I really liked the concept of crossfit. Trainers program workouts - all you have to do is show up and do the WOD.
Sadly, the toughest part of crossfit is the risk of injury. Because they emphasize on reps instead of quality of rep, your form starts to deteriorate toward the end of the workout for average people. I screwed my right knee up while doing a rope climb in the last set of a WOD (Dancer) and it hasn't felt the same ever again. Baker's Cyst was diagnosed on it. It's going to be with me forever.
While I felt like my cardiovascular endurance was increasing, I felt I had minimum gains on my lifts. Pure lifting days aren't really programmed. I loved the olympic lifts though, you really feel like everything is getting worked out on them. There aren't enough gyms in LA that purely focus on powerlifting, I'd recommend that over crossfit any day.
The communities can be hit or miss. With that being said, crossfit produces some very nice women.
01-10-2014 11:45 PM
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(01-11-2014 12:38 AM)elabayarde Wrote: Anyone know of a nationwide gym, that has crosscut. I travel extensively.
A lot of the time you can drop in to a gym for a flat fee. Sometimes other gyms will even let you work out for two weeks tops if you can send them validation of your membership at another gym.
Global gyms don't really carry crossfit because it's a liability. Olympic movements are hard to teach. The best you can get is a watered down bootcamp with body weight exercises. These duplicate metcons.
(01-10-2014 11:45 PM)Richiavelli Wrote: Because they emphasize on reps instead of quality of rep, your form starts to deteriorate toward the end of the workout for average people.
False. They focus on Technique (form), Consistency (how often you go) and THEN Intensity (pushing yourself).
Understand that the Crossfit community just like any other. You got your good instructors and your bad instructors.
First things first: Technique.
Been doing this for a while and you can easily correct peoples form right off the bat. I saw a video on youtube names: Crossfit fail and yeahh...just check it out lol That's not Crossfit, that's stupidity
(01-10-2014 11:45 PM)Richiavelli Wrote: Because they emphasize on reps instead of quality of rep, your form starts to deteriorate toward the end of the workout for average people.
False. They focus on Technique (form), Consistency (how often you go) and THEN Intensity (pushing yourself).
Understand that the Crossfit community just like any other. You got your good instructors and your bad instructors.
First things first: Technique.
Been doing this for a while and you can easily correct peoples form right off the bat. I saw a video on youtube names: Crossfit fail and yeahh...just check it out lol That's not Crossfit, that's stupidity
It's fine to say that on paper. And some coaches may actually believe this and try to enforce it, but the philosophy is flawed because of simple incentives.
The goal of many of the workouts is to do many reps of a complicated movement as fast as possible.
Are all crossfitters going to self regulate and make sure each rep is done with good form at the expense of a lower time?
Human nature suggests that in the competitive environment of a "box" this would not be the case.
I went to a major crossfit competition recently (friend had a free ticket). One of the workouts was 30 clean and jerks for time. The last 15 reps for most of the competitors were god awful, and at least once competitor injured their shoulder.
01-20-2014 07:30 AM
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(01-10-2014 11:45 PM)Richiavelli Wrote: Because they emphasize on reps instead of quality of rep, your form starts to deteriorate toward the end of the workout for average people.
False. They focus on Technique (form), Consistency (how often you go) and THEN Intensity (pushing yourself).
Understand that the Crossfit community just like any other. You got your good instructors and your bad instructors.
First things first: Technique.
Been doing this for a while and you can easily correct peoples form right off the bat. I saw a video on youtube names: Crossfit fail and yeahh...just check it out lol That's not Crossfit, that's stupidity
It's fine to say that on paper. And some coaches may actually believe this and try to enforce it, but the philosophy is flawed because of simple incentives.
The goal of many of the workouts is to do many reps of a complicated movement as fast as possible.
Are all crossfitters going to self regulate and make sure each rep is done with good form at the expense of a lower time?
Human nature suggests that in the competitive environment of a "box" this would not be the case.
I went to a major crossfit competition recently (friend had a free ticket). One of the workouts was 30 clean and jerks for time. The last 15 reps for most of the competitors were god awful, and at least once competitor injured their shoulder.
You got a point. It all comes down to your ego. Did a buddy workout with this guy a couple days ago. We had to knock out x amount of Deadlifts. His back was so f*ckin rounded. I told him to watch his back but he ignored me.
(01-26-2014 09:07 PM)Shooter Wrote: You got a point. It all comes down to your ego. Did a buddy workout with this guy a couple days ago. We had to knock out x amount of Deadlifts. His back was so f*ckin rounded. I told him to watch his back but he ignored me.
Oh well LOL
buddy workouts can go either way, I have had some really bad ones, so much so I almost refuse to do them without knowing the person/people I am pairing up with. I've watched people mess themselves up, and risked injury when being paired with an inexperienced dweeb. Always partner up with people at your skill level.
(This post was last modified: 01-26-2014 09:35 PM by Vaun.)
(01-10-2014 11:45 PM)Richiavelli Wrote: Because they emphasize on reps instead of quality of rep, your form starts to deteriorate toward the end of the workout for average people.
False. They focus on Technique (form), Consistency (how often you go) and THEN Intensity (pushing yourself).
Understand that the Crossfit community just like any other. You got your good instructors and your bad instructors.
First things first: Technique.
Been doing this for a while and you can easily correct peoples form right off the bat. I saw a video on youtube names: Crossfit fail and yeahh...just check it out lol That's not Crossfit, that's stupidity
It's fine to say that on paper. And some coaches may actually believe this and try to enforce it, but the philosophy is flawed because of simple incentives.
The goal of many of the workouts is to do many reps of a complicated movement as fast as possible.
Are all crossfitters going to self regulate and make sure each rep is done with good form at the expense of a lower time?
Human nature suggests that in the competitive environment of a "box" this would not be the case.
I went to a major crossfit competition recently (friend had a free ticket). One of the workouts was 30 clean and jerks for time. The last 15 reps for most of the competitors were god awful, and at least once competitor injured their shoulder.
the problem I see is that people are too prideful and embarrassed to scale to their proper weight. The 30 Clean and Jerks for time is Grace, and with the 135# weight, someone should be doing it around 2 minutes or less, I can do it under 2 minutes easily with no form break down. If someone is struggling to do a basic easy workout like that with form breakdown they should be scaling the workout down to 95#, or even lower. Scaling is not happening enough in my opinion, and the onus isnt always on the instructor. If someone is dumb enough to lift something too heavy to perform the correct movement, in my opinion, so be it. Let them weed themselves out, injure themselves and leave the gym. You cant always blame a coach, especially in a bigger class with 20+ people.
(This post was last modified: 01-26-2014 09:44 PM by Vaun.)
I can't have sex with your personality, and I can't put my penis in your college degree, and I can't shove my fist in your childhood dreams, so why are you sharing all this information with me?
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Hey guys, so I recently wrote a post on my blog with my reflections from doing crossfit for 6 months. Check it out, let me know where you agree, disagree, etc.
(10-22-2013 02:29 AM)Fisto Wrote: I was being paid as the main sparring partner for a guy that was fighting for the UFC title. We were living at the MusclePharm compound in Denver.
Where you a sparring partner for Rampage for his Jon Jones title fight?
08-08-2014 04:31 PM
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Anyway digging up an old thread but I am considering Crossfit since I am kind of bored of my Gym. I'm kind of after a group atmosphere as the gym is just getting to me with every person walking around like drones with ear buds in. Plus it could open up some possibilities with some of crossfit chicks....at least there would be socializing i assume to a degree.
My biggest concern is injury rates and general joint health which is why I haven't stepped foot in a crossfit gym. I've had an issue with my left shoulder for 10 years now(i think slight tear with rotator cuff and it's never healed. I can't do military presses for example and wide pull ups are an issue). I develop a slight golfer's elbow as well in my left arm this year which I am resting now(i got this mostly from dips).
It isn't that cheap either. I'd be looking at 2x/week (1yr agreement)$100.00 monthly or 2x/week (month to month) $125.00 monthly. I don't think I would ever trust my joints to 3 times a week. I still don't think i can take the plunge with my joint concerns.
(08-08-2014 05:23 PM)The Wire Wrote: Anyway digging up an old thread but I am considering Crossfit since I am kind of bored of my Gym. I'm kind of after a group atmosphere as the gym is just getting to me with every person walking around like drones with ear buds in. Plus it could open up some possibilities with some of crossfit chicks....at least there would be socializing i assume to a degree.
My biggest concern is injury rates and general joint health which is why I haven't stepped foot in a crossfit gym. I've had an issue with my left shoulder for 10 years now(i think slight tear with rotator cuff and it's never healed. I can't do military presses for example and wide pull ups are an issue). I develop a slight golfer's elbow as well in my left arm this year which I am resting now(i got this mostly from dips).
It isn't that cheap either. I'd be looking at 2x/week (1yr agreement)$100.00 monthly or 2x/week (month to month) $125.00 monthly. I don't think I would ever trust my joints to 3 times a week. I still don't think i can take the plunge with my joint concerns.
I did crossfit during it's early days. I still know a lot of crossfitters and I often will turn up at crossfit comptetitions to compete. I will tell you that the number one injury among crossfitters are shoulder injuries. Hands down from kipping pullups, to muscle ups, to high rep jerk/snatch variations: the movements are absolute hell on the shoulder joint.
All of this is done without proper upper back stabilization like you would find in powerlifting or weighlifting gyms. If you're bored with your training try a sport. Don't make your workouts a competition, it never ends well.
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08-11-2014 11:57 AM
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I used to go to a gym that had an "executive fitness" class that was actually quite good. It was modelled after a CrossFit class but the metcon work was toned down and the strength portion was scaled up. The class was an hour long and went something like this each time:
10 minute warm up
10 minute dynamic stretching
20 minutes of strength training (1 compound exercise, warm up sets, working up to heavy sets of 3 to 5 reps)
15 minutes of strength based cardio
5 minutes of cooldown
(08-08-2014 05:23 PM)The Wire Wrote: Anyway digging up an old thread but I am considering Crossfit since I am kind of bored of my Gym. I'm kind of after a group atmosphere as the gym is just getting to me with every person walking around like drones with ear buds in. Plus it could open up some possibilities with some of crossfit chicks....at least there would be socializing i assume to a degree.
My biggest concern is injury rates and general joint health which is why I haven't stepped foot in a crossfit gym. I've had an issue with my left shoulder for 10 years now(i think slight tear with rotator cuff and it's never healed. I can't do military presses for example and wide pull ups are an issue). I develop a slight golfer's elbow as well in my left arm this year which I am resting now(i got this mostly from dips).
It isn't that cheap either. I'd be looking at 2x/week (1yr agreement)$100.00 monthly or 2x/week (month to month) $125.00 monthly. I don't think I would ever trust my joints to 3 times a week. I still don't think i can take the plunge with my joint concerns.
I did crossfit during it's early days. I still know a lot of crossfitters and I often will turn up at crossfit comptetitions to compete. I will tell you that the number one injury among crossfitters are shoulder injuries. Hands down from kipping pullups, to muscle ups, to high rep jerk/snatch variations: the movements are absolute hell on the shoulder joint.
All of this is done without proper upper back stabilization like you would find in powerlifting or weighlifting gyms. If you're bored with your training try a sport. Don't make your workouts a competition, it never ends well.
The two aspects of crossfit looking from the outside that I think I would really like are the olympic style lifts and the community aspect. But you're right, making excerise as a competition can be an issue. Steve Maxwell sums it up at the 4:00 min mark nicely http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy8dw3oCek0#t=259