Post: #1

Will graduate in summer 2019 with a masters age 23.
No real debt (UK student loans are more like tax and only taken as a % of income when working)
Enough saved money to survive about 2 years with an average lifestyle even if I didn't earn anything in mean time.

I want to learn Spanish so planning to move from the UK to either South/Central American Country or to Spain.

My plan is to do 6 months teaching English part time to see if I enjoy doing it long term as I have volunteered for a short time before and though it was rewarding. Not as a career but as a hobby while working the rest of my "working hours" on my online business ideas.
I have no desire to have a corporate job unless health/family issues force me to have security (so far things seem good). The rest of the time I want to improve my social skills, game and learn new skills (jitsu, latin dancing, public speaking - Toastmasters, etc).

However, my main goal remains to fast track the improvement of my social and game skills. I'm wondering if you guys may have other suggestions that may be better options given that I'm in a comfortable position financially for a while.

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TL;DR 23 year old wants to move to a Spanish speaking country and expand my skills with large focus on game. Advice on life appreciated.

Post: #2

If I could go back in time to my early 20s, I'd focus on improving my looks and game. I'd travel and go on adventures instead of working my ass off.

I focused on my career and in retrospect that was the wrong choice. I'm marginally better off than most of my friends now, but it doesn't matter. What would have been the right choice? Banging more young girls.

You're on the right track. Get on a workout program and start doing BJJ if you can. Teaching English abroad sounds like a great plan.

Post: #3

Travel the world and have sex with as many girls as possible...collect flags

Post: #4

(12-25-2018 06:26 PM)Super Average Man Wrote:  If I could go back in time to my early 20s, I'd focus on improving my looks and game. I'd travel and go on adventures instead of working my ass off.

I focused on my career and in retrospect that was the wrong choice. I'm marginally better off than most of my friends now, but it doesn't matter. What would have been the right choice? Banging more young girls.

You're on the right track. Get on a workout program and start doing BJJ if you can. Teaching English abroad sounds like a great plan.

Im traveling the world at 28, do you think is old?

Post: #5

(12-25-2018 06:26 PM)Super Average Man Wrote:  If I could go back in time to my early 20s, I'd focus on improving my looks and game. I'd travel and go on adventures instead of working my ass off.

I focused on my career and in retrospect that was the wrong choice. I'm marginally better off than most of my friends now, but it doesn't matter. What would have been the right choice? Banging more young girls.

You're on the right track. Get on a workout program and start doing BJJ if you can. Teaching English abroad sounds like a great plan.

Yep. I became a workaholic in my 20's because I thought success and money would make me happy. I made a lot of money, and eventually got a steady, high-paying job (over $100K US/year). BUT, I am 35 now and have had some serious chronic health problems that started a year ago, unrelated to my job. So basically I have more money than I know what to do with (I will be a millionaire in a few years), but my health is already gone and I'm single, don't even have the desire to do the work to find my NAWALT now.

You may have many good years, you may not. A lot of life is luck and there is no guarantee of what tomorrow will bring. There is always more money to make, but other things you only get once in life. If you are a single man, you really don't need much money anyways. Just look at Roosh V. He says a lot of wise things, and a big one is that nothing outside yourself will bring you happiness.

I was happier when I was a 22 year old virgin with no education, a face full of acne, jerking off and playing computer games in my parents basement. Life's a bitch.

OP:don't do what I did.

Post: #6

^^35 is still a young age. Hope your health improves. Cheer up, buddy

Tomorrow will be a new day, don't dwell on the past too much

Post: #7

Depends on your plans.

I need one more promotion before I might go off and screw off for a bit -- I can always come back to get a new role and it pays 250k (or more( a year. Pretty much was my plan after college.

So far only a few years out of college and over 100k.

If you want to be a banker/consultant/doctor/lawyer etc you pretty much have to start your career now or fairly soon (maybe not so much for law).

If you don't care too much and not looking to work a super competitive career path, i'd say you're safe screwing off for a few years and/or trying your hand at internet biz.

The corporate jobs aren't going anywhere -- and except for those who make it in online biz are where most end up.

Post: #8

Those poor ripped off UK public overpaid for the "masters" because clearly you will never pay for it with your dreams of trying latin dancing. And I still think you are a troll.

(06-29-2018 12:13 AM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  Go away stupid troll

(06-05-2018 08:43 AM)coffeedrinker Wrote:  - ...

- 2 Mutual friends (Gay guy couple) from social circle arrive 1hr later and suggest we go to a house party.

- At house party I don't really know anyone but was initially speaking to few of the hosts etc just trying to be social.
- Later, me and 1 of the gay friends sat on a sofa outside in garden and 4 random girls sat around us.
- Chatted for a while and then my friend left me with them.
- Decided to go for one of the girls that seemed most responsive
- Told her I've ran out of alcohol and if she wanted to continue drinking back at mine
- She agreed and we left, though I didn't really get a chance to say goodbye to the people I was with originally but they saw me leave with her
-Got last minute resistance from the girl I left with so nothing happened ( I fucked up logistics again which didn't help but tbh I don't really understand why she agreed to leave with me, as soon as we were out of the house she turned stone cold to me and I genuinely think my chat was ok)

- The next morning, had an activity planned with the social circle including the girl I was msging and gay couple but they ignored my msgs.


...

Post: #9

Get a job and throw yourself into it. Work is going to become more competitive in the future.

The alternative you’re proposing is to spend your savings and go faff about for 2 years with no real plan.

What you’d be at the end if that period is a broke, jobless bum with no experience. Hardly a good standpoint to negotiate from with an employer, or a woman. You’d be up
Against recent graduates and appear unreliable by comparison.

Better to get experience and have some options. At the moment you din’t Need a holiday, you need to knuckle down and make something of yourself IMO.

Post: #10

To the other people that suggested improve your game, for a young man, the best way to improve your game is to start earning, gaining experience and practice developing your social skills on the side.

Take it from an older guy, you will never have more energy than you do now and you don’t realise until it goes. You could work 80 hour weeks, including a full time job and all your fancy ideas that probably won’t work out in your spare time. Get focused, at the moment, it reads as non-conmittal.

Post: #11

ESL is a good field if you want to stay abroad. That’s why I like it. Which Spanish-speaking country do you want to move to? I just spent 3 months in Colombia and another month in Mexico. I’d say that, in Latin America, the best salaries for an ESL teacher are most likely going to be in Colombia, Brazil, and Chile, though it is important to factor cost of living when deciding where to take a job. Generally speaking, Latin America does not pay very well for ESL teachers but it doesn’t cost much to live there either (except Costa Rica) so you can still afford to live well and you can save some if you have a side hustle.

Fuck working your way up the corporate ladder in an Anglo country. You’re gonna lose all that wealth in the divorce and/or when the government runs out of money and comes up with some new oppressive tax that renders your hard work and planning pointless. Like Hypugamy said, being higher up on the ladder won’t necessarily make you happier and your position will only become increasingly more tenuous over time as more and more laws get put in place to make it easier for you to be caught up on something nonsensical and replaced with a more maliable female or member of some other protected group. I’m not saying don’t earn and gain professional experience. I’m saying that you don’t necessarily have to do that at home.

If you want specific ESL industry advice, feel free to PM me. As for life in general, read Enjoy the Decline by Aaron Clarey (the principles in it apply just as much to Brits as they do to Americans), unplug yourself from the Matrix, and live according to your principles, not just according to what some out of touch Baby Boomer tells you is going to pay off for you in the long run as he wraps up that phone call with that attorney he hired to deal with the attorney that the vile succubus who once promised in front of all her family and friends before the altar of her supposed God to love and honor him hired to ensure that he never spends a full day with his children again and that they are raised to resent him before driving his debt wagon to his divorced guy apartment to open up that letter from his company informing him that he has been let go due to a budget cut (and only 2 weeks before hitting the 20-year mark to get his pension. Dang, imagine that!).

Maybe you can even immigrate and become a citizen in a Latin American country, start a new life for yourself, and work your way up the economic ladder there while you improve your Spanish, dance salsa on the roof of your apartment building with your curvy mestizo girlfriend, and forget to give a crap about what your peers back in Blighty are doing or thinking of you at that moment.

Post: #12

(12-25-2018 06:26 PM)Super Average Man Wrote:  If I could go back in time to my early 20s, I'd focus on improving my looks and game. I'd travel and go on adventures instead of working my ass off.

I focused on my career and in retrospect that was the wrong choice. I'm marginally better off than most of my friends now, but it doesn't matter. What would have been the right choice? Banging more young girls.

You're on the right track. Get on a workout program and start doing BJJ if you can. Teaching English abroad sounds like a great plan.

Part of why I want to move abroad is to start fresh. Every time I've had to do that, positive things have happened. Forcing myself to find new friends and social circles will also hopefully help me with game.

(12-25-2018 11:16 PM)Hypugamy Wrote:  Yep. I became a workaholic in my 20's because I thought success and money would make me happy. I made a lot of money, and eventually got a steady, high-paying job (over $100K US/year). BUT, I am 35 now and have had some serious chronic health problems that started a year ago, unrelated to my job. So basically I have more money than I know what to do with (I will be a millionaire in a few years), but my health is already gone and I'm single, don't even have the desire to do the work to find my NAWALT now.

You may have many good years, you may not. A lot of life is luck and there is no guarantee of what tomorrow will bring. There is always more money to make, but other things you only get once in life. If you are a single man, you really don't need much money anyways. Just look at Roosh V. He says a lot of wise things, and a big one is that nothing outside yourself will bring you happiness.

I was happier when I was a 22 year old virgin with no education, a face full of acne, jerking off and playing computer games in my parents basement. Life's a bitch.

OP:don't do what I did.

I'm sorry to hear about your health issues. I hope things get better and thank you for your advice. Recently, I have been trying to figure out what makes me happy and the values I place highest is learning new skills, exploring new cultures, being adventurous and meeting new people. This is why a corportate job doesn't excite me as it doesn't fulfil many of my current values.

(12-26-2018 12:01 AM)qwertyuiop Wrote:  Depends on your plans.

I need one more promotion before I might go off and screw off for a bit -- I can always come back to get a new role and it pays 250k (or more( a year. Pretty much was my plan after college.

So far only a few years out of college and over 100k.

If you want to be a banker/consultant/doctor/lawyer etc you pretty much have to start your career now or fairly soon (maybe not so much for law).

If you don't care too much and not looking to work a super competitive career path, i'd say you're safe screwing off for a few years and/or trying your hand at internet biz.

The corporate jobs aren't going anywhere -- and except for those who make it in online biz are where most end up.

It's true I may come to miss out on high paying jobs. But I hope that will only push me to keep going at making something work for myself. I tried one of the current trending online businesses and made a small profit, though I don't think it is very futureproof. However, I can apply the experience to more stable ideas.

(12-26-2018 12:16 AM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  Those poor ripped off UK public overpaid for the "masters" because clearly you will never pay for it with your dreams of trying latin dancing. And I still think you are a troll.

My social skills may not be to your standard (isn't that the point of this forum, for men to help each other improve themselves?) but I will definitely pay off my student loan. I could tell you why paying it off now is a bad investment, but I doubt you'll listen anyway. All you do is scream troll.

(12-26-2018 01:22 AM)Mig Picante Wrote:  Get a job and throw yourself into it. Work is going to become more competitive in the future.

The alternative you’re proposing is to spend your savings and go faff about for 2 years with no real plan.

What you’d be at the end if that period is a broke, jobless bum with no experience. Hardly a good standpoint to negotiate from with an employer, or a woman. You’d be up
Against recent graduates and appear unreliable by comparison.

Better to get experience and have some options. At the moment you din’t Need a holiday, you need to knuckle down and make something of yourself IMO.

(12-26-2018 01:25 AM)Mig Picante Wrote:  To the other people that suggested improve your game, for a young man, the best way to improve your game is to start earning, gaining experience and practice developing your social skills on the side.

Take it from an older guy, you will never have more energy than you do now and you don’t realise until it goes. You could work 80 hour weeks, including a full time job and all your fancy ideas that probably won’t work out in your spare time. Get focused, at the moment, it reads as non-conmittal.

I agree that taking a decent job and working at it for at least a few years is a safer bet. Particularly if you do the side hustles after work. You are also right that it sounds like I'm not committed to typical jobs because at the moment it is true. I'm more motivated when I know that every action I take directly impacts how much cash I get at the end of the month. I think that trying for at least a year will do me good, even if it burns me financially and ends up being a year I could have been progressing in a career.

(12-26-2018 02:24 AM)Waqqle Wrote:  ESL is a good field if you want to stay abroad. That’s why I like it. Which Spanish-speaking country do you want to move to? I just spent 3 months in Colombia and another month in Mexico. I’d say that, in Latin America, the best salaries for an ESL teacher are most likely going to be in Colombia, Brazil, and Chile, though it is important to factor cost of living when deciding where to take a job. Generally speaking, Latin America does not pay very well for ESL teachers but it doesn’t cost much to live there either (except Costa Rica) so you can still afford to live well and you can save some if you have a side hustle.

Fuck working your way up the corporate ladder in an Anglo country. You’re gonna lose all that wealth in the divorce and/or when the government runs out of money and comes up with some new oppressive tax that renders your hard work and planning pointless. Like Hypugamy said, being higher up on the ladder won’t necessarily make you happier and your position will only become increasingly more tenuous over time as more and more laws get put in place to make it easier for you to be caught up on something nonsensical and replaced with a more maliable female or member of some other protected group. I’m not saying don’t earn and gain professional experience. I’m saying that you don’t necessarily have to do that at home.

If you want specific ESL industry advice, feel free to PM me. As for life in general, read Enjoy the Decline by Aaron Clarey (the principles in it apply just as much to Brits as they do to Americans), unplug yourself from the Matrix, and live according to your principles, not just according to what some out of touch Baby Boomer tells you is going to pay off for you in the long run as he wraps up that phone call with that attorney he hired to deal with the attorney that the vile succubus who once promised in front of all her family and friends before the altar of her supposed God to love and honor him hired to ensure that he never spends a full day with his children again and that they are raised to resent him before driving his debt wagon to his divorced guy apartment to open up that letter from his company informing him that he has been let go due to a budget cut (and only 2 weeks before hitting the 20-year mark to get his pension. Dang, imagine that!).

Maybe you can even immigrate and become a citizen in a Latin American country, start a new life for yourself, and work your way up the economic ladder there while you improve your Spanish, dance salsa on the roof of your apartment building with your curvy mestizo girlfriend, and forget to give a crap about what your peers back in Blighty are doing or thinking of you at that moment.

I appreciate your post. The fact that you can do exactly as society wants you to and still get ruined is precisely why I rather do what I want for as long as possible and potentially still end up better financially.

In regards to which country, I haven't decided yet but will send you a PM. The ESL salary isn't as big factor as other aspects of living. I'm confident in making money online even if it is not a lot.

Post: #13

The thing with career and jobs is that as long as you were not a total hobo through your entire 20s, in most careers you can still progress and earn a decent salary in a relatively short timescale (~2-5 years). I don't think the OP intends to live a hippie lifestyle. No harm in traveling and working on low paying jobs for a while. He's young, he's better off exploring the world and banging hoes instead of selling his youth to a corporation.

One thing, OP. Try not to burn through your savings too much. If you can earn cash with ESL, even if it's not much, do that. Just enough to cover your expenses is fine (which should be low if you come to Latin America). You can look into teaching remotely if the local market pays too low. Once you have something steady going, invest the money you have saved.

Post: #14

(12-26-2018 07:16 AM)Super Average Man Wrote:  The thing with career and jobs is that as long as you were not a total hobo through your entire 20s, in most careers you can still progress and earn a decent salary in a relatively short timescale (~2-5 years). I don't think the OP intends to live a hippie lifestyle. No harm in traveling and working on low paying jobs for a while. He's young, he's better off exploring the world and banging hoes instead of selling his youth to a corporation.

One thing, OP. Try not to burn through your savings too much. If you can earn cash with ESL, even if it's not much, do that. Just enough to cover your expenses is fine (which should be low if you come to Latin America). You can look into teaching remotely if the local market pays too low. Once you have something steady going, invest the money you have saved.

I've learned a lot about investing in the last 2-3 years and concluded that the best way to invest is also the easiest and I follow some of B. Graham's principles. Without derailing the thread topic, I'm pretty good with managing money.
That is actually one of my main arguements against my plan as if I focussed on making money 100% for a few years, the compounding effect will provide me a nice passive income for the rest of my life.

But if I don't enjoy my life now when young, does it really matter if I may be well off in the future?

Post: #15

(12-25-2018 11:16 PM)Hypugamy Wrote:  Yep. I became a workaholic in my 20's because I thought success and money would make me happy. I made a lot of money, and eventually got a steady, high-paying job (over $100K US/year). BUT, I am 35 now and have had some serious chronic health problems that started a year ago, unrelated to my job. So basically I have more money than I know what to do with (I will be a millionaire in a few years), but my health is already gone and I'm single, don't even have the desire to do the work to find my NAWALT now.

Appreciate the honesty, man.

(12-25-2018 11:16 PM)Hypugamy Wrote:  You may have many good years, you may not. A lot of life is luck and there is no guarantee of what tomorrow will bring. There is always more money to make, but other things you only get once in life. If you are a single man, you really don't need much money anyways. Just look at Roosh V. He says a lot of wise things, and a big one is that nothing outside yourself will bring you happiness.

Agree completely.

(12-25-2018 11:16 PM)Hypugamy Wrote:  I was happier when I was a 22 year old virgin with no education, a face full of acne, jerking off and playing computer games in my parents basement. Life's a bitch.

OP:don't do what I did.

This makes me think of when my buddies and I would get together and play Axis & Allies for 24 hours straight on weekends, those were the days...LAN parties with Civilization.

I've been doing a lot of thinking these past few weeks, and I keep coming to "What will make me happy, long term..." so many variables, though.

Post: #16

So...part of why I'm making this post is twofold. Number one is that I think you're getting terrible advice due to this forum's bias towards elevating "getting pussy" to the top of the needs hierarchy. I opted for a more "experiential" first job (in a very different way than you're considering) and it fucked me over big time. It took me two years in graduate school to be able to break into the field I should have just gone into originally, and I'm now about four years behind relative to my peers.

Second is that it pains me to see someone with a freaking MASTERS DEGREE deciding that they're just going to do work a high school grad is easily capable of doing.


This doesn't answer your question directly, but it should help get you pointed in the right direction:

Quote:That is actually one of my main arguements against my plan as if I focussed on making money 100% for a few years, the compounding effect will provide me a nice passive income for the rest of my life.

http://wallstreetplayboys.com/think-like...questions/

See above article. You've hit the nail on the head and you already know what you need to do.


There's one major thing you need to keep in mind: You think it's a choice between getting rich or going around meeting interesting people and then fucking them.

In reality I think you'll find that one makes the other massively easier, while the opposite is not true. Even with my (now relatively average business-dude style) looks the difference is immediate and apparent. Say...one incident was in Manhattan where I was out with my wife wearing what was obviously an expensive set of sweater, tie, and shoes and feeling good enough to be giving off that "successful" vibe. I had some girls giving me openly flirty physical gestures While I was sitting with my wife. I've never anything that brazen happen while I'm dressed down or am walking around with a lower-vibe attitude.


In my opinion it's simply not that fucking important how many flags you collect. What IS important is that what you do now will substantially impact the breadth and depth of opportunities available to you in the future.

If you don't know then my general advice would to do something that keeps your options open. It's going to be a hard sell at this point if you've already graduated but things like consulting gigs can be perfect for this: The work is viewed as being broadly applicable, generally has a good "name brand" benefit to it, and you'll become massively stronger in both the "who you know" and "how to influence people" aspects of your life. Best benefit is that once you decide to go independent you'll have some established credibility to utilize.


Before you get the wrong idea...

Quote:I'm sorry to hear about your health issues. I hope things get better and thank you for your advice. Recently, I have been trying to figure out what makes me happy and the values I place highest is learning new skills, exploring new cultures, being adventurous and meeting new people. This is why a corportate job doesn't excite me as it doesn't fulfill many of my current values.

You don't NEED to. There's a ton of small shops out there. Furthermore there's a lot of jobs out there with a lot more future potential than teaching english, that are travel intensive jobs. Some of them will be fun jobs, with fun peers, and fun perks.

To have a clue there it would be helpful to know what your degrees are in.

Post: #17

(12-26-2018 12:21 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  So...part of why I'm making this post is twofold. Number one is that I think you're getting terrible advice due to this forum's bias towards elevating "getting pussy" to the top of the needs hierarchy. I opted for a more "experiential" first job (in a very different way than you're considering) and it fucked me over big time. It took me two years in graduate school to be able to break into the field I should have just gone into originally, and I'm now about four years behind relative to my peers.

Second is that it pains me to see someone with a freaking MASTERS DEGREE deciding that they're just going to do work a high school grad is easily capable of doing.


This doesn't answer your question directly, but it should help get you pointed in the right direction:

Quote:That is actually one of my main arguements against my plan as if I focussed on making money 100% for a few years, the compounding effect will provide me a nice passive income for the rest of my life.

http://wallstreetplayboys.com/think-like...questions/

See above article. You've hit the nail on the head and you already know what you need to do.


There's one major thing you need to keep in mind: You think it's a choice between getting rich or going around meeting interesting people and then fucking them.

In reality I think you'll find that one makes the other massively easier, while the opposite is not true. Even with my (now relatively average business-dude style) looks the difference is immediate and apparent. Say...one incident was in Manhattan where I was out with my wife wearing what was obviously an expensive set of sweater, tie, and shoes and feeling good enough to be giving off that "successful" vibe. I had some girls giving me openly flirty physical gestures While I was sitting with my wife. I've never anything that brazen happen while I'm dressed down or am walking around with a lower-vibe attitude.


In my opinion it's simply not that fucking important how many flags you collect. What IS important is that what you do now will substantially impact the breadth and depth of opportunities available to you in the future.

If you don't know then my general advice would to do something that keeps your options open. It's going to be a hard sell at this point if you've already graduated but things like consulting gigs can be perfect for this: The work is viewed as being broadly applicable, generally has a good "name brand" benefit to it, and you'll become massively stronger in both the "who you know" and "how to influence people" aspects of your life. Best benefit is that once you decide to go independent you'll have some established credibility to utilize.


Before you get the wrong idea...

Quote:I'm sorry to hear about your health issues. I hope things get better and thank you for your advice. Recently, I have been trying to figure out what makes me happy and the values I place highest is learning new skills, exploring new cultures, being adventurous and meeting new people. This is why a corportate job doesn't excite me as it doesn't fulfill many of my current values.

You don't NEED to. There's a ton of small shops out there. Furthermore there's a lot of jobs out there with a lot more future potential than teaching english, that are travel intensive jobs. Some of them will be fun jobs, with fun peers, and fun perks.

To have a clue there it would be helpful to know what your degrees are in.

That article was very interesting and aligns well with my thinking. I'll look into reading their ebook Efficiency.

I understand I give the vibe that I'm choosing between a good career, and going travelling while doing low paid jobs. However, my goals are not random and I do not plan to be pissing the years away. Teaching English will not be my main income source. I'm confident in saving more money by moving abroad then getting a job in the UK (especially given the living cost savings).

It is a risk because my online ideas may not work, but I have already tested some of them and have made money, and still have 6 more months to prove I can be consistently profitable.

Even if that does not come to fruit thought, I would have gained some skills that will certainly help me speed up my progression, should I need to get a traditional job after a year or two. For example:

Teaching English ~ public speaking and presenting skills.

Going to a Spanish speaking country ~ 3rd fluent language

I don't want to state my degree but it's in STEM with lots of options. It's unlikely that it will be hard to get a job in a few years unless things turn very sour.

Post: #18

You may want to get a job that has a start date that gives you a 3 month gap, or allows for a 3 month delay. With that amount of time you can easily trial run that travel lifestyle you want.

I'm 26 now and did a 4 month trip after graduation but before work (had a job lined up). This, along with some solid 3 weeker mini-jaunts during these working years, have really helped develop a more mature outlook on traveling and helped get it "out of my system" a little. I know what I want for the big jump when it comes.

You also will gain a lot of perspective on the working world and what you want out of a job, after a year or two at your first one.

Finally, your game and tastes will improve and you will become more cognizant of what you want from girls.

All in all, I think it is best to bust it from 23 until late 20s. Then travel and make this all happen then, as you will be in absolute peak form to make the most of it.

Post: #19

Believe it or not, teaching english will not be that rewarding. You will be making wages that sustain you, but don't do much else-- of course it depends on where you are, but the wages are just meant to give you a basic standard of living and nothing more.

I don't want to be regressive, but I'd actually suggest you do some backpacking or get over to a RVF hotspot like EE or SEA or SA, provided you have the bank to get you through a few months.

Oftentimes, just a few months in a foreign country is all it takes to get your perspectives and life in order.

Post: #20

(12-26-2018 10:42 PM)harmonicpinch Wrote:  You may want to get a job that has a start date that gives you a 3 month gap, or allows for a 3 month delay. With that amount of time you can easily trial run that travel lifestyle you want.

I'm 26 now and did a 4 month trip after graduation but before work (had a job lined up). This, along with some solid 3 weeker mini-jaunts during these working years, have really helped develop a more mature outlook on traveling and helped get it "out of my system" a little. I know what I want for the big jump when it comes.

You also will gain a lot of perspective on the working world and what you want out of a job, after a year or two at your first one.

Finally, your game and tastes will improve and you will become more cognizant of what you want from girls.

All in all, I think it is best to bust it from 23 until late 20s. Then travel and make this all happen then, as you will be in absolute peak form to make the most of it.

I like this idea and will adapt a similar stance for my situation. Cheers.

(12-27-2018 12:33 AM)Heuristics Wrote:  Believe it or not, teaching english will not be that rewarding. You will be making wages that sustain you, but don't do much else-- of course it depends on where you are, but the wages are just meant to give you a basic standard of living and nothing more.

I don't want to be regressive, but I'd actually suggest you do some backpacking or get over to a RVF hotspot like EE or SEA or SA, provided you have the bank to get you through a few months.

Oftentimes, just a few months in a foreign country is all it takes to get your perspectives and life in order.

I'm sure that with low financial rewards, It will be hard to feel satisfied with just that. However, I plan to meet my financial goals with side online business hustles.

I respect all views from this thread and will do something that in my opinion will be a compromise of the two main sides:

Take a year out and base in 1 location in Latin America. Work on my online business and also part time teaching English. Do a bit of travelling in surrounding countries in spare time and improve fitness, socialise etc.

If after 6 months of the year my business is not making me, or on track to making me roughly the same amount of money or more as I would be making on a job I could get back home, then I start applying to jobs. Then once I secure a job, use the time left before starting to do some traditional travelling.

A gap year after university is usually taken well in the UK, especially as what I have already done online can give me enough to talk about so that it doesn't sound like I spend a year getting wasted every night.

Hopefully though, something online will work and I can continue the dream of being location independent.