Post: #1

Unlike most players, in my teen years I was not getting any at all. As a matter of fact I did not have my first kiss until I was 19, sad right? Wanna know more sad things?

- Folks came to the US when I was 10, before then living in Western Europe, moved to Europe when I was 4.
- Went to junior high and high school in Southern California.
- In high school I was a bit nerdy and overweight, parents pushed academics a lot and did not let me go out much, was the butt of nearly every joke among some girls.
-I could not get a prom date, mainly because I was unaware about what a prom date was and was too caught up with academics
- Due to a bad home life and depression, didn't do my best academically (3.5 GPA with a 1980 SAT, wouldn't have got into any good colleges)
- Got rejected from a lot of schools, ages 18-20 were pretty painful overall, would go out to eat and see decent looking girls going with their boyfriends and couples having a happy time while I would be all alone
- The highlight of it all was at the age of 19 through some party and staying over late, I ended up screwing a girl I was friends with in college and she was my first kiss as well, YAY, now back to the sad sad edgar allen poe (okay maybe only say sad) part >=/
-I stayed at home until 20, went to a local university and then transferred (still in college but not living with parents anymore), even though I had more responsibilities like cookin my own meal and paying my own bills, my results with women sure did start getting good!

At the age of 20 I got into a true relationship, I ended up cheating on the girl (which I really do feel bad for now, I am bad, m'kay) and eventually she found out. Didn't go down so well but I go to a big university so it is all alright for now. I dated another girl but ended up cheating on here, she did not find out but I ended up breaking up with her before she could.

Currently in a relationship, keep smacking myself in the face and telling myself I won't cheat on the girl I am with now but somehow, someway, and by some means, being a teenage virgin ended up putting some chip on my shoulder. I told a friend of mines about my desire to be a player but he said "bro, players start early and then they become players, you simply lack the experience, it is like wanting to play NFL quarterback without having played high school football, doesn't happen".

On some sites I have seen the discussions about it and usually the consensus is players lose their virginity early and guys who are late virgins end up marrying the first girl that gives them the time of the day. Not the case with me, being a late virgin has put some chip on my shoulder which I just don't want but something from the past keeps coming back and telling me "make up for the lost time".

Post: #2

... your point being?

Post: #3

(12-31-2011 10:52 PM)Amour Fou Wrote:  ... your point being?

does being a teenage virgin sometimes put a chip on your shoulder? can it make you more inclined to turn into a player?

Post: #4

You're probably going to want to make up for it I guess. Keep in mind 19 is not very late to lose it, technically you're still in your teens and still in college or whatever so don't beat yourself up about it.

Just do whatever makes you happy in terms of women, although if you want to improve your game dump your girlfriend and play the field till you have more experience. Relationship game requires rock solid alphadom to pull off. Even experienced players can revert to betahood during an LTR. You're better off leaving your girlfriend and killing your inner beta for good.

Post: #5

Quote:-I stayed at home until 20, went to a local university and then transferred (still in college but not living with parents anymore), even though I had more responsibilities like cookin my own meal and paying my own bills, my results with women sure did start getting good!

Yes, moving out of your parents' place can skyrocket your number of lays since you have so much freedom. One of the best ways for a young man to increase his lays is actually to just move out. Did you have strict parents? I think this may be the main reason why you had little success in your teens.

Quote:On some sites I have seen the discussions about it and usually the consensus is players lose their virginity early and guys who are late virgins end up marrying the first girl that gives them the time of the day. Not the case with me, being a late virgin has put some chip on my shoulder which I just don't want but something from the past keeps coming back and telling me "make up for the lost time".

Who cares what those guys say? Don't take advice from people who have nothing to lose from the decisions you make.

Think about this in a different way. This gives you an even greater drive and motivation to better your game. Sure, you may not have had success when you were a teenager, but this will give you the drive to "make up" for lost time by sleeping with more women in one year than most men will in their lifetimes. Average guys (which constitute the majority of the male population) lose their virginities at an average age with an average woman and have average social skills, average game, and average success with women. My hypothesis is that it's actually the below-average guys that go on to become players since something awakens deep inside of them to discover the Red Pill.

The brick walls in life are not there to stop you; they're there to prove how much you really want it.

Post: #6

Thing is I like my girlfriend too, I don't wanna leave her yet though you do make a good point...


Yes, I had very strict parents, but as time went on they loosened up. My parents were like hawks, watched me everywhere I went and it got really embarrassing. I was fat because well, the cusine of my culture is LOADED with unhealthy carbs and little to no proteins but I managed to lose weight.

As for average guy, dude I was voted into beautifulpeople.com (okay not trying to be a diva), but I have busted my a** in the gym, I have done MMA, gotten my a** kicked and burned a ton of calories from it to be considered plain and below average in terms of looks (though I am sure you did not mean to come off like that, I am not mad or anything but I believe with all the work I have put in at the gym I am at least a decent looking guy).

From what I can see, good looking guys (like the dude who started this site, no homo), usually go on to be the casanovas. But I am sure a decent looking dude like me can maybe reach that level one day.

And don't take me the wrong way, I appreciated all advice I got

Post: #7

Why was this guy banned?

Post: #8

His posts were shitty and nonsensical as far as I've read.

Post: #9

lol 3.5 with a 1980 will get you into any college besides Ivy league schools.
I had a 1980 but only a 3.0 and got into a pretty good school.