, conveniently forgetting (or perhaps never knowing) that the three-way war in Rhodesia was financed and supported by the Eastern Bloc for the purpose of eventually obtaining access to Zimbabwean resources. The strongman who took control of the country, Robert Mugabe, has been an utter nightmare for decades. After killing or displacing every white farmer in the country, a policy that turned Zimbabwe from “the breadbasket of Africa” to a recipient of foreign food aid and cost the impoverished country over twelve billion dollars, Mugabe is now talking about inviting the farmers to return. Were I a white Rhodesian, I’d think long and hard before going back.

The lesson of the Zimbabwean famine — that white Africans are people too — has been too hard for Western progressives to swallow. The descent into hell experienced by South Africans of all colors under the administration of the African National Congress has been equally embarrassing. So our media has decided to deal with the problem by ignoring it. Which means that Americans never hear about conditions in Africa, particularly not in the continent’s southern half. Out of sight, out of mind.

Which leads me back to the idea of “small souls” as previously discussed a few times on this website. The souls of black Africans feel very small to us indeed. We know nothing about them. If we have an image of a black Zimbabwean, it’s probably something out of a Disney movie or District 9 or The Economist. I’d bet a thousand bucks that if I asked the next fifty people I met to show me Zimbabwe on a map, they would point vaguely to West Africa. Nor do many Americans have any positive personal experiences with Africans in this country. I’m an exception; my day job keeps me in close contact with some pretty brilliant African immigrants. But unless you live in New York, chances are you don’t know very many people who were born in Africa. It doesn’t help matters that some of the African migrant communities in this country have organized human trafficking and slavery rings with the same kind of vicious enthusiasm their ancestors showed five hundred years ago during the era of the Triangle Trade.

It is as natural and normal for Americans raised in our media culture to value lions over people, the same way we value kittens over baby groundhogs. But there’s also a kind of cruel calculation going on, something like this: There are fewer than 20,000 lions in the world, but the supply of Africans appears to be nearly infinite. Nearly three-quarters of a million Africans shit themselves to death in 2012 and the world was in no way inconvenienced by this fact. The population of human beings in Africa reached one billion in 2009, having doubled in 27 years. It’s now 1.15 billion. To put this in perspective a bit, that means that Africa is adding people at a daily rate of 70,000.

The atomic bomb at Nagasaki killed fewer than 80,000 people.

So lions are far rarer than African humans and we’ve been taught since childhood that lions are extremely valuable. No wonder, then, that the death of one lion hits us harder than the deaths of 644,000 faceless Africans in a year from diarrhea. But the moral problem of this

African Lions > African People

value judgement is trickier than this. African People do not value the lives of African Lions, not as a rule. When an African Lion kills an African Person, the usual response of African People is to kill the African Lion. But this does not sit well with American People. Even though the American People will never see or interact with the African Lion that killed African People, it is critical for the peace of mind of American People that as many African Lions as possible be preserved. So the actual equation is:

(the peace of mind American People have from knowing African Lions are being “conserved”) > (the actual lives of African People)

We, as a society, are willing to let Africans die so our museums have an easier time sourcing lions. It’s just another one of those value judgments:

(Ted Kennedy’s career) > (justice for the family of the woman he let die)

(Woody Allen’s next movie) > (preventing Woody Allen from molesting children)

(The pleasure of watching Kobe Bryant play basketball on TV) > (America’s laws on rape)

(Facebook’s revenue stream) > (Your privacy)

The difference in this case is that it is a deeply racist judgment, to value lions over #BlackLives. So how does the Twitter SJW posse justify it? Your guess is as good as mine. I think it’s because on the face of it, the argument looks like

(Lion) > (cisgender white medical professional with $50,000-plus to waste)

without considering the fact that every penny the dentist spent to hunt the lion went into the pocket of an African. The dentist did a lot more to help African People than he did to hurt African Lions. And the African People were willing to go along with it, the same way American law enforcement professionals permitted a Saudi princess to beat a woman in front of them because said princess had taken the top two floors of the Westin Swan at Disney World. Money is power. Power is force. Force gets its way.

After a few moment’s consideration, I’ve decided to name the “hall pass” given by the Twitterati to Cecil-the-Lion-related-racism the “Foxconn exemption”. We all know that iPhones are made by Foxconn. We all know that working at Foxconn leads to suicide and depression and any number of terrible mental disorders. But you really want an iPhone, and those Chinese people jumping off the roof at Foxconn are, like, so far away. Hardly even people. So you just agree to not think about it.

This is the new morality. It’s feelings-based, not fact-based. It avoids tricky issues of moral calculus by simply declaring them irrelevant. If you don’t feel bad about Chinese workers, it doesn’t matter what happens. If you don’t feel bad about Africans, it doesn’t matter what happens. All that matter is what you feel. If you feel worse about the death of one lion than you do about 644,000 Africans, it’s okay. If you feel that gay people should be safe from harassment but you simultaneously feel that Gawker was right for doing a gay-bashing hit piece on Conde Nast’s CFO, you’re okay to feel that way.

The problem with feels-based morality is that it isn’t universal. It’s not transferable. You don’t feel bad when a gang of “teens” beats some old white guy? I don’t feel bad when an attractive woman with a great rack kills an animal (see top of article). You don’t feel bad that Americans in the Midwest have no jobs? I don’t feel bad that climate change will make your neighborhood just like Venice. Can you see why feels-based morality, rather than delivering the inclusive, diverse experience it promises, only heightens tension between differing groups?

The most charming thing is that modern young progressives think they invented Feelsville. They think that the natural human inclination was towards rigid order and unyielding law until the magic day when they were born. They think that civilization was self-assembling and that they alone have been given the gift of seeing farther than those around them. It does not help that every piece of juvenile literature on the shelves, from Divergent to The Maze Runner, reinforces the idea that some people are just extremely special and intrinsically know the right thing to do.

David Brin wrote The Postman as a reaction to what he perceived as the right-wing, rugged-individualist sci-fi of his time. The central idea of the book is that we’d miss the federal government if it disappeared. I don’t entirely disagree with him. But I would suggest that the Left in this country has made far more headway against conventional Ten-Commandments morality than the right has made against the existence of the federal government. And we will miss that morality when it’s done.

After all, who knows what the feels-sanctified “lions” of the future will be, and who knows when one might find one’s self thrown to them?
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RE: Kimmel chokes up over Cecil the lion
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/opinio...inion&_r=1

"The American tendency to romanticize animals that have been given actual names and to jump onto a hashtag train has turned an ordinary situation — there were 800 lions legally killed over a decade by well-heeled foreigners who shelled out serious money to prove their prowess — into what seems to my Zimbabwean eyes an absurdist circus.

PETA is calling for the hunter to be hanged. Zimbabwean politicians are accusing the United States of staging Cecil’s killing as a “ploy” to make our country look bad. And Americans who can’t find Zimbabwe on a map are applauding the nation’s demand for the extradition of the dentist, unaware that a baby elephant was reportedly slaughtered for our president’s most recent birthday banquet.

We Zimbabweans are left shaking our heads, wondering why Americans care more about African animals than about African people."
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RE: Kimmel chokes up over Cecil the lion
I was with him until the last bit, which just sounds like a whiny appeal for more coverage and money.

"Men willingly believe what they wish." - Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18
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