Post: #151

(10-18-2018 06:12 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  

(10-17-2018 06:10 PM)Going strong Wrote:  An honest question though: "club promoter game", or the fact of sending (as described above by Cattle Rustler) "A smokin hoe going up to other girls at the club and telling them, my boss is hosting an after party", are legitimate, worth-of-praise game strategies? You consider that they are NOT (border-line - or bona fide?) pay-to-play?

Maybe, I'm too old-school, or just not wealthy enough, to fully understand the situations here. As for me, gaming means seducing and convincing a pretty woman to give pleasure and sex, through chatting, smiling, escalating, or maybe (yes, it's the 21st century) by writing her witty and non-threatening (though aimed at pounding her pussy) stuff on a dating site and showing her nice photos on instagram. As to paying a male or female intermediary to "go up to other girls at the club", I consider this, well, not illegal or amoral, but not a gentleman sport anymore.

Of course, you might answer: "who cares about being a gentleman or a sportsman, as long as one gets pretty women in one's bed". And you might be true, sadly.

What's next? Are guys who spend $ on buying nice clothes whore mongers because they are just propping up their inability to use "sick game" on girls? Are all of the guys on this forum whore mongers because at some point they have fucked a girl in a country easier than their hometown after spending money on a plane ticket?

No need to discredit what other guys are doing just because you don't have it. At the end of the day girls are always going to have personal reasons on why they want to fuck a guy and these days game only plays a small part of those reasons.

No need to be disingenuous either. I raised doubts exclusively about paying an intermediary to go ask a girl out on one's behalf. I never said anything about buying nice clothes for oneself, or traveling by plane to a pussy paradise (both being intelligent endeavors that I fully endorse and occasionally practice, if you want to know).

Don't you see a difference between sending someone in your employ to go get a girl and bring her to your table - and spending your own money to buy nice clothes and plane tickets to a nice exotic land? I'm sure you do.

Anyway, I have no special interest in this thread; as you guessed I am not a millionaire and thus, all this does not concern me. So, to each his own: I'll wish OP and his wingman best of luck, and abundant pussy.

Post: #152

(10-18-2018 06:12 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  

(10-17-2018 06:10 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Maybe, I'm too old-school, or just not wealthy enough, to fully understand the situations here. As for me, gaming means seducing and convincing a pretty woman to give pleasure and sex, through chatting, smiling, escalating, or maybe (yes, it's the 21st century) by writing her witty and non-threatening (though aimed at pounding her pussy) stuff on a dating site and showing her nice photos on instagram. As to paying a male or female intermediary to "go up to other girls at the club", I consider this, well, not illegal or amoral, but not a gentleman sport anymore.

Of course, you might answer: "who cares about being a gentleman or a sportsman, as long as one gets pretty women in one's bed". And you might be true, sadly.

What's next? Are guys who spend $ on buying nice clothes whore mongers because they are just propping up their inability to use "sick game" on girls? Are all of the guys on this forum whore mongers because at some point they have fucked a girl in a country easier than their hometown after spending money on a plane ticket?

I see both sides here.

I'll never forget being a 20-year old student backpacker in South America. I was traveling on a $1000/month budget, yet still managing to make my way into expensive nightclubs. I'd meet the most wonderful girls at these clubs, and lacking a phone, I'd have them write down their numbers in my notepad. I'd then call them from pay phones the next day and invite them to go on walks. Not for a second did I feel like I was being cheap or unaccommodating. It all felt natural and fulfilling. Long gone are those days.

Fast forward 10 years and hundreds of conquests later, and I still find myself in fancy nightclubs, but now I'm staring at $1000 bills. I'm well-dressed, I've got the latest smartphone, and I'm still as charming as I was then. But I can no longer enjoy the company of a female stranger without worrying about what fancy restaurant I'll have to take her to next. (Disclaimer: For the past year I've been living in the city with perhaps the world's highest ratio of gold diggers per capita). I can't say I'm pulling that much higher quality. I sure as hell can't say I'm any happier.

Shimmy is absolutely right that there's more than one way to succeed in the sexual marketplace, just as there's more than one way to accomplish lots of things. It's true that we should embrace all the tools in our arsenal, not just one. Not just game, but not just cash.

So GS's thought resonates with me also: when you start approaching human interactions from the perspective of a businessman (e.g. calculating $ spent/bang, hiring others to do your dirty work, heavily relying on financial resources to seduce), the logical outcomes, sooner or later, are indifference and lack of fulfillment. In practical terms, you're on the freeway to P4P and depression. I speak only to share my personal experience and observations.

Post: #153

So, one comment I will make is that, the first thing I did after I improved my career success and doubled my salary was hire a personal assistant to make my life easier. I've had two assistants. The first one was great but went back to school. The 2nd one is merely ok, but still a huge help...

Post: #154

(10-19-2018 07:27 AM)Papi Rico Wrote:  

(10-18-2018 06:12 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  

(10-17-2018 06:10 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Maybe, I'm too old-school, or just not wealthy enough, to fully understand the situations here. As for me, gaming means seducing and convincing a pretty woman to give pleasure and sex, through chatting, smiling, escalating, or maybe (yes, it's the 21st century) by writing her witty and non-threatening (though aimed at pounding her pussy) stuff on a dating site and showing her nice photos on instagram. As to paying a male or female intermediary to "go up to other girls at the club", I consider this, well, not illegal or amoral, but not a gentleman sport anymore.

Of course, you might answer: "who cares about being a gentleman or a sportsman, as long as one gets pretty women in one's bed". And you might be true, sadly.

What's next? Are guys who spend $ on buying nice clothes whore mongers because they are just propping up their inability to use "sick game" on girls? Are all of the guys on this forum whore mongers because at some point they have fucked a girl in a country easier than their hometown after spending money on a plane ticket?

I see both sides here.

I'll never forget being a 20-year old student backpacker in South America. I was traveling on a $1000/month budget, yet still managing to make my way into expensive nightclubs. I'd meet the most wonderful girls at these clubs, and lacking a phone, I'd have them write down their numbers in my notepad. I'd then call them from pay phones the next day and invite them to go on walks. Not for a second did I feel like I was being cheap or unaccommodating. It all felt natural and fulfilling. Long gone are those days.

Fast forward 10 years and hundreds of conquests later, and I still find myself in fancy nightclubs, but now I'm staring at $1000 bills. I'm well-dressed, I've got the latest smartphone, and I'm still as charming as I was then. But I can no longer enjoy the company of a female stranger without worrying about what fancy restaurant I'll have to take her to next. (Disclaimer: For the past year I've been living in the city with perhaps the world's highest ratio of gold diggers per capita). I can't say I'm pulling that much higher quality. I sure as hell can't say I'm any happier.

Shimmy is absolutely right that there's more than one way to succeed in the sexual marketplace, just as there's more than one way to accomplish lots of things. It's true that we should embrace all the tools in our arsenal, not just one. Not just game, but not just cash.

So GS's thought resonates with me also: when you start approaching human interactions from the perspective of a businessman (e.g. calculating $ spent/bang, hiring others to do your dirty work, heavily relying on financial resources to seduce), the logical outcomes, sooner or later, are indifference and lack of fulfillment. In practical terms, you're on the freeway to P4P and depression. I speak only to share my personal experience and observations.

You are missing a key element here, which is that society's ability to function without status symbols being factored into every second of life has nosedived significantly. That, plus your own accumulated business acumen and the general jadedness that comes from hundreds of dates, seems to result in what you've mentioned here.

Of course, Going strong's original post simply sheds light on the fact that it's always been this way. Women actively seek resources. It used to be that said resources was a cave and a fire. But make no mistake, the men who provided that had the best choice of women. These days, the game has changed. It's no longer caves and fires but instead Instagram-worthy views and vacations.

The real joke is that for years men have been told that women are the romantic ones, when in reality, it's us men that are sitting here wondering what's gone wrong and what's changed. Women are doing what they have always done, and don't even realize it.

Post: #155

Hey OP,

I'll sell myself in a few points here and would be surprised if anyone actually has better insights than I do for Colombia (Medellin):

1. Was featured on VH1's the Pick up Artist season 2 back in 2008 (I was one of the contestants)
2. Used to game with Mystery, Matador & Neil Strauss back in the day
3. Used to coach for some of the top PUAs
4. Lived in Medellin Colombia for 4 years, quite well connected there; I invest in real estate, and am a permanent resident
5. Owned a photo studio in Rio Sur (Mall in Medellin) and did photo shoots with models from Stock & Informa
6. Good friends and used to party with top instagram models in Medellin

https://www.instagram.com/laurasanchezh_/?hl=en

If you want to play Where's Waldo, I'm in there

I usually lurk here and don't post, try keep low pro, so before accuses me of trolling.....

1. Well connected in IM (Internet Marketing) space, specifically in the adult and mainstream dating niches ( CPA networks, advertisers, affiliates)
2. Well connected in Crypto/blockchain space (Funds and projects based out of SF and Singapore)
3. Know everyone relevant in Medellin (lawyers, real estate agents, the LT gringos, modeling scene)

Can get plenty references from anyone necessary from the items mentioned, that and would be pretty hard to fake being in national television. Glad to share pics (plenty), but over PM

Don't really need the salary, just looking to connect with other young high value individuals looking to explore the expat. OP got a vouch from quite a few people seems to be like a solid guy.

Post: #156

(12-19-2018 08:54 AM)koifish Wrote:  Hey OP,

I'll sell myself in a few points here and would be surprised if anyone actually has better insights than I do for Colombia (Medellin):

1. Was featured on VH1's the Pick up Artist season 2 back in 2008 (I was one of the contestants)
2. Used to game with Mystery, Matador & Neil Strauss back in the day
3. Used to coach for some of the top PUAs
4. Lived in Medellin Colombia for 4 years, quite well connected there; I invest in real estate, and am a permanent resident
5. Owned a photo studio in Rio Sur (Mall in Medellin) and did photo shoots with models from Stock & Informa
6. Good friends and used to party with top instagram models in Medellin

https://www.instagram.com/laurasanchezh_/?hl=en

If you want to play Where's Waldo, I'm in there

I usually lurk here and don't post, try keep low pro, so before accuses me of trolling.....

1. Well connected in IM (Internet Marketing) space, specifically in the adult and mainstream dating niches ( CPA networks, advertisers, affiliates)
2. Well connected in Crypto/blockchain space (Funds and projects based out of SF and Singapore)
3. Know everyone relevant in Medellin (lawyers, real estate agents, the LT gringos, modeling scene)

Can get plenty references from anyone necessary from the items mentioned, that and would be pretty hard to fake being in national television. Glad to share pics (plenty), but over PM

Don't really need the salary, just looking to connect with other young high value individuals looking to explore the expat. OP got a vouch from quite a few people seems to be like a solid guy.

Hey koifish, you are so awesome.

Post: #157

Hey guys, if you're trying to PM me, can't respond for first week due to forum policy, please do not misconstrue for being rude, cheers and talk soon

Post: #158

This is not a job that any man should take.

There is nothing wrong with employment per se, in fact great satisfaction and pride as a man can be had even from simple employment offered by another man. Dig that ditch for $100, and do a good job and clean the tools when you are done. However simple or menial it is an even exchange with no pretending and no violation of who the man is as a man as employee.

This job however is "pretend" to be my friend, participate in "made up" social interactions and manipulations, and put aside your pride in accomplishment to get a few bucks. In essence, be a bitch for another man. This job alleviates the responsibility on the part of the employer to find actual friends and roll with them on an equal basis, and turns the employee into a sniveling little excuse of a man, constantly reacting to and following the employers whims, personal demands all while knowing they both are a fraud in thier "role." Note that the OP wants to "see" which friends he can place in this "role." Know that no friend would ever do this ever, and the OP wants you to jump into action and apply before he has a bunch of applicants. As long as you meet all the must be must must be...

The guy that will do this is a male whore for another man presumably without the sex, and is a defacto fag, specifically the catcher. A real friend would be an equal and they would have to do as guys do agree as equals who will chat up which girls, but here, the employee is a subject and can only perform the act of approaching in service of the boss's dick. Any pussy the employee gets is secondary and also in service of the employer. Can you imagine fucking a girl knowing you are doing it to get another man off?

Post: #159

Interesting job offer. I also need somebody who supports me during my trips, but I'm thinking about some ghostwriters who could tinder for me when I am busy with having dates (however, won't search someone via this forum).

But my suggestion in regard to this job offer: why don't you just buy a cool villa for 2-3 months at your preferred location and invite everyone on the forum here to visit you. Each day/night, you will go out with a new guy/multiple guys to finally find out who you match best with. Even if you won't find your perfect match, it will be an interesting and fun experience for everyone, even for you, as you will meet lots of interesting new people.

I guess most people would be quite interested in visiting you because:

a) accomodation would be free for all invitees
b) people could meet other people and go out together
c) they just have to pay the plane ticket and local expenses (food, club entries..)
d) 2-3 month window would guarantee that most could find time to come..

You'd just have to communicate clearly that only 1 person will get the job (if at all), so nobody should be unhappy about not getting the job in the end.

p.s. the worst thing that can happen is that some people may just pretend to be interested in the job but are actually rather interested in free accomodation in the end (but there are strategies to avoid that..).

Post: #160

OP, I would really recommend going back to the drawing board and re-define what you are looking for. As an external consultant, I would like to ask the following questions:

- What is it what you r e a l l y want? To have a person (or more than one) actually doing all these jobs and errands for you? Or would you like to have "staff", to whom you can refer to as "I have a man for does XYZ for me", which does indeed have its own bragging potential. This is serious question.

- What you describe sounds a bit as if you are trying to have three jobs done by one person. 1. the wingman (= reliable, needs to be fine with being #2 or getting no action at all, should look too different from you), the gofer/admin guy (ideally speaks local language, has connections, can make things happen, access, networks) and the security guy (willing to take a hit for you, risk his health). These three roles require entirely different types of people.

- You come across as somewhat wishy-washy about the terms of employment. Cash is king, and your offer is a job, first and foremost, exotic location or not. Given your specific requirements, I would guess that you would really need to amp this up. And frankly, the opportunity to be mentored by you and learn more about your business (what is it? why the secrecy?) is nice, but only "nice".

Think about these three points.

In particular the first one. To me it sounds a bit as if you are quite in love with the i d e a of being that G Manifesto character who has "his man" for wing manning it with him, but I am not so sure if you are really prepared to own up to your promises. Take this from an older man, without irony or sarcasm.

Post: #161

(12-19-2018 08:54 AM)koifish Wrote:  I'll sell myself in a few points here and would be surprised if anyone actually has better insights than I do for Colombia (Medellin):

1. Was featured on VH1's the Pick up Artist season 2 back in 2008 (I was one of the contestants)
2. Used to game with Mystery, Matador & Neil Strauss back in the day
3. Used to coach for some of the top PUAs
4. Lived in Medellin Colombia for 4 years, quite well connected there; I invest in real estate, and am a permanent resident
5. Owned a photo studio in Rio Sur (Mall in Medellin) and did photo shoots with models from Stock & Informa
6. Good friends and used to party with top instagram models in Medellin
https://www.instagram.com/laurasanchezh_/?hl=en
1. Well connected in IM (Internet Marketing) space, specifically in the adult and mainstream dating niches ( CPA networks, advertisers, affiliates)
2. Well connected in Crypto/blockchain space (Funds and projects based out of SF and Singapore)
3. Know everyone relevant in Medellin (lawyers, real estate agents, the LT gringos, modeling scene)

Can get plenty references from anyone necessary from the items mentioned, that and would be pretty hard to fake being in national television. Glad to share pics (plenty), but over PM

Don't really need the salary, just looking to connect with other young high value individuals looking to explore the expat. OP got a vouch from quite a few people seems to be like a solid guy.

Bro, u there????

I'm always looking to self improve and build social circle... Would it be possible to meet up?? I won't get in your way... I'll just follow you around with a note pad all day... get coffees and drinks for you etc???