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(12-09-2018 05:41 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  There is going to perpetually be a push by the various state arms of the globalist regime to pit socialists against economic conservatives while the elite stuff their pockets full of cash and laugh at the idiots fighting each other in the streets.

Sure, it seems stupid to have a movement that says "cut taxes and raise pensions" but if that's the kind of cognitive dissonance it takes to rip down the tyrants from their self-allocated pedestals then so be it. The socialists and the fiscal conservatives can hash out their differences when they're no longer under the weight of globalist usury and a totalitarian police state.

Never forget that automation has decreased tenfold the work we're actually required to do to have the necessities in life, yet somehow during that same advance, the average schmuck has been reduced to sending his wife to work and leaving the kids in the care of strangers most waking hours of the day just to get by and have a chance at ever owning his own home over 25-30 long years.

Between every form of elite wealth-siphoning from usury-fueled house markets to inflation and beyond, we have never produced more real wealth per hour yet never been poorer per-capita.

Don't sweat the economic cognitive dissonance while the elites build a prison around you. Burn their palaces to the fucking ground and sort out the nuts and bolts of the economy later as free men.

I think it could be done with an ethnically homogenous European population. With mass immigration and the costs that follow...no chance.

What will happen now I fear, is that the violence and arrests will start scaring people from participating. This is why I`m so `balls deep` with this anti-police thing. (pro righteous and transient violence in other words) There where many really nasty injuries today, unfortunately this can stop the whole movement in it`s tracks. Violence works folks, it`s the sad truth.

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There's an ebb and a flow to these things.

The waves run month to month. Some are big and others are small.

But the tide is the thing to keep your eye on. When the big waves suddenly come in over your feet you might laugh it off but it won't be long before the little waves are coming in over your feet and the big waves are coming in over your head.

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(12-09-2018 09:37 AM)ChicagoFire Wrote:  Do we trust the plan because organic movements like this are utterly feared?

"Organic".
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(12-09-2018 05:41 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  There is going to perpetually be a push by the various state arms of the globalist regime to pit socialists against economic conservatives while the elite stuff their pockets full of cash and laugh at the idiots fighting each other in the streets.

Sure, it seems stupid to have a movement that says "cut taxes and raise pensions" but if that's the kind of cognitive dissonance it takes to rip down the tyrants from their self-allocated pedestals then so be it. The socialists and the fiscal conservatives can hash out their differences when they're no longer under the weight of globalist usury and a totalitarian police state.

Never forget that automation has decreased tenfold the work we're actually required to do to have the necessities in life, yet somehow during that same advance, the average schmuck has been reduced to sending his wife to work and leaving the kids in the care of strangers most waking hours of the day just to get by and have a chance at ever owning his own home over 25-30 long years.

Between every form of elite wealth-siphoning from usury-fueled house markets to inflation and beyond, we have never produced more real wealth per hour yet never been poorer per-capita.

Don't sweat the economic cognitive dissonance while the elites build a prison around you. Burn their palaces to the fucking ground and sort out the nuts and bolts of the economy later as free men.





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(12-09-2018 02:07 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  
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(12-08-2018 12:45 PM)Montrose Wrote:  A relatively quiet day in Paris. The morning was very quiet. I put on my yellow vest and went to the Champs Elysées. I was stopped and searched twice by police but they quickly recognized me as a bourgeois. The crowd were ´white trash’ from rural Picardy, Normandy and Artois, with a strong country accent, rather genial and cheerful.

Around noon the ´casseurs’ (breakers) from the ghetto got out of bed and went to Paris to wreak havoc and grab whatever they could grab. Things became more violent on the boulevards, with a few burning cars and some shattered glass. Around fifty lightly wounded in Paris altogether. The police adopted very successul mobile tactics (unlike last week where they remained static) and charged several times on foot and on horseback. It was a spectacular sight to behold. 1000 people were arrested.

Overall, a pretty good day. There were no violent incidents, the yellow vests have demonstrated discipline and restraint, but they have succeeded in maintaining a huge pressure on Macron. I don’t see how the macronists can get out of this mess. They cannot put 90,000 men on the street every Saturday.

This reads like a success story more so for the police state, rather than the Gilet Jaunes! No violent incidences? Police violence is no different from other groups violence. (A point many seem to miss.)

Kudos for being there though, but remember that the police get`s payed for doing this, most of the protestors are spending time and money etc. I don`t see todays events as a win for this movement. Granted I wasn`t there of course.

Wrong. Violence means yellow vests loose public support. The big money can't afford more closed weekends on Paris. If these peaceful protest continue for 3-4 more weekends, it is the rich that will outset macron to calm things down.

It`s strange that States and empires all over the globe and throughout the history off civilizations has not figured this out.

When Mao Zedong perfected 4th Generation War. Empires has been losing since.

I recommend reading this series which would be too long to post here:
https://fabiusmaximus.com/2015/01/24/mil...war-77139/
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Here was Ben Shapiro's take:

"But the French riots weren’t only about taxes. They were about government fulfillment of a bevy of other over-the-top demands from the protesters: They want higher taxes on the wealthy, an increase in the minimum wage, a maximum wage, rent controls, increases in spending on infrastructure and retirement, and a full-out ban on outsourcing.

This is the same basket of services promised by populist politicians across the world. And those promises are empty."
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Never got why anybody promoted Shapiro as a serious thinker. The hell hasn't that guy made aliyah yet for? It's not like we need him here.

If the French want a higher minimum wage, why not let them have it? Not our problem.

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Shapiro is a whip-holder on the Right.

He's no threat to the Left. He's only over here to make sure the goys don't get any big ideas.

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I don't follow daily news closely because it's like fast food for your brain, and this is not an exception, but all I can think when I come across information about it is the song 'Trouble Every Day' by Frank Zappa (technically about the Watts riots in the 60s):

You know we got to sit around at home
And watch this thing begin
But I bet there won't be many live
To see it really end
'Cause the fire in the street
Ain't like the fire in the heart
And in the eyes of all these people
Don't you know that this could start
On any street in any town
In any state if any clown
Decides that now's the time to fight
For some ideal he thinks is right
And if a million more agree
There ain't no Great Society
As it applies to you and me
Our country isn't free
And the law refuses to see
If all that you can ever be
Is just a lousy janitor
Unless your uncle owns a store
You know that five in every four
Just won't amount to nothin' more
Gonna watch the rats go across the floor
And make up songs about being poor

Blow your harmonica, son!




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Macron speaking about his political opponents - July 2018 : "Let them come and try to get me!"


Macron speaking to his political opponents - December 2018 : "I need help please!"

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Just spoke to someone in Brussels... apparently there were some demonstrations there over the weekend.
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If:

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  1. Summon Estates-Generals of taxes. Taxes cannot be more than 25% of GDP, guaranteed by Constitution

Then how:

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  2. Minimum wage, pensions and welfare to be increased by 40%
3. Massive hiring of civil servants to improve public services such as schools, hospitals, trains
4. Build 5 million low rent housing. No homelessness (prefects and mayors to be made responsible with heavy sanctions)

Anyway:

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  5. Break up banks, make them smaller to reduce risk and ban government subsidies for banks

Fine, but expect growth to contract substantially and a massive collapse of big institutions and big employers, at least for the short term. The big money comes from somewhere.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  6. Renege on national debt

Not saying this is necessarily a bad idea, but the consequences are a collapse in most self-funded pensions and similar, since they by and large depend on government bonds for a decent chunk of their reserves. Defaulting on the national debt immediately destroys the value of that government's bonds, instantly, because a government bond is the government being in debt to the bondholder, and this is refusing to pay that debt.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  7. New constitution with possibility of referendum organized by the people

Not a bad idea, but it requires the breakup of France into semi-silo'ed cantons like Switzerland. And it also guarantees that country will be a Swiss Mediocristan from that point on, if it succeeds.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  8. Ban lobbies. No elected official with criminal convictions. Maximum one public mandate per person.

Your problem isn't elected officials with criminal convictions. The problem is with elected officials.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  9. Frexit: France to leave the EU. Recover monetary, economic and political sovereignty in accordance with the result of the 2005 referendum. Being in the eurozone costs €50 bn a year.

Will work if France also deregulates and starts attracting businesses at the same time. If not, nothing happens.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  10. Clampdown on tax evasion, both legal and illegal. Take back €80 billion from French blue chip corporations.

Good idea, but bear in mind the Laffer Curve: you never get more than a certain percentage in income tax out of a population. That's why we don't already have tax rates at 90% (and not for want of trying, either. Even leftist FDR tried 100% tax rates for the wealthy. That resulted in the wealthy fleeing the US or hiding their assets.)

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  11. Renationalization of national utilities like airports and motorways

Fine, but nationalized industries turn "utilities" into government departments. You know the misery of waiting around at the local DMV? Apply that to your airports and get a big bag of popcorn.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  12. Remove useless speed cameras, they are just a hidden tax on cars

Agreed, impound or destroy a speeder's car. The idea is deterrence.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  13. Ban [leftist] ideology from education

Best suggestion of the lot.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  14. Simplify the justice system and lower its cost for the poor. Increase government financing fourfold.

On the government financing, see (1) above. For simplifying the justice system, that's easy. Repeal most of the shitty legislation that's been put through in the past twenty years and enforce the older laws that are already on the books. Even Nassim Taleb agrees that legislation by and large introduces heavy fragility to a system because one change in the legislation has very large consequences, while a system of law that's mainly judge-developed (i.e. common law) is not so fragile.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  15. Stop subsidizing media. Break up media monopolies and promote diversity of opinion. Stop propaganda

Stopping the subsidizing of media is fine, but you cannot, and never will, stop propaganda; see Noam Chomsky's model. The only way is to use the subsidies to create counter-propaganda. The better way is to stop mainstream media broadcasts from going to air more than once per week; let people use the Internet to pick their own news feeds, make it harder to generate mass propaganda as the MSM stations presently do.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  16. Promote freedom. No more State interference in schools, health, family - guaranteed by Constitution

Great idea. Shame about the upswing in incest.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  17. Increase warranty on consumer goods to 10 years to limit waste. Guarantee access to spare parts

So instead of waste in landfills, you'll have giant stockpiles of waste sitting waiting to be used.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  18. Ban plastics and polluting packaging
19. Fight big pharma’s influence. Reorganize the health system
20. Ban GMO and dangerous pesticides and fertilizers

No drama with this lot.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  21. Protect French industry and limit foreign imports

So long as Frogs can work hard enough so their native products cost less than the foreign imports, this will work. Not otherwise.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  22. Get out of NATO. No wars of aggression.

...this is fucking France we're talking about. I'd say the better approach would be to have them stop selling arms to wage wars of aggression.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  23. France-Africa: stop the exploitation of Africa and support of dictators. Abolish the CFA franc (African currency sponsored by France) which maintains Africa in poverty. Treat African states as equals.

When Africa stops exploting itself, fine. When Africa starts being other than the home of the tinpot dictatorship, tribal genocide, and AIDS, it can be treated as an equal. Not France's problem that Africa's currencies are shit and worth nothing so people look to alternative modes of exchange to survive.

(12-09-2018 11:46 AM)Montrose Wrote:  24. Block migrations which we cannot take in
25. Respect international agreements scrupulously

These two are directly opposed, since France is subject to the 1951 Refugee Convention, which started all this bullshit to begin with.


So, yeah. Bunch of stupidity combined with a few common sense conclusions.

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(12-10-2018 06:23 AM)sterlingarcher Wrote:  Just spoke to someone in Brussels... apparently there were some demonstrations there over the weekend.

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https://www.euronews.com/2018/12/08/brus...s-violence
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(12-08-2018 12:45 PM)Montrose Wrote:  The crowd were ´white trash’ from rural Picardy, Normandy and Artois, with a strong country accent, rather genial and cheerful.

This is not a deep insight, but one of the things that struck me when I visited France - and I realize that the people I met were subject to selection bias - was that rural people were pretty upbeat and alert.

I would go so far as to call them "bouncy". It's not easy to find communities of rural Americans, at least in the northeast and midwest, who can be described this way.

It's easy to roll your eyes when someone who drifts through most of their life like a dead-eyed zombie complains about the government and makes a bunch of empty promises about what they're going to do about it. They've never done anything about anything and they won't do anything about it now. It's less easy to dismiss people who are, if not sophisticated enough to fully understand what they're getting into, broadly functional, curious, bright-eyed, and bushy-tailed enough to figure it out as they go.

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As someone who grew up in France, I have been following these events with great interest. To say that I'm heartbroken to see a country, so beautiful, with such proud tradition and rich history, being destroyed by these globalists cannibals, is a huge understatement.

I only want to share here one short video which is at the VERY core of most of France and most of the entire world's problems: the banking cartel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkHogTQG_v4&t=1s
The above is a short clip of a Yellow Vest asking live a crucial question which has been of course, completely ignored by the globalist TV propagandists as they are not and cannot be called, journalists or TV hosts:

The valiant Yellow Vest says the following. Here's the translation from French:
He asks a question about the public debt.

He says that today, France's national debt is at about 100% of the country's GDP, which in itself is truly incredible.
Each new government with their liberal propaganda has brought more and more austerity policies asking the people to tighten their belt every month in order to pay back this debt. He then brings up an old law signed in 1973 called the Giscard-Pompidou-Rothchild. (Giscard and Pompidou are 2 former French presidents, Giscard from 1974 to 1981 and Pompidou (longest tenure so far for a Prime Minister from 1962 to 1968 and later on, French President between 1969 until his death in 1974). No need to introduce the Rothchilds...

Pompidou was also among other things, General Director of the Rothchilds just like Macron, which is like a kind of history repeating itself as Macron was (has been) a banker of the Rothchilds.

What this law stipulates is that it imposes France to borrow money from private banks (at high interest rates of course) and not from the Bank of France at 0% interest.

Between 1980 and 2008, the French national debt ballooned to 1,088 Billion Euros. During that time, France paid back in repayment 1,306 Billion Euros. So with the debt balance from prior to 1980 and with all the payments made from 1980 to 2008, this entire debt should have been paid off almost entirely. In 2008, the outstanding balance of the national debt should have been only 21 Billion Euros.

In light of the above, he asked if it's possible to cancel this law of 1973 in the same way that Canada did on January 26, 2015. (not sure if this is true about Canada, if it is, then it must be one of the ONLY sage decisions made by Canada in recent times!).

Canceling this law would allow to pay off this entire debt a lot faster.

Of course, those globalist shills/propagandists at the M6 channel, not only completely ignored the question and moved onto another topic, but they also didn't show the supporting reaction of the public by putting a black screen!!!

This is at the very core of all the problems that most, if not all the countries in the world have been facing. That point needs to be brought up in all these protests not just in France but around Europe and the world in order to get at the VERY root of all our problems: the banking system racket!

In the words of Henry Ford: "If the population understood the banking system, I believe there'd be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
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Another thing that is not getting much coverage (not suprisingly the MSN media won't touch this as it's against their beloved Globalist ideologies), not sure if this has been covered in here but it is paramount that it should be public and that is the unfamous Marrakesh Agreemeent which would open the doors of the Western Countries for unlimited immigration from the 3rd world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7BFwXXTa4I

Today people were protesting against this bill in Ottawa, Canada's capital:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbvc-tuOShY

This bill must not pass as it would basically mean the end of the Western World! Let the people know what this is really about. Of course, the politicians will hide it and do it secretly behind our backs as is their MO since immemorial times.
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The Yellow Vests Movement is spreading around Europe and the World!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s6TrHwf7KE
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(12-09-2018 04:20 PM)Ski pro Wrote:  However, the other thing that I noticed in all my times there is that unfortunately, they don’t have the stomach (on the whole) to actually fight. I saw it night after night after night. Lots of posturing but when it came down to it, the moment to fight and knock the other man down, they would run away.

I wish as much as the next man that this is a revolution but it won’t be. It’ll fade and die and be comprised somehow. You don’t have it France, you’re perpetual losers and your country is too far gone already and doomed to fail. The signs are all around you, just look around you or visit other countries with less socialism.

@Ski pro, If true, I find this deeply depressing. For the simple reason that as an Englishman, I simply can't imagine my friends and neighbours reacting with anything like the force demonstrated here by the French. As a rule, we don't like to cause too much fuss, whereas the French (God bless 'em) always seem so ... animated.

But if the French truly don't have the stomach for a fight, then god help England.

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I could see London as the last domino to fall...

It's incredibly frustrating to see the whole city being slow-boiled while all these liberal dopes watch it happen, but one day the scales will fall, and when they do...
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A picture that could become the MEME of these events:

Make France Great Again!
FREXIT!!!

   
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RE: Paris Yellow Vests
https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/societ...52685.html

Quote:Half of the automatic radars out of service

At least 250 of them have been destroyed and more than 1500 have been vandalized in the last month, according to Europe 1.

This is the other consequence of motorists' anger. Half of the automatic radars have been put out of order in France since 17 November, according to information from Europe 1. At least 250 devices were destroyed, mostly by fire, and more than 1500 were vandalized, covered with paint or plastic, the radio said. These acts were fuelled both by the movement of the yellow vests and the opposition to the 80 km/h new speed limit.
12-10-2018 11:49 AM
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RE: Paris Yellow Vests
Imagine if there was a military coup in the UK...

The Army is a true British demographic, unlike urban civilian populations.

Under the 1% of red trousers wearing old money motherfuckers there are thousands of regular British guys sick of fake wars.
12-10-2018 12:34 PM
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RE: Paris Yellow Vests
^ Wont happen. British people are not revolutionaists like France nor are they pathological like the Germans.

These protests are an indication but how is life day to day in france? Im of the opinion that if the majority of people get 2-3 meals a day and have electricity and water then they wont step out of that zone in order to eradicate the people at the top.
12-10-2018 12:43 PM
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RE: Paris Yellow Vests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85BKDj_1...e=youtu.be

Not sure if this has been shared here before but it clearly states what the end goal is. If there was any doubt as to who is pulling the strings behind the curtains....
12-10-2018 01:26 PM
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