Post: #1

I brought this chick over tonight for the third time.

First time she was over we only made out

Second time she came over I pushed for the bang but she said no. I told her to leave so I could take a nap. She then apologized to me.

Third time I tried to tone it down and build more comfort but she refused the kiss wtf

What do you guys think? Should I ask why shes acting like this? She shows signs of liking me, texts me back pretty quickly, but she doesnt seem to want much physical contact.

Post: #2

(09-28-2011 11:44 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  What do you guys think?

I'd ask myself, Is it more worth my time.

Post: #3

Flat out ignore her for a few days, only give her another chance if she's still contacting you and is eager to see you, even if upset having not heard back. Your response will be purely logistical. If you see her again and she doesn't show affection that will be the last time you see her. You've done your part, if she's been there three times she's comfortable with you but doesn't want to make any investment in you. I think 3x next is fair to your balls, any more and they will be upset with you.
I would have done this after 2x, so the third time I see her is after a week of radio static. I think it's still worth doing.

Post: #4

Depends on your other options and on her other qualities obviously. Here is the tragedy... if a girl is cute, sweet and caring, and has no problem expressing her affection to me but just wants to take it slowly, I wouldn't mind waiting for sex (more than the customary 3 dates). Let her kiss me, give me gifts, cook for me, make me happy in other ways, and be like a woman, and I will tolerate not putting out for quite a long time (call me beta for this, but for a high quality woman it could be even a few months).

Unfortunately, the typical modern woman does the complete opposite - she is flaky, rude, entitled and distant. She makes herself unapproachable, plays hard to get and hot-cold, shit-tests at every opportunity, and I have to break through her artificial barrier with negs and circus shows. But once I do, she jumps into bed with me with reckless haste (read: same or next date) and thinks I will be interested because she made her affection 'scarce'. Sadly, that's not how it works.

Post: #5

I've had enough experiences with chicks trying to make me wait that if I don't get it in by the second (or third on occasion) date, adios lizard. I've invested too much time, energy, and cash into these types of girls in that past that I won't do it anymore. No play by date three? Next!

Post: #6

If I haven't seen her tits by the end of Date 1, she's history.

Post: #7

She MOST LIKELY has another penis on standby. You are too valuable as a male to waste your time with this lizard. Charge her and move on.

I've had many issues like that. I had one lizard that I went on three dates with. She dodged my kisses as if my lips were coated with corrosive acid, would NOT come back to my place no matter how many ploys I tried.

I stopped responding to her droll text messages (since she hardly returned phone calls) and I deleted her shyt.

Post: #8

Good question....real good question.

It depends on how sincere I feel that the girl is. If I can tell by her lifestyle and how she moves, that she is more than likely not the type to just be fucking a guy unless she really feels that he is into her, I wont trip. Ill give her the benefit of the doubt and wont really press her if I know that Im not really that into her.

But if I can sense that she is more than likely full of shit cause I get this party girl carefree vibe from her, and she is just holding out on me in particular for whatever reason, 2 maybe 3 times of trying to fuck without penetration will get her kicked to the curb.

Post: #9

Even the Rules will tell a woman that it is ok to sleep with a man after 3 dates. If she is making you work harder than that bullshit then you need to bounce.

Post: #10

If you feel like you're putting in too much work ...then you are.

This same girl will give it up first night to a guy she's into.

The fact that she apologized to you means she's being submissive towards you. That's a good thing.
She knows she did something wrong or feels guilty at least.

You have to lower her priority level temporarily. Ignore her text for a day or cancel plans one time.

Give her one more chance to put out after that. Then cut her loose cause she doesn't know what she wants.

Post: #11

She's coming over so you should just change tactics unless you are swimming in poon. Invite her to go with you to do errands and build more comfort and try to stop for a couple drinks at the same time before you get to the pad.
Don't show her the basketball/bong set-up and refrain from weed (game killer)until you close her.

What kind of moves are you trying to get her in bed?

Post: #12

(09-29-2011 01:21 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Depends on your other options and on her other qualities obviously. Here is the tragedy... if a girl is cute, sweet and caring, and has no problem expressing her affection to me but just wants to take it slowly, I wouldn't mind waiting for sex (more than the customary 3 dates). Let her kiss me, give me gifts, cook for me, make me happy in other ways, and be like a woman, and I will tolerate not putting out for quite a long time (call me beta for this, but for a high quality woman it could be even a few months).

Unfortunately, the typical modern woman does the complete opposite - she is flaky, rude, entitled and distant. She makes herself unapproachable, plays hard to get and hot-cold, shit-tests at every opportunity, and I have to break through her artificial barrier with negs and circus shows. But once I do, she jumps into bed with me with reckless haste (read: same or next date) and thinks I will be interested because she made her affection 'scarce'. Sadly, that's not how it works.

This. Not sure how long I could put up with it, but a very cute, genuinely sweet girl, I could wait more than 3 dates. I meet so few girls I'd like to seriously date, and I've only had a brief exclusive relationship ever, that I just want to try it out when the chance arises. I tell girls dryly, "I'm a romantic," and they bust out laughing because I've been an asshole all night. But for a sweet girl, I think I could be 'charming' in the traditional sense.

But if I sense that she's put out way more quickly for some other guy, I'm much more likely to feel manipulated and lose interest. If you feel like she could get dicked in your few days apart between dates, then waiting may be a fool's errand.

There has to be some sort of progression. If you touch her breasts on the first date, and still only touch her breasts on the second and third, and she's not a virgin, it's probably time to go. Or to fake real interest in her.

Post: #13

Looks like were all share similar ideals on this subject.

El-First time she came over we smoked and watched netflix.

Second time she smoked me out and laid on my bed. She didnt want to lay on my bed, it took effort to peel her out of my my cpu chair when I so she could lay next to me on the bed. While on the bed she had her arms crossed.

Third time was a study session. Despite me being hilarious, she was very serious about actually studying. After like an hour of studying I put in Austin Powers and did basic escalation tecchniques.

Post: #14

(09-29-2011 11:30 AM)kickboxer Wrote:  Looks like were all share similar ideals on this subject.

El-First time she came over we smoked and watched netflix.

Second time she smoked me out and laid on my bed. She didnt want to lay on my bed, it took effort to peel her out of my my cpu chair when I so she could lay next to me on the bed. While on the bed she had her arms crossed.

Third time was a study session. Despite me being hilarious, she was very serious about actually studying. After like an hour of studying I put in Austin Powers and did basic escalation tecchniques.

Ok try what I said before. Ditch the weed and movies. Tell her that the weed man is coming later and switch to drinks.

Post: #15

Was she drinking before she came over this last time? If the girl has been drinking and doesn't want to have sex stop wasting your time. If she's sober, and she has a religious background then its excusable.

Post: #16

(09-29-2011 10:15 AM)Yams Wrote:  Even the Rules will tell a woman that it is ok to sleep with a man after 3 dates. If she is making you work harder than that bullshit then you need to bounce.

Really? Rule #15 says:

Quote:Don't Rush into Sex, Wait at Least Three Dates

Any girl who follows "The Rules" won't be seeing me very often.

Post: #17

"How long before a girls lack of putting out turns you away?"

Straight up depends on the girl.

If she is gracefully, femininly, and artistically, seducing me, I can hold out a little (good luck with this one with American girls).

And she is extremely high class, comes from a good family, is super fly, and doesn't bug the f*ck out of me.

Otherwise, I have a very short attention span.

There are just too many girls in the world.

Post: #18

2-3 dates. Unless she somehow manages to keep interested, which is rare if we are not getting physical.