(06-21-2015 11:36 AM)Blaze Frazier Wrote:  Been texting two girls off OkCupid for a week or so.

Found out they're friends, hang out a lot and all that.

Played it off that it was a small world and I enjoy talking to them both.

I had already been gravitating toward one more, so I'll continue to do so.

Anybody else run into that kind of problem?

Once got the numbers of two girls at a club. Double booked them and went on a date with one.

I find out a few days later they were both good friends. She went ballistic on me saying I am a dick etc.

LOL

Ran into a girl I banged a few months ago. She hinted she was into S+M. I made sure was rough as hell as I spanked her, hogtied, and slapped her face hard repeatedly, then railed her from behind while choking her out.
I was posted up & she came over to say no guy was willing to go that hard before, and now she wants it all the time, loves it when guys don't ask and just do it, thanked me for 'opening her up.'

The only reason we didn't have sex back at my place ASAP was her new boyfriend was still at the other end of the bar.

She also re-confirmed something I discovered on my own, that 100% of her female friends like being choked, but most guys don't do it. And strongly hinted she'd like a 3-way with the right girl, now gets turned on by dominating girls as well.

The ironic thing is, the next day a former sub of mine texted and wants to have dinner this week. Haven't seen her in months, she was dating a guy I'd heard but dumped him. I'd bet 99-1 it's for the above reason[s]. Gonna try like hell to make this happen.

My advice to any guys in the thread - stop having vanilla sex.

(06-21-2015 06:32 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  Ran into a girl I banged a few months ago. She hinted she was into S+M. I made sure was rough as hell as I spanked her, hogtied, and slapped her face hard repeatedly, then railed her from behind while choking her out.
I was posted up & she came over to say no guy was willing to go that hard before, and now she wants it all the time, loves it when guys don't ask and just do it, thanked me for 'opening her up.'

The only reason we didn't have sex back at my place ASAP was her new boyfriend was still at the other end of the bar.

She also re-confirmed something I discovered on my own, that 100% of her female friends like being choked, but most guys don't do it. And strongly hinted she'd like a 3-way with the right girl, now gets turned on by dominating girls as well.

The ironic thing is, the next day a former sub of mine texted and wants to have dinner this week. Haven't seen her in months, she was dating a guy I'd heard but dumped him. I'd bet 99-1 it's for the above reason[s]. Gonna try like hell to make this happen.

My advice to any guys in the thread - stop having vanilla sex.

Cosign this, make sure you have some toys to play with.

Cuffs, ties, binders, whips, ropes, whatever.

Improvise if you need to - but make sure you dominate the fuck out of her.

Occasionally wear ties when I'm meeting girls for the above reasons. Improvised rope if need be.

(06-20-2015 08:52 AM)Silva Wrote:  With this particular girl, we've been seeing each for a few months now and it has always been a strictly casual thing i.e. she comes straight over to my house, we fuck, and she leaves. Although she hasn't explicitly stated that she wants anything more than being a FB, nor has she said the things you mentioned - "you're distant" etc. But I do feel she is about to leave soon though, don't know how long she can handle casual sex with very little emotional support.

She does know the deal in the sense that I'm seeing other girls, and I know that she is dating other guys - she was talking about some tinder dates she went on etc.

You mention that the girls in the FB category don't need emotion, which I think is true in come instances i.e. short term. BUT if you want to keep he around for a longer period, a lack of emotion/showing her that you actually enjoy her company, is needed for them to stay around longer. Thoughts?

Well the FB situation seems pretty dialed - I personally would NOT open up about banging other girls or talk about. Hell I don't want to know what she's doing either - she's just a plate coming over to get banged out.

Connection and sexual attraction will dominate the date and when you first bang.

Yes an emotional connection is warranted if you're wanting to keep her around. You'll start doing things other than banging like going out and doing things, going to eat etc.

If this is the only FB then she's becoming your defacto GF. If not, you're riding the line between FB and a girl who might catch feelings.

I had an old FB a few years ago that I constantly banged, we never really talked about other relationships. Towards the end she started talking about some new guy and before I knew it, she started hanging out less and less and then she was gone.

(06-20-2015 09:13 AM)ClintTalks Wrote:  Good tips on fuck buddies. I was definitely congruent with all of those except "they can leave at any time". Sure they can, but I didn't want that to happen and it probably showed.

I like getting to know people.
Then again, when a girl has nothing interesting to talk about, don't force the words out of her mouth. Just give her a good time.

She was "busy" with work, so we only fucked 3 times over a span of a month.
I tried pushing for more because I'm a horny mofo, but instead I should have been getting more girls in rotation.

She saw tinder on my phone, but I can't come up with any reasons why that would push her away. Just putting it out there.

Nothing wrong with getting to know a girl, showing a good time on a date is what is going to make her gina tingle. Never push dude, that'll show her you're thirsty (not being critical of you) - at least you realized you needed to get more girls.

Some girls just want a good dick for awhile then rationalize why they should be a good girl again. It could be her ex is back, she found a new dick, realized she's being a slut, or was just over it.

You shouldn't care because you're getting new girls, it's a simple as that. Learn and use game to the best of your knowledge.

(06-20-2015 09:39 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  How do you get a girl to be a fuck buddy?

I took a girl home from the club last weekend, after dealing with all sorts of cockblocking and issues that night and not going out in months before that, just that was an achievement for me. its made me realise I need to do this more often. but I don't really know how to make plans to see her again.

I texted her a few times after, some boring stuff but she was interested in my job, but then she stopped replying. I then waited a couple days, and sent her a message asking if she's going out or seeing me saturday night.. maybe a bit out there, but I thought I'd try sending something a bit bold, as she liked that side of me when I pulled her, and was thinking maybe I'd gone too nice.

No reply.

Most likely this was just a one night stand and thats it now, but how do I stop this happening in the future..? or is this a regular thing that I will have to get used to? do girls just get shy and embarresed after one night stands and not want to see you again?

Get used to sluts you bang the first night not hitting you back up again.

Read what I put above - you just don't know. You shouldn't be worried about these hoes - focus on what you said - you realized you need to out and pull girls more often.

You can always do a follow up text after the bang a few days later, or before she leaves try to gauge her interest level. You can do alot of things but these hoes come and go.

(06-21-2015 07:45 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 06:32 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  Ran into a girl I banged a few months ago. She hinted she was into S+M. I made sure was rough as hell as I spanked her, hogtied, and slapped her face hard repeatedly, then railed her from behind while choking her out.
I was posted up & she came over to say no guy was willing to go that hard before, and now she wants it all the time, loves it when guys don't ask and just do it, thanked me for 'opening her up.'

The only reason we didn't have sex back at my place ASAP was her new boyfriend was still at the other end of the bar.

She also re-confirmed something I discovered on my own, that 100% of her female friends like being choked, but most guys don't do it. And strongly hinted she'd like a 3-way with the right girl, now gets turned on by dominating girls as well.

The ironic thing is, the next day a former sub of mine texted and wants to have dinner this week. Haven't seen her in months, she was dating a guy I'd heard but dumped him. I'd bet 99-1 it's for the above reason[s]. Gonna try like hell to make this happen.

My advice to any guys in the thread - stop having vanilla sex.

Cosign this, make sure you have some toys to play with.

Cuffs, ties, binders, whips, ropes, whatever.

Improvise if you need to - but make sure you dominate the fuck out of her.

Definitely get crafty with this. When I was a bouncer I tied a girl up with wristbands that I had in the counsel of my car. I've also bound a chick up with some parachute cord that I had lying around.

(06-21-2015 08:59 PM)General Mayhem Wrote:  Definitely get crafty with this. When I was a bouncer I tied a girl up with wristbands that I had in the counsel of my car. I've also bound a chick up with some parachute cord that I had lying around.

(06-21-2015 07:45 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Cosign this, make sure you have some toys to play with.

Cuffs, ties, binders, whips, ropes, whatever.

Improvise if you need to - but make sure you dominate the fuck out of her.

I always wear a tie so that's no issue, and if you have a belt you've got your bondage starter kit right there guys. Pocket squares make excellent gags also.

I'd add cuffs or bondage cuffs, hogtie, ballgag, collars, leashes, vibrators, riding crop, warming lube, whips, clothespins, blindfolds, & the right candle wax.

Girls get turned on when you bring out toys, and hotter when you restrict them. When your first stroke hits they will be nearing or having an orgasm or several.

Just realized that I've stopped overanalyzing texts as much as I used to. It was something that I was stumbling over, but I'm not caring as much. I can rely much more on internalized game and existing attraction. I don't fear fucking it up like I used to. I was neurotic.

After struggling with oneitis issues for a long time, I'm not feeling the hold over me with my most recent conquest, even though she's on the high end of attractiveness for me and very feminine like I enjoy.

Got some new threads today that fit better and will pop for the summer. Been getting tons of IOIs.

While I used to fake a lot of confidence and being too busy to be over-available with women, I've actually added enough structure, hobbies, and friends that I really do have limited time and I've had to actively remind myself to contact girls or I forget. I don't do a whole lot of gaming, but when I do the leads are quality. Best area to focus on improvement is daygame, as always.

Been a lot less of a negative drag on people like I used to be. Even if I don't care for someone, I rely a lot less on put-downs. I used to be very unpleasant to be around because I was trying to get attention by being negative. Every now and then it comes up, but it's rare. I stop trying to focus conversations on myself as much as I used to. Spend less time trying to prove how cool I am. I didn't notice how bad it was until I changed and stopped. It was bad.

I still need to focus on a more positive mindset to get there on some days, but this summer is keeping it pleasantly rolling.

(06-24-2015 01:20 AM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  Just realized that I've stopped overanalyzing texts as much as I used to. It was something that I was stumbling over, but I'm not caring as much. I can rely much more on internalized game and existing attraction. I don't fear fucking it up like I used to. I was neurotic.

After struggling with oneitis issues for a long time, I'm not feeling the hold over me with my most recent conquest, even though she's on the high end of attractiveness for me and very feminine like I enjoy.

Got some new threads today that fit better and will pop for the summer. Been getting tons of IOIs.

While I used to fake a lot of confidence and being too busy to be over-available with women, I've actually added enough structure, hobbies, and friends that I really do have limited time and I've had to actively remind myself to contact girls or I forget. I don't do a whole lot of gaming, but when I do the leads are quality. Best area to focus on improvement is daygame, as always.

Been a lot less of a negative drag on people like I used to be. Even if I don't care for someone, I rely a lot less on put-downs. I used to be very unpleasant to be around because I was trying to get attention by being negative. Every now and then it comes up, but it's rare. I stop trying to focus conversations on myself as much as I used to. Spend less time trying to prove how cool I am. I didn't notice how bad it was until I changed and stopped. It was bad.

I still need to focus on a more positive mindset to get there on some days, but this summer is keeping it pleasantly rolling.

(06-24-2015 01:20 AM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  Just realized that I've stopped overanalyzing texts as much as I used to. It was something that I was stumbling over, but I'm not caring as much. I can rely much more on internalized game and existing attraction. I don't fear fucking it up like I used to. I was neurotic.

After struggling with oneitis issues for a long time, I'm not feeling the hold over me with my most recent conquest, even though she's on the high end of attractiveness for me and very feminine like I enjoy.

Got some new threads today that fit better and will pop for the summer. Been getting tons of IOIs.

While I used to fake a lot of confidence and being too busy to be over-available with women, I've actually added enough structure, hobbies, and friends that I really do have limited time and I've had to actively remind myself to contact girls or I forget. I don't do a whole lot of gaming, but when I do the leads are quality. Best area to focus on improvement is daygame, as always.

Been a lot less of a negative drag on people like I used to be. Even if I don't care for someone, I rely a lot less on put-downs. I used to be very unpleasant to be around because I was trying to get attention by being negative. Every now and then it comes up, but it's rare. I stop trying to focus conversations on myself as much as I used to. Spend less time trying to prove how cool I am. I didn't notice how bad it was until I changed and stopped. It was bad.

I still need to focus on a more positive mindset to get there on some days, but this summer is keeping it pleasantly rolling.

Solid progress! Keep it up.

The more a girl is being bitchy and annoying the hornier she is and wants to be dominated. Epiphanies out of nowhere.

(06-24-2015 09:49 AM)hwuzhere Wrote:  The more a girl is being bitchy and annoying the hornier she is and wants to be dominated. Epiphanies out of nowhere.

The best when it escalates to her socking your arm or slapping you (not face). It's the perfect open to hair pulling and biting.

When I'm drunk on auto pilot, good lord if a chick is acting up but smiling (read: friendly shit talking) I'm slapping asses and pulling hair.

You know what the common response is ? "Don't do that, I like that" -smile-

Game on.

I'm stuck on a girl (7.5) I met the weekend before last. We really connected, banged that night and made plans for me to visit her city next weekend. She told me she misses me.

Background is that we met in a club years ago (didn't bang) and kept in touch; she always initiated and we built a solid connection through text. I flaked on her twice when we set up dates, yet she persisted. So to me that shows that she's into me to a certain degree as well.

Thing is, right now I have zero motivation to hit on other girls as this chick is on my mind. Paradoxically, I'm noticing women responding better to me than usual.

And to be honest, I'm enjoying this feeling. It's been a long time since I met a girl I felt this connection to, both physically and mentally. Have had some ONSs and a few flings in the last six months, and I've concluded that a real connection is important to me.

Should I keep gaming other girls just to keep abundance? I'm applying game to the chick I'm oneitising but a bit toned down, as she's really reciprocating and not being the usual shit-testing Western chick.

(06-24-2015 11:14 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  I'm stuck on a girl (7.5) I met the weekend before last. We really connected, banged that night and made plans for me to visit her city next weekend. She told me she misses me.

Background is that we met in a club years ago (didn't bang) and kept in touch; she always initiated and we built a solid connection through text. I flaked on her twice when we set up dates, yet she persisted. So to me that shows that she's into me to a certain degree as well.

Thing is, right now I have zero motivation to hit on other girls as this chick is on my mind. Paradoxically, I'm noticing women responding better to me than usual.

And to be honest, I'm enjoying this feeling. It's been a long time since I met a girl I felt this connection to, both physically and mentally. Have had some ONSs and a few flings in the last six months, and I've concluded that a real connection is important to me.

Should I keep gaming other girls just to keep abundance? I'm applying game to the chick I'm oneitising but a bit toned down, as she's really reciprocating and not being the usual shit-testing Western chick.

It's not a bad thing at all man, enjoy the shit out of it ! There is nothing wrong with being connected to someone that complements your life - just make sure you don't pedastalize.

Some men game only till they find a cool chick, some men game to fuck as many girls as they can.

You're on this forum, you're obviously aware of the pitfalls.

I say keep gaming girls for abundance (for now). If you decide you want to move things further with this chick, let her make the next movies ("what are we" "you're my boyfriend" etc. Don't be the one to make the first move, you'll have the power.

I have an LTR 8 - I enjoy my bond with her and yeah I "love" her. Yet I still game and bang on the side (for sanity and fun).

Some men on here refuse to do so, they say it's an honor code, that if you're a man of your word with a woman you won't fuck another girl.

I respect that, more power to them, and if that's what you'll want to do - do it !

Just keep your eyes open, watch her actions, and be weary.

Connection is a wonderful and positive thing !

I'm entering my first full week of post online dating. I'm still working on a few plates that were already in the pipeline but so far it's been both scary and liberating. My approach muscles are so out of shape that I can almost work myself into a mini panic attack just by thinking "shit, where will I find a date in the real world? Will I EVER get laid without online dating??" But a funny thing is starting to happen. Since I'm not so damn worn out by going on dates from online I have more energy to get out of my apartment and explore. It's forcing me to pay more attention to the women who are out and about. Just yesterday alone I had brief interactions/conversations with 3 different women while shopping and getting dinner.

I'm even feeling anxious just typing this out but that anxiety is proof alone that I need to stay the course and work on daygame social skills.

(06-24-2015 12:09 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  I'm entering my first full week of post online dating. I'm still working on a few plates that were already in the pipeline but so far it's been both scary and liberating. My approach muscles are so out of shape that I can almost work myself into a mini panic attack just by thinking "shit, where will I find a date in the real world? Will I EVER get laid without online dating??" But a funny thing is starting to happen. Since I'm not so damn worn out by going on dates from online I have more energy to get out of my apartment and explore. It's forcing me to pay more attention to the women who are out and about. Just yesterday alone I had brief interactions/conversations with 3 different women while shopping and getting dinner.

I'm even feeling anxious just typing this out but that anxiety is proof alone that I need to stay the course and work on daygame social skills.

So I went out for about five hours last night. I had some good approaches but also got some fairly hard blow outs.
I went to bed feeling a little deflated and am striving to amp up some positive energy because I'm going out again tonight.

A couple mistakes I know I made:

I drank just a hair too much. I usually do drink, like three beers over the course of the evening, and it's usually an afterthought. I started with a really strong old fashioned at this trendy bar and proceeded to have four fairly strong drinks throughout the night. Just a little too much booze to be sharp.

The other mistake I'm certain of:
While I went out solo the first 1.5 hours, it was slow so I went and picked up my buddy. The night got busier and my friend, while he is really outgoing, has no desire to pull and admittedly blocked me pretty good. I.e. He got into an argument with three hotties about whether or not they were part of a pyramid scheme. I fucked up by not being more assertive in leading the interaction, I more or less pawned it off on him because he is funny etc. but he doesn't really game. I'm better off to not go out with him if I want to bet laid and I know better.

As far as where I go wrong in terms of mechanics is hard to say, too much booze is definitely a killer for me.

Also I kind of mind fuck myself during the day by telling myself my city is too small to mass approach. It's about 70,000 people and I run into the same people a lot. (I ran into an exgf at two different bars last night which kind of fucked with me a bit).

In retrospect I've often done really well with women even when I've had a lot to drink, while I still feel like I'm better off solo than with a crappy wingman, I think I might be a little arrogant in thinking I'm better at game than I am. Maybe I'm just fucking whining

(06-24-2015 03:36 PM)Rage_on Wrote:  So I went out for about five hours last night. I had some good approaches but also got some fairly hard blow outs.
I went to bed feeling a little deflated and am striving to amp up some positive energy because I'm going out again tonight.

A couple mistakes I know I made:

I drank just a hair too much. I usually do drink, like three beers over the course of the evening, and it's usually an afterthought. I started with a really strong old fashioned at this trendy bar and proceeded to have four fairly strong drinks throughout the night. Just a little too much booze to be sharp.

The other mistake I'm certain of:
While I went out solo the first 1.5 hours, it was slow so I went and picked up my buddy. The night got busier and my friend, while he is really outgoing, has no desire to pull and admittedly blocked me pretty good. I.e. He got into an argument with three hotties about whether or not they were part of a pyramid scheme. I fucked up by not being more assertive in leading the interaction, I more or less pawned it off on him because he is funny etc. but he doesn't really game. I'm better off to not go out with him if I want to bet laid and I know better.

As far as where I go wrong in terms of mechanics is hard to say, too much booze is definitely a killer for me.

Also I kind of mind fuck myself during the day by telling myself my city is too small to mass approach. It's about 70,000 people and I run into the same people a lot. (I ran into an exgf at two different bars last night which kind of fucked with me a bit).

In retrospect I've often done really well with women even when I've had a lot to drink, while I still feel like I'm better off solo than with a crappy wingman, I think I might be a little arrogant in thinking I'm better at game than I am. Maybe I'm just fucking whining

I'm definitely with you on not bringing crappy wingmen with no intention of pulling. Brought along one of my closest friends whom finally got himself an alright girlfriend which is sad considering he could do way better, but hey it was a for fun night. Turns out one of the attractive girls that tagged along with our group was into me.

End of the night with my group of close friends and said girl invited us back to her place to smoke weed(she had to invite my friend as I was his ride). Weed made her horny as fuck and next thing you know she's feeling up on me, but you know what my friend decided to unintentionally cockblock me by not getting the memo and getting the fuck out. He instead decided to make us join in on a very interesting yet lengthy discussion on geo-politics which in any other situation would have been fine and dandy, but the worst possible timing. Make her bored and she finally boots us out at 5 AM.

(06-24-2015 03:58 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  Weed made her horny as fuck and next thing you know she's feeling up on me, but you know what my friend decided to unintentionally cockblock me by not getting the memo and getting the fuck out.

That's brutal man. There was no way you could have made an excuse to take him aside and tell him to get the hell out while you went to work? Or at least give him the "get outta here" head jerk when she wasn't looking?

Yeah, when a bitchy or princessy girl punches you on the arm or like slaps your hand you know she's into you and she wants you to do the same physical things to her back at your place during sex.

Some days I think 50% of the bitchy women at bars are that way because they are surrounded by Betas ALL. DAY. LONG.

It probably goes 90% for college chicks. Just imagine all the omegas, incels, sniveling betas who are afraid to disagree with her on anything, accept her flaking, tell her how pretty she is daily, do her homework, carry her shit around.

One of the tricks I learned years ago, maybe from Mystery or etc was almost never tell a beautiful girl she's beautiful.
If you have to compliment her use fashion sense, intelligence, sense of humor, love of sports, whatever. So, she gets some validation from you BUT she never knows if you think she's actually attractive or not - even if you're banging regularly. Call her cute if you must. 'That's cute. You're cute like a puppy.' Push-pull.

Then, some night if you tell her she looks great, she will melt in your arms. Had a HB8 I was seeing for months come over, fuck, then shower and was primping and got all dolled up for dinner I told her she looked pretty and she literally said, 'I look....pretty?' like she couldn't believe what she was hearing. She was incredibly thankful and *really* focused on making me happy until sunrise.

(06-24-2015 05:04 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 03:58 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  Weed made her horny as fuck and next thing you know she's feeling up on me, but you know what my friend decided to unintentionally cockblock me by not getting the memo and getting the fuck out.

That's brutal man. There was no way you could have made an excuse to take him aside and tell him to get the hell out while you went to work? Or at least give him the "get outta here" head jerk when she wasn't looking?

He was too dense and I was too high. I also would need to have to low key pass him my keys so he could drive home and that would have been hard to pull without the girl noticing.

(06-24-2015 05:21 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 05:04 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 03:58 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  Weed made her horny as fuck and next thing you know she's feeling up on me, but you know what my friend decided to unintentionally cockblock me by not getting the memo and getting the fuck out.

That's brutal man. There was no way you could have made an excuse to take him aside and tell him to get the hell out while you went to work? Or at least give him the "get outta here" head jerk when she wasn't looking?

He was too dense and I was too high. I also would need to have to low key pass him my keys so he could drive home and that would have been hard to pull without the girl noticing.

Maybe he wanted all the attention on himself, or maybe even wanted the girl, and tried winning her over with his "intelligence" on "geopolitics".

(06-24-2015 05:34 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 05:21 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 05:04 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 03:58 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  Weed made her horny as fuck and next thing you know she's feeling up on me, but you know what my friend decided to unintentionally cockblock me by not getting the memo and getting the fuck out.

That's brutal man. There was no way you could have made an excuse to take him aside and tell him to get the hell out while you went to work? Or at least give him the "get outta here" head jerk when she wasn't looking?

He was too dense and I was too high. I also would need to have to low key pass him my keys so he could drive home and that would have been hard to pull without the girl noticing.

Maybe he wanted all the attention on himself, or maybe even wanted the girl, and tried winning him over with his "intelligence" on "geopolitics".

I honestly wish as it would show some initiative on his part, but those kind of conversations were always natural to us in every situation. That and the poor child is too whipped. It would be an insult to betas to describe how whipped he is. His girlfriend once embarrassed him in front of me, and the sad part was he didn't even think much of it. So he wouldn't dare cheat.

Super smart and has looks, but he's a bit on the socially awkward side.

If there's one positive to this smartphone song and dance I think my wordplay has gotten a lot better. I cannot fathom how many different dick puns I've made.