Post: #1

I'm deficient in strategies for approaching these types of groups and I find it takes an entirely different variety of game. Approaching a group composed of girls and obvious beta males is easy enough. I've done this a few times, including last night, and I find that the girls are more than willing to ditch their male companions when a more fortuitous spirit crashes onto the scene. I usually begin an engagement with one of these groups by making an observation about the place to a male first and slowly working my way into the rest of the group.

Approaching groups with an alpha or two present is extremely difficult for me, but they are goldmines of pussy since the girls obviously coalesce around them. What are some things you guys have done to defuse alpha males?

One thing that worked for me a couple nights ago was to make the AMOG appear intellectually inferior to me. I was able to work my way into the group because I was friends with a person in it. The alpha stated a truism about genetics/evolution that was totally off and I corrected him authoritatively (and without looking like a nerd). There was little he could do but stand and nod and I won a great deal of power over the group that way.

Post: #2

Don't waste your time.

2-sets are a goldmine. Always assume they're DTF. Why would two girls just go out for the night on their own? To stare at each other's faces all night? Girls in pairs are obviously looking to meet men. But you won't isolate the girl you want - she won't ditch her friend and let herself be alone. Bring a good wingman.

3-sets are manageable.

4 or more and it's a pain the ass. These are the ones on a "girls night out" there to "just dance". The girls band together, the herd group-think mentality kicks in and suddenly every guy that dares approach is branded a "creeper". To successfully approach a girl you have to win over the MOTHER HEN AND HER FLOCK of friends or you WILL get stymied before you can try to get one alone - most younger girls will side with her friends over a "random", even if she finds you attractive. The herd force-field is strong. Many of these girls are there to just hang with their girls/social circle and take pictures for Facebook. Approaching these large groups is a suicide mission for most guys. Don't waste your time.