Post: #1

So I have a dilemma..

I'm going to Bangkok in December and I was thinking of bringing a girl from the US with me who wants to come along..here are the Pros..
Guaranteed Vagina without getting a Pro or fear of STD's (I think she's a virgin). Companionship for the week she's there. She's dependent on me because I'm the one with more money, which equals power.

But there are some definite cons.. Possibly paying for her Airline ticket and her slowing me down..might get tired of her, etc. I'm staying for 2 weeks while she's only staying for a week and flying home for school while I fly back to Afghanistan a week later.

So I need advice..should I bring her along and be somewhat beta for buying her ticket or reject her and remain alpha

Post: #2

I brought a girl with me (from north america), but she was half-thai, lived there before and spoke the language so I 'hired' her as my tour guide

If your only going for a week and she doesn't speak thai, then don't bother, she'll slow you down and travel stress brings out the worse in people. Wear a condom, enjoy thailand and don't concentrate too much on getting laid on the detriment for the rest of your trip. If you like scuba diving, I would definitely focus on that.

Post: #3

Did you already bang her? I wouldn't in any case.

Post: #4

Why are you shelling out all this money on a woman you haven't even banged? That's the question I'd be asking myself. Buying her a plane ticket before banging her is in my mind a guarantee she'll place you as a provider and make you jump through further hoops before she will give it up, if at all.

Post: #5

Does it have to be Bangkok?

If I was going to Thailand with a chick I'd want to go to the islands.

That's assuming she was my girlfriend, I'm not really sure what your situation is. I wouldn't pay for a girl's ticket if I wasn't with her exclusively.

Post: #6

OMG, no. Do not bring her with you. The pros you listed are in your head only.

a) if she's a virgin, why do you think the vag is guaranteed?
b) you really don't need any companionship in Bangkok. The city is interesting enough to do things alone without getting lonely. If you want company, go to where all the travelers hang out and you'll make new friends in about 5 minutes.
c) her dependent on you? That dependence is only as strong as you're willing to be a complete dickhead. I mean, unless she thinks that not spreading for you means she'll be out on her ass in a SEA city, the dependence won't mean much. The very fact that you would pay for her to go all the way to Thailand without having banged her will let her know that she is the one with all the power.

The cons far outweigh the pros here.

Post: #7

No, haven't banged her and she only speaks english.I have a feeling she'll put out but at the expense of my bank account and time. Rejecting her feels morally wrong but its the smarter financial move. I intended to stay in BKK for the two weeks and not venture off to any Islands..

Post: #8

(11-24-2011 02:54 AM)Smoker Wrote:  OMG, no. Do not bring her with you. The pros you listed are in your head only.

a) if she's a virgin, why do you think the vag is guaranteed?
b) you really don't need any companionship in Bangkok. The city is interesting enough to do things alone without getting lonely. If you want company, go to where all the travelers hang out and you'll make new friends in about 5 minutes.
c) her dependent on you? That dependence is only as strong as you're willing to be a complete dickhead. I mean, unless she thinks that not spreading for you means she'll be out on her ass in a SEA city, the dependence won't mean much. The very fact that you would pay for her to go all the way to Thailand without having banged her will let her know that she is the one with all the power.

The cons far outweigh the pros here.

I agree with you..problem is Idk how to politely reject her or have to lie and say I'm not going. I think she's been waiting for the right opportunity to get banged, which I believe I was providing.

Post: #9

First of all, asking yourself iif you should remain an alpha or act beta as you have asked on here is totally stupid. You do whatever feels good for you.

In your case, i wouldnt pay the ticket for this girl. Why would you pay a ticket to a girl who claims to be a virgin? If she lives right next to you, you could bang her before you even fly with her, if she is not releasing the pussy now, she wont release the pussy abroad.

Forget her, go there alone and move to girls when you get there. Just dont be scaried of rejection.

Post: #10

(11-24-2011 03:06 AM)Patrick Bateman Wrote:  I agree with you..problem is Idk how to politely reject her or have to lie and say I'm not going.

Most chicks wouldn't have a problem rejecting you if something better came along.

It doesn't sound like you are in a relationship with her. Just tell her that is too much money to spend on a friend.

Post: #11

ok.,..if u really really really like her then go to ko samui, ko phanyang, ko samet etc...u will have a great time togetherr..beaches, etc etc

otherwise taking a girl to thailand is a school boy error

Post: #12

This has turned into an agony aunt column and is quite possibly the saddest thread I think I have ever read. Plane tickets = money power, std concerns, virgins, companionship, a fear of hookers and a fear of the loss of self confirmed alpha status.

I chuckled.

Taking a chick to Thailand is like taking a pizza to an all you can eat buffet.

Taking a virginal chick to thailand is like taking a frozen pizza to an all you can eat buffet suffering a power failure.

Post: #13

(11-24-2011 03:06 AM)Patrick Bateman Wrote:  I have a feeling she'll put out but at the expense of my bank account and time.

It sounds like you contemplating this because she's a virgin. I can't say it sounds worth it.

Quote:I agree with you..problem is Idk how to politely reject her or have to lie and say I'm not going. I think she's been waiting for the right opportunity to get banged, which I believe I was providing.

Why would you have to lie? You're entitled to say you want to go to BKK alone.

Post: #14

(11-24-2011 03:58 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  This has turned into an agony aunt column and is quite possibly the saddest thread I think I have ever read. Plane tickets = money power, std concerns, virgins, companionship, a fear of hookers and a fear of the loss of self confirmed alpha status.

I chuckled.

Taking a chick to Thailand is like taking a pizza to an all you can eat buffet.

Taking a virginal chick to thailand is like taking a frozen pizza to an all you can eat buffet suffering a power failure.

I never said I was afraid of hookers..I said I feared STD's that many hookers carry(Granted I actually bow down and sleep with any). So look..I don't need the smart ass comments, they add no value to this thread. I just need friendly advice on what you would do in a similar scenario.

Post: #15

(11-24-2011 04:16 AM)Patrick Bateman Wrote:  I never said I was afraid of hookers..I said I feared STD's that many hookers carry(Granted I actually bow down and sleep with any). So look..I don't need the smart ass comments, they add no value to this thread. I just need friendly advice on what you would do in a similar scenario.

No you need a good shake, not a pat on the back and some "friendly" pointers. Harry and others are telling it true. If you are serious wondering if it's morally wrong to NOT pay a girl's (I assume she's not even your girlfriend) plane ticket to the other side of the world then immediately change your username from Patrick Bateman to 'Mr. Cuddles'.

Post: #16

Look man, she is playing you. That simple. If she is into you enough to bang you, she'd have done so by now. If not, then wtf is she asking you to bring her to BKK for? No surprise though. Lots of women will take as much as you allow them to - then laugh with their friends about it later that you were so gullible. I wouldn't be surprised if you got to BKK and then she tells you on the first night there that you're "such a good friiiiiiiiiiiend!" My point is, if she's not acting like a girlfriend, then you shouldn't doing bf things with the only exception of banging.

I don't understand what the problem is. Did you promise her you'd bring her or something and now you feel guilty about not following through? Or did you say you were going and she asked you to bring her with you? You gave no details about how all of this actually transpired so it's hard to give detailed advice.

All I know is, if a chick that I'm not banging was so presumptuous to think that I'm a big enough chump that I'd be willing to pay her way to BKK (even if I am banging her), I'd laugh in her face. I certainly wouldn't feel guilty or a compunction to lie about my plans to go alone.

Suggestion: Get another date with her before you go. Try to bang her. See what she says. If she bangs and you want her in BKK with you, invite her along but do not pay her way. If she doesn't bang, then you know it's a ruse to get you to pay for her trip.

Post: #17

I wouldn't take her just for the fact that if she started acting up or wasn't a fun person to travel with it would be a pain in the balls. Hooligan Harry and Vicious are speaking the truth and I suggest you take their advice even if you don't like the way it's being said. But at the end of the day it's your decision and I think the wise decision would be to go solo and live it up.

Post: #18

Ok ok..understood, I see what you guys mean. She's over in the States while im in Afghanistan so I couldn't try to bang her first haha. I should've never mentioned to her that I was going to BKK but alas, now to get rid of her..

Post: #19

Bringing a chick to South East Asia is like bringing a sandwich to an all-you-eat-buffet. - And it's steak night.

Post: #20

Never buy a plane ticket for a chick you haven't banged, especially if she's a virgin. I did this once with a chick, bringing her to Vegas, and it was fucking horrible.

Post: #21

(11-24-2011 07:57 AM)Patrick Bateman Wrote:  Ok ok..understood, I see what you guys mean. She's over in the States while im in Afghanistan so I couldn't try to bang her first haha. I should've never mentioned to her that I was going to BKK but alas, now to get rid of her..

Are you in the military or contracting? If the latter the ticket shouldn't ding your bank roll to bad. If in uniform I wouldn't even consider dropping that dosh on a maybe. I'm in Afghan right now so we may well be at the same spot. Feel free to PM your station.

Now for the dirty Ali-B spin:

Using logic I would assume being a virgin she is probably timid and probably hasn't traveled outside the U.S., and sounds young by the need to return to classes. Just traveling that far, let alone Thailand, will be shock and awe to her. Now she's off kilter.

Take her to BKK, and share a room. Stock up with Mekhong and Singha. Get her loose while getting ready for the night and look for signs. Go to dinner even. If she's not willing to fuck you then, run her right down Soi Cowboy. She'll see instantly her pussy value just hit the fucking floor. Zero, zilch, nada. Drag her right into a go-go bar and start flirting with the whores. If she even gives you one fucking iota of grief remind her of the months of dick-beating you've had to endure in Afghan.

Obviously she'll be pissed, and want to leave, but where will she go? I bet the Queen's thongs she won't have the intestinal fortitude to take a tuk-tuk back to the hotel alone. Now she's stuck, with the new found realization that her pussy is useless in the land of 1 real smile.

This will force her hand, and the only thing between you and the whores is her ass. She'll give it up gladly. With fervor. Or be bi-curious and you'll have a mega night. Either way you win.

Worse case she goes back to the hotel. Fine. Give it a few hours and enjoy the debauchery. Buy a hooker and bring back to the room, and fuck her in the same bed as your girl. Just take a sharpie and black out the international call instructions on the room phone, so she can't fall back on calling home.

This is what I'd do, if I flew a girl to Thailand. That or get her hooked on opium and pimp her ass for two weeks to comp your trip.

Just another spin on things guys, don't be a hatin'.

Post: #22

You're asking a forum of international players if you should take a virgin girl you haven't fucked to white man pussy paradise while also paying her way.

Post: #23

(11-24-2011 03:06 AM)Patrick Bateman Wrote:  I agree with you..problem is Idk how to politely reject her or have to lie and say I'm not going.

Just do it the way women do it-- they are the masters of the long con.

1) Insert the lie about feelings:
" I was really looking forward to going with you there so we could [ bullshit agenda you suposedly had in your mind]"

2) Avoid personal responsibility by saying it's outside circumstances:
" But the stock market drop's really killed my holdings."

3) Further lie about a re-schedule ( vague so another bail-out is not required) with the very effective responsibility dump so you actually never have to do another thing:
"So call/text/email about when you'll be available to go [later]" and we SHOULD definitely do it. ( You never will, but you "should"

There you go: just like a chick, misleading, irresponsible and wasting your time with false hope.

The best part is you told her to call you so you find out if your snow job worked ( she'll call). Ignore her calls.
In any even, you haven't promised to DO anything else so you can now ethically totally ignore her and game other chicks like you should've realized to begin with.

It's not pretty but they've been doing it for millenia. Also what evidence is there she's a virgin? Does anyone believe this stuff if they're not
in Iran or Saudi Arabia?

More like "Virgin except for the thirty blow jobs in highschool and all the drunk anal sex I could get at work.

Post: #24

(11-24-2011 03:58 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  This has turned into an agony aunt column and is quite possibly the saddest thread I think I have ever read. Plane tickets = money power, std concerns, virgins, companionship, a fear of hookers and a fear of the loss of self confirmed alpha status.

I chuckled.

Taking a chick to Thailand is like taking a pizza to an all you can eat buffet.

Taking a virginal chick to thailand is like taking a frozen pizza to an all you can eat buffet suffering a power failure.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Taking a girl to Thailand is a horrible idea. You could be knee deep in asian pussy or you could be stuck with an American chick, who's taking advantage of you and stopping you enjoying all the delights Bangkok has to offer.

It's one of the worst ideas I've heard in a long, long time. Be a man and go solo, report back that you spent the whole week on yaba, drinking buckets and fucking bar girls or don't bother going at all.

Post: #25

It seems to me like you have that whole "vacation sex" scenario in your head, where being in new, exciting surroundings brings out something in a chick, and gets them to do things they ordinarily wouldn't. That scenario plays itself out more with couples that have been together for a long time, and have gone stale. For a chick you hardly see, that is a virgin, the vacation thing could be more disorienting than comfortable. There's the premise that you should fuck as much as possible, at least early on, at a chick's crib because it's a comfortable, familiar place. She doesn't have to do the whole "walk of shame" thing in the morning. It's her things in the bathroom. But a virgin giving it up for the first time in some dank room halfway around the world, in the land of cheap whores doesn't seem likely. Since you're not in the position to try to bang in her crib anytime soon, I think it's a lot to come out of pocket on a big maybe. Go enjoy yourself. It sounds like you really need this trip to blow off steam, not to deal with some young girl virgin drama. Bring a healthy supply of condoms, and maybe pick up a bottle of strong booze to pour on your dick after you fuck to disinfect it, but go and do your thing alone. Find a way to spend time with her in the future and try to safecrack that cherry.