Post: #76

(09-22-2018 01:46 PM)wi30 Wrote:  Who tells a hooker their real name?

In the Sugar Baby field, it's fairly common.

Post: #77

One of my friends is a Prosecutor, he said if it stays a state charge he is looking at 10 years (due to the solicitation of a minor, more so than the statutory rape) do 3 in prison parole/probation on 7. He said if it is federal he could easily do 8-15 years and would more than 90 percent of that time in prison.

Post: #78

(09-22-2018 04:26 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(09-22-2018 04:04 PM)Lotus Wrote:  Cody W is in trouble because a) girl is 16, and AOC is 17 in Texas, and b) he paid the bitch, and a prostitute/sex worker has to be 18 or over.



AOC are listed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_co...ted_States

Blue: 16
Olive: 17
Light Green: 18

(AOC is 16 across Canada.)

The best defense against statutory rape seems to deny that any sex occurred, and obviously emphasize the girl lied about her age.

Her lying about her age is irrelevant, it's a "strict liability" crime, if she's underage, you're on the hook. The only thing you might accomplish is to look slightly less creepy to jury, but legally it's irrelevant for guilt or innocence.

And this being the case, asking for and seeing an convincing I.D. wouldn't help this guy either.

If we lived in villages on a more human scale, a law like this would make sense, making the adult male completely responsible for knowing who he is sleeping with.

Of course, in this mythical village, men would have a lot more power than they do now, so it would make sense. More authority translates to more responsibility. It is on you to know who you are sleeping with.

It is like there is a historical lag time, and even though any whiff of patriarchy is gone, men are still held accountable to that high standard.

It goes without saying that a law like this would also enforce monogamy quite tidily as well.

How it makes sense in a hyper-sexualized degenerate culture is beyond me, but those are the rules of the game, and any guy who likes to go out with young women would be wise to do some research on anyone you plan to sack up, and not leave it to random impulses the end of a boozy night.

Remember too that teen girls are in a much bigger hurry to be adults than young men are, and many will start lying about their age as soon as they can get away with it. I remember talking about high school with a girl I knew, and at 15, when I was only a couple years past building forts in the backyard, she was already lying about her age hitchhiking into the big city to get into clubs.

Passing as older was firmly entrenched as part of her self image by then, and once that happens there is no way she will tell the truth.

Post: #79

When is someone going to start a "asking for ID without scaring the cat" thread in the Game forum? (I would but I only have "buy me some smokes" that rely on the Indian at the convenience store checking the ID himself, which they often don't)

Edit: Such a thread could easily be used to attack us as "pedophiles" even though it would clearly be an anti-statutory rape thread, so maybe private forum

Post: #80

Even if a girl shows you her ID, do you know how easy it is to get a very realistic counterfeit from China? The same machines that are sold to U.S. DMV offices here in the states get the same equipment the counterfeiters do. Bottom line is, if she looks too young to be legal, or if it is even slightly in question, you had better walk away.

Post: #81

delete.

Agree with Godfather Dust.

Post: #82

(09-22-2018 05:37 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Even if a girl shows you her ID, do you know how easy it is to get a very realistic counterfeit from China? The same machines that are sold to U.S. DMV offices here in the states get the same equipment the counterfeiters do. Bottom line is, if she looks too young to be legal, or if it is even slightly in question, you had better walk away.

Post: #83

(09-22-2018 05:37 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Even if a girl shows you her ID, do you know how easy it is to get a very realistic counterfeit from China? The same machines that are sold to U.S. DMV offices here in the states get the same equipment the counterfeiters do. Bottom line is, if she looks too young to be legal, or if it is even slightly in question, you had better walk away.

The "looks to be too young" category is like 13-15, 16 for late-bloomers especially with all the hormones in food. So you have basically a 3 year period where you are fucked for misjudging.

Post: #84

The age on consent in Canada is a lot more complicated than “16”.

There are many factors like the older person can’t be in a position of authority, which can be interpreted however many ways. There are also some age difference factors that I don’t recall the specifics of.

I had a colleague back in the day whose over developed 15 year old niece I would see regularly in bars and clubs around town. Getting served. If I didn’t know she was 15 I would have never, ever guessed it.

So easy to make fake ID these days too. Just altering a legit ID in Photoshop can be nearly flawless.

I can’t believe the police would send an underage girl out with the express intention of entraping a certain high profile individual, but I can easily believe the parents found out and after their initial outrage, and likely refusal to hold their daughter accountable for her own actions (the bad man must have corrupted the innocent angel) surely they were motivated by $$$.

Post: #85

Guy is rich via bitcoin.

If he's smart he dumps a mil in this cunt's lap via an intermediary and she recants.

If she's dumb then she's already given a sworn statement that the feds will hold her to. Chances are she was smart enough to figure out he was rich but dumb enough not to realise he was a political target and that the feds would not just shrug their shoulders and walk away if she pulled the standard cunt move of telling then "oh, ever since this Bentley turned up in my driveway I can't seem to remember shit".

Dumb fuck should have known better. I get it, that a multimillionairre with a few projects might not consider it worth his time to work for sex, but if you're renting the cunt on a lease then you tell her to bring her fucking birth certificate with her.

I'm guessing he gave her a real name or one close enough that when she googled him she got a proper pic and the whore realised she'd hit gold. Possible she's already tried to blackmail him and her price was too high or he refused on principle.

Still, what can you say. Those who live by the decline risk dying by the decline.

Post: #86

Most likely THEY knew he was on the site already. THEY also knew she was under age using the site. It wasn't hard to piece the trap together from there.

Some shady Deep State goons show up and scare the piss out of a 15yo girl and the next step is easy. They must have intimidated her father as well, what kind of dad would let his daughter be whored out like that.

Post: #87

The question still remains:

- did she contact him first (in which case, it's 100% a frame job) or
- did he find her by browsing randomly and then calling her (in which case, he just randomly fucked up and destroyed himself).

I think it's likely he found her randomly. But I'd like for it to be confirmed.

Post: #88

Thanks Gf Dust for pointing out US AOC laws have false bottoms.

I looked up info available on the websites of law firms established in various US states. (Google search)

Here's the recap:

If girl is 18, it's all good.

If girl has reached AOC but is younger than 18, the only defense is to prove the defendant (the older male) reasonably believed the girl was 18 or over. if the defendant can prove that, case is dismissed. (I didn't check for the 50 states)

If girl hasn't reached AOC, the only defense is to claim (even if it's a lie!) there was no penetration or sexual contact. Then it's the defendant's word against the girl's, which is why it's relevant to remind the court she lied about her age, even though the case won't be dismissed based on that info.

Canadian AOC laws can't be more twisted than that, the single fact AOC is the same for the whole country attests to it (position of authority cases are exceptions, not the rule).

Post: #89

He resigned as head of Defense Distributed to work through his sugar daddy legal issues.

The new head of Defense Distributed is a woman named Pamola Heindorff. She’s a poet from London and worked in NYC. I’m curious to watch and see how this moves forward. That’s a strange background for someone to have to lead a company like Defense Distributed.

Post: #90

(09-26-2018 12:09 PM)frozen-ace Wrote:  He resigned as head of Defense Distributed to work through his sugar daddy legal issues.

The new head of Defense Distributed is a woman named Pamola Heindorff. She’s a poet from London and worked in NYC. I’m curious to watch and see how this moves forward. That’s a strange background for someone to have to lead a company like Defense Distributed.

I'm sure the plans are backed up/will be torrented. Obviously a London NYC female poet only cares about "free bleeding" when it comes to free speech and will destroy the plans in the company offices.

Post: #91

(09-26-2018 12:09 PM)frozen-ace Wrote:  He resigned as head of Defense Distributed to work through his sugar daddy legal issues.

The new head of Defense Distributed is a woman named Pamola Heindorff. She’s a poet from London and worked in NYC. I’m curious to watch and see how this moves forward. That’s a strange background for someone to have to lead a company like Defense Distributed.

I've met Paloma, she's pretty sharp.

Currently the top product from them is a desktop CNC mill optimized for finishing 80% AR-15 & AR-10 lowers and 1911 frames. At $1500 it's got quite a markup over the cost to build, Chinese CNC kits can be built a lot cheaper, but they require a lot more work.

Post: #92

I've spent time on sites like Fetlife and Collarme (Collarspace). There are lots of girls on there lying about their age. There are some who claim to be 18 and have been on the sites for over a year.

I am not sure how one would achieve age verification. A credit card would be a good start though.

I know a woman who spent a night in jail for serving alcohol to a minor. I once saw a friend of mine come into a hotel bar and try to lie to our bartender about his age. I also covered for a bartender once when the so-called underage person vandalized something at the bar.

If you pretend to be older than you are, then the police should treat you as such. Stop blaming bartenders, cashiers, and other people. Put the blame on the person who tells the lie.

Some years ago, there was also a case in which a teen girl in Las Vegas stole her older sister's work ID. It was in bad shape, so she went to the government office and had the pictures reshot. She then started stripping. The club got off because it was a valid ID. If it had simply been a homemade fake ID, the club would have been fucked.

Such people should also be allowed to sue the girls' parents.

Post: #93

(09-29-2018 08:26 PM)puckerman Wrote:  I've spent time on sites like Fetlife and Collarme (Collarspace). There are lots of girls on there lying about their age. There are some who claim to be 18 and have been on the sites for over a year.

I am not sure how one would achieve age verification. A credit card would be a good start though.

I know a woman who spent a night in jail for serving alcohol to a minor. I once saw a friend of mine come into a hotel bar and try to lie to our bartender about his age. I also covered for a bartender once when the so-called underage person vandalized something at the bar.

If you pretend to be older than you are, then the police should treat you as such. Stop blaming bartenders, cashiers, and other people. Put the blame on the person who tells the lie.

Some years ago, there was also a case in which a teen girl in Las Vegas stole her older sister's work ID. It was in bad shape, so she went to the government office and had the pictures reshot. She then started stripping. The club got off because it was a valid ID. If it had simply been a homemade fake ID, the club would have been fucked.

Such people should also be allowed to sue the girls' parents.

I know quite a few people with one child who is hell on wheels, and their other children are well behaved and they go on to be responsible adults.

There's nothing you can do with the hell on wheels child. You can bribe them, punish them, engage them in activities to try to bond with them and build character (teach them a skilled trade, teach them to play an instrument, take them to boy scouts, take them to church, play video games with them, go camping, take them to a couple years of karate classes). Nothing seems to make a difference to get them to stop fucking up.

These kids will find the worst friends on the world and rob a liquor store, shoot up heroin, get their girlfriends pregnant, punch their probation officer, and sell fentanyl laced heroin that ends up killing someone.

I've been there as the parent, and I've known families with the good and bad kids from the time I was a teenager myself until my 50's. I've found the ones who were bad kids and fuck ups all their lives often don't survive their 50's. I've found that often the parents are both responsible adults, but one or both of them have a parent or sibling that was a hell on wheels type. I think It's genetic to some degree, with some kids getting the bad genes, and some being lucky enough to avoid them.

I definitely disagree with being able to sue parents over their kids behavior. Just throw the kids in jail.

Post: #94

(09-29-2018 09:06 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  There's nothing you can do with the hell on wheels child. You can bribe them, punish them, engage them in activities to try to bond with them and build character (teach them a skilled trade, teach them to play an instrument, take them to boy scouts, take them to church, play video games with them, go camping, take them to a couple years of karate classes). Nothing seems to make a difference to get them to stop fucking up.

It's hard to say. I don't think anyone is hopeless though.

If i had a kid like this, I would send them to an ayahuasca retreat for a couple weeks. First, they would totally disconnected during the time--no phone, no Internet. Plus, the kids would see what poverty really looks like.

The kids would probably go willingly because they would see it as an adventure. Plus, they would be intrigued by doing something "rebellious." Grandmother ayahuasca would give them a good spanking.

Post: #95

(09-19-2018 04:16 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  The article posted says the girl was under 17, Roosh, not 17. Under 17 is illegal in Texas. Even if she was of age, if you're going to be paying escorts, a.k.a., prostitutes, you should expect that you may have problems in your life that you wouldn't have to deal with otherwise.

This is a clear case of "If you play in the mud, you're going to get dirty."

Also, who has sex with a hooker that's 16 or less? That's really, really messed up. Having sex with a hooker is bad enough, not my cup of tea, and if you're disabled or something, who am I to judge, but an underage hooker, 16 or less? That's really, really messed up.

16 and sometimes younger is legal in most of the world where prostitution is legal. I'm not defending it, but America is one of the few places where this underage whore is going to come away with a big pay day from extorting this guy while being pedestalized as an innocent "survivor" despite being a deceitful whore amongst other things.

Post: #96

(09-29-2018 09:06 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

(09-29-2018 08:26 PM)puckerman Wrote:  I've spent time on sites like Fetlife and Collarme (Collarspace). There are lots of girls on there lying about their age. There are some who claim to be 18 and have been on the sites for over a year.

I am not sure how one would achieve age verification. A credit card would be a good start though.

I know a woman who spent a night in jail for serving alcohol to a minor. I once saw a friend of mine come into a hotel bar and try to lie to our bartender about his age. I also covered for a bartender once when the so-called underage person vandalized something at the bar.

If you pretend to be older than you are, then the police should treat you as such. Stop blaming bartenders, cashiers, and other people. Put the blame on the person who tells the lie.

Some years ago, there was also a case in which a teen girl in Las Vegas stole her older sister's work ID. It was in bad shape, so she went to the government office and had the pictures reshot. She then started stripping. The club got off because it was a valid ID. If it had simply been a homemade fake ID, the club would have been fucked.

Such people should also be allowed to sue the girls' parents.

I know quite a few people with one child who is hell on wheels, and their other children are well behaved and they go on to be responsible adults.

There's nothing you can do with the hell on wheels child. You can bribe them, punish them, engage them in activities to try to bond with them and build character (teach them a skilled trade, teach them to play an instrument, take them to boy scouts, take them to church, play video games with them, go camping, take them to a couple years of karate classes). Nothing seems to make a difference to get them to stop fucking up.

These kids will find the worst friends on the world and rob a liquor store, shoot up heroin, get their girlfriends pregnant, punch their probation officer, and sell fentanyl laced heroin that ends up killing someone.

I've been there as the parent, and I've known families with the good and bad kids from the time I was a teenager myself until my 50's. I've found the ones who were bad kids and fuck ups all their lives often don't survive their 50's. I've found that often the parents are both responsible adults, but one or both of them have a parent or sibling that was a hell on wheels type. I think It's genetic to some degree, with some kids getting the bad genes, and some being lucky enough to avoid them.

I definitely disagree with being able to sue parents over their kids behavior. Just throw the kids in jail.

Preach brother.

Trying to raise a sociopath kid is like being the victim of a false rape accusation.

No one will ever understand who hasn't been through it, but everyone thinks they got it all figured out.

And everyone looks at you the same way.

I hope there is a reward in heaven for that, because there ain't shit down here.

Post: #97

(09-29-2018 09:06 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

(09-29-2018 08:26 PM)puckerman Wrote:  I've spent time on sites like Fetlife and Collarme (Collarspace). There are lots of girls on there lying about their age. There are some who claim to be 18 and have been on the sites for over a year.

I am not sure how one would achieve age verification. A credit card would be a good start though.

I know a woman who spent a night in jail for serving alcohol to a minor. I once saw a friend of mine come into a hotel bar and try to lie to our bartender about his age. I also covered for a bartender once when the so-called underage person vandalized something at the bar.

If you pretend to be older than you are, then the police should treat you as such. Stop blaming bartenders, cashiers, and other people. Put the blame on the person who tells the lie.

Some years ago, there was also a case in which a teen girl in Las Vegas stole her older sister's work ID. It was in bad shape, so she went to the government office and had the pictures reshot. She then started stripping. The club got off because it was a valid ID. If it had simply been a homemade fake ID, the club would have been fucked.

Such people should also be allowed to sue the girls' parents.

I know quite a few people with one child who is hell on wheels, and their other children are well behaved and they go on to be responsible adults.

There's nothing you can do with the hell on wheels child. You can bribe them, punish them, engage them in activities to try to bond with them and build character (teach them a skilled trade, teach them to play an instrument, take them to boy scouts, take them to church, play video games with them, go camping, take them to a couple years of karate classes). Nothing seems to make a difference to get them to stop fucking up.

These kids will find the worst friends on the world and rob a liquor store, shoot up heroin, get their girlfriends pregnant, punch their probation officer, and sell fentanyl laced heroin that ends up killing someone.

I've been there as the parent, and I've known families with the good and bad kids from the time I was a teenager myself until my 50's. I've found the ones who were bad kids and fuck ups all their lives often don't survive their 50's. I've found that often the parents are both responsible adults, but one or both of them have a parent or sibling that was a hell on wheels type. I think It's genetic to some degree, with some kids getting the bad genes, and some being lucky enough to avoid them.

I definitely disagree with being able to sue parents over their kids behavior. Just throw the kids in jail.

Yep. Seen several kids in the neighborhood die from OD or end up in jail. One of my family almost went there, despite the best parenting and the most money imaginable. Some people are just fucked up.

The whole "blame the parents" thing is actually just another liberal bullshit narrative...it allows society to fuck over the minds of kids and then turn around and blame it all on the parents.

Post: #98

Refusal to concede to the truth about genetics is hardwired into Western culture under the dubious umbrella of equality, bolstered by misrepresentation of terms like "all men are created equal".

Black slate theory is a sham foisted on us by idiots and charlatans. Identical twins separated at birth will turn out remarkably similar, while fraternal twins raised in the same household can turn out to be remarkably different.

Does anyone think that billionaires are not shopping for the best genetics when they find a sire/womb for their future children? Animal husbandry was obvious, even to the earliest farmers and the hunter-gatherers before them that domesticated the wolf. Why anyone thinks that humans are somehow immune to selective breeding is beyond me.

It's only us "super smart modern people" who are too dumb to accept what our great, great grandfathers knew inherently.

Post: #99

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One of my friends is a Prosecutor, he said if it stays a state charge he is looking at 10 years (due to the solicitation of a minor, more so than the statutory rape) do 3 in prison parole/probation on 7. He said if it is federal he could easily do 8-15 years and would more than 90 percent of that time in prison.
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violent crime=85% . or states will lose their federal funding> so 10 equals 8.5 plus probation

Post: #100

*Black slate theory?

Blank slate theory.

Fucking Zuckerberg and his racist android auto correct.