Post: #26

(05-17-2019 10:24 PM)scorpion Wrote:  The Left and Muslims each view the other as useful idiots. Leftists believe that once Muslims join the secular West they will drop their religious beliefs the same way that Christians did over the past few generations. And once that happens, the Left believes they will be just another dedicated non-white voting bloc supporting their policies. For their part, Muslims will gladly accept the political cover provided by the Left that allows them to immigrate en masse into Western countries and will pay lip service to Leftist platitudes about tolerance and getting along (see: Taqiyya). But once Islam reaches critical mass the Muslims will inevitably turn on their former benefactors and place the same demands on them that they do on everyone else: convert, die or pay the jizya. Essentially, each side believes the other will convert to their own beliefs at some point down the line. Both also share the primary objective of destroying white, Christian civilization (this being the greatest barrier standing in the way of each of their divergent utopian goals) and so have no issue working together as strange but temporary bedfellows. Islam and liberal globalism will fight it out to determine which will rule supreme as the one-world system prophesied to herald the end of days (are we there yet?). Shortly thereafter, whichever side comes out on top will be utterly shocked when they discover that Jesus Christ is not just a two-thousand year old meme and that he is quite displeased with them to boot (I might should have preceded that with a spoiler alert, apologies).

Perfectly well said. I have actually been in a few liberal social circles and they all believe that the all the Muslim people will start to follow some fag version of Islam. However they are all delusional because there have been Muslim communities since the 90s (e.g the Afghan and Somali communities that appeared due to their civil wars in the 90s) and their 3rd generation kids still follow the same Islamic practices; albeit now with some Hollywood rap now.

I would also add some further perspective. Every leftist individually believes this dogma that they will able to change every Muslim person and that they will completely change Western society. Whereas the left has major players behind the scenes trying to run things; Muslim groups do not have sort of figures (and if they exist they are very small players). The majority of Muslims who immigrate do not come with the aim to change western society and only come here for the generous welfare. Basically Leftists want to destroy western society but Muslim people inadvertently destroy western society. Islam is more of a cult then a religion and its only purpose is to spread through its followers. Its values go against most western teachings. In the end I feel like Islam will win since leftists do not reproduce at the rate at which Muslims do. Once Muslim numbers start to increase they will start to implement their own laws. Even if the leftist control all the monetary system; population itself is a power. This is the major reason Israel opposes the one state solution because they themselves would become a minority if this option was chosen

Post: #27

(05-20-2019 08:44 PM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  

(05-17-2019 10:24 PM)scorpion Wrote:  The Left and Muslims each view the other as useful idiots. Leftists believe that once Muslims join the secular West they will drop their religious beliefs the same way that Christians did over the past few generations. And once that happens, the Left believes they will be just another dedicated non-white voting bloc supporting their policies. For their part, Muslims will gladly accept the political cover provided by the Left that allows them to immigrate en masse into Western countries and will pay lip service to Leftist platitudes about tolerance and getting along (see: Taqiyya). But once Islam reaches critical mass the Muslims will inevitably turn on their former benefactors and place the same demands on them that they do on everyone else: convert, die or pay the jizya. Essentially, each side believes the other will convert to their own beliefs at some point down the line. Both also share the primary objective of destroying white, Christian civilization (this being the greatest barrier standing in the way of each of their divergent utopian goals) and so have no issue working together as strange but temporary bedfellows. Islam and liberal globalism will fight it out to determine which will rule supreme as the one-world system prophesied to herald the end of days (are we there yet?). Shortly thereafter, whichever side comes out on top will be utterly shocked when they discover that Jesus Christ is not just a two-thousand year old meme and that he is quite displeased with them to boot (I might should have preceded that with a spoiler alert, apologies).

Perfectly well said. I have actually been in a few liberal social circles and they all believe that the all the Muslim people will start to follow some fag version of Islam. However they are all delusional because there have been Muslim communities since the 90s (e.g the Afghan and Somali communities that appeared due to their civil wars in the 90s) and their 3rd generation kids still follow the same Islamic practices; albeit now with some Hollywood rap now.

I would also add some further perspective. Every leftist individually believes this dogma that they will able to change every Muslim person and that they will completely change Western society. Whereas the left has major players behind the scenes trying to run things; Muslim groups do not have sort of figures (and if they exist they are very small players). The majority of Muslims who immigrate do not come with the aim to change western society and only come here for the generous welfare. Basically Leftists want to destroy western society but Muslim people inadvertently destroy western society. Islam is more of a cult then a religion and its only purpose is to spread through its followers. Its values go against most western teachings. In the end I feel like Islam will win since leftists do not reproduce at the rate at which Muslims do. Once Muslim numbers start to increase they will start to implement their own laws. Even if the leftist control all the monetary system; population itself is a power. This is the major reason Israel opposes the one state solution because they themselves would become a minority if this option was chosen

The point about population is incredibly poignant. Good Post.

Post: #28

Just goes to show how little to do Liberals (social liberalism AND fiscal liberalism) have to do with traditional leftist thought (social modernisation BUT fiscal conservatism).

To see the blend of Islam and socialism, we can look at Syria, Nasser’s Egypt, Libya, Hussein’s Iraq and the former Afghanistan.

ALL these countries were attacked by the liberal West using Sunni nutcase proxy fighters and turned in to net migration sources or waypoints.

Social liberalism in the West has produced fertility death rates, destroyed socialist countries in the Middle East and has imported cheap labour and more fecund conservative wombs to replace the tombs that the abortionist West operates.

This can only be understood at the geopolitical level - not by thinking in the old Left - Right paradigm.