Post: #1

The thread title is what I don't want to say.

I'm living off investments, I don't really have to work if I stay in a low cost country. (Rural Spain or below in cost.) ( I really am mostly collecting a State pension but there's no way in hell I'm mentioning that!)

I've read the Roosh post about sounding sketchy and vague, and I want to try this.

What I actually really do in my daily life is creative things I've done on my own time all the years I've been working-- I play music and record songs, write and produce microbudget films. I actually play a mean guitar; I'm from before the era of DJ's and computerized music--when people physically played a musical instrument!

Since I got to Ukraine one girl asked what I was doing here, and I told her I'm making a movie-- she seemed impressed, but didn't bang.

I'm thinking of making a sort of vague but true statement, something like "I look for ideas."

This is basically true for any creative person; any artistic creation starts with some kind of idea.

I'm hoping to get more ideas from all you amoral, scheming characters.

Last night I told some female Ukrainian orbiters that I don't have to work; but it took me 18 years to save up enough to get in that situation. The rest of the evening they were quite friendly, and better yet giggly.

Post: #2

You are the owner of ebay or you run different online businesses (you dont have to give them too much details).

Post: #3

iknowexactly, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

Post: #4

(01-02-2012 07:22 AM)P Dog Wrote:  iknowexactly, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

In most states, you have to be 50 to retire if you are a cop of some kind ( parole officers for instance are technically cops some states) or 55 if you are a cubicle monkey.

I'm over 50.

Some states have raised the retirement ages, but I "grandfathered" in, and they only raised it for new hires after a certain date.

Post: #5

Why not just tell girls you've retired?

Post: #6

(01-02-2012 12:30 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Why not just tell girls you've retired?

That may make him seem old, then again that may not matter.


I'd just say you're an artist/musician, traveling to try and find inspiration. If they inquire further, just tell them your previous job made you very wealthy, and now you can pursue what you really want to.

Post: #7

Why do you have to tell them anything in the first place? Make something up that suits your persona and situation.

Post: #8

(01-02-2012 02:20 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  Why do you have to tell them anything in the first place? Make something up that suits your persona and situation.

...or fits "their" persona and situation.

Post: #9

I really don't think you have to worry about this one at all.

I think you could spin it many ways: real estate investor, entrepreneur (so that can be a zillion and one things), financial consultant (private wealth management) but any type of consultancy BS is the best. This means you offer your expertise at a premium and as we know women love expertise in a field.

But when you first meet you don't have to tell them shit..you can be a Drug Lord, Lion Tamer, Snake Charmer, Crocodile Wrestler, Zoologist.

Post: #10

1. You sold a startup in the United States in the late 90s tech boom.
2. (Playfully) You are looking for a wife who knows how to A and B.

Post: #11

I say that I have online businesses and am a "private investor", both of which are true, but not the whole truth. If they press for details I become jokingly evasive, telling them that I don't know them well enough to tell them about my enterprises. Chicks love mystery-so give them something to fantasize about.
I would never use the word "retired"; it has too much of an "old" sound to it. If you don't want to say you are involved in business, you could say you have "private means", " independent means", ""I don't have to work" or something along those lines.
I think presenting yourself as a filmmaker is a fantastic idea. (I am considering doing this myself). Say you are making a documentary, or an underground art film. Give the girls a "screen test" -have them recite some lines or do something spontaneous. My observation is that Artist's Game can do a lot to reduce a girl's concern about age differences, too

Post: #12

I won the lottery - not enough for a private jet, but enough to tell my boss to fuck off.

Insert elaborate story of the day you found out you won the lottery, create excitement; then quitting work. Construct detailed narratives, or hire someone to write you a short story.

Post: #13

Why can't you say you are an Importer? You should be anyway. Find shit they need and figure out how to get it and sell it to them. You will probably find better quality women while you are making deals anyway through business contacts.

Post: #14

Honesty is the best policy... to a degree. I'm sure you have projects you are working on... tell her "a little of this, a little of that." You won't be lying and it's vague enough to ensure an air of mystery around you.

If these women ever dig deeper, give them a bite but never go into real detail. Obviously not a long term strategy.

Post: #15

Thanks for the suggestions. I agree saying retired sounds weak, unless you're younger and it therefore shows superior skills of some kind. I think the best thing for me is the "artsy" persona. It 's the reality, and my tastes run to MUCH younger wimmens. Being involved in the arts keeps an aura of excitement around, helping them maintain the Disneyworld fantasy of life they want so much. To be honest, what if your biodetermined fate was to grow a tumor the size of a football, shit it out almost killing yourself and thus losing your figure and atttractiveness, and be an emotional slave to the tumor-child as it grows. Shit, if I was a chick i'd be a flake too, who would want to face your real haggard, unwanted fate?

Post: #16

You can always imply you do something shady, and just leave it hanging in the air.

Also helps if you get a lot of phone calls.

*phone rings*
*looks @ phone*
you, "customer...Gotta make a delivery in a few"
her, "what do you do?"
you, "I don't want to talk about it"

Post: #17

I'm in the same situation but I'm early 30's. As long as I stay abroad I can survive easily off my investments because I was fortunate when I was a working stiff.

But I rarely ever tell people. I just want to be the normal guy and I think if a girl is into you because of your money she'll be impressed enough that you can travel long-term without having to work. She'll get the picture that you have funds somewhere - you don't really need to go into detail.

Post: #18

(01-03-2012 03:05 PM)nomadicdude Wrote:  I'm in the same situation but I'm early 30's. As long as I stay abroad I can survive easily off my investments because I was fortunate when I was a working stiff.

But I rarely ever tell people. I just want to be the normal guy and I think if a girl is into you because of your money she'll be impressed enough that you can travel long-term without having to work. She'll get the picture that you have funds somewhere - you don't really need to go into detail.

Yes, forget about explaining the [boring] money, just talk about what I "do".
The exciting world of film. Most people love working on films, and there's a spot for almost anyone except the total high-heeled, always in-the-mirror club chick. Anyone can hold a reflector.

Post: #19

Just say you live off investments. Makes you sound baller, don't have to sound old with "retirement" and it's true enough. If you say "pension" you'll have to start explaining shit.

I tell girls I help build online businesses. If they get nosey I start dropping terms like SEO, affiliate campaigns, ppc, and then transition to my passions. Only when I think they are ready do I tell them the full story.

Shift the convo to your passions/hobbies asap. Say "I love not having to work anymore because I have the time to do xyz. So what are you into?"

Post: #20

I tell the girls in Ukraine I have an internet based job, I then run off some Spiel until they look dazed

I would definitely use the arty angle, start talking about films, photography, fashion and watch their pupils dilate.