Post: #1

Ive seen a lot of players here post about how many girls they meet for casual sex on their travels, Ons are a bit of waste imo, i tend to have one or two quality girls i spend time with and repeat bangs/meeting with, if i dislike a girl why should i have sex with her? If you have a new girl every day and you pump and dump what is the goal? Remember if you constantly pump and dump she will treat the next guy she meets the same way you treated her, some girls are actually just looking for sex and thats fine, but if a girl wants to meet again why not? i can understand the need for variation, but it seems theres a lot of sex addicts on this forum

Post: #2

For me, I had the aim to score 100 girls in my life. That is, why I sometimes ignored quality on my way. Have recently made it, since then I see things more relaxed and am less focussed on that aim. I told myself I will only go for better quality and flags now. Dont feel the need anymore of all the time having somebody. Feels good.

Post: #3

Lika91, if you ignored quality over quantity you certaintly missed a chance for a possible LTR with a great girl too,wich is not so easy to find

Post: #4

(10-03-2018 05:10 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  Lika91, if you ignored quality over quantity you certaintly missed a chance for a possible LTR with a great girl too,wich is not so easy to find

Depends. Only because you go for quantity does not necessarily mean you dont have quality. I claim that I had a relationship with a very hot and qualitive girl recently.

But right now I would agree with your statement more, that its worth it to go for more quality.

On the other hands, the 6s and 6.5s on your scale have more often this dirty attitude, where sex is just extremely good. This is from my experience more rare for hotter girls.

Post: #5

This is such a complicated question - man has thought about this for thousands of years.

When I first started gaming, quantity was everything. I wanted to increase my notch count as fast as I could. Even after fucking a few dozen, I was obsessed with notch count.

But after a while, I started asking myself what the point was of fucking just a decent girl. At the same time, I had gotten laid enough that the excitement in getting a new lay just wasn't as high anymore. I had fucked so many just-decent girls and I had accomplished that already. With all my fucks, I had conquered the decent girls.

I now wanted the quality. The hot girls. So now I'm more of a quality guy. And that's where I'm at now. Not only have I not accomplished the high quality girls yet, but I feel as though I am much more proud of the time that I fucked a hot girl than the 5 times I fucked a decent looking girl.

My thoughts.

Post: #6

I go for quality when traveling. Usually you get a huge boost from being exotic/out of the country, if you play your cards right, there is no real reason to settle for equal or worse to what you could get at home. There are a lot of things you will remember about your travels, would you rather look back and have blurry memories of banging dogfaces, or a single unforgettable lay? I think the later will give you a more positive experience.

That said, I aim to capture the flag as a numerical thing, so I'll settle for one encounter, but the rest will need to be quality or I may as well just go try good food or explore the nightlife or go sight-seeing.

Post: #7

To the OP.

When a man is inexperienced he should go for quality and quantity. The reason is, in order to achieve advanced game and advanced understanding of oneself, man has to learn through experiences.

In terms of "high quality" women and even "high quality" men, there simply isn't a high enough supply of both of them, especially in 2018 with our current cultural climate in west. However there is a high demand for quality women and men. Hence why, if a man is shooting only for high quality women, he could remain sexless for a long period of time. That is when quantity has a role to play.

Men who practice self-development can learn a lot from going for quality and quantity, each time building and growing his SMV and confidence, therefore getting higher quality and so forth the cycle goes.

In order to be ready for the big leagues, one has to dominate the minor leagues.

After a man's got a high SMV and enough legendary stories, then it's likely that 6s simply won't be worth his time. When a man's time becomes worth hundreds or thousands of dollars per hour, then it's likely he will start to reject 6s, even for ONS and delivered to his place... and he'll reject even 7s or 8s with bad attitudes, because they become a liability to his time and energy.

And I understand the sentiment of what you're asking, and I agree it's true that if more men shunned low quality girls instead of thirsting for them then it would help society a lot. But also remember, not to be too overly self-righteous with criticising another man's choice in women. Because for example, you may classify a girl that you're with as high quality, but another man may classify her as low quality.

"One man's trash is another man's treasure".

Despite all the indoctrination and propaganda forced upon us since a young age, it is important to remember that men and women are biologically and neurologically different. And that's why this following quote is so truthful and red pill:

"Men have to create their value, women have to protect their value"
- @AlphaRivelino (twitter).

Post: #8

How do you define "quality"? I think a great bang with a decent looking girl is a high quality experience.

Not only that but it gets your mojo up so that when a better looking girl comes along she's just another chick. I find that I get the best quality when I'm also going through a lot of girls and my mojo is strong.

You won't be quite as apt to pick up a girl with options if your game isn't strong, and that's a muscle you need to exercise.

If your time is worth thousands of dollars then you need to have instagram ho's delivered to your door nightly to keep the machinery working at capacity.

Post: #9

(10-03-2018 07:14 PM)Crash_Bandicoot Wrote:  This is such a complicated question - man has thought about this for thousands of years.

When I first started gaming, quantity was everything. I wanted to increase my notch count as fast as I could. Even after fucking a few dozen, I was obsessed with notch count.

But after a while, I started asking myself what the point was of fucking just a decent girl. At the same time, I had gotten laid enough that the excitement in getting a new lay just wasn't as high anymore. I had fucked so many just-decent girls and I had accomplished that already. With all my fucks, I had conquered the decent girls.

I now wanted the quality. The hot girls. So now I'm more of a quality guy. And that's where I'm at now. Not only have I not accomplished the high quality girls yet, but I feel as though I am much more proud of the time that I fucked a hot girl than the 5 times I fucked a decent looking girl.

My thoughts.

AMEN.

This is EXACTLY where I am now in the game. Tired of hearing guys brag to me about notches too when you have no idea what the quality is. Like getting a notch is any kind of accomplishment when you been in the game for years. After youve been in the game so long and gotten so many notches you really shouldn't have to deal with lower level girls anymore.

I ended up in bed with 5 or so (chubby dutch chick) a few weeks ago through 5am drunk gutter game and I woke up feeling empty and like ABSOLUTELY garbage because I KNOW I can and have done better than that.

Its like a professional athlete who has a bad game.


I will fuck one HB8 over five HB6 girls anyday of the week! That extra makes all the difference.

Post: #10

(10-04-2018 07:00 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  AMEN.

This is EXACTLY where I am now in the game. Tired of hearing guys brag to me about notches too when you have no idea what the quality is. Like getting a notch is any kind of accomplishment when you been in the game for years. After youve been in the game so long and gotten so many notches you really shouldn't have to deal with lower level girls anymore.

I ended up in bed with 5 or so (chubby dutch chick) a few weeks ago through 5am drunk gutter game and I woke up feeling empty and like ABSOLUTELY garbage because I KNOW I can and have done better than that.

Its like a professional athlete who has a bad game.

When I made my first pussy paradise trip, I was all about the notches. To an extent, I kept that attitude for a while after coming back. But recently, I ended a dry streak with a non-western girl that fell in my lap. Maybe the easiest and most eager to have sex with me I've ever had. Not my ugliest girl and got a new flag, but I realized that mentally, this was doing nothing for me. She didn't come close to my previous best and she was in the 4-5 range.

What I'm realizing is that sex is a biological need that has to be filled, but you do know the difference when you're eating oatmeal versus a good steak. Or like a star athlete that gets by with a .200 average with his team winning, but has hit over .300 in past seasons with a World Series while barely being 30 years old.

Sometimes you feel worse eating bad food despite knowing it gets the monkey off your back to survive. Same thing with a girl that doesn't really do it for you. Made me think about my best past partners and even then, I was happy with some of the better looking girls, but my highlights are the 2-3 women that I did more than sex with. I guess I'm a guy that maxes out quality with a girl that I can mentally connect with. When I think about past notches, I've had a couple of better looking girls, but those 2-3 women are the ones I definitely think of most often.

Post: #11

In order to play in the big leagues, you have to be the best at the lower leagues. At the begining you want to improve your game, so you will try yourself with all the women you find attractive and get rejected a thousand times to score a couple and the more you score, the more quality you will want. At some point you will find only worth it to focus your effort and time on the quality, becuase it will not be worth it anymore with not so good looking girls.

Post: #12

I usually go for 5s or bangable girls, because the odds to bang are higher and it's a realistic option.

If you go for quality, sorry, but you will end up shagless with bad memories.

Post: #13

(10-05-2018 07:39 AM)weallbang5s Wrote:  I usually go for 5s or bangable girls, because the odds to bang are higher and it's a realistic option.

If you go for quality, sorry, but you will end up shagless with bad memories.

That sounds terrible. I haven't found that to be the case at all.

Don't go into business for yourself if you think like that.

In business that would be like going after crap clients because you know you can seal the deal. When going after much better clients is less work and much more money.

I always find more fun and success with women that challenge me.

I appreciate the reward. And it makes me better each time.

Don't go for these 4s and 5s. They will bring you down. Keep going for better. You'll appreciate it more.

Post: #14

On my last trip to monterrey I'll admit I went for quantity since it was my first time there I just wanted to see how many chicks I could bang in 4 days. I got 3 notches but 2/3 were low quality..one I was even embarrassed to be seen with the next day. I had fun, but next time I go I'll focus a lot more on quality even if it means getting one or no lays.

Post: #15

I feel the same way brotha!

When I first got to Bangkok, I banged 4 girls in 4 days.
I realized this is unnatural and I actually wanted to spend time with the same girl (granted she was better looking), rather than just stack bodies. This is pretty much the game I do when traveling. Quality over quantity. Nothing like a local girl showing you around her city and culture.

If you really think about it, quality is what we lack in the west. Sure, it can be hard to lay a decent looking girl here, but to lay one whos decent looking AND wants to connect with you? Rare. Enjoy the quality abroad!

Post: #16

Usually guys follow a quantity-to-quality pattern when they travel on extended trips.

First they go for the quantity. 5 girls in the first week, two per day, bang bonanza blah blah.

Then they calm down soon after. When they go through so many girls, they're bound to meet one they really connect with. So they spend more time with a few quality girls, or even just one, and invest less time banging other girls.

Post: #17

I've been nomading around the world for 3 years now, spending 1-3 months in every country I go to.

There's a time and a personal phase for both.

I am definitely getting away from quick easy fucks with 6's and more into girls I really like and connect wit. Now I think life is too short to spend any time with average chicks. (or with average people in general)
This means focusing on higher value chicks, getting rejected more, etc but having more rewarding experiences in the end.

But In my 20's I had more stamina and would rather go home with some average anglo backpacker than go home empty handed. Not the case anymore haha.

Post: #18

After 1-2 days you’ll still feel the same about banging a hot girl vs banging an cute girl. Over time, it’s all the same.

Post: #19

In my opinion, people who place excessive emphasis on quantity tend to have narcisisstic issues (self-esteem problems) and are looking for some kind of validation to fill a void.

Post: #20

I think a lot of us follow the same trajectory in our game journeys. You start off in your teens, early 20s with a low notch count and high energy/horniness. Getting laid is a rare thing and an extremely big deal to you. You are desperate to prove something to yourself, and to others and you see notch count is the only real true measure of a man.

Then as you get older, and get a load of notches under your belt. You are more chilled out and realise notches actually don't really mean that much at the end of the day. Sex isn't as much of a big deal any more and you've proved to yourself you can get laid. In addition, your peer group aren't that impressed by notches or just don't care.

You also learn that comparing notch counts becomes a case of 'bigger boat' syndrome ie there'll always be some dude claiming more notches than you. Generally however in my experience I've found guys with extremely high notch counts tend to almost always be either:
(i) lying
(ii) counting hookers
(iii) hogging (ie banging very poor quality)

Ultimately it all becomes a bit meaningless, thus you shift your focus to quality, whatever quality means to you. Naturally then your rate of notches slows due to aiming higher, and if you're anything like me, you find it very difficult to go back down in quality again after you've moved up. Now on a night out I would much rather try and fail with a 9 instead of taking home another forgettable 6.

I coined this term with my mates as 'pyramid theory' - as you move up the quality scale, there's an ever decreasing pool of chicks to aim for. And if you split up with a chick high up on the scale, then (for me at least) I find I only ever really get over her when I am able to get with another girl of equal or higher value on the pyramid. The whole GFTOW thing never really worked for me.

Incidentally I'm finding this an issue just now having recently broken up with my gf who is probably the hottest chick I've been with to date. My mates joke that I apparently rebounded pretty spectacularly, within a few days smashing a couple of girls I had been trying to get with for ages prior to meeting my gf. Whereas before I would've been over the moon, instead I just felt a bit meh about it all.

Flags is another thing. It's all a bit of fun and all but I've seen guys really scrape the barrel just because it would mean a new flag to the collection. In the end its cool for the novelty factor but if you take it too seriously it just diverts you away from your real true goals

Post: #21

You need to have experienced quantity to move on to quality. In your twenties you go for quantity, and afterwards if you're not a dork, you have the skills and confidence to go after the real bounty, the hot quality girls, models and cheerleader types. First practice with 6's, then aim higher! In your 30s you should be aiming for 8's unless you are on a dry spell for some reason and therefore low on confidence.

Post: #22

Ok that was a nice theory but in practice it's probably just that you have more money after 30, thus more resources to increase your perceived SMV and more time to chase girls. Thus you have more options than below 30.

But lose your money and go back to live in your small hometown and I bet you'll suddenly become horny again and want to fuck every thing that moves. You'll soon forget your stories about being a more mature and chilled out man who doesn't touch 6s.

Post: #23

I never said I don't touch 6s, occasionally I do, also I live in big cities not "small towns" but forget that : it's not about money here, well money is part of the equation but mostly in your 30s you're just more attractive to women for several reasons. You're less likely to be a jerk or live with your parents (duh), you're more ripped, you're a better lover and your life is more interesting : places you've been, things you've done. It's a mix of several things not easily summed up and money is just one of them. Also you have practiced game for longer, it's just logical

Post: #24

(10-11-2018 10:50 AM)fuckboy_horny_facesitting Wrote:  Ok that was a nice theory but in practice it's probably just that you have more money after 30, thus more resources to increase your perceived SMV and more time to chase girls. Thus you have more options than below 30.

But lose your money and go back to live in your small hometown and I bet you'll suddenly become horny again and want to fuck every thing that moves. You'll soon forget your stories about being a more mature and chilled out man who doesn't touch 6s.

So to get hotter girls the only thing that matters is how much money you have, and you have loads more spare time in your 30s

Ok, got it...

Post: #25

If you're an average 20-something without resources to be location independent, who can't afford a cool lifestyle, it only makes sense that you'll get more options as you evolve to the average 30-something guy who can afford more things in life, travel, style, do bang trips in a 3rd world city every weekend...