My logistics have always been fairly reasonable but reading and applying Tuthmosis' method REALLY amplified for me what a guy is capable of. Used it reflectively and secured the bang with a girl last night on first meeting (online)
To share my application of some parts of the theory:
Quote:Step 1. Angle your date for optimal logistics.
Of course, it goes without saying that you should have observed all of the Game 101 requirements: setting the date up at a time after standard dinner time, keeping your texts functional and minimalist, and waiting to set up the final details until the day of the date (so you have an excuse to ping the girl via text, and thereby minimize flaking).
In line with the above, I purposely waited until the day before to set up the final details, correcting a shortcoming that has led to previous flakes. But she still tried to flake. Here's the convo:
Me: "Hey name...fun times this week?"
Her: "Hello hello. Have had a ridiculous week! So exhausted, might have to be annoying and postpone drinks til Sunday or Monday. How's yours been?"
Me: "A bit worn out from the Tinder dates?

I was going to follow up by saying I have a perfect 90 minute gap to fill from 830 between a mate's dinner and a night on the town. Think you could pluck up some pep to be my charming and attractive Friday gap filler?!"
(Note: I went a bit heavy on the cheese due to the context of our earlier chats being purposely like this [and me already identifying that she seemed to be charming one]. But the main thing with this making her seem like not the focus of my night - pure indifference. Relieves pressure for her on it escalating too quickly)
Her: "Haha totally the reason. 90 minutes is a very specific amount of time, bit of a stickler for organisation are we?

Where are you thinking?" (LOL if you follow Tuthmosis' method, it completely makes me a stickler for organisation. Smart girl!)
Me: "I have it planned down to the exact minute when you buy us a second round

we can start at xxxx place in xx area"
Her: "On the assumption that you're interesting enough to warrant a second drink

OK I know xxxxx"
Me: "As long as you're entrancing enough to warrant the first I can live with that. 830 it is."
Flake averted, date set at a good time of night after dinner.
Quote:Step 2. Get a round of drinks at your first venue.
Don't fuck around with making her buy her own drink or some other principled bullshit. At the same time, don't fall into being her free-refills fountain for the night.
See texts above for the whole concept of rounds. Instilling this quickly is important with online dates I find as it can either get too platonically friendly OR she expects you treat her like a princess.
Quote:Step 3. Build some old-school comfort, using generous amounts of "neo-kino"
-Gradually invade her personal space as if she's succeeding in getting you interested. If you do it right, she will reciprocate.
-I touch her legs and arms with the back of the hand for emphasis on certain points
-I high-five her upon cool discoveries about her (in a calm, un-douchey, not-over-enthusiastic way); if she likes a band I like, for instance, I give her a high five
-A couple of times--emphasis on a couple of times--I hold eye contact for a little bit while talking, like I'm telepathically telling the bitch that, "I'm going to make out with [her] soon"
Meanwhile, during the conversation portion, I've talked up--among other things--the bar in my apartment or some "new drink" that "I've learned to make." I'm not pushing it, I just drop the seed and move on. This doesn't have to be a drink, but it's what I use. Just insert your pad into the conversation somehow, so you can have a fake "aha! moment" about it later.
My subtle neo-kino has become strong because I always hated that early 2000s overly overt stuff. This time I decided on-the-fly to weave my story-telling into the concept of touching after an anecdote about dealing with 1st graders (where there is a huge pressure on male teachers in Western countries to be inhumanely cold toward students - ie they randomly cling onto your calf because they're 5 years old and you have to kick them off instantly and nervously look around to see if any feminazis saw).
Spoke about her desires to travel to Spain, and I wondered if that's because she has a thing for Spaniard dudes? She laughed and said not really but maybe...I touched her on the arm and said, "Sorry to ruin your fantasy but despite some Mediterranean blood in me I'm not Spanish" Talked about La Tomatino (tomato fight festival) and how sexually charged the atmosphere is - with the Europeans generally being open about touch.
She said, "Europeans are definitely more handsy"
Me: "Then that must be in my bloodline as I've been told I'm handsy...in a good way"
Her: "You are (smiling)"
Barely an hour in to first laying eyes on this girl, this was the extended, "I'm gonna fuck you" eye contact from when I knew the lay was in the bag dependent on logistics and LMR. I've not overtly referenced my kino behavior before, but in an effort to be more direct in a calibrated, relaxed way, it was a killer moment and something I'll add to my arsenal depending on the situation.
To embed apartment related talk, I asked if she was the kinda girl who keeps her roomies up by excitedly playing music late, or keeps it to herself with headphones in a quiet corner. She confirmed that she didn't have roommates and then asked me what my situation was like

Haha...it was seamlessly integrated so that she didn't feel like overeager in asking about my pad. But as Tuthmosis recommended, everything I said here was quick seeds and then we moved on.
Quote:Step 4. Absolutely do not kiss her. Do not, I repeat, go for the make-out at the venue.
This is the counter-intuitive part. There will be a logical time where it seems like you should, and could, go for the escalating make-out. Ideally, this will be around the time you've finished off a slow-paced first round of drinks. If you've played your logistics correctly, you will have settled your tab (by not opening one in the first place) on the first round, so you're free to leave the venue at any point.
Here's a big difference with the way I have done things. I try to shift her to a quiet couch in the corner, some bench outside on the street near the bar, and even a city park. It'll involve my kino getting extra obvious, then makeout which often ends that way.
But this time I told her that we should keep moving (because our arses are getting flat, sitting on stools) and was heading back to mine anyway (the "hitting the town" I seeded earlier) and I have more drinks there. There was some resistance, but I hit it back by saying how much I enjoyed the 90 mins (as earlier stipulated) and that it would be remiss of me not to extend it for another hour or so.
She verbally hesitated, so I just stood up calmly, smiled and said, "Come on." as if it was a very normal thing. That's all it took.
Quote:Step 5. Keep up the energy from the first venue on the move to your place.
This is important, and where I believe most guys go wrong on the move to their place. Having had only one drink, this girl is not intoxicated and she's going to the apartment of a dude she's known for an aggregate of maybe two hours, if that. Her hamster is going to be working on overdrive and you need to strangle that little bastard before he fucks you up.
Caught a taxi to mine because it was slightly drizzling, and because it was already 10pm and I had the whole going out caveat to handle, logistically it made huge sense. She paid for half of it though. And taxi banter is a bit easier than walking banter at night I find.
Quote:Step 6. Get her comfortable and situated in your spot.
I have the same exact routine when I come into my place with a girl. It's so similar that I sometimes feel a little dirty and guilty about it. Mostly, though, I feel like I'm going to work.
We come in; I tell them it's a "shoeless house"; I wait for them to take off their boots (and wait for them to comment about how their socks don't match, which they always do); I apologize for the "mess" because I "didn't expect to have guests" (bullshit, of course); and I give them "the tour"--which is also pre-scripted. I tell them to sit down on my couch (which is also my bed) and "get comfortable." I start the same exact playlist iTunes on my big multimedia setup and go to work on the same one or two drinks I know how to make.
LOVED the shoeless house thing, contrasted with the messiness thing. She commented after the bang on the loving my playlist (slow alternative rock and acoustic), and we discovered we both have a passion for the same album! (Brand New's, The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me. Cool chick)
Quote:Step 7. Give her the drink, sit down, and go back to work.
Now you're in the home stretch, player. You're comfortable and isolated. It gets easy from here. I usually sip the drink with her and chat for another 10-12 minutes; just long enough for her to barely start to wonder if I'm actually not going to make a move. "Is this guy actually atttracted to me? Is he a pussy? He seems into me, though. What the fuck?" Then, if she hasn't set her drink down herself already, I take her drink, set it on the coffee table, and start the make out.
Here's what I noticed. Because the date was ONLY 90 minutes with no time using location change or pre-bang-location make out attempt, there's was still plenty of steam and energy in our conversation. It made it so easy to maintain that chilled 12 minutes of harmless convo that built comfort and also made her wonder what she was doing there.
Now Tuthmosis.....taking her drink away is PRICELESS!!!! Best advice in the whole thread. In other situations, I find the kiss moment a bit of an unknown quantity. Either it's a logistical problem like her head is just not facing you due to shyness, or she's not ready.
But when I took a big sip then put my drink down she could see that I was clearly up to something. When I casually and wordlessly took hers, set it down then turned back toward her it was unmistakable. Lean in and BAM. It even felt like she was someone I'd dated a long time and thought nothing of being affectionate with.
I will ALWAYS do this from now on
Quote:Step 8. Escalate like a champ.
This is where your old friend plausible deniability goes to bat for you. She only "expected" a private little make-out session--since you smartly left that token in your pocket--but if your make-out game is tight, you're a master at smoothly rounding those bases. Escalate expertly, like the goddamn RVF champ that you are. Because my couch doubles as a bed, I lay them out and go to town. I deflect LMR by periodically coming back up for "a sip of our drinks," before going back to work and advancing the ball upfield each time.
Did the return to drinks thing which she loved, and escalated smoothly. There was no need for the D move with this girl as over the course of the last couple of hours she had gotten pretty excited for me.
Quote:Step 9. Bang.
I don't need to remind you to make sure you put it down respectably, at least. Even if you're not a sex god, make it memorable.
I fucked her right by going down on her first (which I love), used a bit of roughplay (neck holding she LOVED) and made her come twice. It's just about pacing yourself. If you're going to put 2 hours into date stuff, you should put at least two into foreplay/oral/sex/after sex touching. I don't get guys who just go hell for leather like a race, but they make it better for the rest of us.
Quote:Step 10. Damage Control.
If you're like me, you prefer to bang prospects a few times (rather than once). Call me a romantic. If that's also your goal, you want to be prepared to do a little bit of damage control on the rapid bang. (Keep in mind that you will have banged this girl with three or four hours.) That doesn't mean you have to assuage every weird little emotion she may be going through, it just means you have to go back to being your cool, charming self for a while. It should be seamless.
I probably could have done this better, but I was generally charming and shared things about myself and asked about her. Turns out she barely uses Tinder because most guys bore her and she feels nothing for them. She's very selective she told me. Makes it all the sweeter.
Due to the speediness of it all I'm hoping she'll show up again for more casual fun. Great body and enthusiasm.
100% of thanks goes to Tuthmosis for tidying up the loose ends of my on-date game! Hope some of you can learn something from my annotated application of the method.