Post: #1

Living in sydney, hitting up girls primarily in the 18-25 age group I have noticed this trend: these girls will be quite happy to blow you but as soon as you suggest sex they come up with some whore logic like "I barely know you".

Ironic as shit considering your dick is in their mouth.

Anyway, have any of you guys encountered this? Reminds me a bit of when I briefly visited America and girls were all about dancing and making out and then as soon it was crunch time it was all "I'm not a slut".

Post: #2

Looks like I'm going to Australia.


For srs though, BJ logistics are a hell of a lot easier than a bang.

Post: #3

Just go down to Kings Cross and you'll find plenty of girls who will give you anything you want...

Seriously though, in the US we were fortunate to have Bill Clinton explain to the people that a BJ is not sex. And a generation of girls grew up with this understanding. So sure, you can toss some throat yogurt down their muzzles, but getting laid (with a condom even) is considered more sexual to them.

Post: #4

With the advent of "hook-up culture," many girls consider dick sucking LESS intimate than kissing. Their introduction to sexuality is polishing knobs, and probably letting dudes fingerbang them and feel them up. While you can't dispute oral is a sex "act," many (yes, Bill Clinton too) don't consider it SEX (non-intercourse). In other generations chicks gave head or handjobs to remain technically virgins, while keeping their boyfriend from straying until the were ready to give him the pussy. The bolder girls would give him anal, while preserving the integrity of the pussy.

Post: #5

(11-17-2011 03:35 PM)Sushifan Wrote:  Just go down to Kings Cross and you'll find plenty of girls who will give you anything you want...

They don't all look like dingos.

Post: #6

I look at Blowjobs as a sign of submission. The women get's little physical pleasure out of it. The hopefully get a lot of pleasure out of it.

She is willing to sacrifice her own pleasure for his.

Post: #7

As wrote above, in US is even more common.
I once had that slutty 9.5 girl which wished to thank me for great evening, she agreed to blow my dick (with condom) in the back seat but refuses even to kiss me! not to mention bang.

Post: #8

(11-23-2011 11:11 AM)Marco Wrote:  As wrote above, in US is even more common.
I once had that slutty 9.5 girl which wished to thank me for great evening, she agreed to blow my dick (with condom) in the back seat but refuses even to kiss me! not to mention bang.

Blow you WITH a condom on? That's like her giving you a hand job with your hand. I'd just say 'No thanks,' and move on.

Post: #9

Gents, unless you are running some solid club game kings cross is a shit option. Either that or you are ready to blow some serious cash and are ready to get fucked around by bouncers.

If anyone from the forums is rolling in sydney, on a thursday night 'hot damn' on oxford street is the place to be.

Post: #10

(11-23-2011 10:47 AM)Clyde Wrote:  I look at Blowjobs as a sign of submission. The women get's little physical pleasure out of it. The hopefully get a lot of pleasure out of it.

She is willing to sacrifice her own pleasure for his.

That's bullshit. I know plenty of girls who enjoy giving head. Girl giving you head is all about how into you she is.

If she sees you as an unattainable guy (guy with looks, status, money, or power) she'll do it as a way to have power over you. Because she knows you'll come back for more head.

Post: #11

Hahaha BJs are great. But I notice if I end up getting the secluded space sex is inevitable. When a broad is wanting D she usually gets mad at having to slobber on the knob for a long time. Fuck it tho, I can't fuck a broad unless she submits to my pipe. Sex is a two way street.. and she receives more out of it than the male does (A females orgasm is like 30x what a mans is).

I do notice as I get older broads get fussy with the BJ thing, they would simply rather fuck, but once a broad shows shes to "good" to suck dick I immediately don't want to bang her as much. Its like broads 23-28 get fussy bout it then crave again for it once they hit the wall of 30. The young broads don't seem to care, most would rather give a BJ then take a shot of absinthe.

Post: #12

I've actually had the opposite, I directed her towards the bj and got the "I don't know you that well" line. Banged a minute later.

Post: #13

A lot safer for a girl to have sex with a condom than a blowjob without. The smart ones know that.

Post: #14

(11-24-2011 12:26 AM)babelfish669 Wrote:  A lot safer for a girl to have sex with a condom than a blowjob without. The smart ones know that.

It's even safer not to do either. What's your point?

Post: #15

(11-23-2011 10:47 AM)Clyde Wrote:  I look at Blowjobs as a sign of submission. The women get's little physical pleasure out of it. The hopefully get a lot of pleasure out of it.

She is willing to sacrifice her own pleasure for his.

I think oral is too common to indicate submission. It's become too casual. Maybe if she's on her knees before you, while you stand tall, MAYBE, because she's physically in a submissive position. Now ANAL...that's a different story. If a chick lets you anally sodomize her, THAT'S submitting in my book.

Post: #16

(11-24-2011 12:48 AM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(11-23-2011 10:47 AM)Clyde Wrote:  I look at Blowjobs as a sign of submission. The women get's little physical pleasure out of it. The hopefully get a lot of pleasure out of it.

She is willing to sacrifice her own pleasure for his.

I think oral is too common to indicate submission. It's become too casual. Maybe if she's on her knees before you, while you stand tall, MAYBE, because she's physically in a submissive position. Now ANAL...that's a different story. If a chick lets you anally sodomize her, THAT'S submitting in my book.

honestly is anything submitting nowadays? these hoes will do anything with anyone

Post: #17

(11-24-2011 01:25 AM)endobendo Wrote:  

(11-24-2011 12:48 AM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(11-23-2011 10:47 AM)Clyde Wrote:  I look at Blowjobs as a sign of submission. The women get's little physical pleasure out of it. The hopefully get a lot of pleasure out of it.

She is willing to sacrifice her own pleasure for his.

I think oral is too common to indicate submission. It's become too casual. Maybe if she's on her knees before you, while you stand tall, MAYBE, because she's physically in a submissive position. Now ANAL...that's a different story. If a chick lets you anally sodomize her, THAT'S submitting in my book.

honestly is anything submitting nowadays? these hoes will do anything with anyone

That just means we should have higher standards when screening for submissiveness. Because they're getting nastier as a whole, we can always think she individually should be taking it to the next level of submissiveness. No matter how submissive you think she is there are thousands of girls who are doing the same thing/act, and you're most likely not the only guy she's done this with.

So we should not just think about blow jobs, now anal. Not just anal, but rough sex in public places. Not just rough sex in public places, but basically setting up a threesome with you and her best friend to please you, inviting you to cheat, giving you gifts, etc. It's an ever-extending ladder. If you want more theory/ modern standards of submissiveness, I think heartiste is the best source for that.

Post: #18

Maybe she likes anal. Maybe she's thinking, "if I can get him to stick his dick in my shit-filled poop chute, THAT's submitting in my book!"

Post: #19

not denying your story or anything but thats strange,
here in america a blowjob is a sign of submission in part of the female, the girl doesnt get any pleasure out of it unless she really knows the guy or is really down but my question would be why wouldnt you have sex with her after she went down on you she just gave you her special delight maybe you should work on your game say something like "you already sucked my dick, might aswell fuck me" cause most of the girls i ever met are quite the opposite, they fuck you first and if they enjoyed it and want more theyll go ahead and blow you just to keep you around or whatever

Post: #20

(11-24-2011 03:58 AM)StraightMackin Wrote:  not denying your story or anything but thats strange,
here in america a blowjob is a sign of submission in part of the female, the girl doesnt get any pleasure out of it unless she really knows the guy or is really down but my question would be why wouldnt you have sex with her after she went down on you she just gave you her special delight maybe you should work on your game say something like "you already sucked my dick, might aswell fuck me" cause most of the girls i ever met are quite the opposite, they fuck you first and if they enjoyed it and want more theyll go ahead and blow you just to keep you around or whatever

With oral she may not be getting physical stimulation, but she wants to please YOU. She's getting pleasure mentally, and you can feel her up while she's giving you the head clinic. I think anal is more submissive because there can in fact be pain involved - she's not necessarily getting pleasure of anal either, yet is letting you bury the bone in her backyard. A chick that's really into doing it has probably learned how to take it, so it's pure pleasure. But being face down, ass up is definitely a submissive position, and there's a certain aspect of violation with anal.

Post: #21

When I was in middle/ high school right after the Bill clinton scandal, girls as young as 13 started giving blow jobs like semen cleared acne. Sex was harder to get, but head was a given if a girl was feeling you at all. It was a wonderful time.

Maybe it has to do with the submission thing, but I noticed that back then black girls were the least likely to give head. Me and my boys used to discuss this, it was always easier to fuck a black girl but to get head you would have to be in a relationship. While with all the other chicks it was the opposite.

Post: #22

(not talking to anyone specifically)

but why wouldnt you go for the pussy?

if i was in that scenario i would straight up check that bitch,
what kind of bitch blows guys but doesnt fuck them thats fucken
bullshit, im not buying that shit, if she goes around suckin dicks
and kissing guys then shes a straight up slut because shes having
guys dicks up in her mouth while shes most likely kissing you

so by not getting the pussy your getting played

if i ever saw a girl who sucked my dick again i would straight up
tell her to get on her knees cause she already knows the deal

just think about it, shes most likely sucking every guys dick she meets,
and those guys are mostly fucking her too, so why wouldnt you ???

Post: #23

Is the next thread, "Tossing salad, rather than bang"?

Post: #24

For me blowjobs are just a pre-sex thing.

Its 99% sure im gonna fuck the girl if she blows me. I had one Filipina girl give me a blow job because she said my dick was Too big Too strong (she actually nicknamed me that and sometimes we joke about it on facebook) and one Norwegian girl who didnt mind 5 fingers up her pussy and deep throating my dick 3 times in 3 hours while swallowing my loads but for some reason didn't wanted to bang.

Those are the only times i just had a blowjob. Maybe you guys need to work on your seduction a bit more.

Post: #25

(11-25-2011 11:21 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  For me blowjobs are just a pre-sex thing.

Its 99% sure im gonna fuck the girl if she blows me. I had one Filipina girl give me a blow job because she said my dick was Too big Too strong (she actually nicknamed me that and sometimes we joke about it on facebook) and one Norwegian girl who didnt mind 5 fingers up her pussy and deep throating my dick 3 times in 3 hours while swallowing my loads but for some reason didn't wanted to bang.

Those are the only times i just had a blowjob. Maybe you guys need to work on your seduction a bit more.

Yes...for me, blowjobs are basically foreplay. I've never gotten it polished and not fucked afterwards. But young chicks ARE doling them out as the be all to end all. It harkens back to other generations when chicks doled them out to preserve virginity. Sometimes logistics prevent the subsequent bang (you can get a blowjob in a place where it's either difficult or impossible to fuck - like a public or semi-public place and you're scared of getting caught), but if you're in a private place, you need to be pushing for the bang.