Post: #276

Quote:Then, if she hasn't set her drink down herself already, I take her drink, set it on the coffee table, and start the make out.

This is solid - and also classic, right out of Ross Jeffries original book about 20 years ago. Not saying that tut isn't being original, just that great minds think alike.

Also very true about logistics being a wildly underappreciated aspect of game.

Post: #277

+1 to Mr. Tuthomosis

I followed this plan to a tee, with my own adjustments of course, and I secured the bang. Bang. Bang.

It was a day time date, 10 minutes away from my house, and we had frozen yogurt. I stuck to the script and built that comfort brick by brick, then lathered her nice and good with generous amounts of neo kino (ha!). At this point she was practically begging for me to kiss her, being that we were near an isolated section of the waterfront. It would've been too easy but I resisted and kept the sexual tension bubble alive.

Finally I recalled the bait I dropped earlier about going to my house so I can record some music. Gave her a time constraint, saying it would only take 30 mins, and she complied. We're at my house now, I record my mix. She's drinking red wine and grooving to the music, looking me in my eyes, and that's when I knew I had her. From there I got the first kiss and boy did she ravish me, it was like she was waiting for that moment ever since we were on the waterfront with the frozen yogurt. All I had to do now was keep pushing the ball up field. Stopping, starting, building comfort. Finally my roommate leaves and I bring her downstairs from the roof and bang bang bang. I'm still sore today as I type this.

At the end of it all, we had this exchange:

Me: Wow I didn't expect that to happen
Her: You liar! you knew what you were doing this whole time
Me: *Smiles and playfully denies it*

So I suppose she knew she was coming here to get fucked and was cool with that. Either way it doesn't matter. I do believe that by holding out on the make out, I allowed myself to ramp up to sex because of all the other variables that played in my favor. I do also believe that if I did not follow this guide it probably would've not resulted in a bang. Thanks for you wisdom kind sir. I will continue to follow this plan and hone in on the nuances of it. Great stuff!

Post: #278

I have been having good luck with a play out of the Moscow play book - that is if she asks to take a shower you are about to feel her vagina power.

So as soon as we get to my pad I give them a couple towels and a clean bar of soap and say why don't you go freshen up while I mix some cocktails - by the time she is out of the shower 15 min to a half hour with her body and hair wrapped in 2 towels it is cocktail half hour and then after she has a couple real cosmos - my recipe 1 oz Cranberry juice 1 oz lime juice one oz triple sec and TWO ozs Sky or similar mixing vodka - no need to waste grey goose on sugary Cosmos about six ounces of alcohol I put the glasses in the sink and have music videos on for her to look at while I initiate - by then there is never any LMR from 18 to 48 sexy, sane or crazy ;-)

Oh yeah I normally just have a dry diet Orange or Diet Coke on the rocks with a 5mg Cialis and 100mg Viagra chaser as soon as she hits the shower - about one half hour later it is batters up most of the night and the next morning - Viagra is the booster and Cialis the prolonger - got to love modern medical science.

Post: #279

(07-24-2015 02:02 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  I have been having good luck with a play out of the Moscow play book - that is if she asks to take a shower you are about to feel her vagina power.

So as soon as we get to my pad I give them a couple towels and a clean bar of soap and say why don't you go freshen up while I mix some cocktails - by the time she is out of the shower 15 min to a half hour with her body and hair wrapped in 2 towels it is cocktail half hour and then after she has a couple real cosmos - my recipe 1 oz Cranberry juice 1 oz lime juice one oz triple sec and TWO ozs Sky or similar mixing vodka - no need to waste grey goose on sugary Cosmos about six ounces of alcohol I put the glasses in the sink and have music videos on for her to look at while I initiate - by then there is never any LMR from 18 to 48 sexy, sane or crazy ;-)

Oh yeah I normally just have a dry diet Orange or Diet Coke on the rocks with a 5mg Cialis and 100mg Viagra chaser as soon as she hits the shower - about one half hour later it is batters up most of the night and the next morning - Viagra is the booster and Cialis the prolonger - got to love modern medical science.

Is this all happening on the first date before you've banged her? Almost every woman I've banged on the first date has been at least slightly apprehensive and nervous about coming back to my place on the first date. Tuth even mentions this in his original writeup. I can't imagine a woman coming over the first time and immediately hopping in the shower and then sitting with me wearing only a towel...

Post: #280

(07-24-2015 11:20 AM)JonJon Wrote:  So I suppose she knew she was coming here to get fucked and was cool with that. Either way it doesn't matter. I do believe that by holding out on the make out, I allowed myself to ramp up to sex because of all the other variables that played in my favor. I do also believe that if I did not follow this guide it probably would've not resulted in a bang. Thanks for you wisdom kind sir. I will continue to follow this plan and hone in on the nuances of it. Great stuff!

Great writeup! It always warms my heart when I see new forum members helping themselves and applying all of the great information readily available here and getting results. You executed this perfectly and many times it really is this easy if you do your homework and are prepared. Carry on!

Post: #281

(07-24-2015 04:25 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

(07-24-2015 02:02 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  I have been having good luck with a play out of the Moscow play book - that is if she asks to take a shower you are about to feel her vagina power.

So as soon as we get to my pad I give them a couple towels and a clean bar of soap and say why don't you go freshen up while I mix some cocktails - by the time she is out of the shower 15 min to a half hour with her body and hair wrapped in 2 towels it is cocktail half hour and then after she has a couple real cosmos - my recipe 1 oz Cranberry juice 1 oz lime juice one oz triple sec and TWO ozs Sky or similar mixing vodka - no need to waste grey goose on sugary Cosmos about six ounces of alcohol I put the glasses in the sink and have music videos on for her to look at while I initiate - by then there is never any LMR from 18 to 48 sexy, sane or crazy ;-)

Oh yeah I normally just have a dry diet Orange or Diet Coke on the rocks with a 5mg Cialis and 100mg Viagra chaser as soon as she hits the shower - about one half hour later it is batters up most of the night and the next morning - Viagra is the booster and Cialis the prolonger - got to love modern medical science.

Is this all happening on the first date before you've banged her? Almost every woman I've banged on the first date has been at least slightly apprehensive and nervous about coming back to my place on the first date. Tuth even mentions this in his original writeup. I can't imagine a woman coming over the first time and immediately hopping in the shower and then sitting with me wearing only a towel...

I heavily sexualize the kino and body contact, body chat - I analyze their faces and bodies for golden ratio aspects with a lot of touching and use the assumed close method - I am a man you are an attractive healthy woman of course we both want sex and my method above simply confirms her natural healthy sexual state and transitions accordingly at my pad or hotel room. This is why sexualizing early and often serves as a form of pre-screening - if they are not buying what you have on offer time to implement abundance mentality and keep screening for new rotation. Try it - saves a lot of wasted time, money and angst - the hottest most beautiful woman in the world is not of any use if she does not comply with your healthy and direct sexualization of the relationship. Natural healthy men and women were put on this earth to procreate - practice makes perfect - if she refuses to accommodate your natural healthy inclinations - she is not a normal healthy woman and it is "next" time baby.

Basically once she agrees to come to your place sex must clearly be the natural result - otherwise why bother to bring her to your inner sanctum when there are plenty of other women on this planet that will happily enjoy being with you in the biblical carnal sense.

After drinks if it is the first time I will sometimes give them a condom and say you put it on or you do the honors and hit the matresses - the fact that a woman over the age of majority willingly puts a condom on you and inserts it into her vagina it is de-facto mutual consent as it clearly shows intent to engage in consensual sex.

Any LMR at that point and she is just being a cock tease.

I have had women play around and want to unbuckle my belt for a bj on the sofa but no bang at my place in the past - FUCK THAT SHIT - by giving them a couple towels, bar of dick hair free soap and a robe and telling them to freshen up is another transition confirmation for sex as most women understand this is when to wash the days perspiration and any other funk off themselves to ready them selves for clean fresh sex with you.

I can honestly say I have never had a woman come out of the shower and not want to fuck then and there.

Oh yeah a shower massage on a hose set to pulse mode can get their twats hot in a hurry as well. Much of the demand for those units is for women to pleasure themselves in the home shower... Google it.

Post: #282

^How often do they simply refuse to take a shower?

Post: #283

Yea. This sounds great,but seems like a really awkward moment when she laughs and says no.

Post: #284

(07-27-2015 01:18 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  Yea. This sounds great,but seems like a really awkward moment when she laughs and says no.

No? Well, I'll just go take one then. Thanks.

Post: #285

I second Samseau's thought. What was/is actually new about this recipe, no kissing in the venue part?

Serious question

Post: #286

(07-24-2015 06:21 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  I heavily sexualize the kino and body contact, body chat - I analyze their faces and bodies for golden ratio aspects with a lot of touching and use the assumed close method - I am a man you are an attractive healthy woman of course we both want sex and my method above simply confirms her natural healthy sexual state and transitions accordingly at my pad or hotel room. This is why sexualizing early and often serves as a form of pre-screening - if they are not buying what you have on offer time to implement abundance mentality and keep screening for new rotation. Try it - saves a lot of wasted time, money and angst - the hottest most beautiful woman in the world is not of any use if she does not comply with your healthy and direct sexualization of the relationship. Natural healthy men and women were put on this earth to procreate - practice makes perfect - if she refuses to accommodate your natural healthy inclinations - she is not a normal healthy woman and it is "next" time baby.

Basically once she agrees to come to your place sex must clearly be the natural result - otherwise why bother to bring her to your inner sanctum when there are plenty of other women on this planet that will happily enjoy being with you in the biblical carnal sense.

After drinks if it is the first time I will sometimes give them a condom and say you put it on or you do the honors and hit the matresses - the fact that a woman over the age of majority willingly puts a condom on you and inserts it into her vagina it is de-facto mutual consent as it clearly shows intent to engage in consensual sex.

Obviously you are on a different level then the majority of us so can you give some more background on the setup prior to even getting to your place?

How did you initially meet the girl?
Where did you go prior to getting her back to your place?
How are you doing the extract back to your place..ect?


The entire setup just sounds fantastical, like something out of a Pierre Woodman casting porn. My game sucks compared to this. Teach me master

Post: #287

+1

Used this method and got the bang with a fine 8, almost a 9. Thanks for the post sir. Credit given.

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Post: #288

I just got back from a date and used this formula. Well some of it at least. Holding out on the kissing until we got back to my place. And waiting a few minutes there to make the first move as well. I could tell she was getting confused as to why we hadn't kissed yet. +1 rep for you my friend, thank you!

Post: #289

I think I read this in 2015 and made some personal tweeks to it and the only times its backfired is when I got complacent because of its affectiveness and got lazy conversationally. This shit also worked flawlessly with dating apps (tinder, bumble; hinge).

Instead of going out to venues I invite them over for dinner and have them bring wine. It doesn't have to be complex at all: I'll chef up chicken tacos, chicken quesadillas, or a sppeggetti dish as they all take about 30-45 minutes to cook.

I slice and season the chicken while spitting the lords good word and then I have them cook the chicken in a frying pan while I get the other shit ready. After she's participated enough I have her set the table, get the guac or whatever toppings/sides we'll be having and get the drinks set up.
By the time thats done I usually have the meal ready we eat and drink; then straight to netflix and chill-land and seal the deal.

**I once had a girl bring cards over and she taught me a game after dinner while we finished off the wine. I'm super competitive so her victories in the beginning probably held some weight in the seduction process before I proceed to annihilate her. I think when setting up the dinner plan finding out low key if she's got something fun and competitive to teach you may be a good move--her card game had the chemistry flowing.

Post: #290

(11-07-2016 01:45 AM)Mufasa Wrote:  I'll chef up chicken tacos, chicken quesadillas, or a sppeggetti dish as they all take about 30-45 minutes to cook.

Good idea, I'm going to the grocery store now for the quesadilla ingredients. We can save some money and have a nice meal at the same time. I just did this the other day and the girl said "hmm I like men who can cook" - insert evil smile -

Now gentlemen, I have a question about the kino since it might be little different... When going to your house, do you offer the arm, or grab the hand, or touch her back when walking? This is what we do in the regular way, but since we are making her think that we are still too shy, is it better not to touch her but stay close?

Post: #291

(11-08-2016 11:15 AM)crispytaco Wrote:  Good idea, I'm going to the grocery store now for the quesadilla ingredients. We can save some money and have a nice meal at the same time. I just did this the other day and the girl said "hmm I like men who can cook" - insert evil smile -

Now gentlemen, I have a question about the kino since it might be little different... When going to your house, do you offer the arm, or grab the hand, or touch her back when walking? This is what we do in the regular way, but since we are making her think that we are still too shy, is it better not to touch her but stay close?

Offer the arm. I once was joking with a girl that the purpose of the arm is so if she trips I'll catch her. Sureley enough she trips, caught her weight almost immediately--Swoon.

Post: #292

I met this girl through social circle. She is 9 / 10 venezuelan girl, darn.... I banged another girl in the morning, but this was a different level. She has Tinder just for fun, seeking attention and always get 100% matches. So I sat next to her having a nice conversation but in my mind thinking like UFC fighter studying the opponent. Darn, no openings, she was very alpha, taller and half of my age.

Her body language, sight, the topics of the conversation, still no openings. I start a pseudo kino and there was this invisible barrier. So at that moment I used my body language like if I don't care what she looks like while still having a nice conversation. Nothing happened.

I was not making plans with this girl because I had other prospects not as good but with better possibilities.

Finally, 2 days today she texted "what are you doing"? Bingo... I recalled this thread. She was close, so I told her to meet for a coffee. Right there nothing. Told her that we could cook her favorite dish, so went to my apt, and remembered this stuff. Still no real kino. I start cooking and she avoided to be close to me, then I sat next to her and she leaned back a little.I started going back and forth like if I don't care. Finally when I came back from the kitchen, I stand in front of her while she was sitting speaking. After a minute, she said "hey come sit here" and... green light, time to start the game. She didn't know what happened, but minutes later we were making out. Then everyting was more relaxed, I knew she had to leave in 5 min. So I started making out more, with touching, etc. Then she stopped as I expected, ready to leave. Then she asked me to have another session next friday and she is suppose to give me some kind of dessert. I told her ok but only if the dessert is good.

So I didn't get the lay, but it was more interesting and I enjoyed more than the last real bang I had. So what I am saying is that this process, even if at the end there are no indoor olympics, it still can help you when the force is strong in the opposite side.

Post: #293

She came over and we baked a cake. then we went in my room baked a cake and she came over

Post: #294

I gotta give much respect for Tuthmosis. I followed your steps and you get 1st date bangs. Thanks.

Post: #295

I tried. I did this. The date went fine. I paid for one round. Got wine back at my place. Made out - tried to escalate, did not escalate properly? Got no bang! I Got her back to the place but couldn't go for the bang.

WHERE DID I GO WRONG.

Post: #296

Regardless, I'm satisfied by how cheap of a strategy this is. Will be utilizing more.

Post: #297

(01-26-2017 11:28 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  I tried. I did this. The date went fine. I paid for one round. Got wine back at my place. Made out - tried to escalate, did not escalate properly? Got no bang! I Got her back to the place but couldn't go for the bang.

WHERE DID I GO WRONG.

I recall a WIA post about making a 'pitstop' (convenience store for example) in-between the bar venue and home base. The reasoning is that it continues to built comfort, acts as a venue change, and it validates her trust with this new guy to know nothing terrible happened so let's continue to see what's behind the next door.

Of course, that next door is homebase.

Post: #298

I agree. You'd be surprised how much comfort little things like stopping at a store and making her run in to buy the beer/wine etc will build.

Post: #299

You can also do a "venue change" at your apartment. Living room, kitchen, dining room, patio, etc.

Post: #300

In hindsight, I see where I messed up - when trying to escalate I did not "back off" and "back in."

To another attempt.