Post: #26

Kaotic is right . From a game tactic point of view deciding you want an LTR from the onset is a problem for a number of reasons.

First and foremost you are by definition invested on the outcome of the date because you want a relationship. That means a 2nd date, 3rd date, sex are objectives. This "want" is likely going to leaking into your game and even a lower SMV chick will be turned off by neediness . You probably dont realize it that it is, but girls are way more intuitively adept at any kind of "neediness" and its killing the attraction.

The last thing your ego needs is to be ghosted or curbed by some chick with lower SMV
(To Leonards point you should be working towards being a guy that is higher value than ALL PTU's)

My advice (just as Kaotic's): Take it one date at a time with no expectation beyond that;

Then,

If you bang a girl and you like and she like
- you bang again and if you like and she like
- you bang again and if you like and she like
- you bang again and if you like and she like
- you bang again and if you like and she like
- you bang again and if you like and she like
- you bang again and if you like and she like
-etc
-etc
...voile'...youre in a relationship

Every single LTR and mini LTR I ever had started out as me trying to bang that girl once. The relationship just developed organically in hindsight way more than in any foresight.

The approach above also provides the secondary benefit of largely removing the ethical question from the equation. Its just a quid pro quo: After all he's getting some of your meatsicle in exchange for some of her hooha. Fair deal. If additional terms are expected then they should be negotiated in advance.

If a girl however makes it clear that she's wanting a "relationship" and you know for a fact that you are not willing to give her one then Id suggest not banging her. Thats why nature created sluts. This is ESPECIALLY true if she's a virgin

Post: #27

^^PT getting down on the mechanics and breaking it down.

Fantastic stuff here!