Post: #101

(02-11-2012 02:58 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(02-11-2012 02:27 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  

Quote:The whole feeling powerfull and horny thing : I'm not buying it. Down to the core, its downright escapism.

Sounds like you've never been without orgasm shorter than a week. It's simply a fact that you feel more horny and alert if you haven't ejaculated for a while.

You're libido must be 200% higher than mine because I could never watch porn, masturbate and talk women into fucking 1 hour after I watched.

I wonder if you even comprehend what i said. Its not my libido that drives me, its the winner mentality. Better read it again.

I said three hours, who the hell jerks off an hour before he goes out. I have better things to do like taking a shit,shave and shower.

relieve body toxin, make yourself look good, then clean yourself...indeed, way better than letting out the thing that will help you game then fuck the girl.

Post: #102

(02-11-2012 03:29 PM)Enfant_Terrible Wrote:  

(02-11-2012 02:58 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(02-11-2012 02:27 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  

Quote:The whole feeling powerfull and horny thing : I'm not buying it. Down to the core, its downright escapism.

Sounds like you've never been without orgasm shorter than a week. It's simply a fact that you feel more horny and alert if you haven't ejaculated for a while.

You're libido must be 200% higher than mine because I could never watch porn, masturbate and talk women into fucking 1 hour after I watched.

I wonder if you even comprehend what i said. Its not my libido that drives me, its the winner mentality. Better read it again.

I said three hours, who the hell jerks off an hour before he goes out. I have better things to do like taking a shit,shave and shower.

relieve body toxin, make yourself look good, then clean yourself...indeed, way better than letting out the thing that will help you game then fuck the girl.

O wait, that should be shit , shower and then shave haha. I've been in bathrooms so small you could easily do it all at once.

Post: #103

(02-11-2012 02:58 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(02-11-2012 02:27 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  

Quote:The whole feeling powerfull and horny thing : I'm not buying it. Down to the core, its downright escapism.

Sounds like you've never been without orgasm shorter than a week. It's simply a fact that you feel more horny and alert if you haven't ejaculated for a while.

You're libido must be 200% higher than mine because I could never watch porn, masturbate and talk women into fucking 1 hour after I watched.

I wonder if you even comprehend what i said. Its not my libido that drives me, its the winner mentality. Better read it again.

I said three hours, who the hell jerks off an hour before he goes out. I have better things to do like taking a shit,shave and shower before i go out.

Quote:I wonder if you even comprehend what i said. Its not my libido that drives me, its the winner mentality. Better read it again.

And I wonder if you even understand how an addiction works. Who cares about a winning mentality if porn together with masturbation is causing problems for the person. Many if not all guys with porn addiction see benefits from quitting porn and masturbation.

Quote:I said three hours, who the hell jerks off an hour before he goes out. I have better things to do like taking a shit,shave and shower.

I was simply giving an example. I know for myself that I would be more motivated to game women if I didn't masturbate (to porn) a short period before going out.

It seems you think we are against masturbation when it's porn together with masturbation that's the addiction.

Post: #104

(02-11-2012 05:31 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  

(02-11-2012 02:58 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(02-11-2012 02:27 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  

Quote:The whole feeling powerfull and horny thing : I'm not buying it. Down to the core, its downright escapism.

Sounds like you've never been without orgasm shorter than a week. It's simply a fact that you feel more horny and alert if you haven't ejaculated for a while.

You're libido must be 200% higher than mine because I could never watch porn, masturbate and talk women into fucking 1 hour after I watched.

I wonder if you even comprehend what i said. Its not my libido that drives me, its the winner mentality. Better read it again.

I said three hours, who the hell jerks off an hour before he goes out. I have better things to do like taking a shit,shave and shower before i go out.

Quote:I wonder if you even comprehend what i said. Its not my libido that drives me, its the winner mentality. Better read it again.

And I wonder if you even understand how an addiction works. Who cares about a winning mentality if porn together with masturbation is causing problems for the person. Many if not all guys with porn addiction see benefits from quitting porn and masturbation.

Quote:I said three hours, who the hell jerks off an hour before he goes out. I have better things to do like taking a shit,shave and shower.

I was simply giving an example. I know for myself that I would be more motivated to game women if I didn't masturbate (to porn) a short period before going out.

It seems you think we are against masturbation when it's porn together with masturbation that's the addiction.

I feel like i'm talking to a brick wall. Go cold turkey than, go to the folder on your computer where you have your porn, MAN UP and delete it all at once. Only jerk of when there is no outside stimulation like porn vids,pictures or magazines.

Its not like you get psychically ill like some heroine junkie if you don't have porn. Find something else to do and stop making excuses.

Post: #105

You think I have porn on my computer? Ha, that would be like a smoker not washing his clothes after smoking and then trying to quit.

Post: #106

(02-11-2012 07:49 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  You think I have porn on my computer? Ha, that would be like a smoker not washing his clothes after smoking and then trying to quit.

You are talking around the subject again and in riddles too. Get to the point. So where is your porn than if not on your computer ?

Post: #107

The thing about porn now (obviously), it doesn't matter if you already have it downloaded on your computer, anyone can get steaming porn, just a click a way. It makes it hard, and a temptation for anyone with high speed internet at home.

Post: #108

(02-12-2012 05:34 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(02-11-2012 07:49 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  You think I have porn on my computer? Ha, that would be like a smoker not washing his clothes after smoking and then trying to quit.

You are talking around the subject again and in riddles too. Get to the point. So where is your porn than if not on your computer ?

Dude you don't understand porn addiction at all. I will give you these links to understand it since I do not feel like typing.

http://www.feedtherightwolf.org/
http://yourbrainonporn.com/

+ the hundreds of people on those site confirming porn is really harming their lifes. Obviously, if you aren't addicted, there's no problem.

Post: #109

(02-12-2012 05:50 AM)Donald Duck Wrote:  

(02-12-2012 05:34 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(02-11-2012 07:49 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  You think I have porn on my computer? Ha, that would be like a smoker not washing his clothes after smoking and then trying to quit.

You are talking around the subject again and in riddles too. Get to the point. So where is your porn than if not on your computer ?

Dude you don't understand porn addiction at all. I will give you these links to understand it since I do not feel like typing.

http://www.feedtherightwolf.org/
http://yourbrainonporn.com/

+ the hundreds of people on those site confirming porn is really harming their lifes. Obviously, if you aren't addicted, there's no problem.

I gave enough advice already. If you don't want to listen and keep making excuses for yourself, that's fine with me.

Keep denying and feeling sorry for yourself or try to solve your addiction, its that easy.

Problem - porn addiction
solution - delete everything from your computer, throw away magazines,dvd's, vhs tapes, do something else. Stay away from the computer but for gods sake MAN UP.

Post: #110

One month with out yanking that snake! Don't get it twisted tho Jeneve Jolie and Isabella Pacino still getting good screen time but I've tried to at least cut out one as both seemed to go hand in hand. It was a messy month, I've got out lots, hit the gym haaaaaaard, and porn consumption has gone down. I still would jelq and shit to porn but not nut.

Its still tough tho like I said in another thread I am convinced my brain is completely fried from porn. My dompamine levels are probaly all over the places with spikes and crashes. This does move into other parts of your life as you are very much crash and burn.

Divorce one of the two, if you have an unhealthy high labdio then go get rubbed out by some Asian at a massage joint. The mental infliction that porn+masturbation has IMO is worse then the coin it costs to get a nut out. Is it cheating? Ya maybe...

Post: #111

Has anyone else tried safe-eyes? I installed it using a randomly searched promo code and got my closest friend to administer the account so there would be no risk of relapse. Now I waste about 40% less time surfing on the internet.

I would say that after about 2 weeks of no bishop bashing my aggression gets out of control. I suppose that is the body's way of saying go get some ass. Best go get some.

Post: #112

(02-13-2012 01:12 AM)r_passion Wrote:  Has anyone else tried safe-eyes? I installed it using a randomly searched promo code and got my closest friend to administer the account so there would be no risk of relapse. Now I waste about 40% less time surfing on the internet.

I would say that after about 2 weeks of no bishop bashing my aggression gets out of control. I suppose that is the body's way of saying go get some ass. Best go get some.

I currently use K9 and also let someone else re-set the password.

No kidding about the aggression. After 10 days, I found myself driving violently with music blasting.

Post: #113

I understand trying to reduce masturbation to increase your motivation to game women but for me the effort it takes to talk to women is way less than the effort it would take to stop masturbating. It takes me one day of not fapping before I'm horny enough to want to bust another nut so I don't see the benefits of abstaining for more than 2 days. Whenever there was a time when I had the choice of either going out to game or staying in to masturbate, I don't ever remember making the choice of jerking off instead.


Yea but if the act in itself is consuming hours of your day then sure go ahead and try to remove it from your life altogether.

Post: #114

With all the download sites AND cheggit gone, i've seriously cut back on any porn I watch.

Post: #115

Donald, Neil is right. Just remove every source you have to access porn. Its not like you will get withdrawal and start shaking for not watching porn for weeks, and when you get to that point, you will realize that your addiction wasn't much of a big deal.

Like he said, man up and hit delete. Put and end to that shit.

Its ok to masturbate, but you mentioned clearly that its porn thats causing you problems. So, re-read what I just said.

Post: #116

For dudes worried about coming too fast... it WILL happen. HOWEVER, if its been a week for me, I can just keep going like nothing ever happened. Refractory period = 5 seconds.

Neil, if your game is really tight I can see how it could simply become a game and pickup can be fun in its own right. You're aware of the rewards (sex) and you just provide a means toward an end. If you have plenty of success, and are banging girls on a weekly basis, I can see how it would be easy to do everything as a process. Like you said its a "sport" and you've gotten so good at it you can see the girls behavior change once you start spitting game at her.

Being less experienced however, learning to talk to women and bed them can be boring and some find that a strong biological urge helps immensely toward that goal. I know if I'm freshly wanked, I simply couldn't care less about the opposite sex. I'd rather just relax and have a few brews. I don't have a streamlined process where I can tell myself if I do A+B+C+D I'll have a good chance have fucking girl X tonight.

I'm simply not motivated enough to jump through a bunch of hoops. Being horny, I will jump through whatever is necessary.

Post: #117

(02-13-2012 08:14 PM)FretDancer Wrote:  Donald, Neil is right. Just remove every source you have to access porn. Its not like you will get withdrawal and start shaking for not watching porn for weeks, and when you get to that point, you will realize that your addiction wasn't much of a big deal.

Like he said, man up and hit delete. Put and end to that shit.

Its ok to masturbate, but you mentioned clearly that its porn thats causing you problems. So, re-read what I just said.

My friend, I never even had porn on my computer... It has nothing to do with 'manning up.' It's online streaming porn that's already blocked. Lets see how it goes now.

Post: #118

Has anyone did the full 3 month long reboot with absolutely no pornography and masturbation? And if so, were the results what you expected or did they surpass them? I'm currently on 15 days and feel like my vesicles are about to explode. However, my level of aggressiveness is unsurpassed and my confidence reaches the sky.

Post: #119

I have drastically reduced my masturbation and porn watching frequency (from a few times a day to maybe once per two weeks or less) because I found it was important to me. Not because of motivation to go out and game women - however, I had gotten so much more used to my own touch and fantasies that it desensitized me and I started to have problems with erection when having sex with a real woman. When you added a condom on top of all that, often I couldn't get an erection at all. I'm much happier (and more successful now).

Post: #120

(02-14-2012 02:40 AM)Ubietza Wrote:  Has anyone did the full 3 month long reboot with absolutely no pornography and masturbation? And if so, were the results what you expected or did they surpass them? I'm currently on 15 days and feel like my vesicles are about to explode. However, my level of aggressiveness is unsurpassed and my confidence reaches the sky.

Check out the NoFap on Reddit. Lots of anecdotes, including crazy mofos who went 90 days.

Post: #121

(02-13-2012 08:15 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  For dudes worried about coming too fast... it WILL happen. HOWEVER, if its been a week for me, I can just keep going like nothing ever happened. Refractory period = 5 seconds.

Neil, if your game is really tight I can see how it could simply become a game and pickup can be fun in its own right. You're aware of the rewards (sex) and you just provide a means toward an end. If you have plenty of success, and are banging girls on a weekly basis, I can see how it would be easy to do everything as a process. Like you said its a "sport" and you've gotten so good at it you can see the girls behavior change once you start spitting game at her.

Being less experienced however, learning to talk to women and bed them can be boring and some find that a strong biological urge helps immensely toward that goal. I know if I'm freshly wanked, I simply couldn't care less about the opposite sex. I'd rather just relax and have a few brews. I don't have a streamlined process where I can tell myself if I do A+B+C+D I'll have a good chance have fucking girl X tonight.

I'm simply not motivated enough to jump through a bunch of hoops. Being horny, I will jump through whatever is necessary.

Being less experienced means you should go out more and get more experienced. Do you think i learned game in a one day. Its trial and error.
Discipline is the way to all success. When i was in Brazil i didn't get laid for the first 18 days there and was going out almost daily. I kept on going ( while giving it an daily jerk) and because of hard determination i had two SNL's in a row and banged other girls after in Rio and other parts of Brazil.
i had nearly given up but remembered my challenge.
Its discipline you need to to go out and game. Not discipline to withhold jerking of.
I've have given up on Donald, i have tried to help him out and even wrote half a datasheet on motivation for him but he keeps making excuses.

It isn't that hard to delete stuff from your pc,throw away magazines and dvd's. If you cant stay away from online porn than pull your internet cable out of your pc/wall and do something else for a few days.

But man the fuck up and have some discipline.

Post: #122

Quote:I've have given up on Donald, i have tried to help him out and even wrote half a datasheet on motivation for him but he keeps making excuses.

It isn't that hard to delete stuff from your pc,throw away magazines and dvd's. If you cant stay away from online porn than pull your internet cable out of your pc/wall and do something else for a few days.

But man the fuck up and have some discipline.

You're tone towards me since a few posts is disappointing. Your 'motivation' post should simply be in the 'game' section as it has nothing to do with porn addiction. I am sure me and others would 5 star the thread as it's great game advice. Only at the end you started about porn by attacking guys like me who are clearly struggling with porn.

Like I said before, I DO NOT HAVE PORN STORED ANYWHERE.

Since you don't understand porn addiction: Porn addiction works the same as being addicted to cigarettes or alcohol. You experience much of the same withdrawal effects and relapsing is common. For your information, I have tried to quit over 10 times and I will not stop trying.

It's easy to tell people to 'man up' when you don't have the issue yourself.

Post: #123

I think the "addiction" label has been flung around too easily for everything today. I mean the logic used to label porn/masturbating as an addiction can be used for labeling wanting sex as an addiction as well. If you notice the people who are going to therapy for sexual addiction are celebrities who have a larger access to poon. I've always told my friends that they will know that I hit the big time if they see me going to rehab for sexual addiction.

Post: #124

That might be true, but the point is that porn is negatively influencing some people's life.

Post: #125

Donald, do you have a regular sex partner that you can call over for a lash anytime? If you do and you still sneak over to your computer to browse porn then I would say you have an addiction.

If you don't have a sex partner and you are horny then it's natural to seek porn as a stimulus to invigorate masturbation and buss a fat nutt all over your couch.

I believe that all the guys on this addiction thread don't have regular lizards, am I right or wrong?

Also, why not try watching busted porn and seeing if that enables you to kick?

For instance, watch granny porn or reptiles with lots of stretchmarks and weight issues. Either it'll turn you off porn or it will turn you onto busted lizards which will give you that Shallow Hal syndrome. In either case, it's a win win.