Post: #1

A 62-year-old friend met a 47-year-old woman at a party. She is a liberal veterinarian with huge student loans, angry at the world. He is a comparatively successful government worker, but a bit dry, dull, and beta. Obviously she is hotter.

She was difficult and "busy" on the phone. So he cajoled her with "You gotta eat sometime" and scheduled a dinner date. That's bad, but, I don't know that he had much alternative.

Over dinner, he commented on meeting famed investor Warren Buffet, and admired Buffet's enormous charity to the Gates Foundation to vaccinate and feed African children. The woman replied with nonsensical hostility "The Gates Foundation buys hormone-stimulated milk products, and that hurts poor European farmers."

This is a shit test. She obviously knows nothing about the subject. Should he smack this underachieving ignoramus down with:

"You are just silly. How much money did you give to charity last year?"

Or should he just look upon her with bemused pity:

"I told Warren he should spend the money on hookers and cocaine."

Or perhaps a middle ground:

"I don't tell Warren what to do with his money, and he doesn't tell me what to do with mine."

He really needed to display backbone here. Maybe she needs to hear:

"WTF have you ever done for society besides living off student loans and saving rich peoples kitty cats? You need to prove your worth to me."

"You are sitting in a nice restaurant complaing how somebody feeds starving children. Nice. We'll definitely split the check."

and then freezing her out. What is the right track here?

Post: #2

(01-09-2012 09:36 AM)kimleebj Wrote:  "I told Warren he should spend the money on hookers and cocaine."

I think the above is the right general idea. But he should phrase it as "I told Warren he should spend his money on hot, young women."
That drives home the point that men with Warren's kind of money can have hot, young women, not 47 year olds like her. It will put her on the defensive about being well past her prime. If he says hookers, then she'll go off on a tagent about how only pathetic men "pay for it." If he talks about drugs, that just gives her another topic to rant about and it sidetracks the real issue.

The other suggestions you listed could come off as angry or bitter.

BTW, why the hell does she still have student loans at 47???

Post: #3

(01-09-2012 09:36 AM)kimleebj Wrote:  A 62-year-old friend met a 47-year-old woman at a party. She is a liberal veterinarian with huge student loans, angry at the world. He is a comparatively successful government worker, but a bit dry, dull, and beta. Obviously she is hotter.

She was difficult and "busy" on the phone. So he cajoled her with "You gotta eat sometime" and scheduled a dinner date. That's bad, but, I don't know that he had much alternative.

Over dinner, he commented on meeting famed investor Warren Buffet, and admired Buffet's enormous charity to the Gates Foundation to vaccinate and feed African children. The woman replied with nonsensical hostility "The Gates Foundation buys hormone-stimulated milk products, and that hurts poor European farmers."

This is a shit test. She obviously knows nothing about the subject. Should he smack this underachieving ignoramus down with:

"You are just silly. How much money did you give to charity last year?"

Or should he just look upon her with bemused pity:

"I told Warren he should spend the money on hookers and cocaine."

Or perhaps a middle ground:

"I don't tell Warren what to do with his money, and he doesn't tell me what to do with mine."

He really needed to display backbone here. Maybe she needs to hear:

"WTF have you ever done for society besides living off student loans and saving rich peoples kitty cats? You need to prove your worth to me."

"You are sitting in a nice restaurant complaing how somebody feeds starving children. Nice. We'll definitely split the check."

and then freezing her out. What is the right track here?

Unless you are interested in relationship where all the energy will go to political debate, NEVER engage a left wing woman (I assume she's a left winger) in a point-counterpoint discussion. Women in general can't handle logic, and left wing women are particularly challenged in this regard.

I'd turn it around.

"Hmm...so angry. I am sure your bedside manner with the kittys is much better."

Get her self-conscious. Disarm. Never debate.

Post: #4

Ya think? Hey! Why do you wrap hamsters in Duct tape? I do so they don't explode when I fuck them. Is there a better way?

Post: #5

"Right, it'd be better if European farmers could call you, but they don't need powdered milk."

Kind of reminds me why I don't date.

Most people don't really know anything about these people they talk about.

I studied Buffett for a while, stopped once I realized how much of a shill he is for Big Government, and anybody in bed with Goldman Sachs, should not be revered -- I was at the Omaha Convention when basically a whole stadium of his followers were taken aback as he sat there and defended those bastards.

And for good measure he's friends with Bill Gates and wants to leave his entire fortune to his foundation when he dies.

Bill Gates' father was head of Planned Parenthood.

Gates himself is now funding mass vaccination and homosexuality programs as measures for population control.

This information is out there, but you don't get it from peeping shit from the mainstream media, which is ran by people like Gates, who don't want to the masses to be educated on who these people really are and what they really do.

"Philanthropy" is how they whitewash their evil shit.

But back to the original point, on a first date, avoid these topics, you're not showing high value anyway by talking about how much you admire Warren Buffett.

I don't even see the point in talking about anything serious to a woman, until she's shown you that she can actually be spoken to on that level.

Post: #6

(01-09-2012 08:26 PM)jariel Wrote:  and homosexuality programs as measures for population control.

What lol?

Post: #7

(01-09-2012 09:16 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(01-09-2012 08:26 PM)jariel Wrote:  and homosexuality programs as measures for population control.

What lol?

I'm lol'ing at the people who don't know who these people are and what they really do.

Gates invested over $20 million into a pro-gay publishing company.

Why?

Post: #8

Simple.

You don't discredit her, you humiliate her indirectly.

Not with logic, instead target her emotions. As bad as it sounds, you have to make her feel worthless.

I agree with tenderman. Make her self-conscious. Disarm.

Never debate.

I would have probably teased her for twisting my Buffet reference to fit her personal agenda, then looked away until she realized she had been cast out.

Post: #9

First step, check yourself.

What do I want to get out of this interaction?

Lady seems like a bitch. I'd have no desire to spend more time with her, and thus no inclination to pass her shit test.

What's the prize for passing shit tests?

More shit tests from a bitch.

But if I were at a party and wanted to humiliate her, and alienate myself from the thoughtless dregs, I'd have said, "Maybe Warren should have given it to the federal government, so that Obama, whose #1 campaign contributor is Goldman Sachs, could spread the wealth to the 1%."

Post: #10

Respond;

"I don't know much about milk, but this conversation shits me"

Drop $30 on the table, "There, I'm paying my half" then walk off.

Post: #11

(01-09-2012 10:45 PM)T and A Man Wrote:  Respond;

"I don't know much about milk, but this conversation shits me"

Drop $30 on the table, "There, I'm paying my half" then walk off.

The correct answer

Post: #12

"I'm sorry I wasn't listening, you were saying something about having a lactation fetish?"

Post: #13

(01-09-2012 08:26 PM)jariel Wrote:  Gates himself is now funding mass vaccination and homosexuality programs as measures for population control.

That shit is fucking Orwellian, man, imagine a cock being slapped against a man's face....forever...