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(10-27-2018 09:55 AM)Turnus Wrote:  From an article in USA Today


USA TODAY: For alleged bomber Cesar Sayoc, the truth was bendable

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/...778580002/

Article is worth the time.

What a pitiful nutcase.

Post: #127

It’s outrageous that we’ve let the MSM get away with making this the main story of the past week after they memory holed the Steve Scalise shooting. Trump should take Steve out on the campaign trail.

Post: #128

(10-27-2018 09:55 AM)Turnus Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/...778580002/

"Scott Meigs, 52, of West Palm Beach, said he worked alongside Sayoc for two decades at strip clubs all over South Florida and said his colleague had never uttered a word about politics. Until about a month ago."

Yet the obnoxious van with the "Trump-Pence" stickers had (allegedly) been spotted all over Miami-Dade, dating back in 2017. So question is, who was driving the conspicuous van at the time and for which reason? Preparing some misdeed, giving flesh to a false flag?

I mean, it's impossible that Sayoc would be driving the heavily politicized van months ago and not talk to friends and colleagues (or his lawyer, who unless I am mistaken, also denies that Sayoc had ever been interested in politics) about politics. So who was the politically-obsessed driver back then, months ago? Was this mysterious "driver" also in control of, and feeding, the "social media activity" of Sayoc (supposing Sayoc is the real name of the detained man)?

If I had to bet, I would say the Vegas shooter was an activated agent following evil orders, while the Florida fake-bomber was a manipulated dumb gay dude tricked into doing some evil stuff. Question is, who are (or which country is) behind the scenes, manipulating or planning all this (to get rid of enemies or disappear from the news at a crucial moment)? The answer as usual has to be found in, who profits from all this?

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It's odd that the mainstream media doesn't mention that he is a registered Democrat and on Twitter he follows left-wing posters exclusively

Post: #131

https://apnews.com/44e02c75e11346318ada983e1c0dec8e

Quote:Altieri confirmed that Sayoc had been a stripper. On an online resume, Sayoc described himself as a booker and promoter for burlesque shows.

Stacy Saccal, the general manager of the Ultra Gentlemen’s Club in West Palm Beach, said Sayoc had worked there for about two months, first as a floor bouncer and for the past month as a disc jockey — most recently on Thursday night, hours before his arrest Friday morning.

“I didn’t know this guy was mad crazy like this,” she said Friday. “Never once did he speak politics. This is a bar. We don’t talk politics or religion in a bar, you know?”

Quote:Sayoc lived in a white 2002 Dodge Ram van, which was plastered with stickers supporting Trump and criticizing media outlets that included CNN, which was also targeted by mail bombs.

The van was often parked outside an LA Fitness in Aventura, backed up in a parking space under the trees for shade. Patrons say they frequently saw him in the locker room.

“He’d just be walking straight to the shower and be in the shower forever,” said Edgar Lopez, who often exercises at the gym. “I never saw him working out.”

Other times, the van was seen parked at the beach in nearby Hollywood before dawn, with Sayoc stripping down to skin-tight shorts for an outdoor shower.

“I’ve seen the guy maybe 80 times and I never said a word to him because I had a feeling he was a little off,” said Marc Weiss, the superintendent of a building near where Sayoc frequently parked. “I assumed because he was showering at the beach that he was homeless.”

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Apparently, he is a registered Republican. I thought this was a false flag but it now seems more complex or insidious.

The looming question remains about why someone who supports Trump and the Republicans would make a desperate move to scare/injure/kill a bunch of Democrats who have been on the losing end of things for the past few weeks? It hands the Dems a PR victory and could conceivably tip the scales for the house election. Several of the targets are not running or are otherwise irrelevant.

Interestingly, Hillary sort of changed her talk about not being civil to Republicans. If you declare war and fire the first shots, it is not surprising if something comes your way.

The narrative so far is that we have a Republican Trump supporter with a sizeable criminal history who can't seem to get his act together. He's unemployed and homeless and whose fault is that? His? The Democrats who have been out of all power for two years? Or Trump and the Republicans who, under their watch jobs and the economy are doing great overall but not for him?

The false flag made the most sense because such ham-fisted and incompetent terrorism only benefits the Democrats.

It further makes no sense that a bodybuilder/stripper/whatever would up and try his hand at bomb making. And to do it so poorly at that.

There is something more to this story.

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(10-28-2018 03:29 AM)66Scorpio Wrote:  Apparently, he is a registered Republican. I thought this was a false flag but it now seems more complex or insidious....It further makes no sense that a bodybuilder/stripper/whatever would up and try his hand at bomb making. And to do it so poorly at that.

...or - and I know I'm going against the grain of the Everything Else forum here - simple.

A fatherless man-child whose entire life is characterized by spectacular failures at various attention-seeking Wile E. Coyote schemes arrives at his logical destiny, his final spectacular failure at his grandest attention-seeking Wile E. Coyote scheme of all.

If you remove all the assumptions that a conscientious, reasonable, and effective male would rely upon and instead focus on the trajectory of this guy's life - not conscientious, reasonable, or effective - it actually makes a lot of sense.

His former defense attorney was in the Miami Herald yesterday, saying the same thing I suggested about how empty his life was and his desperation to be taken seriously and accepted, even if it meant pretending to be a Seminole:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/c...14565.html

Quote:Lowy described Sayoc as an unsophisticated loner who wanted to impress people but failed at everything he pursued, from strip club dancing to bodybuilding to professional fighting to the dry cleaning business.

“He wasn’t successful in anything he did,” Lowy said. “He’s been bankrupt, gone into foreclosure. He’s 14 years old living in an adult body.”

Sayoc’s claim of affiliation with the Seminole Tribe of Florida was an example of Sayoc’s desire for a sense of belonging. He said Sayoc used to drive a vehicle plastered with Seminole Tribe and Native American stickers and showed him a scrapbook filled with photos of Sayoc as an exotic dancer and aspiring pro wrestler.

“He’s half Filipino, on his father’s side, and he’s half Italian,” Lowy said. “He’s been living and creating this fantasy for a very long time. He’ll deny it’s a fantasy. But I will suggest to you it’s probably a result of emotional issues that come from his father abandoning him and returning to the Philippines when he was a child.

“He wanted a background. He wanted to be liked by people so he created this story.”

Sayoc never got the mental health treatment he needed and refused to seek help even when his family begged him to, Lowy said.

It seems like a stretch to expect that a man who has been consistently terrible at everything he's ever done would suddenly use good judgment when he tries on his final persona as a political activist, or even demonstrate basic craftsmanship when he tries to build a bomb. Trump's campaign worked hard to reach out to people who felt excluded by the establishment, but sometimes people aren't being excluded because the system is rigged against them, rather because they actually just suck and are a burden and a liability to everyone they come in contact with.

I'll happily concede that someone like that could easily be manipulated by a co-conspirator, but I'm not seeing the need for one to explain his actions.

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https://govtslaves.info/2018/10/27/the-w...uccessful/

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2695pl.htm

Post: #136

This guy may not be Seminole, but he's definitely more Native American than Elizabeth Warren.

Post: #137

Heh.
Everyone is more Native American than Fauxahontas.

Post: #138

These false flags are getting sloppier every time.

I wonder if the Pittsburgh massacre was created to cover up for this false flag operation, with all the whacky details starting to emerge. Also puts the Khashoggi butchery in the backburner, along with the recent Israeli bombing of Gaza, very convenient timing...