Post: #1

Whether you're running online or day game overseas (SE Asia primarily) with getting the flag being your goal do you have better luck telling the girl you just met that you're leaving tomorrow or in a couple days or that you live here or staying for a few months (the truth)?

Lets assume you're going after somewhat above average, not like 5/6 that require no effort at all.

Post: #2

I think the consensus on this is that you tell them that you don't know when you're leaving. This way it's definitely a time constraint, but not so much were you to say that you are leaving tomorrow or something, where their assumptions then turn to you looking for a quick hook up.

I think this can be played a couple different ways, but that is how I have previously done it, even if I was only in town for the week.

Post: #3

(08-12-2018 08:48 AM)finalstep Wrote:  Whether you're running online or day game overseas (SE Asia primarily) with getting the flag being your goal do you have better luck telling the girl you just met that you're leaving tomorrow or in a couple days or that you live here or staying for a few months (the truth)?
Lets assume you're going after somewhat above average, not like 5/6 that require no effort at all.

I would assume that it depends on whether women are going to see you as a short term lover or a potential BF. Both ways will rule out a particular set of women... and require certain things of you.

Post: #4

(08-12-2018 09:51 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(08-12-2018 08:48 AM)finalstep Wrote:  Whether you're running online or day game overseas (SE Asia primarily) with getting the flag being your goal do you have better luck telling the girl you just met that you're leaving tomorrow or in a couple days or that you live here or staying for a few months (the truth)?
Lets assume you're going after somewhat above average, not like 5/6 that require no effort at all.

I would assume that it depends on whether women are going to see you as a short term lover or a potential BF. Both ways will rule out a particular set of women... and require certain things of you.

Well my goal is to capture the flag within the first meeting, so ruling out girls who would normally make me wait anyway is ok, but ideally I wanna score with the ones that don't go to a random dudes hotel on a whim every night. So trying to find the best approach for those.

Post: #5

(08-12-2018 09:51 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(08-12-2018 08:48 AM)finalstep Wrote:  Whether you're running online or day game overseas (SE Asia primarily) with getting the flag being your goal do you have better luck telling the girl you just met that you're leaving tomorrow or in a couple days or that you live here or staying for a few months (the truth)?
Lets assume you're going after somewhat above average, not like 5/6 that require no effort at all.

I would assume that it depends on whether women are going to see you as a short term lover or a potential BF. Both ways will rule out a particular set of women... and require certain things of you.

Since he was talking about SE Asia, I'd assume the majority of women sees at least a tiny bit of (financial/gift) revenue and they'd be happy to keep that for some time.

Also I see no real way of determining what the girl really is looking for (short term/BF) that leaves only two options:
* go for the short term version and avoid stress from the start but on the other hand rule out a big set of women
* go for the BF version, but possibly you even need to lie when confronted about your motives?; also might be stressful to get rid of her afterwards when you really stay in town (depending on the size etc. of course); but on the other hand the bigger set of women might be available to you

Post: #6

I heard this guy Goldmund saying something about this on a podcast, which I later copied and have used a handful of times successfully.
So basically just say that you're on a one-way ticket and haven't decided yet how long you're going to be there.

His point was it helps making you mysterious, helps the girl rationalize fucking you and still has that option open for her that it could be something long-term and if you actually have a bit of money so you could afford to stay there for a little while, it doesn't exactly give a worse impression too.

Post: #7

2 weeks, this applies to women and strangers.

Protect yourself. You never now who is a hater.

Post: #8

It really depends on the situation and how you can identify what your target is looking for. Another aspect which has played a role for me is that I normally travel with some friends which excludes the possibility that you are already here for long term.
It worked pretty good for me telling that I work for an international company and have been here for work but decided to come back with friends since I thought it is a fun city. Shows you have a job which let's you travel and have potential to at least come back or maybe even stay long term and that you return "just for fun".
This will leave out some targets which are looking for the long term man which stays on site but will catch more attention from the group who'd exclude the "sex tourist". Of course you need to be able to back up your story if you receive deeper questions if they are suspicious. But this is not difficult in my case since I do work for an international company. Don't make up too big of a story since it might become hard to follow up during the night once you get tipsy ;-)

Post: #9

(11-20-2018 11:37 PM)Swell Wrote:  2 weeks, this applies to women and strangers.

Protect yourself. You never now who is a hater.

I don't see the point in being so precise. If you are vague you can leave after 2 weeks anyway. Even if you say you'll stay months you could just pack your things and go without telling anybody.

Also I am curious on how badly you behave if you have to fear haters everywhere

Post: #10

I'd tell her I want to live there, which doesn't mean I'm not leaving in two weeks.

Post: #11

(11-20-2018 09:46 PM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  I heard this guy Goldmund saying something about this on a podcast, which I later copied and have used a handful of times successfully.
So basically just say that you're on a one-way ticket and haven't decided yet how long you're going to be there.

His point was it helps making you mysterious, helps the girl rationalize fucking you and still has that option open for her that it could be something long-term and if you actually have a bit of money so you could afford to stay there for a little while, it doesn't exactly give a worse impression too.

Totally agree with this, unless it's a short trip, then in some situations it can help if you tell them that you leave soon. If you stay longer than a month don't say when is your return flight, just say you have a one way ticket. I was recently on a work trip that was supposed to last two months and made mistake of saying when I will be leaving. The girl I met at the very beginning knew I had to stay almost two months or even more. She was playing hard to get until the few days before my flight. I reckon if she thought I'd stay 3 weeks instead of 2 months we'd have sex way much sooner. For her it was the most important that it could be something long term and that I might come back, but I lost a bit of mystery when I told her my return flight. Although she really was dating material and nice person I wish I scored earlier/images/icons/wink.gif.

Post: #12

In my experience it doesn't really make that big of a difference. IE If I tell a girl i'm just here for one night and she wanted to be courted she'll just dismiss as 'oh not enough time for what I want', rather than urgency of 'guess I gotta fuck him now!'. Sexual urgency I feel is more of a guy thing and we project that women have it like we do.

Post: #13

Really depends on the city and girl, it seems like staying here for a while and seeing how much I like it is a good response that covers both archetypes of girl .

Post: #14

What if she says "What are you looking for?" I find many SEA girls ask this question!

Post: #15

You should say that you’re looking to develop a relationship with someone while you’re here. Don’t say casual dating

Post: #16

Most girls don't want to be pumped and dumped

It's kind of fucked up but it's better to be open-ended.

E.g. "I might get transferred here for work and seeing if I like it"

Similar (from above):

Quote:I heard this guy Goldmund saying something about this on a podcast, which I later copied and have used a handful of times successfully.
So basically just say that you're on a one-way ticket and haven't decided yet how long you're going to be there.

His point was it helps making you mysterious, helps the girl rationalize fucking you and still has that option open for her that it could be something long-term and if you actually have a bit of money so you could afford to stay there for a little while, it doesn't exactly give a worse impression too.

Post: #17

I actually started thinking about this recently. I haven't decided yet if I should state in my online bio that I'm traveling. The truth (DHV but also kills anything long term) or being vague (no dhv but she doesn't feel like she might get pumped and dumped).

Post: #18

To be honest, I'm open for a relationship but in Roosh's new book 'Game,' it says not to say you are looking for a girlfriend??

Post: #19

I've had good results by telling girls i'm here I only have a couple of days left, but coming back in 3 months to setup an office and likely staying permanently. This takes care of both sides, the "sexual urgency" and the girl looking to lock down the interest of a foreigner long term. If you are looking for a relationship and she catches your eye you can always say your company extended your stay or some shit at the end of the 2 days.

Post: #20

I went through Oklahoma City a few years ago for 2.5 months of job training. Met up with 2 girls and banged them both, was totally upfront that I'm only here for 3 months for job training with ___ agency.

I told the first girl on our first date, then I went to the bathroom and as I walked back to the table I saw over her shoulder she had texted her girlfriend, who replied "omg he is only here for 2.5 months!??". Didn't seem to bother my date tho, ended up making out that night and banging 2 dates later.

Same with girl #2, she actually worked in the travel department doing vouchers for the agency I was working for. Totally upfront with her too, banged, departed and she flew out to visit me for the weekend at my next city after I had left OKC.

My buddy was also in training with me there and banged one of the hottest instructors we had. Obviously she knew he was just passing through, and he showed me the texts of her all sad and shit that he was leaving. He was like, uh you knew I wasn't going to be staying here. She was all, "I know but I'm sad youre leaving etc".

Two lays isn't a big enough data pool to draw conclusion from but that's been my experience so far.

Post: #21

(04-22-2019 08:32 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  I went through Oklahoma City a few years ago for 2.5 months of job training. Met up with 2 girls and banged them both, was totally upfront that I'm only here for 3 months for job training with ___ agency.

I told the first girl on our first date, then I went to the bathroom and as I walked back to the table I saw over her shoulder she had texted her girlfriend, who replied "omg he is only here for 2.5 months!??". Didn't seem to bother my date tho, ended up making out that night and banging 2 dates later.

Same with girl #2, she actually worked in the travel department doing vouchers for the agency I was working for. Totally upfront with her too, banged, departed and she flew out to visit me for the weekend at my next city after I had left OKC.

My buddy was also in training with me there and banged one of the hottest instructors we had. Obviously she knew he was just passing through, and he showed me the texts of her all sad and shit that he was leaving. He was like, uh you knew I wasn't going to be staying here. She was all, "I know but I'm sad youre leaving etc".

Two lays isn't a big enough data pool to draw conclusion from but that's been my experience so far.

I think it also depends where you are. If you do this in Italy, Argentina, or with high value girls in SE Asia I don't think it will work very well. In Cuba or Brazil you'll be just fine.