Post: #51

Baatummania appears to be banned. Maybe he's a crypto-Russian talking bad about Georgia?

Post: #52

RIP BaatumMania... he certainly was the talkative type

Post: #53

Finally that idiot is gone, fuck ya!

Post: #54

(01-23-2019 11:56 AM)scotian Wrote:  Finally that idiot is gone, fuck ya!

Oh wow, it seems that gentleman had a doubtful reputation

Post: #55

Was he bad? I'd seen a few posts from him that looked sane.

Post: #56

What was the reason for his ban ?

Post: #57

This was his one good contribution to RVF, the guy actually had potential to be a solid poster but would constantly opine on subjects he had no clue about, especially in the travel section. He'd say things like Kenyan women are like the Asians of Africa, no cureves! Or that it's unlikely a Tinder date in Medellin would rob you, when in fact that's one of the main methods they use. Bad advice can lead to guys making poor decisions while traveling, he won't be missed but he'll probably be back like most of those attention seeking weirdos.

Post: #58

Guy was a clueless idiot that constantly posted inaccurate information about places he claimed to have visited. Mostly got his "intel" through switching his Tinder location there, it looks like. That he actually got repped extensively for it is kind of concerning but I guess that's just the flaw with the way RVF works.

Post: #59

Ok guys, then let's focus again on topic, on great Georgia! I booked already my next flight for February

Post: #60

(01-24-2019 02:43 PM)Endless Escapes Wrote:  Ok guys, then let's focus again on topic, on great Georgia! I booked already my next flight for February

Check out my post several years ago on going after mixed-ethnicity girls and avoiding Georgian chicks at all costs.

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If you follow my advice and are not autistic like BatuumMania, you'll find success sooner or later.

Post: #61

Spent three months working in Tbilsi, have to say of all the cities i've lived in abroad, it is my LEAST favourite by a distance.

1) The air quality is terrible. It is verging on gridlocked at various points of the day, with shitty old soviet motors polluting the shit out of the air. Factor in the geography of the area (it is shrouded by a mountain, and rarely gets much breeze, this air just sits all day.

2) Has to be the least friendly or warm place in europe, hands down. bordering on hostile. They drive like absolute psychos, never slowing down if you are crossing the road, even at times speeding up to prove a point.

3)It is incredibly rare to get any kind of banter going with staff in cafes or bars. They are just brutally cold as standard. Also, and this is a major bug-bear of mine, you will find people regularly trying to jump the queues in shops. I can not and never will just stand there while someone does this, and on two occassions got into arguments (both times with people who seemingly didnt speak english, but i made my feelings know regardless). This might sound uptight, but i regard a society that does not respect queuing, as ultimately wildly inferior. It reveals a lack of care for social order, others and general courtesy.

4) The much vaunted nightlife there, as far as i could ascertain, was riddled with scams and corruption. I heard a lot of stuff about mafia scams, quite sophisticated honey-trapping (girls who will be receptive to lone foreigners, have drinks, then suggest another bar, where you'll be presented with a ludicrous bill).

5) The women there are reasonably attractive for EE standards. One notch down from the Slavic countries, for my tastes, but attractive enough. Few stunners, but a lot of solidly attractive girls. However i did not find them friendly or particulary receptive to foreigners.

6) Hardly any greenery or parks, or wide open spaces anywhere.

It's a real shame, as i have a lot of respect for their history, their churches and strength of their nationalist ideals, but for me, i found the place fundamentally unpleasant. On the plus side it is cheap. But it is also filled with a lot of shifty expats, people from dodgy countries (subjective i know, but seemed quite a lot of Arabs and Steppe types knocking about, as well as the more douchey expats that cant get visas or work teaching english flock there).

Have to say that in a decade and living in around 10 different cities across Europe, Tbilsi is clear worst for me. Directly after i spent 6 weeks in Yerevan, which was far nicer. More chilled, friendlier, nicer spaces in the centre and just all round more civilised. Probably not much going on there to keep you (women were a notch down sadly), but just a far nicer culture it seemed to me.

Post: #62

(04-06-2019 11:47 PM)Elmore Wrote:  Spent three months working in Tbilsi, have to say of all the cities i've lived in abroad, it is my LEAST favourite by a distance.

1) The air quality is terrible. It is verging on gridlocked at various points of the day, with shitty old soviet motors polluting the shit out of the air. Factor in the geography of the area (it is shrouded by a mountain, and rarely gets much breeze, this air just sits all day.

2) Has to be the least friendly or warm place in europe, hands down. bordering on hostile. They drive like absolute psychos, never slowing down if you are crossing the road, even at times speeding up to prove a point.

3)It is incredibly rare to get any kind of banter going with staff in cafes or bars. They are just brutally cold as standard. Also, and this is a major bug-bear of mine, you will find people regularly trying to jump the queues in shops. I can not and never will just stand there while someone does this, and on two occassions got into arguments (both times with people who seemingly didnt speak english, but i made my feelings know regardless). This might sound uptight, but i regard a society that does not respect queuing, as ultimately wildly inferior. It reveals a lack of care for social order, others and general courtesy.

4) The much vaunted nightlife there, as far as i could ascertain, was riddled with scams and corruption. I heard a lot of stuff about mafia scams, quite sophisticated honey-trapping (girls who will be receptive to lone foreigners, have drinks, then suggest another bar, where you'll be presented with a ludicrous bill).

5) The women there are reasonably attractive for EE standards. One notch down from the Slavic countries, for my tastes, but attractive enough. Few stunners, but a lot of solidly attractive girls. However i did not find them friendly or particulary receptive to foreigners.

6) Hardly any greenery or parks, or wide open spaces anywhere.

It's a real shame, as i have a lot of respect for their history, their churches and strength of their nationalist ideals, but for me, i found the place fundamentally unpleasant. On the plus side it is cheap. But it is also filled with a lot of shifty expats, people from dodgy countries (subjective i know, but seemed quite a lot of Arabs and Steppe types knocking about, as well as the more douchey expats that cant get visas or work teaching english flock there).

Have to say that in a decade and living in around 10 different cities across Europe, Tbilsi is clear worst for me. Directly after i spent 6 weeks in Yerevan, which was far nicer. More chilled, friendlier, nicer spaces in the centre and just all round more civilised. Probably not much going on there to keep you (women were a notch down sadly), but just a far nicer culture it seemed to me.

Your post is the best example that generalisations are not good.

Soms guys here were mentioning that women in Georgia are ugly or under average in general while women in Armenia are of a higher physical value.

You have stated the opposite and frankly, many Armenian women resemble turkish anatolian women.

Each one to his own tastes.

Post: #63

(04-06-2019 11:47 PM)Elmore Wrote:  Spent three months working in Tbilsi, have to say of all the cities i've lived in abroad, it is my LEAST favourite by a distance.

1) The air quality is terrible. It is verging on gridlocked at various points of the day, with shitty old soviet motors polluting the shit out of the air. Factor in the geography of the area (it is shrouded by a mountain, and rarely gets much breeze, this air just sits all day.

Didnt feel this but then again i rarely notice pollution stuff.

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2) Has to be the least friendly or warm place in europe, hands down. bordering on hostile. They drive like absolute psychos, never slowing down if you are crossing the road, even at times speeding up to prove a point.

3)It is incredibly rare to get any kind of banter going with staff in cafes or bars. They are just brutally cold as standard.

I kinda agree. I read everywhere how georgians are very hospitable but as far as superfluous interactions go, i found them cold, by mediterranean standards. However every russian girl considers georgians lively and warm.

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4) The much vaunted nightlife there, as far as i could ascertain, was riddled with scams and corruption. I heard a lot of stuff about mafia scams, quite sophisticated honey-trapping (girls who will be receptive to lone foreigners, have drinks, then suggest another bar, where you'll be presented with a ludicrous bill).

Did you actually experience any of this? I didnt find anything of this sort. I wish they did have honey traps, the problem is actually lack of hot girls.

Quote:5) The women there are reasonably attractive for EE standards. One notch down from the Slavic countries, for my tastes, but attractive enough. Few stunners, but a lot of solidly attractive girls. However i did not find them friendly or particulary receptive to foreigners.

I found them quite unattractive. Would prefer any western country.

Quote: 6) Hardly any greenery or parks, or wide open spaces anywhere.

It's a real shame, as i have a lot of respect for their history, their churches and strength of their nationalist ideals, but for me, i found the place fundamentally unpleasant. On the plus side it is cheap. But it is also filled with a lot of shifty expats, people from dodgy countries (subjective i know, but seemed quite a lot of Arabs and Steppe types knocking about, as well as the more douchey expats that cant get visas or work teaching english flock there).

Have to say that in a decade and living in around 10 different cities across Europe, Tbilsi is clear worst for me. Directly after i spent 6 weeks in Yerevan, which was far nicer. More chilled, friendlier, nicer spaces in the centre and just all round more civilised. Probably not much going on there to keep you (women were a notch down sadly), but just a far nicer culture it seemed to me.

The arab tourists there are quite tame and are more families interested in tourism.
I found it quite pleasant if you have a girl with you. There are a bunch of trips you can take from Tbilisi, the food and wine are excellent and prices are good. But yeah for a single guy its on the bottom of my list.

Post: #64

To answer the two posts above.

Yes of course it's subjective, and of course i generalise. How else can someone get a general picture across?
"How are the people in Georgia?"
"Oh well, everyone's an indvidual, it's important not to generalize"...

I dunno, perhaps my post seems unduly down on Tbilsi, but it's just as i found it out there. Again, subjective, but honest to how i perceived it. I've lived all over the former soviet world, so 'post soviet' manners or customer service are nothing new to me, and i normally dont give a toss, i just found Tbilsi one step beyond the archetypal coldness you can experience in these places. As i say, Armenia was completely different in this regard, you'd regularly strike up conversations in bars or cafes, and have genuinely deep and interesting interactions with people unexpectedly.

I played football out there in a group of expats in Tbilsi, and remember one time the ball going over the fence, we called to a guy to throw it back, he looked at the ball shook his head and walked off. OK one example, but that sort of mentality was displayed regularly. Sorry, just didn't enjoy the place, and found the people dour and unfriendly.

I dont want to sound like i'm hating on the place, cos i'm not. I respect them and their history a lot. And i am absolutely speaking in generalisations (we all have to, unless you want a detailed report of every interaction). I'll tell you one postive and unexpected thing, they have some great ice cream out there. And one kiosk in particular, dont recall the name, but it was not far from the centre. And they were friendly too. So there you go, it's all generalisations.

Post: #65

Elmore: can you post some Intel on the Yerevan Thread?