Man that is one giant word soup of popular right wing slang. and you say im triggered but you feel the need to write bolded paragraphs of nonsense.
how is it "manly" to accept insults but its "pussy" to strike someone who says outlandish things against you? please explain.
and get off the epic rants of "shitholes" and "western world greatest culture ever" garbage. Like you said, this isnt the politics forum so dont bring it up in the first place.
(10-07-2018 12:59 PM)raveking Wrote: If I call a black person on the street a n*gger and get beaten, that's fine but that person better be also ready to pay the consequence of going to fucking jail.
Bad analogy. I don't think faggots using "fighting words" that they need the police to back is some pinnacle of Western Civilization, more a modern pussified thing.
They used to duel with pistols and such.
You can beat people up for "insulting your family and religion or make deragatory comments" just be prepared to face the consequences. Is it a pussified thing to do when law and order needs to be maintained? If we're all using this "code" an eye for an eye makes everyone blind. Chaos and anarchy ensues. Sometimes it's just better to have thicker skin, I agree there's a time and place for people to sort their shit out. However in the context of the fight, there was no further need to instigate more drama after the "bully" got his shit pushed in.
Please give me a better example? It's the same thing when women say "I shouldn't have gotten raped just because I was wearing skimpy outfits". Perhaps I'm not getting the right analogies here...
If someone calls people "nigger, white devil" say "suck my dick" etc (fighting words) and call the police once they are slapped around, they are probably a homosexual.
I'm not advocating for mob violence (such as the Khabib incident.) I am 100% against the Khabib incident, which should have ended when Khabib made McGregor his bitch.
Went out last night and saw the fight, had a bit of fun after it too.
My biggest takeaway from the fight itself is that Khabib defeated Conor not just inside the Octagon but outside of it. For the longest time it was Conor was the DGAF alpha male UFC bad boy who the law is always after. Now Khabib wrecks McGregor (and that fight was never even close) and then scares his camp while having that same DGAF attitude. You have Chael and Dana getting on Khabib for being disrespectful, classless and scary because of his antics but this actually fuels his reputation for the long term.
Khabib not only beat Conor, he shattered his image and took his reputation right from under him. Now Conor has to be the victim that runs to the law and Dana White in order to seek justice which is the least Conor McGregor thing you can think of.
The psychology behind Khabib's actions is worth discussing because I don't think he did in the rush of the moment, he did to beat McGregor inside and destroy him outside of the Octagon which I think he successfully did.
Khabib has effectively made McGregor and his camp a bunch of victims which is the last thing they would want to be seen as. The guy is truly underrated for his mind games, I want to know what he was saying to McGregor inside of the ring as he was beating his face in.
(10-07-2018 01:38 AM)Captain Gh Wrote: Hopefully Dana understand this it's Khabib first time fucking up Baddd... and doesn't strip him! At worse maybe strips Khabib, and allowing him to fight for a vacant title against Ferguson if the Heat is on the UFC to discipline him. Dillon got what he deserved though! Guy talking mad mad shitnlike he's somethin!
In close quarters like that, Dillon would have fucked him up had they not been separated.
Dillon AIN'T DOING SHIT to Khabib. Yeah he's a Jits guy... and Khabib's a Fucking World Sambo Champion! Hopefully my Boy Chandler's smashes this fool if they meet in Bellator!
(10-07-2018 05:20 AM)Mage Wrote: At first I also s thought that Khabib has lost it and became insane, that he has lost morally and committed career suicide, but after giving it some more thought I think what he did was a smart stunt to gain even more notoriety then the notorious one, but in Khabibs own mountain tribal style.
I don't believe Khabib will get suspended or punished seriously. He is undefeated champion with unique style and everyone wants to see him fight some more until he loses.
Considering all the persons involved are from teams of Khabib and McGregor, I believe the post fight incident could have been arranged and they made agreement Khabib would do this in case of victory. Even if it was not agreed before McGregor will probably not pull charges, if he does then he would expose himself as a hypocrite and a pussy because he himself attacked that bus and is not above PR stunts involving violence outside of octagon. UFC will also not pull charges, they want more fights of the undefeated champion for sure.
Khabib is absolute champion, superb grappling and in this fight he even demonstrated that his punching is better then that of McGregor too, that moment he mad McGregor fall from a punch showed his absolute superiority. As good as McGregor is Khabib is two levels above him and pretty much everyone he had fought previously too.
I obviously dislike the fact that Khabib is a Muslim, but on the other hand I like his untatooed, sober, pious, honorable persona as opposed to the tatooed drunk loudmouth, whiskey advertising Connor (whom I like anyway, because he is so amusing and surely has game). I think Khabib was more likely in control all this time, after all he did let go of Connor when judge said to do so, his post-fight move was most likely a stunt showing his agility in avoiding security guards and building reputation as a man taking his honor seriously. He will be forgiven with a slap on the wrist and will fight and win some more and his fights will make more money from now on.
I could see how an intellectual like you would see things that way... but Nah! Khabib ain't bout that Fake, stunt Pullin, WWE style talking shit just to talk shit type of Dude! If anybody would ask him to do that... he'd slap the shit outta them! Same with the Diaz Brothers! I've trained with Russians, and one of them was actually a former World Sambo Champion like Khabib... and these Dude don't Play Games Man! If you talk shit... you're gonna get it straight & simple. Them boys ARE willing to Die Over Respect Anyday! Khabib is exactly like the Diaz Bros... some street dude being professional fighters.
Notice how outside of Mcgregor, when other fighters talk shit about Khabib... they STICK to his fighting style... and don't say SHIT about nothing else! That's not by accident... cuz they know shit can Pop Off if they bring in his Religion, Country & All! And Khabib actually had no problem handling Conor... but it's that Mofo Dillon that everybody can't fucking stand! I've read about him talking shit... and even I would welcome the chance to slap the shit out of that fucking Rat Bastard! Oh I can't wait for someone in Bellator to Whip his Fucking Ass!
Khabib won in the octagon...the fight speaks louder than all the talk that clown brings up every time he is in front of a microphone. Connor did the same shit with Floyd and guess what? Lost. He comes again with his big talk and then? Lost! End of story!
Khabib won! Connor tapped! That's it!
Tony likely beats Khabib by TKO late. Conor likely stops Tony in the first. Conor fights Khabib again and probably loses. That said, if the athletic commission issues a ban there's gonna be a whole lot of butthurt when they sign Conor v Tony for the interim.
@Manic
I couldnt agree more. the members here must grow up and let go of their bias with regard to Islam. khabib is a sheer warrior who has humbled UFC's milk cow.
(10-08-2018 06:58 AM)Captain Gh Wrote: I could see how an intellectual like you would see things that way... but Nah! Khabib ain't bout that Fake, stunt Pullin, WWE style talking shit just to talk shit type of Dude! If anybody would ask him to do that... he'd slap the shit outta them! Same with the Diaz Brothers! I've trained with Russians, and one of them was actually a former World Sambo Champion like Khabib... and these Dude don't Play Games Man! If you talk shit... you're gonna get it straight & simple. Them boys ARE willing to Die Over Respect Anyday! Khabib is exactly like the Diaz Bros... some street dude being professional fighters.
Thank you, that is exactly what I think and that鈥檚 why I respect Khabib, the shit that happened wasn鈥檛 fake. I think in the pre fight meeting he said to McGregor something like: 芦聽you come for money, I come for honor聽禄.
The guy is extremely proud, Dana White used him at some point because McGregor and his opponent asked too much money for a fight, Dana then said 芦聽ok then Khabib will fight instead聽禄, he sent a contract to Khabib and finally McGregor accepted to fight for less money and his opponent too.
As a compensation Dana proposed Khabib to still pay him 100,000usd, Khabib answered 芦instead of the compensation, send me the best fighter you have聽禄. This guy ain鈥檛 faking, he has this attitude from ancient times where insulting a mom can get you killed.
I am afraid he will be completely overwhelmed by the mediatic circus that happened at the end of the fight ( and that he is responsible of).
To me he looked like King Kong on the top of the skycrapper, he is the purest and the strongest but lost in a world he doesnt belong to and gets killed at the end...
Khabibs image is totally fake. He is not some honorable pious Muslim he pretends to be. The guy is a vicious killer and comes from the most backwards part of Russia.
Damned shame the co main was overshadowed by the post fight melee. El Cucuy vs Showtime was one of the most acrobatic and entertaining fights in recent UFC memory.
Connor right now reminds me of Mike Tyson when he got mauled by Lennox Lewis. A guy at the end of his career, with nowhere to go.
Went too far with the trash talking before the fight (like Tyson against Lewis), got bashed by a more focused opponent (like Tyson against Lewis), and during the figuy said to Khabib "it was all just business". Tyson did the same shit afterwards, saying everything he said was to promote the fight.
Takes a special kind of pussy to say that during the fight though.
Looking at older fights, Connor came in out of shape (for him) and rusty as hell. How motivated is the guy to take another beating for $3 million when he made $75 million off the Mayweather fight?
(10-09-2018 03:36 AM)Rorogue Wrote: Connor right now reminds me of Mike Tyson when he got mauled by Lennox Lewis. A guy at the end of his career, with nowhere to go.
Went too far with the trash talking before the fight (like Tyson against Lewis), got bashed by a more focused opponent (like Tyson against Lewis), and during the figuy said to Khabib "it was all just business". Tyson did the same shit afterwards, saying everything he said was to promote the fight.
Takes a special kind of pussy to say that during the fight though.
(10-09-2018 03:56 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote: Looking at older fights, Connor came in out of shape (for him) and rusty as hell. How motivated is the guy to take another beating for $3 million when he made $75 million off the Mayweather fight?
That's just Conors salary, doesnt count his PPV cut which is where the real money is
Connor fucked up by talking shit about this mans religion, family and country. I know it's done for business and to hype up the entire fight, there's a huge amount of money on the line, and the rivalry skyrockets the viewer numbers. Connor puts on this persona as the cocky loudmouthed guy that is unstoppable, and it suits him, I find the guy funny, a great fighter, and also an entertainer. But at the same time, he crossed the line. It seems unprofessional to me the things he said, sounded very personal and disrespectful. Again, don't get me wrong it's good, it created this villain vs hero storyline where fans were involved like never before. When you're a big figure in the sport and insult a whole nation, you got to be ready to back it up if you don't want your reputation tarnished.
I enjoyed the fight, it was entertaining. Connor got into this unprepared in my opinion. He picked his comeback fight badly, money talked big time and he saw an opportunity. I genuinely don't think Connor got into this thinking he would win as easily as he preached he would. He's not hungry like previously in his career, fame, and money got to him and he got way too comfortable. 80% of the arena was Irish/Connor fans, what does that tell you?
Khabib is a monster, he's the underdog, he's hungry, he was 26-0 and undisputed coming into this fight (yeah sure he hadn't fought any big names, but he was rising so fast). He had everything to fight for, his career, future, and a nation of (144 million Russians) while Connor had nothing comparable to fight for. He had no motivation. He would get back home to his wife and kid with a shit ton of money and live the luxurious life all over again. I bet you my life he will still be preached as a king by his loyal fanboys, even after this loss, because he's a strong character you can't forget in the UFC scene. He brought a lot of attention to the sport. He's a business man.
Money changes people. Sure he worked hard for it, but seems like he has settled down now. Got way too comfortable.
^^ I see many talk about McGregor unprepared, already rich, not hungry, etc.
In my opinion Khabib is just a better fighter. Simple as that.
Unreletless pressure and stamina, world class grappling, simple but efficient striking, and a will of iron.
Khabib looked incredible. I knew this fight would never go the full five rounds (and if it did Conor would likely lose via decision), and the only way Conor could likely win would be on his feet. I was shocked Conor survived the ground and pound in round 2 or 3.
Just saw that Lewis and Cormier are now going to fight Nov. 3rd now....
You are fat, out of shape, shitty gas tank, skips leg day and you want to go fight a super fresh, uninjured, elite wrestler for the belt? IN ONE MONTH!?
I like Lewis, but based negro is gonna get his ass BEAT!
He could not get at least 2 months to get ready? Geeeez
(10-09-2018 04:23 PM)TravelerKai Wrote: Just saw that Lewis and Cormier are now going to fight Nov. 3rd now....
You are fat, out of shape, shitty gas tank, skips leg day and you want to go fight a super fresh, uninjured, elite wrestler for the belt? IN ONE MONTH!?
I like Lewis, but based negro is gonna get his ass BEAT!
He could not get at least 2 months to get ready? Geeeez
Chance of a lifetime to get the belt, and he has a punchers chance. I say he makes a good move going for it. He can come back stronger and in better shape later.
I don't understand guys that dodge others and stay inactive for months/years waiting for the chance of fighting for the belt. For example Belfort was almost two years whitout fighting since he won to Rich Franklin in 2009, waiting for his chance to fight Anderson Silva, while dodging other big fights that he could have made some money along the way, only to get that highlight crane kick on the face early in the fight..