Post: #1

My friend used to pull this shit all the time. I don't think I have the personality type to pull it off myself. He was a real complete asshole so it worked for him.

Alright here's the concept:

This goes beyond the normal neg or asshole game tactic. I'll explain...

He would always dominate the conversation in groups. Never let a person get a word in.(Typical AMOG maneuver) And if you did he would insult the living shit of you until you stopped interrupting him. He would then pick a target girl in the group and start with simple negs. Making fun of where she was from. Saying they are all toothless white trash from that town or state or wherever.

His favorite neg joke was: How do you know the toothbrush was invented in (Whatever town or State she was from)? Because if it was invented anywhere else it would be called the teethbrush.

Then he would gradually keep pushing her limits until she flipped out and wanted to kill him. Now he knew how far he could push her before she would get mad and hit him.

The point is to knock her out of the logical realm and into the emotional realm. Once you get her all pissed off and emotional she stops thinking straight and you can truly game her.

At this point he would spin it around and start being super nice to her. Like it it was her fault that she can't take a joke. Now he's got her feeling bad and guilty and submissive. Girls never want to look like the bitch out of the group so they give in.

He'd then get them alone and escalate and bang.

It's not hard to turn hatred into attraction with women.

Post: #2

Meh, it seems like a waste of time almost. I think most women make up their mind to bang you in the first 5 minutes of meeting you, some will take longer and they might just be the kind of girls who are virgin or rarely sleep around but will sleep with you the 2nd time around.

The only kind of girls you are going to pick up with this method are low self esteem ones. Not necessarily a bad move, but waste time in my opinion because some girls who like you may not come back from it.

Game has 3 parts -intiation -building attraction - getting girl into bed. This seems likes a waste of time as far as the first and last are concerned but can be useful for building attraction. But I think 2-3 negs over 30 minutes followed by listening and questioning a girl is a better use of time to build attraction. Remember you want to use your time effectively, because if a girl pussies out on you and won't give up da pussy, you want to be able to move onto the next one. Even if his game only takes 15 minutes, in a night and he runs that on 10 girls, he is wasting 150 minutes or nearly 3 hours doing something with marginal use. I'd rather spend 10 minutes on 10 girls than 25 per girl.

Post: #3

(12-09-2011 11:40 PM)misterstir Wrote:  The only kind of girls you are going to pick up with this method are low self esteem ones. Not necessarily a bad move, but waste time in my opinion because some girls who like you may not come back from it.

Yeah I could see that. He slept with a lot of girls though. Guess he was picking out the weak ones.

This is/was his default game. It got a little old for me to be around him. He kept running this same routine for years. I got tired of hearing it a 1000 times.

Post: #4

It's not the low-self esteem girls who fall for this. I'd say it's the opposite. It's the vain, arrogant bitches who would decide that this guy, this little piece of shit, deserves the holy wrath of her bitchdom and must be put down.

He then uses her intensity to turn it around and bang. I could definitely see this work on a lawyer chick.

Post: #5

(12-09-2011 10:32 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  My friend used to pull this shit all the time. I don't think I have the personality type to pull it off myself. He was a real complete asshole so it worked for him.

Alright here's the concept:

This goes beyond the normal neg or asshole game tactic. I'll explain...

He would always dominate the conversation in groups. Never let a person get a word in.(Typical AMOG maneuver) And if you did he would insult the living shit of you until you stopped interrupting him. He would then pick a target girl in the group and start with simple negs. Making fun of where she was from. Saying they are all toothless white trash from that town or state or wherever.

His favorite neg joke was: How do you know the toothbrush was invented in (Whatever town or State she was from)? Because if it was invented anywhere else it would be called the teethbrush.

Then he would gradually keep pushing her limits until she flipped out and wanted to kill him. Now he knew how far he could push her before she would get mad and hit him.

The point is to knock her out of the logical realm and into the emotional realm. Once you get her all pissed off and emotional she stops thinking straight and you can truly game her.

At this point he would spin it around and start being super nice to her. Like it it was her fault that she can't take a joke. Now he's got her feeling bad and guilty and submissive. Girls never want to look like the bitch out of the group so they give in.

He'd then get them alone and escalate and bang.

It's not hard to turn hatred into attraction with women.

This is the exact game that Patrice O'neal(RIP) used on women. He describes it in his Black Phillip Show

Post: #6

(12-10-2011 01:57 AM)Samseau Wrote:  It's not the low-self esteem girls who fall for this. I'd say it's the opposite. It's the vain, arrogant bitches who would decide that this guy, this little piece of shit, deserves the holy wrath of her bitchdom and must be put down.

He then uses her intensity to turn it around and bang. I could definitely see this work on a lawyer chick.

Vain arrogant girls are often the lowest self esteem ones. The girls who toss on the most make up are the ones with no self esteem.

Girls with low self esteem tend to have lots of insecurities so tend to put on a blab of makeup to make themself feel better, now they become the hot girl (or the ugly girl with lots of makeup). Breaking a girl who is hot (hot by our standards is good looking with a bunch of makeup) down through making fun of her is simply playing on her insecurities and low self esteem. You think lawyer chicks aren't insecure? They spend their entire lives trying to compete and act like lawyer men in a male dominated profession.

Really only a girl who has a strong father figure and is not doused in make up and overly concerned about how she looks is likely to be secure. Luckily for us, the makeup industry tells women they are not good enough and too ugly, so such a method works fairly well. If you ever want to find a wife though, and this method fails, you found marriage material.

Post: #7

I knew a guy who would do that, he would get shit face drunk and just be a complete idiotic asshole. He would talk down to girls so bad that it would almost get uncomfortable, almost too far. Typically 6 out of 7 girls would just tell him to fuck off and walk away, but then youve got these freaky girls with those daddy issues. Those are the ones who he would pull with this game. He was a pretty good looking guy tho so i dont know how well this would work for every player out there.

Same guy would play the "youre the most beautiful girl i have ever seen" game with somewhat better results.

Post: #8

I like the idea of getting her out of the rational mind into the emotional realm, key point in seducing women.

How would he salvage it though, by the time he starts gaming she abhors him so I think it'd be hard to get her thinking about anything but killing him (hatefuck anyone?) I know you said he starts being nice and makes them feel bad for not getting the joke, but what if shes so far gone or stubborn, then you look like a dick to everyone there.

If I think back I've had one experience from this, in the summer. I'd been drinking ALL DAY. Ran into a friend after the lake go to a house party where I knew no one. They were all teenagers. This one drunk LG starts talking about her friend Anne. I make an arrested development reference (too stupid she didnt get it). She tells me anne's her friend, I say FUCK ANNE. She glares at me and demands I never say it again. I say it a few more times until she's furious, in front of about 20 people she straight up punches me in the face (apparently she was a blackbelt, the punch said otherwise). Anyways I have a shit eating grin on my face the whole time and laugh after she hits me. All of the people start bitching at HER for hitting me (next level right, iI knew none of them). We ended up going to this park ( a few of us) where i meet the INFAMOUS ANNNE. I game her and just as I'm getting her number punchybitch comes over and starts screaming. Unintentionally I made this girl look like a complete irrational cunt, and by being super nice to everyone else they just thought she was retarded. I got a makeout with another girl later that night.

Is that the same style (albeit slightly different) than your friends? I made a girl horrendously pissed off, but then later was nice to everyone instead of just her and gained success.

Post: #9

Well we have a pretty tight social circle. He would only single out new girls brought in. Everyone but the girl already knew he's an asshole so nobody said or did anything.

It's not the same as going out to a bar with a wing and hitting on random girls. His main gaming venues were house/woods parties. Always had the home court advantage. I don't think he could ever cold approach in a bar or club to save his life. He'd get bounced out before he finished his beer.

Post: #10

That makes sense, maybe a girl takes it as more of an initiation into the social circle once the guy starts being nicer because if no one else is flipping there has to be some sort of reason why he'd be doing it. Gets the hamster spinning and eventually qualifies her ie. you've passed the test we/I accept you.

Post: #11

(12-10-2011 12:08 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  That makes sense, maybe a girl takes it as more of an initiation into the social circle once the guy starts being nicer because if no one else is flipping there has to be some sort of reason why he'd be doing it. Gets the hamster spinning and eventually qualifies her ie. you've passed the test we/I accept you.

Group dynamics are an interesting thing aren't they? LOL

Post: #12

LOL yeah. I think once my first round of final exams are done I'm going to start reading into social dynamics like it was another class I'm taking.

Post: #13

Well women in a group friend setting will tolerate shit that they would not from you if you approached them as a stranger. you won't get attitude in a group setting, she'd be called out quickly, she won't ignore you, she will take lots of shit, I can tell her she is a whore and she'd say whats wrong with you but it'd be an easy recovery

Post: #14

I think that the hardest part of this kind of game would be finding friends that would put up with this kind of shit. They'd have to be sycophants or accomplices, and accomplices would want a share of the pie. The approach toward the woman seems plausible, but how long would the circle stick around if one was a jackass toward them?

Post: #15

It usually only works on girls that are the right combination of neurotic and validation seeking.

Although its great for harem management. If I'm fucking a girl regularly and I can tell she's drifting away, I'd do something similar to that. Keeps them strung on for a while longer due to the emotional roller coaster you put them through and the demonstration of your own unpredictability.

Post: #16

This reads to me as a method to create strong emotions in a woman. As they say, it's a thin line between love and hate, and sometimes creating a little animosity, then pulling back, can make a chick oddly attracted to you because you managed to provoke something in her. Some women/couples THRIVE on animosity. They get off on arguing, and even physically fighting, then they have the most explosive fuck sessions.