Post: #1

Anything that has inflated value eventually gets a hard reality check.

Crypto.

Housing.

Dot com.

Pokemon cards.

Pogs.

The pet rock.

So on and so forth.

Right now we are living in the age of the social media bubble. It's not different than any of the aforementioned bubbles...that being it's actual value is nowhere near what people think it's value is.

The primary function of social media seems to be, that it's a vehicle for male thirst and resources to be allocated to women. The flip side of that coin is men on the far right side of the bell curve of money/status/lifestyle to showcase that value on a global scale. (Dan Bilz).

So what value does instagram have for the average Joe if he gets nothing out of it?

Eventually he will realize this.

Just as the average beta shlub eventually realized feminism is bullshit. (Look at the comments of any video discussing feminism, whether for or against).

Anyone who's been in this corner of the web remembers when comments sections started to shift more towards a redpilled perspective, this trend has continued and as such, feminism continues to lose popular support, #metoo notwithstanding.


In recent years we've seen the Facebook platform lose a large percentage of its users. The same for Twitter and Snapchat. I'm of the opinion that the recent facebook scandals have not had as much impact as some might think. Their userbase was on its way down before Zuck sat on his booster chair before congress and had his feet held to the fire.

The only platform that seems to be going strong is Instagram. I don't think it's an accident that the only picture-based posting platform drives the most thirst...

Lately we've been inundated with anti-game posts from users that will remain nameless, (but no doubt know who they are) about how if you're not a 11/10 instagram chad with a "business contact" email address in your bio that you may as well embrace incelhood.

This is bullshit of the highest order.

Not one of the posters buying into that shit have presented anything in the way of "game tech" (as BlackCesar put it). Instead the name of the game is to showcase your own inflated value and play the version of the game they want you to play.

This is trend chasing and nothing more...in ten years it will be as useless as having an emo-themed myspace page would be today.

In Game, Roosh comments on this, and it stuck out to me. You are far better off building lasting value than trend-based value.

There is no such thing as objective value.


Now i'm not saying you shouldn't adapt. Quite the opposite. By trying to play the rigged game of tinder, IG, ect, you are not embracing a long term strategy that will pay off in the long run. You're essentially buying into the frame of the social media culture. You'll never benefit for long by chasing trends.

When will the tipping point of social media be hit, and what will be the cause? If I had to venture a guess, I'd say when women can no longer use it to manipulate men into giving them attention.

Male thirst has always existed (and in abundance) but there was never such an easy, low-risk way for the thirst to be expressed on a mass scale at any other time in human history. As we know, this has given women complete price discovery.

So the question may then be, how to resolve the issue of male thirst.

Post: #2

To me, that's like asking when will the telephone bubble pop.

Your examples do not share something important with social media. It connects people, and people love the feeling of connection and attention for what they represent as themself.

I doubt there will be a "pop" the mediums and approaches may change but I see social media sticking around for the long haul.

Post: #3

Some shit really got to pop off before it .....”burst” . Imo its here and its here to stay as long as tech keeps advancing. Its up to you on how you use it.

Post: #4

When were dirty magazines going to "pop"?

When was the telephone going to "pop"?

Itll pop when something better comes along. Till then people will flock from platform to platform depending on which one is the latest greatest.

** ah was beaten to it by cascade**

Post: #5

(09-12-2018 07:33 PM)Repo Wrote:  When were dirty magazines going to "pop"?

When was the telephone going to "pop"?

Itll pop when something better comes along. Till then people will flock from platform to platform depending on which one is the latest greatest.

** ah was beaten to it by cascade**

OK. But can we even hazard a guess what the next "greatest thing ever" in social media will be? It will obviously still be catered to women to the greatest extent possible, but that may be about the extent of our "educated guesses" thus far.
Just when we think SV can't come up with anything more inane/genius that the sheep will flock to immediately, they do. But what's next?

Post: #6

(09-12-2018 07:30 PM)cascadecombo Wrote:  Your examples do not share something important with social media. It connects people, and people love the feeling of connection and attention for what they represent as themself.

That's my point; when it becomes clear that the average user doesn't get that validation, (save for the Dan B's of the world, and the Hot Dubai Portopottys) and is unable to leverage it to get pussy and status, they will likely withdraw any investment of time into it.

I'm trying to make the point that people overvalue their social media presence.

To clarify, I'm not saying social media will GO AWAY. I'm saying there will likely come a point where people don't over value it as they do today.

Post: #7

(09-12-2018 07:39 PM)trippin_squares Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 07:33 PM)Repo Wrote:  When were dirty magazines going to "pop"?

When was the telephone going to "pop"?

Itll pop when something better comes along. Till then people will flock from platform to platform depending on which one is the latest greatest.

** ah was beaten to it by cascade**

OK. But can we even hazard a guess what the next "greatest thing ever" in social media will be? It will obviously still be catered to women to the greatest extent possible, but that may be about the extent of our "educated guesses" thus far.
Just when we think SV can't come up with anything more inane/genius that the sheep will flock to immediately, they do. But what's next?

I agree, and whatever it is will probably be something worse, and Facebook will probably try to buy it just like they did Instagram, if they dont come up with it themselves Stories and livestreams are some of the "newer" developments, my guess will be added functionality to these things, maybe some kind of virtual reality component.

Post: #8

I think Facebook will peak and decline. This is probably happening right now. MySpace peaked at a much lower membership level, but arguably Facebook beat them at their own game. Facebook's time will come. Zuck is too much of a robot to ride this wave much longer.

Some kind of social media will always exist, but in another 5-10 years the mania will be past. It will still have a central place in people's lives, but not as extreme as recent years.

I think some new thing we haven't seen yet, (or that is up and coming right now) will be major in 5 years, and Facebook will be passe, like Yahoo and Microsoft are now. Both were once cool.

Post: #9

When will the social media bubble pop?

When the Moronielle generation gets off its screens. (Or when they are forced to do so - eg, after an EMP....which would make a good TV series plot premise.)

Post: #10

Saw / read / heard something about an increase in young "Gen. Z" types using smart phones less.

Perhaps the young Gen Z types don't want to be exposed to bullying 24/7 & they're doing the obvious thing of turning phones off.
Perhaps it's a new "trend" do counter existing trends.
Perhaps it's simply the natural ebb & flow of things.

Time will tell I suppose.

Post: #11

(09-12-2018 07:40 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 07:30 PM)cascadecombo Wrote:  Your examples do not share something important with social media. It connects people, and people love the feeling of connection and attention for what they represent as themself.

That's my point; when it becomes clear that the average user doesn't get that validation, (save for the Dan B's of the world, and the Hot Dubai Portopottys) and is unable to leverage it to get pussy and status, they will likely withdraw any investment of time into it.

I'm trying to make the point that people overvalue their social media presence.

To clarify, I'm not saying social media will GO AWAY. I'm saying there will likely come a point where people don't over value it as they do today.

Good post. I also see social media declining or taking a more secondary role where people value it a lot less and use it for things like messaging or setting up events. I only use this shit for messaging + events and it hasn't helped or hindered me with girls at all.

That said, this seems like part of a larger trend of men realizing how skewed and unfavourable for them the sexual market place is becoming. I remember a few years back only people in our 'sphere' would talk about incels and the like, but all of a sudden that exploded into mainstream consciousness. The rabbit hole goes real deep if someone wonders to themselves, "why are there incels?" Among other things, they'd run into MRA, MGTOW, PUA, and hopefully us.

Things became exponentially skewed over the last few years, probably due to Tinder. A lot of men would be shocked to see how easy women & some men, like us, have it when it comes to the SMP. Even more than that, if more men saw hard data as to how economically privileged women are, those men would be fucking pissed (e.g. http://www.realsexism.com/).

The point I'm making is that men checking out of social media is part of a larger trend of men checking out. Just checking out of everything due to taxes, automation, governments and corporations that increasingly hate and shame them, and, of course, how tough the dating market has become for the average Joe.

I'm not a big fan of MGTOW, but credit where credit is due, those guys definitely predicted this and it's pretty common to see mgtow usernames and comments in articles and youtube videos and the like.

Post: #12

What fundamentally funds the social media bubble?
Female need for attention and validation.

Shit's been around a long time and will continue on, though its form may vary.

Post: #13

Do you remember Anita Sarkeesian? She was able to get a ridiculous amount of money for her stupid feminist web series something that would have been unthinkable on other times. If you think social media has not worth you are deluded. People of every kind are able to sell things directly to their niches and brands can use popular users to sell even more. The only way I can see it losing value is when somebody more advanced comes up or when the global economy slows down.
And about generation Z, those kids are practically born with a tablet, why do you think is Pewdiepie or that kind of guys who make childish content are so popular?

Post: #14

(09-12-2018 10:53 PM)Bycicleguy Wrote:  Do you remember Anita Sarkeesian? She was able to get a ridiculous amount of money for her stupid feminist web series something that would have been unthinkable on other times.

Yeah she had great timing, she knew how to market herself and her message at the exact right time when the feminist movement's social influence was hitting it's zenith; I agree it would not work at any other time. That concept is what I'm trying to illustrate here. It is also worth noting that she has not been in the spotlight at all since the feminist wave crested. She's obviously smart and cynical as hell.

I'm beginning to think the answer my initial question of "when will people get over social media" will be 'when people learn to stop worshiping narcissism'.

Post: #15

From what I see with Facebook, things have already popped with many people I know under 35 or so. A big amount used to post fairly regularly but now they post maybe once a month. Likewise many are not liking things and typically use Facebook just for messaging. There still are many frequent posters in the under 35 age group that are constantly on Facebook but things have tapered off significantly. Even more significant is guys usage of Facebook, seems like most have moved on from it.

Meanwhile in the over 35 things have seem to have gotten stronger. People like my mom and other older people I know are constantly "checking in", liking, and/or posting very often.

Post: #16

(09-13-2018 12:14 AM)username Wrote:  Meanwhile in the over 35 things have seem to have gotten stronger. People like my mom and other older people I know are constantly "checking in", liking, and/or posting very often.

And you know what that means... as soon as the oldsters invade en masse, it's no longer cool with the young crowd and they migrate to another "dominant" platform.

Post: #17

The next inflection-point is going to be AI.

There are already threads here talking about this.

Technology is all about saving time/labor. The internet can be a huge time-suck and a lot of it can be automated through AI. We've only seen the first glimmers of this but it's going to get better and be more useful.

Post: #18

To invent a technology, society have to invent the people who will use it...

With ubiquitous internet connectivity SocMed will evolve to a constently present machine being able to report anything seen by its users.

Imagine what it will be with AlterEgo coupled with Google Glasses/Lens

Black mirror give you a pre taste




You won't be able to escape it...

Post: #19

It peaked for me about 4 years ago, now nothing. That's all that really matters.

Couldn't care what the masses do. I'm glad their glued to their smart phones endlessly scrolling through Bookface. Allows me to get ahead.

Post: #20

Social media might be a convenient way to connect with other people, but it's gradually morphing into something more sinister. The general public is starting to realize this. When they fully get it, social media as we know it now will fade.

When Facebook started, the great thing was that you could reconnect with your old friends and family members who were far away and meet new people. But as time went on, it just became a place people insulted, shamed, or snubbed each other. Since it could mean losing your job, a lot of younger people bailed. Now, gradually, it's becoming the place grandmoms show off photos of their grandbabies.

Instagram is a place young girls can show off their assets. But I've noticed that once they get into the workforce or get serious boyfriends, their accounts vanish without explanation. When it's time to be an adult, Instagram disappears. It's a little hard to be taken seriously at that Monday meeting when everyone's stating at pics of your butt in a thong bathing suit on their phones.

I think at some point in the future, the next generation will look back on these forms of social media the way we look back on LSD experimentation in the 1960s. They'll think "How stupid can they have been? How naive?"

In the future, people will wonder why on Earth we put out opinions and private pics under our real names AND gave away so much info to corporate America.

I think the future might be anonymous forums like this one. This is, ironically, the way social media started way back in the 1990s, when people posted on message boards (before Google bought them and killed them off).

I'm on Facebook now only as a lurker. But I still have a lot of friends from all walks of life. I have actually seen posts from those I know conferring about trying to get people fired for having "incorrect" opinions on FB. In the real world, these WERE decent people. But the medium has tuned them into jerks. So why bother with it? More and more, people are asking themselves this question.

Post: #21

Well pussy is a greatly inflated value but I don't see it popping any time soon.

Same thing. Social media trades in one currency that auto-generate its own market and demand: attention and validation. Bitches can never have enough attention. If anything social media will just keep getting more vicious and sophisticated to the point it replaces reality completely to allow females and weak-willed males to bathe in attention in the relative safety of "safe space".

If you want it to burst the easiest thing is to tell men to man the fuck up and stop giving bitches like and attention online. Everyone knows that if even 1/3 of men do this social media would pop tomorrow. But good luck getting those soyboys to do anything.

@arrows: I once share the same optimism until I came to France. Then I realize that people think a lot, they realize a lot that is "not right", but nobody fucking does anything. People complain and criticize and honestly I used to be surprise at how many people here are actually at least purple pill regarding politics and globalists, but nobody does anything. Social media also feed into this. As long as people can twit about #stoplobbying# they will no longer take to the streets and skewer the elites on a pike.

Post: #22

(09-13-2018 03:06 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  When Facebook started, the great thing was that you could reconnect with your old friends and family members who were far away and meet new people. But as time went on, it just became a place people insulted, shamed, or snubbed each other.

In life there are psychopaths - people who do bad to others and have no remorse. Then there are sociopaths - people who do bad to others and struggle with the remorse. The rest are "good people" who will not engage in overt attacks, theft etc.

Online has exposed another delineation to this, which ranges from the death threats to general poor civility. As someone who has never used social media, my main window into this has been 1000s of emails from anonymous or quasi-anonymous individuals.

People who are not psychopaths or sociopaths have been drawn in to behaving poorly as they lack any cues that stop them doing so, like being able to see they are inflicting emotional distress. This is obviously amplified on platforms like Twitter where people largely interact with often anonymous strangers.

My conclusion is that if you put many people in a situation where they can do something bad and they know no one will ever know they did it, many will take it. The limiting factor is their social reputation. This is the validation that regulates their behaviour - that they are accepted as a person in the group.

But due to the reduced social cues, many people slip into acting as if they were in somewhat of a social vacuum, simply as not all the real-life cues are there.

To divert back to the OP's topic, there is a similar situation with the male thirst and female attention games.

There is no thumb down button on Facebook/Instagram. A fat troll goes out and beyond BBW fetishists feels the lack of interest in her. She sticks her fat paws on Facebook and gets sympathy hearts from Auntie Irene and male feminists. Anyone who dares tell her the truth can be cut out. If she wants to put her photos on Instagram she can get a distorted mirror of the world from fetishists and Raj from Jalandhar.

For high-level women posting their photos on Cuckerburg's brothel, the sort of validation that used to be the preserve of professional models is now readily provided for any 8 via an army of sofa masturbators.

For the average good looking guy its hard to be much of a concern for the girl in your town with 100,000 Instagram masturbators, dashing their loads over her latest mouth-open selfie. It's not normal. She wouldn't have as much concern over said guy a leading woke babes like Megan Markle would have over the thought of marrying a charity worker.

Attention is inflationary or deflationary. The more you get the less it's worth and vice versa. Women who are on online dating get barraged. They don't need to message. The messages they do get and they read typically bore them. She's jaded from instant dopamine hits and little to no connection. To get her you need to keep it high energy, just to get to her other hurdles.

This isn't normal or sustainable. Already we're seeing the train wrecks from the Sex In The City era girls, the cat ladies, the women with degrees who only want men with degrees. The millennials will make the worst social decisions of any generation ever and the next generation will hopefully do something different.

Post: #23

One good thing social media has done is exposed the true nature of men vs. women. Men have come off looking a lot better.

Examine the FB feeds of people you know. The men tend to post semi-regularly about their interests. The women "hate post" all the time about every minutely insane thing that upsets them.

The men's posts have the tone of someone being on cruise control, while most women's posts read like they're being electrically shocked while forced to watch babies thrown out windows.

I had never thought of women as :hysterics," like they did in the old days. But then social media started generating manufactured crisis after crisis and all of it seemed fueled by the wacky, transient emotions of women.

People talk about women's advancement, but if anything, social media this has set women back in the eyes of men (including prospective employers and the like). A lot of us now see them the way our great-grandfather saw them -- as children. Before logging into FB I sometimes jokingly ask myself "Wonder what today's crisis of the moment is?"

And it's always something. "OMG!! The guy who runs Jimmy Johns is a trophy hunter!! Get him!!" The next day that's forgotten because "OMG! Norm McDonald is a rape apologist!! Get him!!" The next day that's forgotten because "OMG!! Women get harassed just for walking around the streets! Get the men who leer!"

It never ends. How can people live happy or successful lives in a state of constant agitation?

If the inside of people's brains are reflected in FB postings then what's inside the heads of men are sunny days and blue skies, but women's minds are filled with bleeding, mud covered insane people running around with torches and screaming.

Anyway, I think this is another reason Facebook is dying. People get burned out on this stuff. If everything is "OMG! OMFG!!!" then nothing is.

Post: #24

I keep up with a local mugshot/crime Facebook group, just to know what's going on, and it has been taken over by women accusing men of all sorts of crimes with no evidence, settling scores, female meth feuds, all sorts of rape and pedophile accusations, stalker allegations, and if anyone calls them out they get ganged up on.

For example, a recent one where some skank tried to sell a thirsty dude her menstrual blood, and when he said no, she stopped messaging him, and he messaged her like two times after.

She came to the group announcing that some creepy dude was stalking her, posting screenshots of their messages as proof.

That was extreme, and a lot of people saw through it, but she had plenty of defenders too.

Stopped subscribing to that and all other local groups. Am in anonymous mode, but it seems like most people have stopped updating on Facebook except for the skanks, shut-ins, bored dudes, and women who want to show their boobs.

Feels like Facebook is dying to me.

Post: #25

(09-12-2018 07:40 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 07:30 PM)cascadecombo Wrote:  Your examples do not share something important with social media. It connects people, and people love the feeling of connection and attention for what they represent as themself.

That's my point; when it becomes clear that the average user doesn't get that validation, (save for the Dan B's of the world, and the Hot Dubai Portopottys) and is unable to leverage it to get pussy and status, they will likely withdraw any investment of time into it.

I'm trying to make the point that people overvalue their social media presence.

To clarify, I'm not saying social media will GO AWAY. I'm saying there will likely come a point where people don't over value it as they do today.