Post: #26

The man may be older than the article states. He could have bribed someone in his country to falsify his age on the documents he used to enter Europe. Or he may present himself to the public as younger than his real age, as was common at one time for actors and models.

Post: #27

(12-11-2018 06:52 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  If he was high value he wouldn't have married her.

It really is this simple.

I'd look away once I saw her, if I saw her in real life.

Post: #28

(12-10-2018 07:03 PM)Laconian Wrote:  I can't imagine this dude being a beta chump. I browsed through his instagram and he seems pretty full of himself. Plus he was a model and TV actor back in Turkey.

Lets take a look again, shall we? Narcissistic people can still be very insecure and in need of constant validation, keep in mind.

http://www.instagram.com/adamguzel/?hl=sv

For me, that's not a man. You're looking at a prettyboy who acts like an insecure woman. What's up with all those selfies like he's some Kardashian? Could you imagine some John Wayne type of guy ever do shit like this?

My dad would slap my sister's face if she ever brought a guy like that back to the house. That is soy and that is why he settled for that woman.

Post: #29

(12-11-2018 09:40 AM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 07:03 PM)Laconian Wrote:  I can't imagine this dude being a beta chump. I browsed through his instagram and he seems pretty full of himself. Plus he was a model and TV actor back in Turkey.

Lets take a look again, shall we? Narcissistic people can still be very insecure and in need of constant validation, keep in mind.

http://www.instagram.com/adamguzel/?hl=sv

For me, that's not a man. You're looking at a prettyboy who acts like an insecure woman. What's up with all those selfies like he's some Kardashian? Could you imagine some John Wayne type of guy ever do shit like this?

My dad would slap my sister's face if she ever brought a guy like that back to the house. That is soy and that is why he settled for that woman.

I agree, but you have to delete this post if you personally have an instagram or facebook account.

Post: #30

(12-11-2018 12:34 AM)Rocha Wrote:  Average women --- both single and taken -- are gobbling up this story as we speak and guaranteed it's making them even more toxic, frustrated and delusional.

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So approach above average women. Problem solved.

I don't give a damn about average women feelings and frustrations.

"Problem solved"? This isn't a discussion about my penis or your penis. This is about the long-term social consequences in Europe of the constant promotion of such material.

You claim not to give a damn about average women, but those same average women don't give a damn about you in your country, to say nothing of the pretty ones. And articles and stories like this one are one of the causes.

Portuguese, Italian and Spanish men are making thirsty sex pilgrimages to Eastern Europe for a reason. Because their own women are ahead of the entitled feminist curve partly due to the type of bullshit promoted in this article (and partly due to their men). Spanish women, for example, have become so picky and unbearable that Spain is now the P4P capital of Europe, with most of the Juans being in their 20s and 30s. It's just a question of time before you completely destroy another group of women (this time Slavic) with your ceaseless, romantic, peter-pan, beta-clown game.

It's really just a step below Turk game.

Post: #31

Fuck this gay earth

Post: #32

(12-11-2018 09:40 AM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 07:03 PM)Laconian Wrote:  I can't imagine this dude being a beta chump. I browsed through his instagram and he seems pretty full of himself. Plus he was a model and TV actor back in Turkey.

Lets take a look again, shall we? Narcissistic people can still be very insecure and in need of constant validation, keep in mind.

http://www.instagram.com/adamguzel/?hl=sv

For me, that's not a man. You're looking at a prettyboy who acts like an insecure woman. What's up with all those selfies like he's some Kardashian? Could you imagine some John Wayne type of guy ever do shit like this?

My dad would slap my sister's face if she ever brought a guy like that back to the house. That is soy and that is why he settled for that woman.

All top IG male models post nothing but selfies and gym photos. That's just the thing to do. I don't support it but it is what it is. It could be self-love, self-consciousness, self-promotion or a combination of all three.

But facts are facts. This Turkish dude would easily clean up in the acquisition of the most precious resource in the world -- prime white 15 - 23 yo vagina.

Big goofy John Wayne would be scooping up single mothers if he were around these days and not a famous actor.

Not a single dude that looks like John Wayne is cast as a romantic lead with a hot young loyal bitch by his side.

Post: #33

Sorry to disagree with people but this is one ugly, ugly, ugly motherfucker...

And a loser.

Ever notice how Jordan Belfort was "The Wolf of Wall Street" and yet he hardly held down a job there -on actual Wall Street- for more than five minutes?

Ever notice how he >would have held down a job there< BUT Y'KNOW.. Black Monday happened and he was just Forced, FORCED I tell you, to become a confidence trickster, committing his crimes.. a Long Way Away from.. actual Wall Street.

That goddamn Black Monday.

Nobody ever got laid off and went back and got another job on Wall Street ever-again after that day 1987.

I've had people tell me that their Uncle committed suicide because of the >>UK Official Secrets Act<<. "He wasn't allowed to talk about his job and that made him kill himself."

Bullshit.

Its the kind of vague strange explanation that separates strangers into two categories - the ones who frown and refrain from asking uncomfortable questions out of respect .. and the ones who buy it hook-line-and-sinker because these kind of emotive white lies are familiar, having been spun in their own delusional family histories..

"The shy, 35-year-old model woke up in the Bohemian district of Cihangir, near Istanbul’s famous Taksim Square, suffering from a cold.

Adem poured a cup of tea in the kitchen of his aparthotel*, a type of bed-and-breakfast that had once been popular with travelers, ==== before political instability and terrorist attacks killed off Turkish tourism.

(Goddamn Black Monday! Goddamn Official Secrets Act!)

In English, their shared second language, Adem explained that he had grown up in a coastal Turkish village, then moved to Istanbul and enjoyed a prosperous modeling career. But his plans to become a television actor had stalled when he refused to enter a Turkish reality show, which he said operated on a “casting-couch” basis. Instead, Adem moved into a *friend’s deserted aparthotel as a temporary manager.

(Goddamn Turkish Tourist industry crash! Goddamn Casting Couch!)

.. but Adem soon packed his bags and returned to the village whence he came. Şarköy, pop. 17,000,

^^ Loser.

Apparently..

Nobody has ever become famous in Turkey in spite of the -casting couch- Ever.
Nobody has successfully managed to work in Istanbul's Tourism Industry since 2014. (where our hero's CV and work history actually resides..)
Nobody has ever lost a job and found another in Istanbul in recent times.

Certainly, if you're a successful model and you turn down one TV role then that's it; back to your 17,000 person internet-less village you go.


I've known plenty of average people who hide amongst their close circle of family and friends and share the accolades of how 'handsome! and good looking!' they are.. when in fact they are average and talentless little scaredy cats.

Ever notice how the questionable chicks on Tinder never do a full front on body shot?
They are always cut off at the shoulders.. Or leaning forward.. Or their legs are in the way.. Or they are wearing a top... Never a full picture.


"Adem was taller than she expected.."

Hmm, sure, Exactly How Tall?

I'll call it if no one else will.

He ain't no Chad.

He's a podgy little pot bellied, noodle limbed, no definition, bushy eye browed faggot.

And right now this little nobody must be thanking his lucky stars that some opportunistic PR firm entered his and his shrivelled up loser supposed-GF's life (probably before they'd even met).

If you consider that "There are other challenges: Turkey is >>>not yet<<< in the European Union, so Adem can only stay in London for six months at a time, and cannot work."

Then.. He must be truly thankful that -equally fame hungry- Emma "now admits that the internet is an instrument of fate."

...

We are the ones being catfished.

Post: #34

(12-11-2018 10:34 AM)Laconian Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 12:34 AM)Rocha Wrote:  Average women --- both single and taken -- are gobbling up this story as we speak and guaranteed it's making them even more toxic, frustrated and delusional.

-----

So approach above average women. Problem solved.

I don't give a damn about average women feelings and frustrations.

"Problem solved"? This isn't a discussion about my penis or your penis. This is about the long-term social consequences in Europe of the constant promotion of such material.

You claim not to give a damn about average women, but those same average women don't give a damn about you in your country, to say nothing of the pretty ones. And articles and stories like this one are one of the causes.

Portuguese, Italian and Spanish men are making thirsty sex pilgrimages to Eastern Europe for a reason. Because their own women are ahead of the entitled feminist curve partly due to the type of bullshit promoted in this article (and partly due to their men). Spanish women, for example, have become so picky and unbearable that Spain is now the P4P capital of Europe, with most of the Juans being in their 20s and 30s. It's just a question of time before you completely destroy another group of women (this time Slavic) with your ceaseless, romantic, peter-pan, beta-clown game.

It's really just a step below Turk game.

Dude what the fuck are you even talking about?

Like Italy has exactly the opposite problem, too much conservative catholic influence that made women a bunch of prune. They don't want to sleep around to not be seen as whores.
Add to that we Italians are very horny by nature and like to chase skirt and you have a culture of travelling to bang foreign broads that started in the late 70s (if not earlier). Many Italian comedies from the 80s portrait foreign women as slutty and a lot of fun. I think media from those years have definitely influenced in a lot of young Italians that still today have the dream to travel abroad mainly to fuck girls.

Never seen any feminist propaganda stuff in Italy if not in the last 3-4 years.

Post: #35

(12-11-2018 02:01 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  Sorry to disagree with people but this is one ugly, ugly, ugly motherfucker...

....

"Adem was taller than she expected.."

Hmm, sure, Exactly How Tall?

I'll call it if no one else will.

He ain't no Chad.

He's a podgy little pot bellied, noodle limbed, no definition, bushy eye browed faggot.

You seem seriously triggered by this handsome man's appearance.

With all the shit you're talking about his looks, you damn well better be on the level of Nick Bateman (https://www.instagram.com/nick__bateman/) to back it up. But you actually come across as just some dude who obsessively goes to the gym to make up for his average face (and other insecurities) and then walks around flexing and bullying others.

This Turkish brah can hit the gym tomorrow and in six months have a decent body. But you can't work out your average face or receding hairline.

If not a manlet or obese, then face/hair > body every time. DiCaprio is a perfect example of this. Skinny-fat his entire life and always a sex symbol thanks to face/hair.

(12-11-2018 02:52 PM)wellrockthecity Wrote:  Dude what the fuck are you even talking about?

Like Italy has exactly the opposite problem, too much conservative catholic influence that made women a bunch of prune. They don't want to sleep around to not be seen as whores.
Add to that we Italians are very horny by nature and like to chase skirt and you have a culture of travelling to bang foreign broads that started in the late 70s (if not earlier). Many Italian comedies from the 80s portrait foreign women as slutty and a lot of fun. I think media from those years have definitely influenced in a lot of young Italians that still today have the dream to travel abroad mainly to fuck girls.

Never seen any feminist propaganda stuff in Italy if not in the last 3-4 years.

Beautiful fertile women walking around town half-naked feeling powerful, liberated and untouchable, super-thirsty local men who have to travel to bumfuck Europe to get laid running exotic clown game, and a fertility rate of 1.3* (that's #200 out of 209 countries in the world to put things into perspective).

Conclusion: your women are completely useless. And that is the very essence of feminism.



*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate

Post: #36

(12-11-2018 10:34 AM)Laconian Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 12:34 AM)Rocha Wrote:  Average women --- both single and taken -- are gobbling up this story as we speak and guaranteed it's making them even more toxic, frustrated and delusional.

-----

So approach above average women. Problem solved.

I don't give a damn about average women feelings and frustrations.

"Problem solved"? This isn't a discussion about my penis or your penis. This is about the long-term social consequences in Europe of the constant promotion of such material.

You claim not to give a damn about average women, but those same average women don't give a damn about you in your country, to say nothing of the pretty ones. And articles and stories like this one are one of the causes.

Portuguese, Italian and Spanish men are making thirsty sex pilgrimages to Eastern Europe for a reason. Because their own women are ahead of the entitled feminist curve partly due to the type of bullshit promoted in this article (and partly due to their men). Spanish women, for example, have become so picky and unbearable that Spain is now the P4P capital of Europe, with most of the Juans being in their 20s and 30s. It's just a question of time before you completely destroy another group of women (this time Slavic) with your ceaseless, romantic, peter-pan, beta-clown game.

It's really just a step below Turk game.

So which banned incel, low-t, soy eater, jewish user that I have met is you?

Shalom.

Post: #37

First, if that woman is a 5, then I hate to think how you guys would rate the girls I go with. I'd give them both a 9 because I believe most people are 8 and above, and it's mostly photography tricks combined with war paint and battle gear, plus the appeal of the exotic (especially blondes in the case of guys from anywhere blondes are not common) that causes people to think some women are special. It's a form of pedestalization, IMO, to call some leggy blonde slav a 10 but this woman a 5. Beauty is not a linear scale like height, where people 2m tall really are rare. Human beauty is the average: average sized mouth, average sized nose, etc. Biggest possible mouth + biggest possible nose = monster, not biggest possible beauty. That said, I would not bang this woman, neither now nor when she was young, because I find her personality insufferable.
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Second, marriage is for chump men, unless the man gets something out of it and can avoid losing from it, which appears to be precisely the situation of this aging unemployed former Turkish model. Evidently, this woman is madly in love and so will help support the guy while he gets established in Britain or France, and she will worship him like a sex god, which sounds like a good deal given the bad economic situation in Turkey now. Once he gets permanent residency, he can cheat to his hearts delight. I do think lots of women will go for his looks. Might be a problem if she wants children.

Third, I would just love it if this disgusting love story had a twist ending to disappoint all the women currently gobbling it up. Don't you agree, wouldn't it be wonderful if it turns out this Turkish guy is gay?

Post: #38

Shemp, I've been loving your posts lately, but man ^ that first paragraph's gotta go

That woman was insta-boner-deflater, and you had the nerve to mention leggy slavic blonde in the same sentence?

Post: #39

She's a boner deflator because her personality shows in her face. The personality is the problem. Otherwise, she's pretty enough, well above average for age 33, competitive with 33yo slavic women, assuming you're not pedestalizing the latter. An expert photographer could make her look like either a supermodel or a witch. BTW no women are more susceptible to resembling witches in photos with unflattering lighting than "owl face" slavs, the same women who everyone thinks are 10's when lighting is better.

Post: #40

I can't disagree, as a running joke I had with many friends at least with the polish girls approaching 40 that I had come across, indeed they started turning into that witch look. That's precisely the word we used ... lol

Post: #41

OP is a troll (thankfully banned). Chad is not that of a Chad, slut is ugly and washed up as fuck. Worthless thread.

Post: #42

The only utility here is in observing that we have all spent time reading and posting on this bullshit article. It is chickbait. Simple as that. Have you ever seen a Lifetime/Hallmark movie? They all have the same plot - some thirtysomething career women (who is often a 6) goes/returns to a small town for summer/vacation/Christmas/etc, only to be lusted after by a competing set of male models (one is a fireman, one is a lawyer, another is a multi-millionaire business owner). In the end the best man, by her standards, wins the prize of being able to wife up her withered ass. This article is the real life? version of lady porn.

It is useless except, perhaps, for some insight in to the female mind. And that is assuming it's real. These days, if The Atlantic ran an article saying that the sky is blue, I would go outside to check for myself.

Post: #43

(12-11-2018 02:01 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  ...

We are the ones being catfished.

Exactly Tiger Man.

It's bullshit.

Reads like a badly written Mills and Boon novel. But it sells.

I watched the Australian version of the Bachelorette once with a woman.
A blatantly gay and fame hungry 'ex-dancer' was on some weird all-day date with a withered hag while all the other 'men' were 'back at the house' fretting over what it meant for their 'chances'.

But it sells.

Turned to the girl and said 'you realise that this is all fake?'
"Don't ruin it!' came the reply.

Willing suspension of disbelief. Hideously obese sex tourists in places like Cambodia like to be sold the same fictions (somewhere there is someone with a way higher SMV than yours that's dying to fall in love with you.)

But those washed up guys are derided universally.

Whereas the washed up losers that embody many modern women are pandered to almost universally.

Post: #44

I wouldn't use the term 'Game Recognised', but:

Quote:When Emma studied him, she saw a man just two years younger than her own father.

...

“It was a perfect night,” Alan said. “She paid for dinner that evening..."

Alan even insinuated that Emma had stayed the night at his hotel. “As a gentleman I’m very reluctant to talk about this side of it,” he said. Emma flatly denied it.

...

Emma could not erase Alan from her life. After their meeting in London, they met several times. Just before Christmas of 2016, Alan presented her with a Swarovski bracelet. “She bought me Hugo Boss socks,” Alan told me, “They’re not cheap.”

...

“It was a relationship that we built ... You develop a friendship, you talk ...” she explained, her voice breaking as she described their toxic relationship. She was helplessly bonded to Alan...

...

Alan added that he no longer uses fake identities, and has since met someone special, he said, on Twitter: “A European lady, younger than me, younger than Emma.”

So after his 6-8 week mini-relationship with a woman young enough to be his daughter who buys him dinner and presents, he lands a woman even younger.

As for this, I call bullshit:

Quote:There are other challenges: Turkey is not yet in the European Union, so Adem can only stay in London for six months at a time, and cannot work.

The UK is full of working Turks. Anyway, in the previous paragraph we learn that:

Quote:Currently, Adem is chasing his acting dreams in London, and says he recently auditioned for Aladdin, the original, Arabian catfishing story.

I would like to know what he does in between these six-month periods of idyllic bliss. Where he goes, and who with...

A couple of other observations:

Quote:Soon, other victims of Alan Stanley reached out to Emma. One woman from New York said she had been in a relationship with Ronnie for “years.”

Relationship? Victims?

And I know it's childish, but the thought of a French woman working at a restaurant called Zizzi never fails to amuse...

Post: #45

Earth is 7billion. i'd be surprised if not more strange things happened.

Post: #46

(12-11-2018 07:23 PM)Shemp Wrote:  First, if that woman is a 5, then I hate to think how you guys would rate the girls I go with. I'd give them both a 9 because I believe most people are 8 and above, and it's mostly photography tricks combined with war paint and battle gear, plus the appeal of the exotic (especially blondes in the case of guys from anywhere blondes are not common) that causes people to think some women are special. It's a form of pedestalization, IMO, to call some leggy blonde slav a 10 but this woman a 5. Beauty is not a linear scale like height, where people 2m tall really are rare. Human beauty is the average: average sized mouth, average sized nose, etc. Biggest possible mouth + biggest possible nose = monster, not biggest possible beauty.

"Human beauty is the average"... umm, no. Beauty by definition is something exceptional or exquisite, something that is far from average. The 1-10 scale is weighted so that the "average" person is a 5. If you were to graph human beauty on a bell curve, you'd see the majority of people between 3-7, peaking at around 5 then growing less common as you move out toward the extremes of 1 and 10.

Post: #47

That chick is 33? Fuking hell fire!

Post: #48

I see a hard 3, that married a 7 with no game. What's the big deal? Happens all the time in Hollywood (James McAvoy and Jason Mamoa come to mind.)

Maybe our 33 3 has some dough?