Post: #1

There's a helplessly naive, rich beta who is, in his own words, "dating" an 8/10 Latina. The kid in question is cloyingly arrogant by nature, but he gets noticeably more tender when you ask him about the girl and exhibits hyper-beta behavior like setting her picture as the wallpaper on his iPhone.

Last Saturday, I saw her rolling into a bar with three big black dudes (he wasn't there), one of whom she dry-humped on the dance floor for part of the night. It was obvious she was cheating on him and would probably be getting her asshole fucked later that night while her boyfriend filled her inbox with desperate texts.

Now ignore morality for a minute. What I'm about to say might set off your sympathy-switch.

I don't like the guy who's getting cheated on, but I'd like to fuck his supposed "girlfriend." I don't know her personally, and I believe she might associate me with his betaness if I met him through her. At the same time, I was wondering what subtly calling her out on her infidelity while they are both together would do for my prospects. I'm not going to outright accuse her of cheating--I want to subtly suggest that she is, because it is obvious that the boyfriend is already very suspicious and clingy.

What would you guys do?

Post: #2

My rule is I look out for my boys , that's a select few I'd do anything for and I know they'd do the same for me and my family, everyone else is on their own. You get tied up in other peoples shit and it rarely turns out for the better for you so if you don't give a shit about this guy then go on with your life. If you want to make your move on her do it, in my book till there is a ring on her finger she's in play... if she wants to think you're beta so be it, show you're not when she actually meets you but keep out of the I saw this, I heard this shit cause it's not gonna help you with her, you don't care about him and in the end you piss off the wrong person and you could end up with unneeded drama.

Post: #3

He'll be better in the end if you tell him. Then again, if he's not a close buddy of yours, who cares?

Post: #4

Fuck that. Let people sort their own shit out.

Guy will probably rationalize her behavior. She'll lie to him. Unless you got direct physical proof, I'll bet she'll outmanuever you.

And you'll lost a friend because you didn't mind your own damn business.

Post: #5

If you don't care about this dude and if he's created the situation through beta behavior, it makes sense for you to somehow manipulate the situation in order to gain a potential edge with the girl.

Doesn't sound like he's a friend. I bet if you approach her about it without him around, you stand a decent chance of being one of the guys she's cheating on him with.

Post: #6

i say fuckem, unless hes your homie. and fuck her unless shes really that hot and you have absoloutely nothing else to hit up

Post: #7

Tell him. You probably have no chance of banging her. Tell him anonymously if you like (eg, fake email account). Citizen justice.

Post: #8

Let it play out and watch. You will learn more.

Post: #9

(10-19-2011 05:24 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Let it play out and watch. You will learn more.

There is nothing I could learn from this guy that the average dude didn't already learn in 11th grade.

I have decided to water the seeds of suspicion in his mind with a few indirect suggestions about his girlfriend. I will do this while she is in front of him for maximum hilarity.

Post: #10

(10-19-2011 05:28 PM)Batata Wrote:  

(10-19-2011 05:24 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Let it play out and watch. You will learn more.

There is nothing I could learn from this guy that the average dude didn't already learn in 11th grade.

I have decided to water the seeds of suspicion in his mind with a few indirect suggestions about his girlfriend. I will do this while she is in front of him for maximum hilarity.

Who said anything about the guy?

Post: #11

I was using "guy" as shorthand for "this guy and his entire situation."

Post: #12

Telling him will do nothing for your prospects. And if he is a hapless beta, he will not believe what you tell him.

Post: #13

(10-19-2011 05:48 PM)Batata Wrote:  I was using "guy" as shorthand for "this guy and his entire situation."

Watch the girl. Learn her game. If you cut it short you wont get the full effect. Play cool with her and bang her friends. If she think you know and can keep a secret her opinion of you will change and she might dish you some tail.

Post: #14

(10-19-2011 05:55 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(10-19-2011 05:48 PM)Batata Wrote:  I was using "guy" as shorthand for "this guy and his entire situation."

Watch the girl. Learn her game. If you cut it short you wont get the full effect. Play cool with her and bang her friends. If she think you know and can keep a secret her opinion of you will change and she might dish you some tail.

Interesting perspective and I'm glad you brought it up. I think a lot of whores see the humiliation of betas as an aphrodisiac. Think I might have to reconsider my first plan now...

Post: #15

(10-19-2011 05:58 PM)Batata Wrote:  

(10-19-2011 05:55 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(10-19-2011 05:48 PM)Batata Wrote:  I was using "guy" as shorthand for "this guy and his entire situation."

Watch the girl. Learn her game. If you cut it short you wont get the full effect. Play cool with her and bang her friends. If she think you know and can keep a secret her opinion of you will change and she might dish you some tail.

Interesting perspective and I'm glad you brought it up. I think a lot of whores see the humiliation of betas as an aphrodisiac. Think I might have to reconsider my first plan now...

Give it a try and let me know how it shakes out.
I've pulled this laid back move for years. It pays you back for life

Post: #16

Would you guys recommend I tell her that I know her boyfriend the next time I see her out without him? We don't know each other and since she's obviously a cheater, I was thinking I could just run my meager game on her as if she's single.

Post: #17

Dude don't bring up the guy, period.

Post: #18

(10-19-2011 08:18 PM)Gmac Wrote:  Dude don't bring up the guy, period.

Please don't! Wait watch smile

Post: #19

(10-19-2011 10:41 AM)Batata Wrote:  There's a helplessly naive, rich beta who is, in his own words, "dating" an 8/10 Latina. The kid in question is cloyingly arrogant by nature, but he gets noticeably more tender when you ask him about the girl and exhibits hyper-beta behavior like setting her picture as the wallpaper on his iPhone.

Last Saturday, I saw her rolling into a bar with three big black dudes (he wasn't there), one of whom she dry-humped on the dance floor for part of the night. It was obvious she was cheating on him and would probably be getting her asshole fucked later that night while her boyfriend filled her inbox with desperate texts.

Now ignore morality for a minute. What I'm about to say might set off your sympathy-switch.

I don't like the guy who's getting cheated on, but I'd like to fuck his supposed "girlfriend." I don't know her personally, and I believe she might associate me with his betaness if I met him through her. At the same time, I was wondering what subtly calling her out on her infidelity while they are both together would do for my prospects. I'm not going to outright accuse her of cheating--I want to subtly suggest that she is, because it is obvious that the boyfriend is already very suspicious and clingy.

What would you guys do?

Unless you're friend or family its really not your business. If she were setting him up for a carjacking,a mugging or a beatdown then its your duty as a decent human to intervene. In this case he'll simply unleash his angry frustrated passive aggressive betatude persona on-guess who?

Post: #20

Sure, if you want him to not believe you and hate you.

Post: #21

(10-23-2011 11:13 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Sure, if you want him to not believe you and hate you.

^^^Ding, ding, ding. We have a winning answer.

I watched a movie recently that kind of had this premise:

Post: #22

Seriously do NOT tell him and if he asks then feign ignorance. You tell him and there is a chance that he will call you liar for wanting to bang his girl. The other more likely possibility is that he will confront her, rat you out and then she will make up a story about you wanting to bang her and now you will be hated by both of them.

Betas will do whatever they can to keep the self-delusion of the "good girl" going.

Post: #23

(10-23-2011 05:32 PM)Easy E Wrote:  ^^^Ding, ding, ding. We have a winning answer.

I watched a movie recently that kind of had this premise:

This trailer pretty encapsulates what would happen you, right down to the gun being pointed at you and the cheating wife turning it around on your-ass, if you were to confront her. I'm with the crowd on this one: let it be. A beta with his head in the sand will continue to be a beta with his head in the sand.

The one (frankly crazy) alternative is something that my homie's brother had done to him once. Crazy story, in fact. He, literally, received an anonymous letter (in the fucking snail mail) with the story of his wife cheating on him, with specific details. Homeboy looked into the matter, confirmed some of the facts, and divorced his wife--although not before "trying to work things out" for a while. Had someone actually told him, the working-it-out period would have meant the end of that friendship. This way, no friendships were destroyed. The guy knew it was someone he knew, but never could figure out exactly who.

Any variation of this theme (e-mail instead of mail, pictures instead of text etc.) could work, if you're absolutely dead-set on saying something.

Post: #24

A man in love is often not receptive to hearing anything negative about his lady-love. He may accuse you of the shit chicks do to each other - if girlfriends AREN'T in relationships, deep down they're jealous of the girl in their group that DOES have a boyfriend. And given the opportunity, they'll tell her he's cheating and try to get her to break up with him so she'll be single again like the rest of them. Like Tuthmosis suggested, you'll need to show him solid proof (act truly conflicted when you do it) of her infidelity. That way he'll know you have his back and your only motivation is that you don't want to see him look like a chump.

Post: #25

If you care & he's close buddy. Drop him PICTURE PROOF anonymously. Else, stay out of it.