Post: #26

Uh yeah some people are natural rollers. I let my cousin roll a joint and he had it down after 3 torn papers. Doesn't even smoke.

(10-12-2011 09:20 AM)big poppa Wrote:  Rolling a blunt is the next thing I need to learn.. Those babies can get 5 people stoned

These are even easier to twist than a joint. Might want to try cigarillos before the regular blunts. I grew out of sweets because they taste like shit and its annoying having to slice them open and take the tobacco out.

Post: #27

I just watched a video of Wiz Khalifia rolling a perfect joint and he put a filter in one end...

what does that do?

Post: #28

(10-12-2011 01:57 PM)rockdaspot Wrote:  I just watched a video of Wiz Khalifia rolling a perfect joint and he put a filter in one end...

what does that do?

Sh*t.

I can do that one handed.

It is Amsterdam Style.

It is so you don't burn your lips when the jay gets low.

Post: #29

I think that pot is much more useful than alcohol when it comes to game, mainly because of its illegality. Drinking is legal, so you can drink in bars. Asking a girl to come up to your place for a drink is a transparent attempt to bang her, and it's tough to come up with innocuous reasons to bring a girl up to your place (as opposed to getting into her place). Wholly aside from game concerns, booze has serious medical issues unlike cannabis. I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty much an alcoholic and it negatively affects my health and how much tail I can pull (passing out too early, or just generally being too shitfaced). I should probably reduce my alcohol consumption but I really, really like drinking.

Pot being illegal means you can't consume it in public places, so if a girl is 420-friendly it will be very easy to get her to come to your place. Most potheads, male or female, won't turn down an offer to smoke so typically the number one problem is limiting the number of people (and especially keeping men out) who you bring to your place. The illegality of pot also means that if you DO toke in public, you're a devil-may-care badass (for the same reason I have a lot of success with girls when I openly drink outside in public) who makes his own rules. Portable butane vaporizers, particularly those manufactured by Oglesby & Butler, are very handy for this because they often look like walkie-talkies and don't leave tell-tale smoke.

The kind of pot you have is also important. The cannabinoid composition varies by strain, with indica strains typically producing a "body stone" (lethargy and relaxation) and sativa strains a "head high" (euphoria and elation). Indicas are great for relaxing, but you're trying to put a bitch to bed to fuck not to sleep so stick to sativas. Building a reputation for high quality cannabis makes girls you know always much more likely to come up to your pad, so you can use cannabis to create multiple fuck buddies. I suppose the main trouble is consistently possessing good quality cannabis and not breaking the bank to do so.

Another benefit to the illegality of cannabis is that criminalization also stirs social opprobrium, despite our cannabis laws being widely ridiculed. Girls who are potheads are much more likely to be libertines open to casual sex, because what sort of girl habitually partakes in illegal activity for no purpose other than to get fucked up?

As a final point of pot game, it is a great last resort. The later the night gets, the worse the ratios are and the harder the girls are to game. At this point in time some men go home, some keep trying anyway, and others lower their standards and up their averages (this last group I like to call the Captain Ahab Society). Pot is your friend here in a very big way. Head into a greasy late night food joint, preferably one that isn't too packed. Scope out some girls, as young and drunk as possible. Young girls who are shitfaced and gorging on greasy food are nearly always down to smoke. Make them laugh so they're receptive to fun, and then you ask if they're interested in packing a bowl. Very often the answer is yes, and before long you have a drunk and high girl in your apartment in the middle of the night laughing her ass off at everything you say. The biggest obstacle here is that often one girl will be less drunk and less fun than the others in the group, and she will without fail cock block you. The second biggest problem is when the girl simply passes out, though I guess that's no problem if your rape game is tight.

Post: #30

If doesn't really "filter" anything. It's just there so that you've got something to hold onto.

Having said that, Wiz Khalifa could learn a thing about rolling from me.

Post: #31

Filters are gay and almost as bad as mixing your shit with tobacco. I roll my green with enough bud at the end to have a fat ass roach. Save all your roaches for a rainy day and roll them up. You'll be chilling on the moon.

Post: #32

I find that pot gets me self-conscious to the point where I don't even want to approach anybody, let alone be around anybody.

Post: #33

But for real thugh and I'm sure all the older smokers will agree. Everyone has their own methods and customs to get high. It all does the same shit at the end of the day and I won't discriminate if you have a bong, pipe, blunt, doo doo weed, potent one hitter quitter bud, joint, whatever. Ill smoke with you if have some to share with me. The only people I don't fuck with are roaches who never seem to have bud but will always be there when u spark it up and weed snobs. I only buy good, potent strain name bud but will gladly smoke some of your regular shwag if u have some to match. Everyones trying to do the same shit...GET HIGH

Post: #34

Weed can for sure fuck up your game. A lot of it depends on the type of weed your smoking, but more importantly what your personality/mental state/and the way you react to it. There are some guys who smoke plenty of weed before going out, and it doesn't fuck up their game, these guys' tend to be good looking, "naturals", with high confidence and good "inner game".

A lot of times weed will make a person who is naturally introverted (like myself) even more introverted and in their own head. For people who are not that confident, and have "social anxiety", smoking weed can make them feel really anxious, uncomfortable, and more than anything "self-concious". Needless to say, all those things are major game killers.

As far as types of weed, outside the west coast or Colorado most of you guys are just smoking whatever you can get. If you're luckier you'll have a wide variety of herbs to choose from. The rule of thumb is that indicas are super heavy, stony buds that are good if you just want to chill in, watch a movie, and eat a frozen pizza. Sativa, on the other hand is way more of an "up" high and is better if you want to get out of the house and do "stuff." Sativa would be a much better option to smoke before/during social situations.

To touch on the weed and motivation subject. Yes weed can severely affect your motivation (I am a perfect example of that), I'd like to think that I'm a highly intelligent person and moderately successful, but I'm lazy as fuck and I know that I waste a lot of my valuable time being stoned (like I am right now as I type this), time that I could spend actually working, accomplishing things, cleaning/organizing, reading, planning moves/ideas/strategies, etc.

If you're on the fence about going out on a Wednesday night and you are already feeling "mellow" and you take a fat bong rip, I think you're deciding your fate at that point... Munchies, "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia", and a possible xhamster whack sesh before you pass the fuck out... Not knocking it or weed, but if you're intent is to go out, be social, "run game", and try to pick up women, smoking weed is not a great plan.

Now, I burn herbs all day, but I try not to smoke anything at least 2 hours before I go out. When I go out I focus on drinking. I got a good homie who always tokes a blunt in front of the bars. I will usually hit it once or twice, but I don't want to get too stoned. It's important to have a good alcohol buzz going before you toke any ganja, because you want to enhance the feeling of the booze, not the other way around. If you smoke more at first and drink later, the alcohol will be enhancing the weed high.

Final notes, recently I roll to the bar with a little doobie twisted up. I save this for at least 2/3 of the way thru the night when I got my drink on and buzzing off that. I will either use the herbs as an opener a la G Manifesto, and ask some cute girls in front of the bars if they want to smoke. Or I will use the joint to try to get a girl(s) that I'm already taking to to step out and blaze with me as a way to isolate, build comfort, etc.

No go forth and smoke some ganja, but not too much that it fucks up your game!

Post: #35

I usually take a little pipe out with me so I can keep it low. Ognorcal, don't think we ain't getting good shit down here. Plenty of growers and I'm sure I've tried some of the shit you've smoked if u know what I mean got some Sour Diesel and Warlock right now. I'm blessed to know who I know. I agree that some people just can't handle being high and going out do their thing. Its not a drug for everyone.

Post: #36

(10-12-2011 02:07 PM)houston Wrote:  Filters are gay and almost as bad as mixing your shit with tobacco. I roll my green with enough bud at the end to have a fat ass roach. Save all your roaches for a rainy day and roll them up. You'll be chilling on the moon.

Someone who has never been to Amsterdam.

Correct?

Post: #37

Ha correct gmanifesto. I've smoked them with some people who love them and stand by my statement. I love my weed by itself and fat ass roaches.

Post: #38

(10-12-2011 02:31 PM)houston Wrote:  I usually take a little pipe out with me so I can keep it low. Ognorcal, don't think we ain't getting good shit down here. Plenty of growers and I'm sure I've tried some of the shit you've smoked if u know what I mean got some Sour Diesel and Warlock right now. I'm blessed to know who I know. I agree that some people just can't handle being high and going out do their thing. Its not a drug for everyone.

I'm packing a bowl of sour diesel right now.

Post: #39

Smoking pot would destroy my game because it involves a lot of quick wit and clever use of language. I have a friend who gets stoned every time he goes out and he always ends up being too unmotivated to approach and can't hold a conversation for shit - and he's a veteran smoker. The only benefit I've seen is the guy with the pot can get girls to go smoke with him really easily, thus starting a conversation with a common interest (I live in Sacramento where everyone has a cannabis card and flagrantly smokes outside of bars).

I prefer taking about 10mg of adderall which makes me more outgoing, confident, and lifts my mood without fail. It also seems to make me a better, more focused conversationalist. It does make attaining tumescence significantly harder though.

Post: #40

The thing about pot making you "insecure and wrapped up in your own head" is that it tends to have that effect on the girl as well. If you just stay in control and keep a quick wit, she'll feel very comfortable extremely quickly and you come out looking like a rock star to her.

A while ago I took a girl out who I knew wanted nothing more than to get her ego boosted by rejecting me as soon as I made a serious move. Quick burn cruise later she was enjoying the time we spent together so much she looked offended when I pulled up to her place and said "thanks for the good time." After an awkward silence while I looked at her in the eye, she said "...aren't you gonna...?"

I laughed, parked the car, and said "I guess." She's now on call as one of a few regulars and I pretty much owe the whole thing to tight game and good bud.