Post: #51

5G has a very small line of sight at those frequencies 28 - 30 Ghz. The 6 Ghz stuff is much slower so not worth bothering with. I wouldn't worry about it. I suppose you believe in global warming too

Post: #52

(01-12-2019 09:54 PM)Avoy Wrote:  Curious: Am I the only one who walks around with his outdated phone in Airplane Mode? I use my smartphone mainly for messaging and getting information. Never been a fan of always being available. I check and respond to messages on my timetable. And I rarely ever make or take phone calls. Side benefit: no location tracking or cell radiation while the phone sits in your pant pocket (as far as I'm aware) and you can still use it to quickly check the time and receive any reminders or alarms (so better than turning the phone completely off).

Post: #53

(01-27-2019 05:39 AM)firat113 Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 09:54 PM)Avoy Wrote:  Curious: Am I the only one who walks around with his outdated phone in Airplane Mode? I use my smartphone mainly for messaging and getting information. Never been a fan of always being available. I check and respond to messages on my timetable. And I rarely ever make or take phone calls. Side benefit: no location tracking or cell radiation while the phone sits in your pant pocket (as far as I'm aware) and you can still use it to quickly check the time and receive any reminders or alarms (so better than turning the phone completely off).

This is insane! Thanks for sharing the video. Good description of Google's business model: "Surveillance Capitalism". This is one of the reason I've been hesitant to switch to Android. It seems if you're privacy focused, iOS is the better alternative of the big two.

Post: #54

How do you know that Apple is not tracking you? The only way to go around it is to use something like Purism.

Post: #55

(01-27-2019 08:03 AM)AntoniusofEfa Wrote:  How do you know that Apple is not tracking you? The only way to go around it is to use something like Purism.

I'm keeping an eye on Purism's Librem 5: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/

It's still not out yet -- ETA: 4/19. Would be nice if it had an Android App compatibility layer. Everyone who uses this will have to settle for HTML5 mobile web apps if they want to have anything similar.

But, yeah, this will definitely be one of the most secure phones on the market when it comes out.

Post: #56

David Icke makes some points between 15:00 - 20:00
- Operates in milimeter waves, requiring little boxes on the lamp post all over pumping out these waves.
- They are pushing this 5G hard, before we know what it is
- The communication/surveillance industry will only be strengthened, whether it be china or the ((USA))
- No independent research on 5G health effects.
- Urban Trees are being cut down because 5G doesn't like their solidity and old wise tree energy

Post: #57

As someone whose worked in the field of EM for years, I wanted to chime in on some posts that struck me as inaccurate or needed clarification.

(01-10-2019 09:03 PM)void Wrote:  You are bathing in photons with different wavelengths right now. Reading this text, photons enter your eyes and do shit. *BOOM*
The wifi signal of your router and all the other routers do this all the time right now. The only difference with 5G is wavelength and may be intensity/power.
Wavelength is hard to be respecified after 5G is installed, but power and exposure dosis may be reduced by a tighter mesh of base stations.

This is a a red herring. Yes, we are being bathed in photons naturally. But dismissing the potential harmful effects of 5G, an artificial form of EM radiation that the human body has never previously been exposed to, simply because it's a form of EM radiation is flawed. Paracelsus already beautifully demonstrated why, but to add a point: We've been exposed to sunlight for the existence of our species, but it is still a known carcinogen at high enough exposures.

There are other important differences between 5G and naturally occurring EM radiation. Namely, they are:
1) Polarization. Modern EM signals meant for data transmission typically use circular polarization. This allows them to be picked up regardless of the orientation of the receiving antenna.

2) Waveform. As far as I know, 5G will remain a digital signal (code-delimited multiple access), which utilizes a square wave, as opposed to naturally occuring signals which typically follow sinusoidal waves.


For sinusoidal waves at a given frequency, the slew rate (how fast the wave amplitude switches from a trough to a peak) is relatively low. Compare this to square waves, where the slew rate for an ideal square wave is infinite. For molecules which are sensitive to changes in charge direction, this could potentially have dramatic effects.

3) Intensity for a given frequency. In order to be received, EM signals must be distinguished from the ambient EM environment. Therefore, they must be more intense than the other EM radiation at their transmitting frequency, otherwise the signal will be undetectable. As such, these signals are inherently additive on top of the pre-existing natural EM environment. This is particularly interesting for frequencies that experience very low intensity naturally.

(01-10-2019 10:10 PM)Sherman Wrote:  The infrared radiation that your own body radiates 24/7 is still shorter in wavelength than 5G. As Plank proved, the energy to emit an electron and thus ionize an atom is proportional only to the frequency of the radiation and not the power. Microwaves don't have high enough frequency to ionize atoms and thus create mutations. Ultimately, the only way you can determine if there is any other danger is through an empirical scientific investigation.

Is the question whether electromagnetic radiation is only harmful if it is ionizing? Microwave ovens are not ionizing. But if you were to put your pet kitten in one and set it to 20 minutes, Fluffy might not make it through (please do not attempt this). Now imagine 24/7 exposure, instead of 20 minutes. Now, I doubt 5G is as dangerous as being fried in a microwave oven, but the point is that EM radiation doesn't have to be ionizing in order to be harmful to us.

Possible concerns
It appears as though 5G is not harmful regarding ionization or heating. On the plus side, its amplitude should be relatively low. However, that does not mean it is harmless.

The fact of the matter is, we don't really know if it's harmless or not. And we're rapidly reaching a point where everyone on the planet will be bathed in 5G radiation to the point where we won't have a control population to compare and contrast its effects.

One of the things that concerns me is that the studies used to justify its safety seem specifically designed to return benign results. Organic chemists and engineers are some of the brightest people out there-- it seems strange that they'd produce such obviously flawed methodologies unless they were trying to manufacture a desired outcome.

They also seem to focus too much on aspects that they know will return negative results (ionization and heating), rather than focusing on a broader survey of measures. To use an analogy, it's like saying DDT is safe because it doesn't burn the skin. Asbestos was perfectly safe, until it wasn't. Just like dozens of others that were rolled out on the unsuspecting populace.

Some unique characteristics that set artificial EM radiation apart from natural radiation are its waveform, its polarization, and its intensity for a given frequency. If the main frequency band it operates with doesn't have much naturally-occurring radiation in it, our bodies might not be properly adapted to dealing with it.

Nervous system
Our central nervous system is very sensitive to changes in electrical and chemical activity in various ways. Our bodies contain billions of neurons that respond to these changes. Electrolytes are charged particles that affect everything from our organ function to our very ability to breath. Our body is made up mostly of water, which itself is a polarized molecule. The electromagnetic environment our bodies are subject to can have a profound effect on our health.

Circadian rythm
The Earth is largely protected from solar and interstellar radiation from the Van Allen radiation belts, and the ionosphere. These two systems ensure that the intensity of radiation which reaches the Earth's surface is greatly reduced. When it is night time, the level of solar radiation (and strength of the ionosphere) drops as it is no longer being (directly) bombarded from solar radiation.

Our pineal gland is sensitive to these changes in radiation, perhaps even beyond just changes in the visible spectrum. Normally, all radiation levels drop during night. However, 5G is constantly on, and would maintain its intensity regardless of whether its day or not.

Cognition
Our neurons operate on a frequency of 0-200Hz. From what we understand of the electrical activity of the brain, cognition tends to occur mainly at frequencies of (5-8 Hz), (9-12 Hz), (14-28 Hz), and (40-80 Hz).


Seeing as 5G radiation occurs at frequencies much, much higher than this, it should be obvious to see how 5G signals are well beyond the frequency required to possibly disrupt electrical signalling provided they can penetrate to the blood brain barrier.

Electrochemical signalling
Signals that are of higher frequency than the receiver's resolution cannot be properly measured by the receiver. This is called aliasing in signal processing. This is important to understand, as our neurons are essentially electrical receivers operating a maximum resolution of 200Hz.

Imagine that a neuron responds to a biochemical signal that changes once every 50 times per second. Now imagine that on top of that signal, you introduce another signal that changes once every 500 million times per second. The one that changes much faster will disrupt the signal to the point where the signalling will become useless to the neuron. To visualize this, see the image below.


In the image above, it shows that the more points (higher resolution) you're able to measure, the more closely you can measure the signal. If you can only measure 200 points in a second, but the signal is changing 500 million times a second, the desired signal wouldn't reach the receiver.

To me, this would be the main concern we need to prove or disprove with artificial EM radiation. I have a few threads I want to pursue on other topics, but eventually I'd like dig more deeply into the subject. While it may not burn us or ionize us, it may have the ability to disrupt the normal biochemical signalling processes within our bodies.

Post: #58

Even assuming it's completely safe from a physical health point of view, people are already neurotic and antisocial with 4G, imagine what will happen when it's even faster.

I really need to get my turnip farm running far away from this nonsense - and SamB, I forgot to answer on the Yang thread, but you're more than welcome to join when you need to escape the 5G zombies

Post: #59

(05-02-2019 07:41 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  Even assuming it's completely safe from a physical health point of view, people are already neurotic and antisocial with 4G, imagine what will happen when it's even faster.

I really need to get my turnip farm running far away from this nonsense - and SamB, I forgot to answer on the Yang thread, but you're more than welcome to join when you need to escape the 5G zombies

The social impact of 5g is hard to predict. For example it would allow Chinese government officials to follow the movements in real time of Chinese citizens anywhere in the world, and to interfere. Imagine reaching out to get a hot dog in Argentina and you hear your Cellphone squawk: "Don't eat that hot dog Guao Zing! If you do we'll put your wife in jail!"

Another example: no lag time means real time control of drones anywhere in the world from NSA headquarters in Washington DC.

Does anyone here understand the latency of 5g really well, enough to explain how this works?

Post: #60

(05-02-2019 10:17 AM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 07:41 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  

The social impact of 5g is hard to predict. For example it would allow Chinese government officials to follow the movements in real time of Chinese citizens anywhere in the world, and to interfere. Imagine reaching out to get a hot dog in Argentina and you hear your Cellphone squawk: "Don't eat that hot dog Guao Zing! If you do we'll put your wife in jail!"

Another example: no lag time means real time control of drones anywhere in the world from NSA headquarters in Washington DC.

Does anyone here understand the latency of 5g really well, enough to explain how this works?

Why are you just talking about the chineese government brah. It's coming our way too. The US government spying program will be like never before.

Post: #61

Trump is pushing the 5G mind control agenda. He will win 2020 as swing states were devised in 1992 to make it easier for the elites to manipulate the sheep. Swing states are just another...wait, forgot what they call those. Trump was chosen to fulfill prophecy & he's doing what they tell him. Biden has only entered the race for feigned realism since the other democratic candidates obviously have zero political clout.

As usual, this forum will take the stance of: "Orange man Good"

WAKE UP RED PILL

Post: #62

(05-02-2019 02:28 PM)quantum Wrote:  Trump is pushing the 5G mind control agenda. He will win 2020 as swing states were devised in 1992 to make it easier for the elites to manipulate the sheep. Swing states are just another...wait, forgot what they call those. Trump was chosen to fulfill prophecy & he's doing what they tell him. Biden has only entered the race for feigned realism since the other democratic candidates obviously have zero political clout.

As usual, this forum will take the stance of: "Orange man Good"

WAKE UP RED PILL

Will no one grant me solace from quantum?

Post: #63

There is a German company that manufactures various products that create a Torus field of electrons that protects living matter from the effects of EMF, including 5G technology. Just today, I watched a fascinating video on the dangers of 5G technology, which discussed the technology behind these products.

https://qi-technologies.com/en/shop/

The technology is based on the (relatively) recently discovered Fourth Phase of Water, also known as EZ Water, Structured Water, or Living Water. It is not H2O but H3O2. It’s more viscous, dense, and alkaline than regular water. It has a negative charge and can hold energy, much like a battery, and the water can deliver that energy, too. You can read the book "The Fourth Phase of Water: Beyond Solid, Liquid, and Vapor," by Dr. Gerald Pollack.

Many of the cells in our body consist of EZ Water. Many of the miracle healing waters throughout the world (e.g., those that flow from a spring in the Grotto of Massabielle in the Sanctuary of Our Lady of Lourdes, France) possess the properties of EZ water. The Fourth Phase of Water is worthy of its own thread. If you wish to do your own research, you can start here:

Quote:You already know that water can have three states of matter: solid, liquid and gas. But scientists at the Oak Ridge National Lab (ORNL) have discovered that when it's put under extreme pressure in small spaces, the life-giving liquid can exhibit a strange fourth state known as tunneling.

https://newatlas.com/fourth-state-of-water/42999/


You can use your cell phone or Wi-Fi within the electron field created by these products. The electrons in the Torus field force the EMF to bounce off your body (rather than your body absorbing the EMF), so that you do not incur the health detriments of the EMF.

Post: #64

(05-02-2019 10:27 AM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 10:17 AM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(05-02-2019 07:41 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  

The social impact of 5g is hard to predict. For example it would allow Chinese government officials to follow the movements in real time of Chinese citizens anywhere in the world, and to interfere. Imagine reaching out to get a hot dog in Argentina and you hear your Cellphone squawk: "Don't eat that hot dog Guao Zing! If you do we'll put your wife in jail!"

Another example: no lag time means real time control of drones anywhere in the world from NSA headquarters in Washington DC.

Does anyone here understand the latency of 5g really well, enough to explain how this works?

Why are you just talking about the chineese government brah. It's coming our way too. The US government spying program will be like never before.

At least in China if you're Chinese and support the motherland then you're fine.

Ten or twenty years from now it doesn't matter how patriotic a straight, white christian male is in America. He's still going to be on the shit list for special treatment by his government.

The Chinese are far better off. At least their country is still Chinese.

Anyway, I'm hearing a lot about satellites but will hicks like me out in the sticks be less affected by this?

Post: #65

A huge problem is that with 5G b/c of the higher frequencies they essentially have to locate 5g stations every few blocks. That opens up a tremendous possibility for surveillance.

There is the obvious concern that the Chinese will run our 5g infrastructure, of course. But there is another concern, even more radiation, with little to no research done on the long-term effects. Telecoms are essentially the new big tobacco. Given the fact they've been suppressing cell cancer data for years, and continually trying to discredit research by saying there's "tenuous" or no cancer links. Especially with brain/head-linked cancers

Post: #66

Well aware it's just a meme or at least, not the whole story. Yet hardly comforting...

Post: #67

Post: #68

(05-14-2019 10:27 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Well aware it's just a meme or at least, not the whole story. Yet hardly comforting...

Is that a radiation suit? If it’s any type of ionizing radiation other than alpha particles then a thin Tyvek suit won’t do much, he may be wearing it for other reasons such as protection from chemicals or grease in equipment.

Radiation: the only time beta penetrates more than alpha

Post: #69

Double post

Post: #70

(05-15-2019 12:20 AM)scotian Wrote:  Double post

Double Shot:

   

Definitely safer than 5G.

Post: #71

(05-15-2019 12:09 AM)scotian Wrote:  

(05-14-2019 10:27 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Well aware it's just a meme or at least, not the whole story. Yet hardly comforting...

Is that a radiation suit? If it’s any type of ionizing radiation other than alpha particles then a thin Tyvek suit won’t do much, he may be wearing it for other reasons such as protection from chemicals or grease in equipment.

Radiation: the only time beta penetrates more than alpha

Yeah that's an RF suit, but lotsa guys working in towers wear them. It has a copper or stainless steel mesh in it, i believe. Its also flame retardant.

I'm a little more concerned about the palm tree growing out of the tower. Maybe that's how the deep state and the jews are hiding the 5G. Camoflage that shit.

Aloha!