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Introduction

I am fairly certain that there is no thread about this yet but it is an interesting subject given the size and scope of influence of the Catholic Church as an organization.

To be clear from the outset, I am not starting this thread to bash Catholics or Catholicism as a religion.

Essentially, I am starting this thread to see opinions about the somewhat shadowy civil war that is currently being waged within the Church and which has been going on for at least half a century now if not far longer. The two major parties taking part in the conflict are, on one side, those who wish to bring the Church back to a more conservative point in the past (most likely pre-Vatican II) and, on the other, those who can be described as comprising something like a gay mafia within the clergy which is so powerful that its members can quite literally get away with running what in every way appears to be an international child abuse ring. There is also much being uncovered now about abuses committed by nuns but I did not want to exceed five videos in this post. Information about that can be found through a web search.

The Catholic Church is still currently the single largest religious organization on the planet as well as being the wealthiest, though some believe that the Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) now competes with it for this title. There are Catholic universities and primary schools all over the world and priests stationed in virtually every country with the probable exceptions of North Korea (for obvious reasons) and the Peoples' Republic of China which only legally allows Catholic-style worship conducted by churches belonging to the Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association (CPA), which does not accept the primacy of the Roman Pontiff (which means it is not Roman Catholic) and is run directly by the Communist Party through its own Chinese bishops who have either been excommunicated by the Vatican or were never ordained by it in the first place. It is unknown to me how many underground Catholic priests there are operating in China outside of the CPA or whether they receive guidance and support from the Vatican. All this is to say that the importance of the Catholic Church and Catholicism globally is undeniable.

Personally, I am emotionally inclined toward Atheism but logically inclined toward Theism and I do think that religion is a necessary thing which no civilization can survive long without and that most if not all individuals, if deprived of it long enough, will eventually concoct or adopt some artificial and very often destructive religion of their own, such as Marxism or the Cult of Reason which was sponsored by the state during the French Revolution, and cling to it just as fanatically as a 1st century Judean zealot. That being said however, I am uncertain of the future of the Catholic Church in particular as an institution and, consequently, Roman Catholicism as a religion.

What do you all think?




The Videos

The content of the videos below provide, I think, a good foundation for discussion. All of these videos are from Church Militant. That channel and the website by the same name have much more than what I have included here. If you are interested in looking more into this issue, they are worth checking out.


1. This interview covers many fascinating topics from lesbians controlling the media to Pope Francis. It is worth listening all the way through if you have time. In this interview, which I believe may be his first in quite some time, Milo also talks about his own now infamous encounter in his early teens with a priest.




2. Apparently, at least 10% of priests worldwide are gay and up to 50% of all priests in the Vatican are gay. It is believed by many, including myself, that the gay culture is the dominant culture within the Catholic priesthood globally and most especially in Western countries. It seems that the Church has been subverted and overtaken from within in much the same way that academia has been.




3. A gay seminarian (priest in training) leaves the seminary and blows the whistle not because he was upset with the gay activity he witnessed but because he was upset by the hypocrisy of the gay priests refusing to come out publicly and ruin good thing they have going.




4. The title is self-explanatory. The conspiracy runs very deep.




5. The South American Gay Seminarian Pipeline through which gay South American men were actively recruited and funneled into seminaries in the US. Some of them were and are known serial child abusers. This case goes very deep and many people were involved.

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We need to get rid of that globohomo Argentine fake Pope and install a true shit lord, I like the Guinean Robert Sarah who is on record saying he’s had enough of the queers and Muslim invasion of Europe.

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I wouldn't call it a civil war, more of a resistance movement. The pervs are running the show, have been for a long time.

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Novus Ordo was a mistake, and the beginning of the end.

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Stalin actively pushed gays from Moscow into the priesthood in an effort to destroy the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. The gay subculture was deliberately engineered by Satanic (((Bolshevism))). E. Michael Jones is a great source for historical information on this subject.

"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

Matthew 16:18

The gates of hell shall not prevail. You mentioned a civil war but you only mentioned one side in the war. There is a remnant of the old church which has struggled against modernism and the errors of the post-Vatican II hierarchy. Research Archbishop Marcel Levebvre and the SSPX if you want a glimpse of the future of the Church.

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The paradox of my Holy Mother the Catholic Church is that most of the faithful are right-wing while most of the clergy is leftist. But there is hope, because thanks to the decline of vocations, up to 25% of parish curates in Europe are now from Sub-Saharan Africa, and conservative. Cardinal Sarah from Guinea would be a great Pope to re-evangelize Europe.

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Article (reuters dated MAY 25, 2018):
Pope tells bishops not to accept gay seminarians: report

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis warned Italian bishops this week to vet carefully applicants to the priesthood and reject anyone they suspected might be homosexual.

“Keep an eye on the admissions to seminaries, keep your eyes open,” the pope was quoted as saying by newspaper La Stampa’s Vatican Insider service. “If in doubt, better not let them enter.”

In a 2005 document, released under Francis’s predecessor Pope Benedict, the Vatican said the Church could admit into the priesthood those who had clearly overcome homosexual tendencies for at least three years.

But it said practicing homosexuals and those with “deep-seated” gay tendencies and those who support a gay culture should be barred.

Article: Understanding Pope Francis’ controversial remarks on homosexuality in the priesthood

Pope Francis remarked that:

• that gay priests who cannot maintain their vows of celibacy should leave the priesthood rather than live “double lives,”
• advises against admitting gay men into seminaries if their homosexuality is “deep seated”
• and suggests that a societal perception of homosexuality as “fashionable” has permeated Catholic culture.
  

The pope’s comments have provoked consternation among previous admirers, who worry that he is walking back the more pastoral approach to L.G.B.T. .... Is this the same guy who asked, “Who am I to judge?” in deflecting questions about a gay priest in 2013?

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The current pope may be politically correct in his words,
but his actions(ideology) remain FUNDAMENTALLY Catholic.

If you are the leader of 1.2 Billion people,
sometimes you have to play the 'game'

And to reiterate Ghost Tiger: "the gates of hell shall not prevail"

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(01-23-2019 01:27 AM)Waqqle Wrote:  I am fairly certain that there is no thread about this yet but it is an interesting subject given the size and scope of influence of the Catholic Church as an organization.

DUPE!!!

j/k

There was one of mine already which I think would have been appropriate but the focus is obviously shifting and this is probably a better theme.

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The fact that the previous Pope still lives is highly unusual.

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I'm not really surprised about the gay influence in the Church though we have to remember Pope Francis is a Jesuit. They are the most liberal faction of the Catholic Church. He is a bishop from South America who probably drank a little too much of the Liberation Theology Kool-Aid after seeing what happened in Argentina with it's military rule.

Wasn't there also some revelation that the Vatican or some Catholic institution in Rome watches the most transsexual porn? I seem to recall that once.

I was finishing high school when the 2002 scandal came out of the priest abuse and wasn't really surprised at all for some reason.

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This doesn't surprise me at all. Before homosexuality was an open thing, an alternative life style was to serve in the catholic church one way or another. My dad went to catholic school and he came across a few questionable monks. One would actually go about spanking his students to get his homo boner on.

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(01-23-2019 08:21 AM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  Stalin actively pushed gays from Moscow into the priesthood in an effort to destroy the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. The gay subculture was deliberately engineered by Satanic (((Bolshevism))). E. Michael Jones is a great source for historical information on this subject.

"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

Matthew 16:18

The gates of hell shall not prevail. You mentioned a civil war but you only mentioned one side in the war. There is a remnant of the old church which has struggled against modernism and the errors of the post-Vatican II hierarchy. Research Archbishop Marcel Levebvre and the SSPX if you want a glimpse of the future of the Church.

Nice to see you back Ghost Tiger! You’re a solid poster, hope to see you around more