Post: #26

Fisto is right. You really need a table in order to make the nightclub scene bearable. It's a 2-3 hour wait to get in the clubs. Once your there, it's extremely helpful to have a place to get drinks and a home base for your group.

Some of G's info on Vegas is now dated. The DJ scene there is completely different than 5 years ago. Music in nightclubs is mostly EDC and spectacular from what I saw the last couple of nights.

Skipping the pool scene is foolish. One of the easiest approaches is walking by a girl in a bikini that is chillin out IN the water. You HAVE to walk by slow because you're walking in water. It's also 100 degrees, so everyone is relaxed and going nowhere.

Post: #27

Here's an example budget for people to use as a reference, based on actual events last weekend.

Flight: From LA...used points on Southwest. Usually $200

Hotel: Bally's Friday and Saturday Night. $256 total.

Friday Night: Light Nightclub. Friend paid $100 to the doormen for two dudes to skip the line. 2 redbull vodkas were $40. I pack 3-4 mini liquor bottles in my pocket and order club sodas all night.

Saturday Day: The Beach Club at Wynn. Chipped in $400 to join some connects at a table. Even then it was hard to get through the line. The guys at the table had to send someone to let us in. They also searched my bag hard. Even lifted behind cell phone case.

Saturday Night: XS. $100 to skip the 3-hour line. Then $75 cover. Avecii DJ was playing.

That's what, $1,200 for 2 nights. Food and taxi's are on top of that. $100 in cabs and more in food.

Post: #28

Is there any point going to Vegas if you don't do the pool scene and you don't do the whole models and bottles thing at the club? (and you want to bang)

Post: #29

This is good stuff, I am going to Vegas in 3 weeks for the first time in about 10 years...

I just hate paying so much fukin money for those clubs. At 33, I start thinking about how many more things I can do with $200 besides "skipping" a line.

I'm bringing $1,500 in spending cash for 4 nights, I refuse to go over that unless I find a pussy made of diamonds....

Post: #30

(06-09-2013 03:05 PM)CaP7 Wrote:  I pack 3-4 mini liquor bottles in my pocket and order club sodas all night.

Where and how do you mix your drinks?

Post: #31

(06-09-2013 05:20 PM)Menace Wrote:  Is there any point going to Vegas if you don't do the pool scene and you don't do the whole models and bottles thing at the club? (and you want to bang)

Depends on where you live. If you're in a small city, Vegas provides scenes that you'll never see. i.e., restaurants, swarms of girls in high heels and miniskirts, world class DJ's 4 nights a week.

It's also a great place to go on vacation for just some plain old R&R. Luxury amenities and services are off the charts. (I've never used it for this, but always wanted to).

Post: #32

(06-09-2013 06:19 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

(06-09-2013 03:05 PM)CaP7 Wrote:  I pack 3-4 mini liquor bottles in my pocket and order club sodas all night.

Where and how do you mix your drinks?

Easy, just make sure you're not conspicuous. Bars are dark. I try to be smart about it. Sometimes I use the bathroom if I don't want the people I'm with to discuss it.

It's more comfortable if you're familiar with the bar.

I was unemployed/on sabbatical for two years without a solid income. There were a lot of $20 nights, which is difficult to do in CA.

Post: #33

(06-09-2013 05:27 PM)TheCaptainPower Wrote:  This is good stuff, I am going to Vegas in 3 weeks for the first time in about 10 years...

I just hate paying so much fukin money for those clubs. At 33, I start thinking about how many more things I can do with $200 besides "skipping" a line.

I'm bringing $1,500 in spending cash for 4 nights, I refuse to go over that unless I find a pussy made of diamonds....

At 35, I can't think of a better way to spend $200.

You'll notice that on Friday night at a "Tier 2" scene, it was only $100 for two dudes to skip the line. Well worth it. I will say, that when I was younger and with the right people, it was fun to stand in line for 90 minutes boozing with the people around us. We just took turns doing beer runs.

$600/day is easily doable if you don't gamble, go to strip clubs, or buy a table.

I threw in $400 to help with the table at The Beach Club on Saturday afternoon. Pretty sure the bill was pushing $4,000 with 8 guys. One of the guys was intent on going big and stepped up. Alternative was standing in line for 2 hours in 110 degree heat with no close source for drinks.

Post: #34

(06-09-2013 03:05 PM)CaP7 Wrote:  Here's an example budget for people to use as a reference, based on actual events last weekend.

Flight: From LA...used points on Southwest. Usually $200

Hotel: Bally's Friday and Saturday Night. $256 total.

Friday Night: Light Nightclub. Friend paid $100 to the doormen for two dudes to skip the line. 2 redbull vodkas were $40. I pack 3-4 mini liquor bottles in my pocket and order club sodas all night.

Saturday Day: The Beach Club at Wynn. Chipped in $400 to join some connects at a table. Even then it was hard to get through the line. The guys at the table had to send someone to let us in. They also searched my bag hard. Even lifted behind cell phone case.

Saturday Night: XS. $100 to skip the 3-hour line. Then $75 cover. Avecii DJ was playing.

That's what, $1,200 for 2 nights. Food and taxi's are on top of that. $100 in cabs and more in food.

Bro you went for all the biggest acts. Its going to be pricey. On big weekends, everywhere is packed. In fact, I would say its easier to pull from tier 2 spots than tier 1 on big weekends. Upping your lodging is a better bet. Lots of hot girls walking around in the lobbies, plus some possibility of skipping the line as a hotel guest.

Post: #35

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Bro you went for all the biggest acts. Its going to be pricey. On big weekends, everywhere is packed. In fact, I would say its easier to pull from tier 2 spots than tier 1 on big weekends. Upping your lodging is a better bet. Lots of hot girls walking around in the lobbies, plus some possibility of skipping the line as a hotel guest.
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Yeah, the reason I was there was more for networking purposes. I wasn't running the show. I'm pretty comfortable on both ends of the spectrum, although this is probably the highest I would go for a weekend in Vegas.

Regarding the upgrade in hotels. I paid $150/night total at Bally's, which is in the center of everything. Planet Hollywood was an option because it's closer to Cosmo and Aria. Walking distance with a bridge that connects. PH was $200/night. Aria was pushing $300.

The reason to upgrade hotels is definitely to be closer to hotter girls. The crowd at Bally's was very suspect. If you're looking for poor college girls, I met 4-5 that were staying at Treasure Island.

The pools ask to show a room key to get in, but it's pretty easy to make up an excuse to get past that. You just can't get towels...

Post: #36

Buy tickets on wanttickets.

i paid 80 bucks for avicii a few months ago..and that included getting in. Shorter line entrance too....maybe 20 min total.
Works for pool parties too. The worst thing is when you are TOO tied to your table. Many scenarios... but an example i hit the dance floor at a club and to walk around for 30 min and find that my dumbass friends let some bottle rats drink 2 bottles of vodka. I will not throw down more than 300 (usually i only drop 200) for a table for a night personally. If they want more I'll say lets go elsewhere. We all predrink so were already drunk walking in.

Tables are essential if you have more than 3 people...anything less you are better off just going without a table and working the club.

Also totally agree it's way easier to pull from tier 2 clubs. Hot clubs....girls (and guys) are there to show off and listen to edm artists to post on their Facebook walls.

If you plan ahead and be smart about it you don't have to bribe bouncers.

my philosophy is the less I spend the more times per year i can go.but I have it worked out well so I'm still in a good zone

Post: #37

(06-09-2013 05:27 PM)TheCaptainPower Wrote:  I just hate paying so much fukin money for those clubs. At 33, I start thinking about how many more things I can do with $200 besides "skipping" a line.

Contemporary Vegas = the marketing-induced hyped up starter's "fantasy" for young, inexperienced men with hard-saved cash to burn, but no real insight, chance or maturity to maximize the return on that cash elsewhere.

Post: #38

(06-09-2013 03:05 PM)CaP7 Wrote:  Here's an example budget for people to use as a reference, based on actual events last weekend.

Flight: From LA...used points on Southwest. Usually $200

Hotel: Bally's Friday and Saturday Night. $256 total.

Friday Night: Light Nightclub. Friend paid $100 to the doormen for two dudes to skip the line. 2 redbull vodkas were $40. I pack 3-4 mini liquor bottles in my pocket and order club sodas all night.

Saturday Day: The Beach Club at Wynn. Chipped in $400 to join some connects at a table. Even then it was hard to get through the line. The guys at the table had to send someone to let us in. They also searched my bag hard. Even lifted behind cell phone case.

Saturday Night: XS. $100 to skip the 3-hour line. Then $75 cover. Avecii DJ was playing.

That's what, $1,200 for 2 nights. Food and taxi's are on top of that. $100 in cabs and more in food.

@CaP7 - wow that sounds pretty [email protected] pricey for Vegas for 2 nights. I mean for just a little more you could shack up in Colombia or someplace in South America for a few days and have a better time with easier ladies, right? I love Vegas and all but try to contain my expenses when I'm there, but agree it can spiral out of control quickly, especially with $20 RedBull and vodka's. Ughhhh.

Also, maybe I am missing something but wondering why are you staying at Bally's? I always thought the rooms were sh*t and it's an awful crowd in a tired, old run-down casino hotel, but mabye they upgraded it like they did at TI? Aren't places like Mandalay, MGM, Mirage, TI, Caesars or even Paris just a tiny bit more pricey for a better room (or can't u use Hotwire to get a last-minute deal?). But maybe you have Bally's on lockdown or it's better than I thought.

In the past I have stayed at most of the big Strip hotels and found that the Hard Rock, while off strip with a bit of a questionable and younger crowd, has very nice rooms and great prices too (like $149/night weekends, $59 earlier in the week).

Post: #39

(06-09-2013 03:05 PM)CaP7 Wrote:  Bally's Friday and Saturday Night. $256 total.

Excalibur [with] a $20 food credit [costs only] $40.32, ... pretty sweet for a megaresort on the Strip.

Top Ten Values

(01-24-2012 12:27 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  It should be noted, that MGM will not really impress anyone.

Skyloft suite at MGM.

Post: #40

All these Vegas threads are just so wrong.

Burning $200 to skip the line and enter a club?!? That's starting negative and paying heftily just for a privilege to be able to approach women. And self-entitled bitches and airhead princesses at that.

Going to $$$ pool parties to be able to stand around with beefed up shirtless dudes with small heads and skinny legs holding a plastic cup with Coors light in it,, occasionally squirting a toy water gun at some college girl from the Valley.

Woo- hoo Vegas baby!

(06-10-2013 07:48 AM)Akula Wrote:  I mean for just a little more you could shack up in Colombia or someplace in South America for a few days and have a better time with easier ladies, right?

$600 daily lol. On that budget a player could literally make babies to Russian 8s and 9s in the middle of real Paris or Venice.

Post: #41

There was a post on ROK, which I am too lazy to link to, that claimed Vegas was without a doubt the easiest place in the US to bang. I'm just curious about the smart way to do it if you are not in the club promotion industry or are going with 8 dudes and buying a table (do any of those guys get laid anyway?)

I think the wisest spend of $ in Vegas is probably on a nice and well situated hotel. Other than that, the club stuff seems like it gives you the illusion of accomplishment and thinking you are a baller, but the ROI seems low, especially if you are not a regular of the scene.

Post: #42

(06-09-2013 03:05 PM)CaP7 Wrote:  Flight: $200
Hotel: $256 total.
$100 in cabs and more in food.

Nightclub... $100
2 redbull vodkas were $40.
Beach Club ... $400
XS. $100 to skip the 3-hour line. Then $75 cover.

That's what, $1,200 for 2 nights.

That's $556 for flight, lodging, taxis, food plus $715 for clubs, $1271 total.

Post: #43

Smartest way to do vegas....Go during the week and smash all the locals. Cost-effective, efficient, and pussy-effective. Friday and Saturday and big weekends is amateur-hour.

Afrojack, Aviici, PVD, Deadmau5 all come to Vegas during the mid-week as well. Thats MAYBE the only time I would go to Vegas for a big act.

^^^Why am I the only one who is saying this? The hype is pure BS. If I truly wanted to see Aviici spin, I would go to a giant concert stadium, not a club. I go to the club purely for sex and to hang w/the boys. Standing in fat lines and having to drop money to bouncers isn't a pre-requisite for a good night.

Post: #44

DVY, so like say Tues-Thurs, then fly out Fri?

Post: #45

Weds- Saturday. Nobody flies out of Vegas Saturday. You get cheap rooms from Tuesday-Thursday. Friday, you get 1 night of amateur hour (tourist girls), then fly home Saturday late afternoon. Come Monday you are A-OK for work.

Post: #46

(06-10-2013 10:14 AM)DVY Wrote:  ^^^Why am I the only one who is saying this? The hype is pure BS. If I truly wanted to see Aviici spin, I would go to a giant concert stadium, not a club. I go to the club purely for sex and to hang w/the boys. Standing in fat lines and having to drop money to bouncers isn't a pre-requisite for a good night.

I like the club because the fact that it is 21+ and costs money keeps the little annoying raver kids out. I can see most of these acts in LA too, but I like in Vegas everyone gets dressed up and its not as ghetto as going to some club in Hollywood.

Post: #47

I am with the haters here even though I got skewered on the last Vegas thread when I said this is too much money to spend. $1271 for two nights, might as well call it an even $1500 as most people will be flying in from farther away than LA. Just for comparison, I spent about $2000 for 9 days in the DR, in a mid range hotel, and I was not trying to pinch pennies.

Another thing to consider is spending this kind of money may tend to incentivize some of the poor female behavior we tend to rail against.

DVY seems to have a good game plan.

Anyone ever try pipelining locals? Doesn't seem like a great strategy, but just curious.

Post: #48

Yeah, but for us of that live quick strike distance (40 min flight), you can do a great vegas weekend without taking any time off work at all. you go there and are basically partying it up the ENTIRE time, from when you start drinking at the airport on the way there to about an hour before heading back to the airport on the way back home.

its just so easy to do versus some 2 week european or south american odyssey.

Post: #49

(06-10-2013 12:23 PM)LowerCaseG Wrote:  pipelining locals? Doesn't seem like a great strategy,

The whole point of Vegas is to meet other tourists with good logistics at a hotel on/near the strip. Locals avoid the traffic and go elsewhere. They will know you are not local.

(06-10-2013 10:50 AM)DVY Wrote:  Friday, you get 1 night of amateur hour (tourist girls), then fly home Saturday late afternoon.

I don't know what you are doing on other days if you are waiting until Friday to meet tourists. If your game only works in clubs then you are taking a lot of time off work to have only one effective night. Either learn to meet women on weekdays, or stay Saturday night to double your activity.

Post: #50

during the week, there are only a number of clubs that are "going off" so the prices to get into those are going to be like the weekends. outside of that, its kind of dead outside of the one or two clubs that are popular during that particular day.

locals go out every week, have a social circle, and are tougher to break into since..they go out every week. you have to go after the girl from the small town who doesn't go to vegas often on a girls weekend/bachelorette party and is looking to let loose. locals aren't looking to let loose, they're looking to make connections with other locals in the scene.

also there isn't much in the daytime going on at all on the weekdays versus the weekends.