Post: #1

When i was visiting santo domingo a year ago, i met one of the baddest chick i have ever seen in my life. I was hanging out with this old crazy dominican man (who was mad cool) and he was talking to everybody on the train. He saw me staring hard at this chick and soon as he notices this, he tells me to change seats and we go stand next to her. He starts talking to her and then soon after i jump in the conversation. So me and this girl ended up talking till she gets off the train. However she seemed to be extremely religious. She was telling me how she avoids mixing with certain people because she is waiting for salvation and she believes everybody should maintain a good relationship with god before he comes rescue us from earth.

She was a 10 in my book, mad fluent and is studying medicine. I asked her number before we left the train so we could go out, she tells me, she doesnt give her number to strangers. I try to convince her in getting her number (indirect way) and she tells me that i can keep her messenger.

I saw her couple of times online, tried to talk to her online, sent her 3 emails (that includes after i left DR) and didnt get no response from her. So before yesterday i see her online, i try to talk to her and for the first time she answers me and she doesnt know who i am. After 20 minutes of trying to remind her, she tells me, '''yeah i remember you'', we chatted for a while and then i had to go get some sleep for my flight next morning. Today, i see her online again, she got to know me better (like what im doing for living, what i was doing in DR, etc)..so she was asking me many questions and i feel she has a small interest in me which is good.

However, she asked me whats my opinion about god and i told her that i respected him because he created this world (thats bullshit because i dont believe in god)..then i asked her why she didnt give me her number the day we met, she was like '' im sorry, but guys in my country who use cornrows (braided hair) and dressed the way you were dressed (hood style) are usually dangerous people and not people that i should trust, but you sound like a nice person, although i dont know you that much''.

So convo after convo, she is mad cool and i want to date her when i move to DR. However i am wondering if is worth the effort, i tell you the disadvantages:

1) I will have to hide the fact that i am atheist for a certain period until we get to a point where we are that confortable with each other.. that may include some visits to church now and then (i cant stand staying in a church for more than 1 hour)

2) The way she seems religious - i bet no sex, till we get married

3) She hating on my music - I have dated one religious (muslim) chick before and she used to beg me not to listen to violent rap because this would make me do violent things. I dont see myself stop listening to hardcore hiphop just because a chick doesnt want me to listen to it and im too much of a rap guy.


My question is not only directed at this chick, im thinking of future religious chicks too. Is it worth to go ahead and date one these chicks?

Btw, when i say she was a 10 in my book, she was a 10 in my book. She had a bodyyyyyyyyyy...

Post: #2

Religious women are just tribal. You have to look like a member of their tribe. You didn't look like a member of her tribe, so now you're just wasting your time.

There are plenty of conservative religious women who are DTF. Churches are a social circle that pre-date the phone, the internet, or literacy. They get men and women together at a slower pace, but once you know the system, you can use it. When I move to a new area I always use churches.

Your goal is to be social proofed at the church so you can travel its social circle. Ironically, attending the formal worship service does NOT social proof you. Instead, there's all these OTHER events the church will hold. You become social proofed only by attending the supplemental events. And there are multiple separate social circles to explore in each church that rarely interact with each other.

Most of these supplemental church events become "group dates". Depending on the church, even the bible study groups can lead to canoodling. You go to these supplemental events, interact with the women, and bam, you're in. From there, it's Roosh's "home cooked meal" story that usually works.

From there, its a matter of shopping around and trying out all the different churches and their social circles in your new area.

Post: #3

I game'em the same way I do with other chicks.I don't have time to "wait" for their perfect moment.
Always go for the bang. Keep pushing. Just don't bring the atheist topic , keep agreeing to everything she says.


I had church-goers that eventually gave up and I got the bang way earlier than I thought.
Don't listen to her.


Do not engage in LTR. Its not worth it.




Just figure a time limit for you( 3-5 dates max) and if she doens't succumb to your attempts go chase other girls.

Post: #4

(01-20-2012 11:05 AM)Mr.GM Wrote:  I game'em the same way I do with other chicks.I don't have time to "wait" for the perfect moment.
Always go for the bang. Keep pushing. Just don't bring the atheist topic , keep agreeing to everything she says.


I had church-goers that eventually gave up and I got the bang way earlier than I thought.
Don't listen to her.


Do not engage in LTR. Its not worth it.




Just figure a time limit for you( 3-5 dates max) and if she doens't succumb to your attempts go chase other girls.

Nice one

However 3-5 dates max seems too quick for me to fuck her, she seems very serious about religion.

Funny enough, i had this haitian chick in DR who had a perfect body telling me that i should be waiting for god bla bla, i need to be saved and all that shit..i was like ok, you need to tell me more about god, come to my house. I took her to my room, i was trying to fuck her and she was not having it..she got really upset and she told me she is going to leave..she kept on saying she was going to leave but she wasnt leaving..next minute i turn the lights off..start touching her..and she started kissing me like crazy and next minute she was fucking me.,.she literallly done all the work.. she was a FREAKY.

However this one seems more hard work. I am even thinking of holding on for few weeks or months before i bang her, she seems to like beta-leaders type of guys, i cant be too direct with her about sex i guess.

Post: #5

She's a 10, of course it's worth it to fuck her. If you think she's got it all, then don't hesitate to try and fuck her. Most of the time you don't get that feeling.

But the real key here is the amount of time and energy you put into this.

The old way, the chump way, the simp way was to fixate on her, and spend every waking moment trying to get into her pants. Daily texts and phone calls, stopping by to visit, going to her church...et cetera. Persistence can work, it's just not a good long term strategy in terms of resources.

This is time you should be spending on getting other hoes.

So you run long game on her. You schedule your contacts with her like you schedule your work outs. You make them quick and intense, and always leave a thread that you can come back to. Make this a part of your down time activities.

Just like working out, once you've put your 15-30 minutes in @ the bench, spend the rest of your time trying to actively fuck other bitches.

Generally you use the back burner treatment for chicks at the job, at school, social circles, where you can't go for full court press for whatever reason.

But they are on the back burner, a crock pot, let that pussy stew, whilst you GO DO OTHER SHIT.

If you're not actively trying to get with other broads, you'll fall into the AFC trap, and get "one itis".

out,
WIA

Post: #6

WIA thats some real talk.

Post: #7

i posted about this somewhere else on here, in the last 2 months two chicks hit me up on facebook an i look at thier page an everything they quote is a bible verse, i give the first girl my number she text me an is im going to a party at my preachers blah blah blah im like whatever, two days later she mistakes me some something about money but i spelled it doll hairs an she was like does that have something to do with giving head? i was like no but that would work to, an shes all like fuck my face lick my pussy shes more preverted them me.... the other bible thumper girl same way.....

i dont really know what the moral of this story is but its relevant to this thread

Post: #8

If you plan on moving there, its certainly worth keeping the option open from afar until then.

When you get there and meet her a few times in person, once she is comfortable with you, just proceed as per normal. Don't assume, just go until she tells you to stop. Like cr33pin says alludes to above, their actions are more of an indicator then the front they put up.

She is playing really hard to get, if she is as hot as you say, she is well aware of that fact too. Religion is one of the few shields that women can use that are really hard to get around if they are truly committed to it.

Post: #9

I feel the way you do about religion, but I don't lie about it. I tell religious types right off the bat I'm not religious, and I don't do church. I consider it a MASSIVE waste of my time (I don't say that, but that's exactly how I feel). A chick I fucked in London goes to church religiously. I actually went with her one night (yeah...her church convenes on Saturday night), and they don't even do the service in English. They're all Brazilian and Africans, so the service is mostly in Portuguese! I was bored to tears, but it was important to her because she talked me up to her friends. Cool. I told her I'd go that ONCE. Many years ago I was seeing a religious chick here in NY, but I NEVER went with her (she's actually gone on to become an ordained minister). I just think for women that are very religious, it can't work with a guy that isn't also, no matter how much they're attracted to other aspects of you. They're always going to preach to you and judge you, and that gets TIRING. Pretending to be religious until you tap it, then revealing your true self will only serve to upset her, because she appears to be devout. If she's SO devout that she won't fuck before marriage...what's in it for you?

Post: #10

You'd be surprised how many church going religious girls are "normal" so to speak when it comes to socializing and sex. Not all, but some.

Post: #11

Just look at all those religious church guys with secret lives, women are equal or worser offenders so there is your answer.
Women are not like men, it is VERY easy to get into their head. Women are very much in the moment, men can think through long term consequences and plan better. And how many pornstars go on to later become bible thumpers after their ass is blown out or pussy or they get aids? Don't buy it, its bull shit, unless she is a nun she is probably dtf or more dtf than any other girl she is just pretending

Post: #12

(01-20-2012 09:22 PM)P Dog Wrote:  You'd be surprised how many church going religious girls are "normal" so to speak when it comes to socializing and sex. Not all, but some.

This. Just go the bang. I gave up on one and lo and behold, I learn she's getting an abortion. You just gotta set the frame of "yea, yea, religion, whatever" and go for the bang. Make that hamster work! Lol

Post: #13

My view, based on some experience, is that extremely religious chicks ARE harder to bang than normal ones. Not to say impossible- just harder, both in the sense that the conversion rate to bang is lower and much more time and work is required to get the bang. For these reasons , and because hyper-religious people creep me out, I avoid these girls.

You have to remember that your time and energy are scarce and highly valuable resources- why not direct your efforts toward normal girls with whom you have a much better chance?

Also, i believe that due to the weird psychology of these girls, they have a much greater potential to get severe "morning after remorse" which can increase the chance that she will claim to family, friends or the police that you "forced" her to do something as a means of avoiding her responsibility for the "sin" she committed with you. Just a danger to keep in mind.

At most, I think you should take the poster's suggestion that you put her on the back burner and reinitiate as circumstances allow, without giving her any priority. When an opportunity arises, try to isolate her quickly and escalate hard. But don't waste much time on her-plenty of willing sluts await you.

Post: #14

Quote:2) The way she seems religious - i bet no sex, till we get married

Pass.

Post: #15

I think it depends on the kind of religion they follow.
Hardcore Buddhist? Maybe not such an issue.
Hardcore Wiccian? Sex is an element of that faith, so it would be a plus.
Hardcore Shia Muslim? Are you insane!?!