Post: #626

(07-08-2015 03:49 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  I'm not the internet dating expert, but can't you just screen the girls before you meet them, specifically the ones who don't work, don't go to school, or don't write Spanish fluently (I know the last one is a bit of a stretch) in order to avoid the ones who will likely ask you for money? Does it do any good to report the girls who ask for money to the people who run the various sites like Dominican Cupid?

I've also run into girls who ask for money while doing daygame. I've never really done day game in the Dominican Republic, so I'm nor sure about that.

Guys seem overly worried about DR girls asking for money.

It's not difficult to deflect her requests and keep banging her (if that's what you want)

This is what I always tell them:

Post: #627

Quote:They're broke and have no reliable income. A main reason why they went to the DR vs other bangfest countries such as in SEA is because of significantly cheaper flight costs.

There's currently a big sale on Delta/Jet Blue for travel now through November. $99 each way between JFK and SDQ/STI, taxes included.

These sales typically don't last more than a few days so even if you're planning on going several months from now it's probably best to jump at the deal now.

Post: #628

(07-08-2015 04:46 PM)BallsDeep Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 04:05 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  Can you expand on this a little bit? If a guy looks better and dresses better does that increase or decrease the chances that they will be hit up for money? Also, great handle. I put you in second place behind HungWeiLo for best handle on the forum.

I'd be very surprised if it's a problem for you.

The DR attracts a lot of guys (many with less than 10 posts) who seem to have been misguided by the Fisto et al threads of banging a hundred girls in sixty days, while not taking into account that those guys have no trouble banging chicks anywhere in the world.

I've met or whatsapp'd around ten or so guys who perpetually get hit up for money, and they ALL share the following traits:

They complained to no end about the difficulty of pulling chicks in their home country, and came to the DR because it's easier.

They're broke and have no reliable income. A main reason why they went to the DR vs other bangfest countries such as in SEA is because of significantly cheaper flight costs.

They're in their twenties.

They dress like shit. Out of the ten guys I have in mind, I have never seen one bring a suit or blazer. Maybe I've seen one with a collared shirt, but the rest have all worn t-shirts. And I'm referring to the kind of t-shirts you would only wear on laundry day.

And as I said, the majority of the guys I'm referring to have only a handful of posts, so I don't want it to sound like people should guess who I'm referring to, because you've probably never heard of them. I've also shared some of my most memorable times in the DR with guys I met through the forum who have their shit together. I'm just trying to outline how a DR trip can be a very different experience for very different people. And the online cupid chicks can sniff who is who from a mile away.

I'm surprised "lack of Spanish speaking skills" is not one of them..

Post: #629

(07-13-2015 01:48 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 04:46 PM)BallsDeep Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 04:05 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  Can you expand on this a little bit? If a guy looks better and dresses better does that increase or decrease the chances that they will be hit up for money? Also, great handle. I put you in second place behind HungWeiLo for best handle on the forum.

I'd be very surprised if it's a problem for you.

The DR attracts a lot of guys (many with less than 10 posts) who seem to have been misguided by the Fisto et al threads of banging a hundred girls in sixty days, while not taking into account that those guys have no trouble banging chicks anywhere in the world.

I've met or whatsapp'd around ten or so guys who perpetually get hit up for money, and they ALL share the following traits:

They complained to no end about the difficulty of pulling chicks in their home country, and came to the DR because it's easier.

They're broke and have no reliable income. A main reason why they went to the DR vs other bangfest countries such as in SEA is because of significantly cheaper flight costs.

They're in their twenties.

They dress like shit. Out of the ten guys I have in mind, I have never seen one bring a suit or blazer. Maybe I've seen one with a collared shirt, but the rest have all worn t-shirts. And I'm referring to the kind of t-shirts you would only wear on laundry day.

And as I said, the majority of the guys I'm referring to have only a handful of posts, so I don't want it to sound like people should guess who I'm referring to, because you've probably never heard of them. I've also shared some of my most memorable times in the DR with guys I met through the forum who have their shit together. I'm just trying to outline how a DR trip can be a very different experience for very different people. And the online cupid chicks can sniff who is who from a mile away.

I'm surprised "lack of Spanish speaking skills" is not one of them..

I think that the facts that they are in their twenties and they found the forum mean that there is definitely some hope for them. A while back, Samseau put the guys who he met at the 2012 D.C. meetup into three categories and I think those categories apply to forum members in general. There are guys who are naturals, guys in their thirties and forties who have had some or quite a bit of success, professionally, and who want to improve themselves and/or get better with girls, and younger guys who haven't really had much success professionally or with girls who need some guidance. I'm kind of a mixture between the first two categories. In some ways, I'm definitely a natural, but in other ways, I'm the farthest thing from it.

Post: #630

(07-13-2015 01:48 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 04:46 PM)BallsDeep Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 04:05 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  Can you expand on this a little bit? If a guy looks better and dresses better does that increase or decrease the chances that they will be hit up for money? Also, great handle. I put you in second place behind HungWeiLo for best handle on the forum.

I'd be very surprised if it's a problem for you.

The DR attracts a lot of guys (many with less than 10 posts) who seem to have been misguided by the Fisto et al threads of banging a hundred girls in sixty days, while not taking into account that those guys have no trouble banging chicks anywhere in the world.

I've met or whatsapp'd around ten or so guys who perpetually get hit up for money, and they ALL share the following traits:

They complained to no end about the difficulty of pulling chicks in their home country, and came to the DR because it's easier.

They're broke and have no reliable income. A main reason why they went to the DR vs other bangfest countries such as in SEA is because of significantly cheaper flight costs.

They're in their twenties.

They dress like shit. Out of the ten guys I have in mind, I have never seen one bring a suit or blazer. Maybe I've seen one with a collared shirt, but the rest have all worn t-shirts. And I'm referring to the kind of t-shirts you would only wear on laundry day.

And as I said, the majority of the guys I'm referring to have only a handful of posts, so I don't want it to sound like people should guess who I'm referring to, because you've probably never heard of them. I've also shared some of my most memorable times in the DR with guys I met through the forum who have their shit together. I'm just trying to outline how a DR trip can be a very different experience for very different people. And the online cupid chicks can sniff who is who from a mile away.

I'm surprised "lack of Spanish speaking skills" is not one of them..

You'd be surprised how little Spanish is needed to spread legs in the DR. I'm not denying it can help quite a lot, but it's not a necessity.

Post: #631

BallsDeep, still to this day one of the most fun nights I ever had. Thanks for showing me around Santiago, you made my trip!

Post: #632

Hey guys,

I will be in the Dominican Republic for three months from the start of November.

About me: 6'2", blonde Aussie guy, in good shape, 19 years old, speak Spanish fluently since I just got back from Medellin where I lived for 6 months. Need a little advice.

If guys who have actually been there could respond I'd appreciate it heaps!

1) I'm trying to decide between Santo Domingo and Santiago. What are the pros and cons of either considering I'm in one place for 3 months?
2) Besides online, what is the best way of meeting chicks in DR in your experience?
3) An important question here: in either SD or Santiago, which parts of each city do you recommend staying in and why? Will be looking for short term rental online, that's why I'm asking.
4) Any other need to know things?

Thanks so much!

Also, if anyone cool wants to hit me up while I'm there (early-Nov to late-Jan), shoot me a pm. I'd love to hang out.

Post: #633

hey El Rey or to others,

I'm living in Santiago, and have lived in Santo domingo before. I have been here for 3 months and will be here for 3 more. PM me and we can talk more. El Rey, you sound like a prime candidate for Santiago. You have a lot of positives going for you, already accustomed to difficult game like in Medellin, blond hair, good shape, fluent Spanish..all necessary for Santiago.

Most guys can't pull chicks in Santiago, that's why you don't here much about it. I've banged over 30 girls here so far so I speak from experience. The girls here are far hotter IMHO than in Santo Domingo, not Medellin hot, (I've spent considerable time in Medellin and all over Colombia, but they are different and you can run into Medellin-hot girls here at the gyms and universities for sure, and they'll be way easier to bang here than in Medellin)

So you understand the difference in Santiago vs. Santo Domingo it is very big:

in Santiago the girls here are lighter-skinned and actually more attracted to men with darker, tan skin. This means that 90% of the guys on this forum are going to have better success in Santo Domingo and many are going to be more attracted to the girls there. There are a lot of darker-skinned woman there , maybe 70% black/African, 30% Spanish in terms of background. Those girls like white guys. In Santiago, it's the exact opposite percentage. And the average guy in Santiago is already pretty good looking and is Spanish looking, light skin with dark hair, so if you're the average white guy, unless you have blonde hair and lighter eyes, or are willing to put in some solid effort gaming, you're not going to be able to take advantage of the increased exotic value here. If you're are like you say you are, a blonde Aussie, or are Mexican, Asian, or a tan white guy, or of course if you have good game and balls, you can do well here.

Secondly, few people here speak English, everyone says it's more American here. That isn't true. You need to speak Intermediate Spanish to game/date girls here. I speak Intermediate to Advanced Spanish and it's still tough for me. Girls here are more conservative, you will have to break down barriers, explain things, and, at times, argue, neg or tease. I don't know how anyone would have great success here if they didn't speak basic Spanish.

Third, there is more money here, in certain areas like Los Jardines, many people have cars, and chicks won't "date" you if you don't have some money to drop. This isn't like the majority of Santo Domingo, I'm not sure why, but almost all the cars here are nearly new, plenty of Range Rovers, many Porsches, and BMW's. You can bang these girls but if they're hot (a 7 or above with no kids), rest assured, some guy with a fairly new car is taking her out and doing the same. I figured out the logistics of living cheap and impressing girls for cheap but it took me some time to do so. I can explain.

Overall Santiago has:
-Hotter girls , lighter-skinned and more diversity if you want darker-skinned chicks as well
(Plenty of solid 6's and 6.5's which aren't very difficult to bang and if you want to put in the work
you will run into 7's and 8's , plenty in gyms and universities)
-Far better logistics, public cars, which makes girls less flaky, it's basically a quadrant based system
-Significantly cheaper, food can be pricey, it can be a bit american here, many people have cars here but rent is a solid 40% less than Santo Domingo
-far less P4P, I ran into a lot of chicks in Santo domingo who asked me for money or a gift when i was about to bang them, I've never once run into this in Santiago
-better weather, far less sultry than santo domingo, you don't have that horrible sweaty humidity
-far better Gringo value, it's nothing like Colombia but you can meet girls just walking on the streets and looking for IOI's, asking for directions, etc.

In terms of gaming, I did plenty of online game. Plenty of girls online looking for Gringos and very few Gringos to go around. But they are not Gringo-obsessed like in Colombia or in parts of Asia. Girls here are more conservative in that they need more plausible deniability. Unless you are very good looking, or have a car here, the majority of your bangs will be on the 2nd date, but it's an almost guaranteed bang if you have your own place.

I think day game and night game here are pretty great if you put in the time and effort. My favorite place was the centro, right near La Sirena all the way to McDonalds on Calle Del sol. Again, it's not for everyone, it takes balls, takes good body language and an ability to walk outside, in the heat, and you need to keep your eyes open. I had 3 bangs from that area including an 18 year old that was a near solid 8 and another pretty girl who was a virgin.

Places I did not have good luck:
1) I did Not have good luck in the grocery stores like Sirena or Nacional, BUT others on the forum have so take this with a grain of salt.
(they're usually just dead or the girls are there with their parents or they are single moms buyng something for their kid)
2) I did not have good luck in the malls (they are pretty dead here)
3) so far I have not had great luck in the univerisites. (this takes some work and patience )

The latter 2 here I would consider to be the opposite of Santo domingo (where you can walk into Sambil and walk out with 3 numbers almost any afternoon of the week).

If you do decide to go to Santo Domingo, I would suggest living in Zona Universitaria... I lived near Calle Conde when I was there and it was a huge mistake. Logistics in Santo Domingo are horrible and due to the economy it's far more gold-diggerish and P4P than it probably was 5 to 10 years ago. There were far more gaming opporunties in Zona Universitaria with normal girls, not hookers, and almost every girl was a student at one of the universities there, mainly UASD so public transportation there was perfect. I spent most of my time gaming there at the universities or malls. Both were decent. Personally I couldn't stand nightlife in Santo Domingo so I didn't do much night game but El Conquistador had a different experience. Not knocking the hotness of girls in Santo domingo but the few girls I met from nightlife in Santo domingo, every one of them asked me for money or gifts or something before the bang, and these were girls who clearly didn't deserve it, single mom's or girls in their late 20'S.

PM me if you want more info, in my personal opinion, if you've lived in Medellin, unless you have a serious black girl obsession and like the hoodrat look, you're going to be seriously disappointed with Santo Domingo.

My efforts over the next few months will be spent at the univeristies, PUCMM and Utesa as well as some direct game at the Gym. I have also mapped out the Ladies Nights and have yet to hit them up. I've heard from my friend and fellow Roosh member that nightlife gets very good in December so am looking forward to hitting that up then. There are also several smaller cities nearby here which are 30 to 45 minutes away by bus so it opens up considerable opportunities to game other places.

Post: #634

Does anybody know of an apartment in Santo Domingo that I could rent for nine days in late December/early January? I'm going somewhere and my options are pretty much limited to Playa del Carmen and Santo Domingo. Playa has more available flights, has more available rentals, is cheaper, and I don't need to use taxis there. The problem is that I struggle like hell to get one to three girls a week there. In Santo Domingo, I obviously won't have that problem. One bedroom is probably best and I would prefer to be either in Naco or near (but not right on) the Malecon. Price doesn't matter much, but I would obviously prefer something cheaper. Thanks in advance.

Edit: I just booked my flight to Santo Domingo. It connects in Fort Lauderdale, possibly the worst airport known to man. Unfortunately, they stopped those direct flights from Philadelphia to Santo Domingo. I used to drive to the Philadelphia airport from either the D.C. area or the Jersey Shore and the trip was nice and easy.

Post: #635

[quote='Merenguero' pid='1141715' dateline='1446591282'

Edit: I just booked my flight to Santo Domingo. It connects in Fort Lauderdale, possibly the worst airport known to man. Unfortunately, they stopped those direct flights from Philadelphia to Santo Domingo. I used to drive to the Philadelphia airport from either the D.C. area or the Jersey Shore and the trip was nice and easy.
[/quote]

That flight is only on Saturdays, unless it's been discontinued for the winter (flew it last month).

Post: #636

(11-03-2015 06:52 PM)elcidcampeador Wrote:  [quote='Merenguero' pid='1141715' dateline='1446591282'

Edit: I just booked my flight to Santo Domingo. It connects in Fort Lauderdale, possibly the worst airport known to man. Unfortunately, they stopped those direct flights from Philadelphia to Santo Domingo. I used to drive to the Philadelphia airport from either the D.C. area or the Jersey Shore and the trip was nice and easy.

That flight is only on Saturdays, unless it's been discontinued for the winter (flew it last month).
[/quote]

What flight? Philadelphia to Santo Domingo? On what airline? The old flight was on U.S. Air and last time I checked, there were no direct flights from Philadelphia to Santo Domingo. If it is only on Saturday, it probably wouldn't do me much good anyway.

Post: #637

US Airways, now part of AA. Also fly to PUJ. Easy to get United nonstops to SDQ, PJU, STI out of EWR as well.

Post: #638

I'm spending nine days in Naco starting next month. I'm thinking in that time, I can get five to ten notches with minimal effort. It's not Mexico or Argentina. I will be doing everything except for nightgame and I either won't be drinking or will drink very little. Santo Domingo was never a great nightlife city, and it is much worse without Trio and some of the other venues they used to have. What is the best gym in or around Naco? How much does it cost? What is the best place for daygame in or around Naco? What are some good restaurants around there?

Post: #639

Great thread.

I have a question for the board about costs of living.

I'm considering spending some time in either Santo Domingo or Medellin next year and according to expatistan and numbeo, SD is significantly more expensive than Medellin.

Numbeo even claims the DR is overall more expensive than Colombia.

Have you guys that have lived or visited both places found this to be accurate? I've had this impression that the DR was very cheap and Colombia had become expensive but maybe I'm way off base.

Post: #640

(11-07-2015 11:33 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  I'm spending nine days in Naco starting next month. I'm thinking in that time, I can get five to ten notches with minimal effort. It's not Mexico or Argentina. I will be doing everything except for nightgame and I either won't be drinking or will drink very little. Santo Domingo was never a great nightlife city, and it is much worse without Trio and some of the other venues they used to have. What is the best gym in or around Naco? How much does it cost? What is the best place for daygame in or around Naco? What are some good restaurants around there?

If you like high-end gyms with hot girls then go to 'The Body Shop'. There's one in Naco, but I heard that it's a lot more crowded than the one in Bella Vista. Although it does have a pool. Your first time there you can get a guest pass for a day. After that it will be about 10 USD for a day pass.

http://www.clubbodyshop.com/app/club_naco.aspx

Post: #641

(11-08-2015 10:42 AM)NovaVirtu Wrote:  Great thread.

I have a question for the board about costs of living.

I'm considering spending some time in either Santo Domingo or Medellin next year and according to expatistan and numbeo, SD is significantly more expensive than Medellin.

Numbeo even claims the DR is overall more expensive than Colombia.

Have you guys that have lived or visited both places found this to be accurate? I've had this impression that the DR was very cheap and Colombia had become expensive but maybe I'm way off base.

The reason I am not so positive about the DR, in general is the relative attitude of most young girls there.
For example, I was hanging out, in my apartment, with an 18 yr old mulata girl here in Fortaleza, Brazil.
Very pretty but obsessed by regaeton, rappers and just in general very superficial. Made me pay for a taxi driver to go pick her up. Different than most of the girls (she seemed Dominican) I have been with here in Brazil. Makes me appreciate a true Brazilian woman.
After 2 hours, I threw her out, without having sex..... though I was groping her all over. She said she wanted to go out by the beach and meet her friends later.
Later called a 29 yr. old single white mom who came to my apartment in her SUV. So the night ended up ok.

Post: #642

(11-08-2015 10:42 AM)NovaVirtu Wrote:  Great thread.

I have a question for the board about costs of living.

I'm considering spending some time in either Santo Domingo or Medellin next year and according to expatistan and numbeo, SD is significantly more expensive than Medellin.

Numbeo even claims the DR is overall more expensive than Colombia.

Have you guys that have lived or visited both places found this to be accurate? I've had this impression that the DR was very cheap and Colombia had become expensive but maybe I'm way off base.

Besides Panama, the Dominican Republic is the most expensive country I have been to. It's still much cheaper than the United States. Honduras is the cheapest and Mexico and Colombia aren't far behind.

Post: #643

(11-08-2015 10:42 AM)NovaVirtu Wrote:  Great thread.

I have a question for the board about costs of living.

I'm considering spending some time in either Santo Domingo or Medellin next year and according to expatistan and numbeo, SD is significantly more expensive than Medellin.

Numbeo even claims the DR is overall more expensive than Colombia.

Have you guys that have lived or visited both places found this to be accurate? I've had this impression that the DR was very cheap and Colombia had become expensive but maybe I'm way off base.

Last year I lived in Santo Domingo for 12 months.

I've been living in Bogota, Colombia for a couple of months.

Colombia is way cheaper.

Post: #644

(11-07-2015 11:33 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  I'm spending nine days in Naco starting next month. I'm thinking in that time, I can get five to ten notches with minimal effort. It's not Mexico or Argentina. I will be doing everything except for nightgame and I either won't be drinking or will drink very little. Santo Domingo was never a great nightlife city, and it is much worse without Trio and some of the other venues they used to have. What is the best gym in or around Naco? How much does it cost? What is the best place for daygame in or around Naco? What are some good restaurants around there?

If you're living in Naco, the Olympic Stadium is close. Pick your sport- BJJ, Boxing, Judo, Volleyball etc. I had a coach from the Dominican weightlifting team train me in powerlifting. The monthly fee will be about 2,000 pesos.

Post: #645

(11-08-2015 01:08 PM)el conquistador Wrote:  

(11-08-2015 10:42 AM)NovaVirtu Wrote:  Great thread.

I have a question for the board about costs of living.

I'm considering spending some time in either Santo Domingo or Medellin next year and according to expatistan and numbeo, SD is significantly more expensive than Medellin.

Numbeo even claims the DR is overall more expensive than Colombia.

Have you guys that have lived or visited both places found this to be accurate? I've had this impression that the DR was very cheap and Colombia had become expensive but maybe I'm way off base.

Last year I lived in Santo Domingo for 12 months.

I've been living in Bogota, Colombia for a couple of months.

Colombia is way cheaper.

I always bring relatively the same amount of cash if I go out of the country for a week or so. Every time I go to either Colombia or Mexico, I spend maybe one half to two thirds of the amount of money I bring, regardless of the city. When I go to the Dominican Republic, I spend all of it and end up making withdrawals at an A.T.M.

Post: #646

(11-08-2015 10:56 AM)zoom Wrote:  

(11-07-2015 11:33 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  I'm spending nine days in Naco starting next month. I'm thinking in that time, I can get five to ten notches with minimal effort. It's not Mexico or Argentina. I will be doing everything except for nightgame and I either won't be drinking or will drink very little. Santo Domingo was never a great nightlife city, and it is much worse without Trio and some of the other venues they used to have. What is the best gym in or around Naco? How much does it cost? What is the best place for daygame in or around Naco? What are some good restaurants around there?

If you like high-end gyms with hot girls then go to 'The Body Shop'. There's one in Naco, but I heard that it's a lot more crowded than the one in Bella Vista. Although it does have a pool. Your first time there you can get a guest pass for a day. After that it will be about 10 USD for a day pass.

http://www.clubbodyshop.com/app/club_naco.aspx

Thanks. Yeah, I heard that on some days, the line to even get into The Body Shop is way out the door. I may end up just taking girls to a cabana like Tia Tania. I know doing that gets kind of expensive with the taxi fares and the cost of the cabana itself, but it really serves two purposes. The first is that if a girl agrees to go to a cabana, it's pretty much 100% that sex will happen, so I will be able to weed out the ones who are wasting my time. The second purpose it serves is that it will keep girls from hanging around my apartment building. I could see that being more of a problem in the Dominican Republic than in most other places.

Post: #647

Hello fellow roosh forum members,

Just landed in Santo Domingo last night. Staying at the Hilton, beautiful hotel and beautiful view.

Had a nice pipeline lined up, met my first yesterday. Solid 7, but annoying as hell. Took her to Adrian tropical for dinner, great food, lousy service.

Got the notch twice last night for a golden touchdown. Two more lined up for today. Headed to jarabacoa, the north coast, and samana this trip. If anyone wants to meet up PM me.

Post: #648

(11-14-2015 09:52 AM)pescobar86 Wrote:  Hello fellow roosh forum members,

Just landed in Santo Domingo last night. Staying at the Hilton, beautiful hotel and beautiful view.

Had a nice pipeline lined up, met my first yesterday. Solid 7, but annoying as hell. Took her to Adrian tropical for dinner, great food, lousy service.

Got the notch twice last night for a golden touchdown. Two more lined up for today. Headed to jarabacoa, the north coast, and samana this trip. If anyone wants to meet up PM me.

Did you have any trouble getting her into the Hilton? I've never stayed there, nor have I heard anything about it. I have eaten at Adrian Tropical before and thought it was pretty good.

Post: #649

Yea, they hit me for a $38 charge to bring her up at night... Pretty sure after 7 or so they start checking. Didn't give me hassle, just paid and went upstairs.

Just finished up date and notch #2, two in twenty four hours on the island. Another is due to arrive in an hour...

Post: #650

(11-14-2015 03:33 PM)pescobar86 Wrote:  Yea, they hit me for a $38 charge to bring her up at night... Pretty sure after 7 or so they start checking. Didn't give me hassle, just paid and went upstairs.

Just finished up date and notch #2, two in twenty four hours on the island. Another is due to arrive in an hour...

If you pay, they will probably leave you alone, except at Jaragua. I say if you have to pay, you may as well just take her to a cabana. That way, if she agrees to go there, it is pretty much 100% that sex will happen and you won't have to worry about her hanging around the hotel after you have sex.