Post: #26

I'm still not sure about Russia..I think its more of a case by case thing.
(As a Black man) Ive tried to talk to russians on different trips around the world...some were friendly, some did come off as racist.
But one of my best friends is russian( His family is like "off the boat" Both parents barely speak understandable english) and for whatever they love me. Always inviting me over to meet whatever family and/or hot cousin..

The only thing i could think of for the reason they like me..is because one day after playing COD, I memorized the 3 stanza of the soviet national anthem..and recited it while his parents were around. in both english and russian.

Maybe its a language barrier thing..He absolutely hates that i ask his family how their day was..or say please and thanks you in their language.
But him mom..and the rest of his family love it.

Post: #27

(08-29-2009 04:17 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  I'm still not sure about Russia..I think its more of a case by case thing.
(As a Black man) Ive tried to talk to russians on different trips around the world...some were friendly, some did come off as racist.
But one of my best friends is russian( His family is like "off the boat" Both parents barely speak understandable english) and for whatever they love me. Always inviting me over to meet whatever family and/or hot cousin..

The only thing i could think of for the reason they like me..is because one day after playing COD, I memorized the 3 stanza of the soviet national anthem..and recited it while his parents were around. in both english and russian.

Maybe its a language barrier thing..He absolutely hates that i ask his family how their day was..or say please and thanks you in their language.
But him mom..and the rest of his family love it.

Thing is, since there are so few black people in Russia, if only 1% of Russian women like black dudes, you could still be getting laid every night, because there's no competition. That's not enough to make me go though, I mean Russian chics are hot and all, but I won't be showing up around there till that skinhead hooligan problem is under control. I've just heard way too many crazy stories about the nazi gangs running around in Russian cities.

Post: #28

(08-29-2009 04:17 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  I'm still not sure about Russia..I think its more of a case by case thing.
(As a Black man) Ive tried to talk to russians on different trips around the world...some were friendly, some did come off as racist.
But one of my best friends is russian( His family is like "off the boat" Both parents barely speak understandable english) and for whatever they love me. Always inviting me over to meet whatever family and/or hot cousin..

The only thing i could think of for the reason they like me..is because one day after playing COD, I memorized the 3 stanza of the soviet national anthem..and recited it while his parents were around. in both english and russian.

Maybe its a language barrier thing..He absolutely hates that i ask his family how their day was..or say please and thanks you in their language.
But him mom..and the rest of his family love it.

Thats why. Immigrant families have to bust their ass all day learning the language so they appreciate it when you speak to them in Russian. Imagine if you moved somewhere and you were struggling with the language and you found someone who spoke English with you.

Immigrants are always going to be more tolerant than people that live in their home countries because people like right wing skinheads aren't going to go anywhere. That is sort of the whole point of nationalism....they dont want to go anywhere. The exception to this is 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants where the kids are drug over here and don't want to leave their home countries. They end up hanging out with only other people from their ethnic group and thats where you get the stupid car gangs and all that shit. The ones that come over here fresh on the first wave are generally very smart, driven, and the finest of what their country has to offer. They just weren't connected enough to have any opportunity in their home countries or the economy collapsed (like the hyperinflation in Ukraine.)

Post: #29

If Alex Ovechkin has to resort to online dating in Russia, I have serious doubts about wanting to go there.

http://www.thehockeyherald.com/?p=608

Post: #30

I _still_ haven't been to Russia. But I've been to three Russian speaking countries since :

If you already know another slavic language, you can pickup survival russian easily by just studying a few hours. But if all you know is english and/or some romance language, it's gonna be a hard one to crack. A totally new vocabulary makes it harder to form mnemonics, then once you're able to produce complete sentences you'll have to deal with noun-cases (which I always ignore).

Post: #31

(08-27-2009 12:28 PM)Roosh Wrote:  I disagree about being black. Every Russian girl wants to bang at least one black dude. This is fact.

Roosh, I gotta respectfully disagree with you, man. I've got a lot of Russian friends (females included). I originally thought the same, but no longer.

A lot are very curious of black dudes, but many are racist to the bone and utterly disgusted.

I would characterize russian women as very materialistic and status oriented. They generally prefer 'real' men. Big, strong, dominating as opposed to smooth and charming. As I said, cash flow means a lot as well.

Post: #32

(03-17-2010 09:58 PM)chrisss Wrote:  As to Russians, I think they're one of the most warmest and friendliest people around.

If you are white. Otherwise, I would characterize them as very, very, very racist (Yes...that's 3 verys). Even when they are trying to be nice to an immigrant or person of different color, they very often are unknowingly insulting.

When I was in Russia, they even called white people with brown hair and foreign features 'n*****s'. And it was very much out in the open.

In general, I do agree with what you are saying....just thought that comment was a stretch.

Post: #33

(04-06-2010 08:01 PM)chrisss Wrote:  Yeah I know another slavic language so it should be relatively easy. I'm gone try to study at least 20 minutes a day for now, Spanish is still my number one priority and I wouldn't want to neglect that progress. How did you go about learning your survival Russian as you put it, and how was it in general? Would you say it would pay off much more visiting-wise with bigger fluency in Russian? And where exactly have you been?

Language:
You're Polish, right? Shouldn't be too hard. First pickup the cyrillic alphabet, (it's phoenetic), then start reading as much text as you can and see if you recognize anything.

Right now Im preparing for a quick ukrine trip and I need to freshen up. I did a few of the plimseur 1 lessons and got tired. I don't care much for grammar for now, Im concentrating on vocabulary and basic verbs. I know some bulgarian and can deal with serbian.

I've been to moldova, uzbekistan and ukraine before. More fluency is always better, my main goal is to be able to haggle, curse at the shop keeper and flirt. I always open in english and backpedal from there as needed. You _need_ a minimal of russian skills, otherwise you're just another lost tourist.

Racism:
It wouldn't surprise me to hear an eastern-europeens use the n-word. They're not malicious, some think it's funny. This is e-europe, they're not americans with the 200 years of slavery haunting them, they have other older and even scarier demons.

Post: #34

I haven't been to Russia but I have some family in other Eastern European countries and have spent enough time around Russians here and abroad to have a decent idea of their basic outlooks in a few areas.

A few points I picked up on are....

1. Sex is generaly more open, atleast to discuss. It's just viewed more mechanically though. Almost like the Nude beaches in Europe, you don't see people gettig wood and fornicating in the sand, you see old people and some young laying and reading. They see it as a "healthy" release. Example, if you asked a Rusian girl you are sort of friends with, if she would have sex with you, you wouldn't get an ashamed or angry American girl response, nor would you get a slutty American girl response..you would end up most often with a dry and cold "Yes it is possible you not bad looking.." Its strange but true. That is not an opener but something you would mention to a girl you have known for a day or two.

2. Russian dudes are ok, they party allot and don't put their women on a pedastle like too many Western men do. They are a bit more heavy handed with the chicks too if you know what I mean.

3. The Racism thing is very strong in Russia right now. They basically call all people of middle Eastern areas black. They also call all africans and afro - Americans, obviously.. black. I know that most of the Russians I have met, do not really like the company of black people. Just my observation.

*Roosh might be correct about the Russian hottie that comes to DC or LA and sees it as "multi-cultural" or wants to be like a girl in a rap video. Also I have noticed many Russian girls are opportunists. They see what they perceive as $$$$$ ie. Lexus, Gold, nice clothes and they see an opportunity to status whore and be arm candy regardless of the dudes Race. I still think that is more common than the Russian that just wants to "bang" a black guy.

Post: #35

Mark Ames of the exile fame was recently interviewed by vanity fair :
http://exiledonline.com/mark-ames-interv...ournalism/
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/featur...ile-201002

Post: #36

More fear mongering on this forum! French AND swedish people are not safe either.
http://sofiaecho.com/2009/09/30/792047_b...-hooligans
http://sofiaecho.com/2007/08/06/655056_t...unny-beach
Yeah, stay away from my EE girls.

Post: #37

(05-17-2010 11:11 AM)familydude Wrote:  More fear mongering on this forum! French AND swedish people are not safe either.
http://sofiaecho.com/2009/09/30/792047_b...-hooligans
http://sofiaecho.com/2007/08/06/655056_t...unny-beach
Yeah, stay away from my EE girls.

The latter article says that those people from Sweden were minorities. It also said a Swedish-Iraqi was beaten to death by bouncers in a night club. Russia and EE are a no-go zone to me. I don't get what the deal is over there with all the skinheads and hate crimes.

Post: #38

(05-17-2010 11:11 AM)familydude Wrote:  More fear mongering on this forum! French AND swedish people are not safe either.
http://sofiaecho.com/2009/09/30/792047_b...-hooligans
http://sofiaecho.com/2007/08/06/655056_t...unny-beach
Yeah, stay away from my EE girls.

Couldn't comment on EE, but having been to Russia several times and having many close Russian friends.....easily the most racially backwards people I've encountered. Major, major racial/xenophobic issues....and yet very oblivious to it.

Post: #39

(03-17-2010 09:58 PM)lavinci Wrote:  PartyTime Wrote: One of my good friends went to Russia last winter. He kept talking about how cold the culture is. He didn't see a single person smile in his entire week there. Not even the hotel staff.

This is part of the culture. Basically if a girl smiles to you in Russia (and says hi) she's approaching you, and you're expected to react. If a guy smiles to you... that's kinda weird.

Things are changing - at least in Moscow - there are much more smiles in last five years, but it's still WAY below the U.S. smiling culture. Which, really, pisses me off.

Post: #40

I would also like to add that Russia is VERY unfriendly towards someone who is not speaking Russian. I just visited Moscow for a few days, and it is basically still the same. Very few signs are duplicated in English. Outside Moscow and St. Petersburg pretty much none of the signs is. It is very difficult for a foreigner to navigate in Moscow subway as well, starting from cashiers selling tickets who're typically ladies in their 70s and do not speak anything but Russian, and station names announced in a way which makes it extremely hard for a foreigner to understand which station he is on. Only few trains have visual aid, but it is also in Russian. Your best bet would be to ask a nearest nice looking young lady for help, they typically speak some English and it is very against the culture not to help someone who asks for it. It was also +30C (~90F) on Sun, making it kinda uncomfortable.

Post: #41

Ok, I thought I'd weight in here.
I've traveled all across Russia and Siberia.
To be honest, it's one of my least favorite countries. That said, Siberia/ lake Baikal is wonderful.
A few things you need to know about the girls:

Women in Moscow are some of the most unfriendly I've ever encountered but St. Petersburg & Siberia are different ball games.

A little bit of Russian goes a long way!

Bottom Line:
Russian chicks are ridiculously sexy, if you want to hook up : Fuck the nightlife and GET ONLINE! Mail.ru , vkontakte.ru (Russian Facebook), myspace... there are tons of gorgeous girl looking to meet up. Really, they are painfully good-looking.

Post: #42

Friend of a friend, dark-skinned Jewish guy, got beaten within an inch of his life in the streets of Moscow one night... the racism concern is legit.

Another friend of mine, an older guy who's been practically everywhere in the world and has literally picked up in every remotely civilized country said that Moscow nightlife is hands down the hardest to successfully pick up in the world. He told me, "If you can pull in Moscow, you can pull anywhere." He also had a couple stories about Italian guys getting the shit kicked out of them for opening the wrong girls...

Personally, I'm planning to spend some time in St. Petersburg this Sept/Oct. Learning some basic Russian first. I'm white, so should be fun.

Post: #43

The first night me and my cousin went out in Moscow he got laid by a stunner. It happens.

Post: #44

Let me put in a word or two as someone who's banged 20+ Russian girls (although I have not been to Russia).
As everyone has noticed, they are HOT. Also, they are very good in bed, in a feminine kind of way - you may not hear them shouting "fuck me" like an american slut might do, but they WILL moan and move and give signs of enjoying it, which makes you enjoy it that much more, too. Submissive, like to be dominated.
What has worked for me was to target girls younger than myself (by 5+ years) and lower social status. Like exchange students, hairdressers, grocery clerks, etc. That way I (early 30's middle class Caucasian guy) seemed in a way more socially dominant position, making them willing to submit. Also, I speak decent Russian, and am 6 ft tall and athletic. This has been enough for me to consistently get Russian girls.

Where to find them - two main places: in your (large) U.S. city in the summertime as work-and-travel students, and in resorts in Bulgaria/Turkey/Egypt/Tunisia, which are the most popular foreign vacation spots for Russians. The latter is even too easy, just make sure you go to a 300+ room resort-style hotel so there would be enough talent (should be 10+ russian girls in any such hotel in summertime) - if you have the attributes above and there aren't too many other single dudes, then by the 3rd day or so they would be begging for it themselves.

So it may not be worth it to go to Russia, I also hear it's very expensive, and it may be hit-or-miss at the clubs. Also, in Russia young girls live with their parents mostly, or have to be at work/school next day, so logistics may be difficult. Much easier if they are traveling.

Post: #45

(05-19-2010 11:02 AM)naughtynomad Wrote:  Russian chicks are ridiculously sexy, if you want to hook up : Fuck the nightlife and GET ONLINE! Mail.ru , vkontakte.ru (Russian Facebook), myspace...

I'll second that. Just a small correction, it is http://love.mail.ru not just mail.ru. It is a free dating site (they still try to upsell "vip" membership but you're good to go without it), and it is extremely easy to hook up with girls there.

Post: #46

Time for a bump.

Some time around feb / march I might be making my first trip to Russia

I will have an ex girlfriend tagging along but if she does not want to bang me then I will have no hesitation in telling her to do her own thing while I go out and meet up with chicks that I meet online.

Any tips to add for online game for Russia?

Tips for nightlife in St.Petersberg, Moscow and Siberia (which is the rough plan)

Cities which are the hidden gems of Russian that I should check out?

Day gaming and gaming in clubs will not really be optimal for me as I don't speak russian I guess and moscow is expensive.

Anybody know any cool expats there that can show me around?

Post: #47

What really kills me is when non-black dudes say that Russian women have told them they are not into black dudes. As if they would tell the truth. lol
I have the flag for Russia and Ukraine, I won't go into details.
A good Nigerian friend spent ten years in Russia(Moscow) and banged some serious chicks (pics to prove). His ex gf was smoking and he even had girls on the side, that knew about her. He did mention one night he was going to a booty call in the wrong part of town, a cab driver pulled him over and ordered him into the cab for his own safety.

Post: #48

I wonder if the world cup is going to help fix this racism/neo nazi thing at all. I doubt any real change can happen unless the government systematically weeds out unruly elements.

It'll be interesting to see how the neo-nazis react to this world cup bid. On one hand, they will want to promote their country. On the other hand, mother Russia will be infected with all sorts of "impure people."

Post: #49

YMG I seriously doubt it will change anything in that regard

I also fully expect that the majority of the cash put aside for getting things in place will be siphoned off

Post: #50

I don't know man, I mean this is something we have been over again and again. Inside of Russia there is more obvious Racism, but of course there are Russian girls that like Black dudes..of course there are many that do not. As a matter of fact there are girls that like differnt kinds of men based on various different things. I know it seems hard for dudes here to comprehend that shit. I mean if a black guy goes to Russia and fucks a few girls, maybe those were the few out of hundreds he approached? Maybe they were good old school girls or maybe they were total sluts. What I don't get is that when a brotha gets laid it all of sudden becomes such a domination thing and if one black man gets laid in (insert any Country) it must be because the girls want to sleep exclusively with black men.

I know I've banged chics from varying backgrounds, not because I have some fucked up fetish about it, but maybe they were just good looking. I have said before and I say it again...if you look like Brad Pitt then you're going to get pussy in any region of the world. If you look like Tyrese you are going to get ass...simple. All the rest of us fall mostly in between super model good looking and rich, to down right ugly and broke..that is where game comes in.

People read into this shit sooo much. sigh...

Rudebwoy: my response is not directed at you in particular, just this is the most recent post that reminds me of all the old race related discussions we've seen over and over.

(12-07-2010 11:52 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  What really kills me is when non-black dudes say that Russian women have told them they are not into black dudes. As if they would tell the truth. lol
I have the flag for Russia and Ukraine, I won't go into details.
A good Nigerian friend spent ten years in Russia(Moscow) and banged some serious chicks (pics to prove). His ex gf was smoking and he even had girls on the side, that knew about her. He did mention one night he was going to a booty call in the wrong part of town, a cab driver pulled him over and ordered him into the cab for his own safety.