Post: #51

In 2017 (Wroclaw) I'm seeing more suspicion from indirect approaches than from direct approaches, especially if you are genuinely interested in the girl.

I do think "scaring the cat" does apply, whether on opening or when trying to take things further in the day. But this only applies to some girls. Some girls do run from a direct approach, this is true. I scared a girl the other day and maybe she would have stuck around if I had rambled for a while about what type of milk I should buy. There is a distrust of foreigners which can scare them away if you're too forward, or for others you can scare them away because you're not being honest and they are suspicious.

More, especially the hot, bitchy looking ones know what is up when you came around and tried to stop them. Asking a random question can result in "He asked me out of all these people, come on..." Sometimes the high effort running around clown style hard stop is required for these, and brutal honesty.

The long banned GK mentioned the concept of "undergaming" with Polish women. It only takes a dozen or so average young polish couples walking by to see why.

At the moment I would probably say the sweet, innocent Polish girls might require "undergaming", as they can be suspicious of any foreigner and more secure with a polish guy even if he would get obliterated in the west. Going direct doesn't have to be all hardcore, you can just say you saw her from X (and point) and thought she looked nice and you wanted to say hello. Dropping all kinds of negs, little reflex cocky remarks that do well with american girls, and trying to show that you can be loyal to her, complimenting her etc. can do good because she does not trust easily. One girl I swear I think if I had promised her the world in a kind of romantic speech instead of trying to pull her straight after 30 mins of talking I might have got somewhere.

The same goes for style for some reason. I should have brought more cheap sneakers, and sports tracksuits. These are usually worn by lower class men in the US and UK but it is quite popular among polish men who have confusingly hot girlfriends.

I'm not really sure indirect or direct would make that much of a difference, just being a bit of a lazy shit and toning everything down might work better. So say whatever comes to your head and if she's interested she will stand there and try and talk to you.

If you have a genuine question about her it works as well because it's honest, so not really a direct vs indirect thing. XXL got a bit too much heat for some quite true stuff.

Sometimes I don't even remember what the fuck I said and it is blergh. This is when you are trying to drop all your Anglosphere cocky, witty, "hard work" game but you become all sloppy and you end up blurting out complete horse shit to polish girls. These generally don't go well because I got too lazy, usually when the girl is mediocre.

All in all it's a mixed bag. Just posted this as I read an old GK post about undergaming which I was thinking of doing as well, heck I was automatically doing it when I saw the competition and due to fatigue. Polish girls nowadays are quite confusing, there are different types of them which require different approaches, there's not one universal best approach. So one minute you might have to game like you're half retarded and maybe declare some feelings so that you can look as much of a chode as possible and another minute you might have to stop a fast moving super hot girl who does need a strong direct approach to have a chance at working.

This all applies to daygame, I can't comment on inside bars/clubs.

Post: #52

Just one thing to add: I can see XXL's point regarding being guarded and cold, some girls are still like that. But overall I think the best is to go indirect, but have a good natural transition from the original indirect question. If she's showing positive body language, you can then just run basic where are you from type game. This assumes she understand English which a lot don't.

Post: #53

Quick update I'm currently sitting in warsaw and have been to krawkov. If you are any shade of brown you have an uphill battle boys. Not to say it cannot be overcome, but the migrate crisis effects has hit here hard. I'm latino brown hair and brown skin and 5'7. It's been difficult and people can be more racist towards you. polish girls are very fond of Americans, that's a plus. With decent game and being American you can get laid. I'd say today if your white speak good english and have some knowledge of the polish language with decent game you can get some ass here.

Post: #54

Is Poland considered Eastern Europe or Western Europe?

Post: #55

(05-26-2018 03:01 AM)Kyon Wrote:  Is Poland considered Eastern Europe or Western Europe?

This division doesn't hold anymore the way it did during the Iron Curtain era. Since Poland joined EU in 2004 (and following massive brain drain), it significantly westernized, especially the West part of the country. Whereas it still is in many ways the way it was, a catholic, conservative (nowadays even more so due to Law and Order ruling party) and somewhat parochial due to stymied economic progress (Stalin made it impossible for Poland to join Marshall Plan), which is visible in much lower wages than West of the Oder river, it enjoys, in key cities a western lifestyle. Unfortunately, current ruling party reversed many processes, centralised power and engages in unheard of amount of propaganda and media stifling. I have a US friend who has a Polish wife and kids and she doesn't want to move out of there (go figure, women...) and he hates living there. But there you go, had he picked the right women, he wouldn't have this headache.

Post: #56

(09-25-2017 08:20 PM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:  The same goes for style for some reason. I should have brought more cheap sneakers, and sports tracksuits. These are usually worn by lower class men in the US and UK but it is quite popular among polish men who have confusingly hot girlfriends.

I've just got myself a fantastic quality black leather jacket. Long live the PUA outfit!

Post: #57

@kyron depends what you mean by that here people seem to rather say they are central europe.they consider anything after poland eastern Europe. They don't like Russia or germany go figure. The women overall are super laid back and approachable. No extream feminists but the idea of it has reached Poland.

Post: #58

(05-26-2018 03:01 AM)Kyon Wrote:  Is Poland considered Eastern Europe or Western Europe?

Neither, it's in Central Europe along with Germany, Austria, Czech, Slovakia and Hungary.

Post: #59

I will leave Poland on Tuesday, and will put up a stat sheet and update. My next stop is Denmark (copenhagen) also before I do this I want to thank those that came before me and layed down the ground and stat sheets.

Post: #60

What city in Poland? I heard Krakow is a good city this time of the year.

Post: #61

Krawkov is great I was there for last week for 7 days and managed 2 bangs. I'm in warsaw right now till tuesday. last night was awesome by the vistula river but today it rained so no one is out in the streets and I'm trying to find a bar. I noticed that here in warsaw lightning doesn't strike twice :/ to be honest all polish girls are pretty hot certainly better than german and english women.

Post: #62

My Polish skype teacher says my level fluctuates between A2 to B1 so maybe I should do an experiment and approach x number of girls in Polish and see if it helps at all.

Post: #63

It is indicative how those "success stories" in Krakow come from nicknames with a very small amount of posts...whilst repped guys speak the truth about the real situation.

Post: #64

Yes that would be a good experiment. I can imagine if you speak polish and have a slight accent or something to that sort it would spark curiosity about where you are from and then you tell them and possibly switch from english and polish and I think then you got your foot in the door. Also if it's not to much could you post that here after so I can learn from your experience? Thanks

Post: #65

2nd girl I approached yesterday (100% in Polish) I number closed. Pretty sure I misunderstood 40% of what she said but she seemed like a strong maybe girl. Will report back when I have more data.

Post: #66

(11-09-2011 12:39 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  XXL:

ChOpin is a nobody on this forum...He doesn't give any cred to your BS.

No offense, but Polish dudes don't know there head from there ass when it comes to getting girls. Some of the most pathetic game I have ever seen. I would never take game advice from a Polish dude (such as yourself) unless I've seen him first hand.

You remind me of TG3 from a while back who got banned. Moronic posts.

Never have read so much rubbish. You have to be quite retarded to think that all poles are the same

Post: #67

Will be in Warsaw Dec 5-12th. Anyone down for daygame night game?

Post: #68

Try using the Roosh or Tyler Durden's style of game