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Maybe he lost to a Trump supporter and that was about the most he could take.
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Theres a secomd video supposedly from the day prior where you can hear a guy screaming at another. Supposedly the shooter was involved in that. I forgot to copy the link. The shooter was eliminated then shot the place up. You can actually see the lasar on the chest / heart area of one of the victims in the main video being circulated right before the shooting started.
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(08-26-2018 09:09 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  
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I'm betting there was psychiatric medication(s) involved, and likely a broken home and maybe fetal alcohol syndrome in the early years too. But guns are the problem, right?

Is abuse of psychiatric drugs a problem in pro gaming like various steroids, human growth, and endurance drugs are in pro sports?

I know that pro sharp shooters are know to take beta blockers, but I thought those mellowed you out.

Is there a drug that gives you an edge in e-sports? Adderall?

I'd be interested to see where you read that part about pro shooters and those drugs. If they're taking beta blockers, they probably had a heart attack or are managing high blood pressure. Not seeing any competitive advantage to how those drugs operate. And yeah, in some ways I could see how adderall, ritalin and similar drugs could work for some people by intensifying their concentration.

The ones who go off the rails and shoot people are almost always on some kind of SSRI drug (Selective Seratonin Reuptake Inhibitor) like Prozac, Paxil, etc., not just a mere stimulant. There's all kinds of sings pointing to this but nobody does shit about it except blame guns.

Beta blockers lessen the physical effects of adrenaline and noradrenaline. It can be used to counteract physical symptoms of anxiety, but that's not the primary indication for use. Pulse and blood pressure is normalized with this type of medication, but other things happen in the body as well, especially if it's a non-selective antagonist.

Olympic shooters probably use them to minimize tremor for example. Musicians use them to calm down and get "in flow" easier, lessening the risk of missing a fret.
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RE: Mass shooting in Jacksonville
Watch this before it gets taken down.

Another "solution" ready made by some guys who seem to be repeating a line about showing the world Jacksonville's problems. Embedded in the solution (give me something to do give me money) lies the justification for participating in this event.

Now tell me if you heard shooting and ran towards it with your camera, would your first thought be that you want to show the world Jacksonville?

There was no news there. There was no news there. There was no news there.

Dare I say the "C" word which started all the youtube bannings a year ago?





Well at least it's a good thing there was a government training going on during the event or it could have been worse:



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That first video.

"People bored. People don't got no work down here so they ain't nothing to do in dey free time but be shootin' an' killin' an' stuff."

Wow.

Snow people get your fucking families to the snow line. It's an incredible claim, I know, but even in the poorest parts of Idaho people are not killing each other "cuz dey bored".

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(08-26-2018 11:04 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  
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(08-26-2018 07:53 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  Separated at birth from the Sandy Hook whack job:

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I'm betting there was psychiatric medication(s) involved, and likely a broken home and maybe fetal alcohol syndrome in the early years too. But guns are the problem, right?

Is abuse of psychiatric drugs a problem in pro gaming like various steroids, human growth, and endurance drugs are in pro sports?

I know that pro sharp shooters are know to take beta blockers, but I thought those mellowed you out.

Is there a drug that gives you an edge in e-sports? Adderall?

I'd be interested to see where you read that part about pro shooters and those drugs. If they're taking beta blockers, they probably had a heart attack or are managing high blood pressure. Not seeing any competitive advantage to how those drugs operate. And yeah, in some ways I could see how adderall, ritalin and similar drugs could work for some people by intensifying their concentration.

The ones who go off the rails and shoot people are almost always on some kind of SSRI drug (Selective Seratonin Reuptake Inhibitor) like Prozac, Paxil, etc., not just a mere stimulant. There's all kinds of sings pointing to this but nobody does shit about it except blame guns.

This is true, but to be fair, if the first thing you do to every person that is having mental problems is give them an SSRI, then 100% of your mental cases that act out are going to be on SSRIs by default.

There`s "always" been these mental issues though. But the mass administration of these drugs is a quite recent event. These types of shootings (and other forms of extreme violence) seems to correlate with the massive increase in the use of these drugs.

There are also studies done in a clinical setting that indicate depersonalization and inhibition relief, with excess serotonin as they likely culprit. There are also many dietary issues involved here, and the radical increase in sugar/HFCS consumption and so on also correlate with a certain increase in "mental" disorders, and basically every other disease/condition known to man.

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(08-27-2018 09:31 AM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  Well at least it's a good thing there was a government training going on during the event or it could have been worse:




Training exercise at the same time going on? Check.

Of course it's an indicator - sometimes it's really very coincidental like on 9/11 having a massive exercise going that trained against terrorist attacks via airplanes - of course it's just a coincidence.

Ultimately we won't find out - in this case I would be interested whether David Katz took his life via headshot or a bodywound and thus potentially blood-bag. Agent Katz enjoys 1 year vacation in Israel before returning to his post with a beard.

Though of course - it could be real, but those exercises are always there.

That shit will continue until they can grab all the guns - that might take a while in the US.
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(08-27-2018 09:21 AM)Vienna Wrote:  Olympic shooters probably use them to minimize tremor for example. Musicians use them to calm down and get "in flow" easier, lessening the risk of missing a fret.

Well, I stand corrected - you may have something there on the performance advantages of beta blockers, but the Olympic shooters sure as hell aren't using them. Or if they are, they risk getting Armstronged.

Quote:Beta blockers are prohibited during competition in a number of sports; out of competition, they are prohibited only in archery and shooting. The prohibited beta blockers include...

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That's a headline you don't see too often:

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Wow - looks like it's official. Reported by a Jewish news source? No running from that embarrassing nugget:

Quote:"A mezuzah was affixed to the doorway of Katz’s father’s home in the tony Federal Hill neighborhood, near the Inner Harbor in downtown Baltimore.
Read more: https://forward.com/fast-forward/408997/...ksonville/"

Damn, that account (@WeWuzMetokur) just got suspended by twatter!
How long before Youtube kills him off?

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I don't care if he was Jewish, Catholic, Rasta, or Hindu. He was a mentally ill wackjob who was in and out of mental hospitals and probably on massive amounts of medication. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP, LIKE HE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE 1960s.

I already made a similar comment a month ago about the mass shooting in Toronto. It's here if anyone wants to read it. "Reforms" in the mental health field let the lunatics run free and made you and me victims.

If we want to be safe, we need to go back to throwing people in the looney bins. The greater good matters. Either a few mentally ill people suffer or countless innocent people suffer.

Also, one other thing: Psychiatric meds are a complete crapshoot and doctors who peddle them are drug pushers with degrees. Have a nice day!
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Wait a second - Malema was right! It's those Jewish snipers we were warned about!




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I'm just going to repeat the obvious: the fucker has flat affect that can be seen a mile away that anyone will know the guy is off his rocker.

(08-27-2018 05:12 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  If we want to be safe, we need to go back to throwing people in the looney bins. The greater good matters. Either a few mentally ill people suffer or countless innocent people suffer.

Also, one other thing: Psychiatric meds are a complete crapshoot and doctors who peddle them are drug pushers with degrees. Have a nice day!

There are some men that medication does not work at all. The human brain is still a black box for medical science. General rule of thumb about psychology is medication for patients is hit or miss. Just have to give them meds and see what works. Blame the fucking from the left for letting the mental ill out of the asylum and keep them out in the public where we are ill prepare to take care of them. Doctors have patients that are threat to the public, but can't involuntary commit since a bleeding hearts made it impossible to do so.

Here is link by twitter use named, Thomas Wictor who sums up the US mental health situation: we're fucked at the moment.
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(08-27-2018 05:37 PM)Thersites Wrote:  I'm just going to repeat the obvious: the fucker has flat affect that can be seen a mile away that anyone will know the guy is off his rocker.

(08-27-2018 05:12 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  If we want to be safe, we need to go back to throwing people in the looney bins. The greater good matters. Either a few mentally ill people suffer or countless innocent people suffer.

Also, one other thing: Psychiatric meds are a complete crapshoot and doctors who peddle them are drug pushers with degrees. Have a nice day!

There are some men that medication does not work at all. The human brain is still a black box for medical science. General rule of thumb about psychology is medication for patients is hit or miss. Just have to give them meds and see what works. Blame the fucking from the left for letting the mental ill out of the asylum and keep them out in the public where we are ill prepare to take care of them. Doctors have patients that are threat to the public, but can't involuntary commit since a bleeding hearts made it impossible to do so.

Here is link by twitter use named, Thomas Wictor who sums up the US mental health situation: we're fucked at the moment.

What we really need is a clinical trial. Take a cohort of a 1000 patients with a history of schizophrenia. Design, with help of the leaders in the field, a high fat, nutrient dense, paleo type diet. Eliminate all stimulants, like caffeine, theobromine, nicotine, of course alcohol etc. (And no medications) Combine with significant daily physical activity, sun exposure and so on. I`m more than convinced that this would cure most patients. Although there would be a transitionary period for most, since addiction lies at the root of these problems, like with so many other conditions/diseases.

Of course this is just a pipe dream, it will never happen. But it would in theory be a cure for the vast majority of the "mentally" ill. There is just no genuine interest in finding the root cause, even though the data is there to be found. Just look at pubmed. It all leads back to neuroendocrine homeostasis disruption, and autoimmunity, and that in turn is caused by diet. With psychology soon being an all female field…it`s pretty much totally fucked the whole thing. The doctors are as crazy, if not more so, than the patients.

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The shooter is confirmed to have mental health issues:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/35048/lef...n-saavedra

"The shooter had also been hospitalized twice as a teenager in psychiatric facilities for mental health issues, according to the Associated Press — which also noted that he "was prescribed anti-psychotic and anti-depressant medications." "

And the other thing to note is that he somehow legally purchased the gun in gun-controlled Maryland (46 out of 50 states for being gun-friendly) rather than in Florida (ranked 39, but lefties are going on about how lax the FL laws are).
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(08-27-2018 08:49 PM)66Scorpio Wrote:  The shooter is confirmed to have mental health issues:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/35048/lef...n-saavedra

"The shooter had also been hospitalized twice as a teenager in psychiatric facilities for mental health issues, according to the Associated Press — which also noted that he "was prescribed anti-psychotic and anti-depressant medications." "

And the other thing to note is that he somehow legally purchased the gun in gun-controlled Maryland (46 out of 50 states for being gun-friendly) rather than in Florida (ranked 39, but lefties are going on about how lax the FL laws are).

The Baltimore Sun did a longer article detailing his lifelong psychiatric issues, the drugs he was on, and the fact that his parents were "desperate to find psychiatric care." (Cache link here.)

Guess they didn't find it in time. It's really a shame he got to roam free and kill people. After reading that newspaper story, it's surprising he didn't do worse and sooner. Even the most naive liberal could have seen this coming.

Back in our parents' era, involuntary psychiatric imprisonment was so prevalent that even rock bands wrote songs about it. We need to go back to the days of the "Cherry Blossom Clinics."


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Mental health issues is one thing, but ALL MEDICATIONS THAT HAVE MURDEROUS RAGE AS A SIDE-EFFECT SHOULD BE INSTANTLY BANNED!

Medicating with weed would be superior to that crap.
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(08-27-2018 09:16 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Back in our parents' era, involuntary psychiatric imprisonment was so prevalent that even rock bands wrote songs about it. We need to go back to the days of the "Cherry Blossom Clinics."



There's gotta be a happy medium figured out first.

I love guns, and the 2nd amendment. My years in the navy prove my patriotism.

However, more than added gun restriction, I'm really against loosening restrictions on who gets involuntarily locked up. You think the Big leftist corporations have a field day banning YouTube channels and censoring conservative shot every chance they can? Just wait until they have the power to toss you in the psycho ward.

Private prisons are big business. Let's not add private American gulags.

Imagine the SPLC running down this forum and having us all thrown in the nut house.

It's a slippery slope that could really turn bad quickly.

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Kona gets it.

"Oppositional defiance disorder" is the new "failure to uphold the revolutionary spirit".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politica...viet_Union

In a sane society none of this shit is even relevant. Dicking around with who gets meds and why vs who gets locked up and why is like debating lookout procedures on the Titanic post-iceberg.

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(08-28-2018 05:32 AM)Kona Wrote:  
(08-27-2018 09:16 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Back in our parents' era, involuntary psychiatric imprisonment was so prevalent that even rock bands wrote songs about it. We need to go back to the days of the "Cherry Blossom Clinics."



There's gotta be a happy medium figured out first.

I love guns, and the 2nd amendment. My years in the navy prove my patriotism.

However, more than added gun restriction, I'm really against loosening restrictions on who gets involuntarily locked up. You think the Big leftist corporations have a field day banning YouTube channels and censoring conservative shot every chance they can? Just wait until they have the power to toss you in the psycho ward.

Private prisons are big business. Let's not add private American gulags.

Imagine the SPLC running down this forum and having us all thrown in the nut house.

It's a slippery slope that could really turn bad quickly.

Aloha!

It's not that slippery a slope. Here's why: We now have actual technology to see who is sane and who isn't. We just aren't using it.

Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (fMRI) depicts the brainwaves of people. When someone has schizophrenia, the brainwaves show up differently. They even show differently for severe depression.

Instead of having quack psychologists (or judges) give their "interpretations" of who is crazy and who is sane, the machines will be able to tell us. This technology isn't used widely today, but someday it will be.

I also think it's a stretch to go from leftist corporations deplatforming people to claiming they'd have to power to have someone committed. There is a major difference there.

Big Tech doesn't even really have the power to really shut people down, since the "banned" person can just get another account with a different moniker. Maybe the school systems could abuse such a system, but I even doubt that since they're too incompetent.
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Quote:Just wait until they have the power to toss you in the psycho ward.

. . .

Imagine the SPLC running down this forum and having us all thrown in the nut house.

Conservatives joke about "[Fill in the blank] Derangement Syndrome". To a certain extent, we are serious because some of these lefties are fucking nuts. However, the lefty academics are dead serious when they go on about Right Wing Authoritarian Personalities and their various psycho-babble to paint conservatives as having mental health issues while de-listing homosexuals and trannies from the DSM.

Plus we know it is never a two-way street and the dice are always loaded when you deal with leftist politics.

I'll take my chances with kooks on the loose rather than a government with potentially that sort of power to lock me away.
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