Post: #1

So, as this has come up in the past few encounters that I have had I thought I would run it through the pussy hunting crowd for you own thoughts.

Situation: You are on date two, (or three) and you still haven't had sex with the girl. You have gotten her back to your place both times, but both times you have been rebuffed when going for full close. You know the girl likes you, (a lot) but wants you for long term relationship kind of BS.

Anyways, of course you want to bang this girl, solid 8, but she is giving off the 'I am not a slut' powervibe. I know many of you have been here, so what is the best option.

a) lead her on, feign some degree of relationship(esque) interest, and then drop her, leaving her with some emotional baggage etc.
b) indirectly hint that you are more of a casual hookup kind of guy.
c) directly state that you are into casual-ness
d) do neither
e) pull your pants down and swing your dick around in a helicopter motion

I know most of you have been here. It tends to happen especially if it is a friend or a girl with some sort of sex / personal issues.

Post: #2

also applies to flaky girls who don't know what they want, and end up wasting your time.

Basically, how to get to the "lets just casually fuck"

Post: #3

be direct.

Post: #4

Definitely not A. It's a trap i've fallen for, where you supposedly give a girl what you want and then you get what you want. Doesn't work like that. SHE has to give you what you want in order for her to get what she wants.

You have to frame it so that you tell her you don't want a girl who may have intimacy issues, that all your previous girls have been very comfortable. Basically straight up ask her if something is wrong with her or some baggage she may have. Make it seem like if she doesn't put out soon, you will move on, but let her connect the dots.

Post: #5

(06-17-2009 06:07 PM)College Game Wrote:  a) lead her on, feign some degree of relationship(esque) interest, and then drop her, leaving her with some emotional baggage etc.
b) indirectly hint that you are more of a casual hookup kind of guy.
c) directly state that you are into casual-ness
d) do neither
e) pull your pants down and swing your dick around in a helicopter motion

My favorite option is e).

I agree with Roosh. You should make her feel more comfortable but intrigued and let her believe that it's in her best interests to sleep with you. Do NOT be direct or even indirect - this will give her a confirmation that you want her/like her and might make her lose interest and move on to another target to boost her ego.

Post: #6

Ok, here's something that always works for me.

If you're at the point where you're in bed with a girl, and she's giving you some LMR, which is basically an "I am not a slut" vibe, you just completely go cold in the middle of a passionate exchange, especially when she is giving you the LMR, and go do something else, and basically actively turn your BL away from her. She will usually come to you and try to re-engage. I'm not sure if this is the point you're at in this date, but if you are already actively making out, and maybe at the point of heavy-petting or whatever 3rd base is, it should work.

And in regards to letting her fall for you... that's her decision Seductive/charismatic men are loved and adored by many women. I personally wouldn't lead her on into thinking I want a relationship, although I am not against saying things that kind of "wet" her appetite.

I guess the thing is, for me it's not just about getting the bang, but seducing the girl. I love having a girl chase after me. It's a fun game. Anyway...

Post: #7

Quote:Put her on slow-track. Gradually pull away. See her a bit less, call her a bit less, etc. If you've been seeing her once a week, pull back and not call/text for 1.5 weeks or maybe more. The slow pull-back will intensify her feelings for you and that will over-ride her logical decision.

It won't intensify feelings if she doesn't have serious feelings about you in the first place, which is probably the case since she isn't putting out. I find the pull back move doesn't work well because the momentum and sense of urgency is destroyed. There is a window to bang a girl, and once you pass that it becomes such an uphill battle that finding a new girl is easier.

Post: #8

Bringing her to a state of complete sexual ecstacy, with your fingers, may work.

A couple notes:

One way or another, I often project a vibe that suggest I've been with lots of girls. And I haven't really.

Girls will have an easier time giving it up to a guy who fucks lots of girls 'cause, well, "all the other girls got a chance!" If you subcommunicate sex is not a big deal to you, she'll be easier.*

Being playfully chauvinistic helps.

*I have great ho-dar I'm told, FWIW.

Post: #9

(06-22-2009 11:55 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:Put her on slow-track. Gradually pull away. See her a bit less, call her a bit less, etc. If you've been seeing her once a week, pull back and not call/text for 1.5 weeks or maybe more. The slow pull-back will intensify her feelings for you and that will over-ride her logical decision.

It won't intensify feelings if she doesn't have serious feelings about you in the first place, which is probably the case since she isn't putting out. I find the pull back move doesn't work well because the momentum and sense of urgency is destroyed. There is a window to bang a girl, and once you pass that it becomes such an uphill battle that finding a new girl is easier.

Ok both of you make sense in your own ways but I've just fell in the same shit. To me pulling back makes sense but then again not letting the momentum fade makes complete sense also. Which is correct for what diff situations?

Post: #10

(10-07-2009 06:02 PM)Fuzzface Wrote:  Ok both of you make sense in your own ways but I've just fell in the same shit. To me pulling back makes sense but then again not letting the momentum fade makes complete sense also. Which is correct for what diff situations?

I never really understood the friends with women thing.

If someone is truly your friend, you should be able to talk to them about anything right?

If you do try to back it off, she may just get upset because her "friend" isn't answering when she calls.

Which way do you think your momentum is going?

Post: #11

My experience has been that there are two girls who won't put out:

1. A girl who will make out w/you but won't put out for any reason at all
2. A girl who is interested in putting out but is a bit shy/virgin or inexperienced.

Have you tried to escalate with her past the kissing? IE putting her hand on your dick and see how she reacts?

If she won't do a thing past kissing, I would drop her asap.

Post: #12

The original intent of this post (read the first one) was to examine the situation of just having sex with someone, someone who would want to have a relationship but you just want to have sex with her, a few times. Basically, how to get to the, "lets just be fu*k buddies"

With regards to the specific situation stated, I never got to f*ck her for these reasons. The girl ended up telling me she loved me, and crying and what not when I didn't want anything to do with her. I thought I should have felt bad, but I didn't. She was banging hot, supermodel body, but as dumb as a sack of hammers.

Post: #13

She wouldn't let me make out with her. WTF she was flirting like hell tho

Post: #14

(06-22-2009 11:55 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:Put her on slow-track. Gradually pull away. See her a bit less, call her a bit less, etc. If you've been seeing her once a week, pull back and not call/text for 1.5 weeks or maybe more. The slow pull-back will intensify her feelings for you and that will over-ride her logical decision.

It won't intensify feelings if she doesn't have serious feelings about you in the first place, which is probably the case since she isn't putting out. I find the pull back move doesn't work well because the momentum and sense of urgency is destroyed. There is a window to bang a girl, and once you pass that it becomes such an uphill battle that finding a new girl is easier.

I'm living this right now. I misjudged her level of interest and the pull back move backfired. I may have had an opportunity to bang but I missed out and now I don't feel it's even worth trying to get it back.