Post: #1

Recently, I have started to catch on Youtube TED and TEDx talks. I hear them when I'm driving in my car to and from work, especially if I'm alone.

I came across the following talk:




The giest
"The claim that the female orgasm is just as natural and should be just as expected as the male orgasm is a controversial one, because society conditions us to regard the female orgasm as something extra.
Grace Wetzel, a junior at St. Lawrence University, explains the phenomenon known as the orgasm gap and explores the straight woman's sexual experience. Grace Wetzel is a junior at St. Lawrence University with a Psychology major, a Biology Minor, and a Gender & Sexuality Studies Minor.
Grace has a passion for intersectional feminism and social justice. Her long-term dream is to change the stigmas and inequalities surrounding the female sexual experience."

OK, I know you are now thinking: "WTF is wrong with you? Arguing with feminists and SJW is a waste of time". Normally , I agree. However, I decided to debunk the arguments stated in the talk. Not all of them, though. Just like in the Eastwood movie - there is the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

The Good
She actually has nailed (pun intended) some of the topics, that we all come to agree upon:
1. Sex is not just penetration - She actually nails it pretty fast (2:16). When a girl tells you her N-Count is X, she probably refers to P2V action. But if she gave BJs that would move that number way up.
2. Guys, and girls, don't have enough knowledge on how the female body works - Been there, done that (pun again intended). Guys know their body pretty well, but I have come across many girls who were semi-clueless on how their body (sexualy) works. I had girls convinced that they can only climax from oral sex, or a certain position (That proved in most cases wrong, not to mention training an LTR to orgasm on your favorite positions).
3. (One of ) The purpose(s) of sex (for females) is pleasure - Always keep that in mind. Females expect pleasure and want it. I see Blue-Pill guys almost always missing this point. This means, to some extent, that there is a burden of performance on me (the man), since we know that girls expect things just to "happen on their own" (=w/o them doing anything apart from showing up).
4. Women should ask for pleasure - Look, if I'm with a women, and want to keep her around, for whatever reason (SEX, Dah!) then I want her to enjoy it. I, and I believe most of us, would rather have the female enjoy the sex as well. But if you are in bed with someone who doesn't help you (And most of us have been there, lying on top of a silent "rock") then you do what you can and move on. I make a habit of telling girls that I expect them to ask for what they want, but reserve the right to refuse (just like they have the right to say "NO").
5. "Women were 56% less likely to have an orgasm in a first hookup than in a committed relationship" - Spread the news, encourage the girls to move out of hookup culture - "No orgasm for you".
If the message could only resonate more in the MSM, we would have far less hookups.

The Bad
1. "Straight women have a very different experience with sex then straight men" (0:50) - Let's ignore the critical fact that men have 8-10 times more testosterone, and want sex in frequencies which are 2-4 times more. Even so, we are talking about a different body, with different needs. Why should it be the same?
Women are sellers and men are buyers of sex. The seller always has a different experience of the process, then the buyer. This of course comes from the Blank Slate Egalitarianism that feminists side with (when it is convenient ). So it's either men should have the experience of women or the other way around. I have no idea how that works.
2. Fake orgasm = putting the man's pleasure above the women - NO, NO and NO again. Fake orgasm usually means that the women wants to end the hassle of transnational sex (Giving the Beta something to keep getting the resources). It's not that her orgasm is less important, it is that continue to enjoy the man's resources is a priority.

The Ugly
1. "Asking for pleasure comes with the assumption that you deserve it" -

That is so dumb, only a feminist can think that. So you only ask for things you "deserve"? How would one know if one deserves something?
This send the message that females are entitled to orgasms. So the next step is legislating it into the penal code (pun once again intended). If she deserves it and you did not give it to her then you'll need to cough up some cash (that will give her a different kind of orgasm).
2. "It can be hard to ask to something from your partner when that person is making that act feels like an inconvenience or chore" - You just described how hundreds of million of men feel when they want to have sex. Really?
How about equalizing accessibility to sex, and then let's take care of the "orgasm gap"?
3. "A lot of time women feel like they just can't ask" (10:53) - So you are stating the problem, but no solution?
How about that - If someone wants something they ask for it. They might get it, or they might not. If you don't come up with a solution, then it is implied that someone else (=the man) has to figure it out. So it's my fault again, is it?

And one last thing
There is an underlying assumption, that come from the Egalitarian ideology - that the male orgasm is equal to the female one.
Anecdotal evidence - I have witnessed girls go crazy and lose their shit after an orgasm. I have seen girls orgasm for over a minutes. I have seen them cry and emote. That does not happen every time, but it happens a lot.
Me on the other hand, and it's only anecdotal, have never gone so far.
So maybe, just maybe, as she states at 13:00 "the experience of pleasure is different for every person". And that difference is that the female orgasm is far more intensive then the male one, and therefore may not be compared

Post: #2

Why do women fake orgasms?

Because they think men care.

Post: #3

Some of the early TEDs were cool, but they've jumped the shark with popularity.

TED X is 3rd tier garbage, junk science for the "feels"

Post: #4

(08-01-2018 06:23 PM)TheOllam Wrote:  Some of the early TEDs were cool, but they've jumped the shark with popularity.

TED X is 3rd tier garbage, junk science for the "feels"

It was a lot deeper than "jumped the shark", it was straight up co-opted by activists for push various agendas.

Post: #5

The best "Ted Talk" was the one in the "Onion talks" #4

Post: #6

Quote:The Ugly
1. "Asking for pleasure comes with the assumption that you deserve it" -

That is so dumb, only a feminist can think that. So you only ask for things you "deserve"? How would one know if one deserves something?
This send the message that females are entitled to orgasms. So the next step is legislating it into the penal code (pun once again intended). If she deserves it and you did not give it to her then you'll need to cough up some cash (that will give her a different kind of orgasm).

Deserve it? Fuck that shit. How about this. If you're married to someone You owe it to your partner to give them pleasure whenever they want and that request is reasonable. That goes for both people in it. The bottom line in Christian teaching is that if they want to get laid and you're not feeling it that's tough. You give them what they need unless there's a good reason why you can't at the time.

Quote:2. "It can be hard to ask to something from your partner when that person is making that act feels like an inconvenience or chore" - You just described how hundreds of million of men feel when they want to have sex. Really?

As if that's something that applies only to women the way this broad things.

Quote:3. "A lot of time women feel like they just can't ask" (10:53) -

Not my problem.

Quote:1. "Straight women have a very different experience with sex then straight men" (0:50)

Yeah. They can get off 5-6 times in a row during one session. I can get off once. Exactly what is the problem here?

Post: #7

Every TED I've ever seen/listened too was just a bunch of far-leftwing bullshit and pseudo-intellectual hoop jumping. Pass.

Post: #8

I thought this was going to be about how sexual pleasure differs between men and women, a topic that's actually interesting, but instead it was some authoritarian whore complaining.

Gay.

Post: #9

There's only one TEDx talk worth watching, and that's the one where Sam Hyde Sokal'd their smug asses:





TED, and much more so TEDx, is the Buzzfeed of lectures.

Post: #10

I did an six hour fishing charter with two women and two men. One of thee women was this bald headed skinny bitch that dyed what little hair she had pink. She was some type of marketing guru and had breast cancer.

Every other word out of this cunts mouth was "so in my Ted talk " or "i did a ted talk" blah blah blah shut up.

I swear on whatever Jews swear on I wanted to drown this bitch and her faggot friends but I didn't.

Ted talks can be done by anyone. It just gives snotty ass types something to yap about.

Aloha!

Post: #11

butterface but tits make her a solid 5/10 imo, WB.

Post: #12

Women talking about sex isn't women talking about sex. It's women advertising their own sexuality.

From what I've been able to gather, the above woman went to a football-oriented high school in Pennsylvania, where her nerdy looks probably got her passed over by every jock. This is a way she can metaphorically get their attention.

Accent on the "metaphor." Because I made it through about seven minutes of this video and it bored me with its obvious and redundant points. Nothing is less sexy than putting someone to sleep while you drone on.

Post: #13

TED has gone to shit with its pseudo science and left wing bullshit. TED talks are surrogates to an age old human tradition of telling stories and sharing wisdom but in today's disconnected world that is all you got, if you can pay attention between your IG updates and snapchat stories.

Post: #14

A heightened state of arousal is key to getting off. Why women cant figure this out is a mystery to me.

Post: #15

@rpg it's because women expect everything to magically happen "to them" during sex. A smart girl knows that it takes two to tango and will be a willing player in the sexual dynamics leading up to the actual bang session. Which is why personally I've experienced, on average, better sex with smarter girls.

Post: #16

(08-01-2018 10:37 PM)monsquid Wrote:  @rpg it's because women expect everything to magically happen "to them" during sex. A smart girl knows that it takes two to tango and will be a willing player in the sexual dynamics leading up to the actual bang session. Which is why personally I've experienced, on average, better sex with smarter girls.

I think you mean "experienced" girls.
They have to be smart in a certain way.

Post: #17

Quote:...it's because women expect everything to magically happen "to them" during sex.

I'd listen to a venerable pornstar like Nina Hartley giving lectures on better sex way before a 4/10 bookworm like this.

As men I think it's tempting to buy into the blame-game and just say it's women's fault for being starfish.

I think both men and women, on average (regardless of SMV), are terrible at sex, but in different ways that just compound the problems.

Being good at sex is an isolated skill. Obviously physical attraction is a strong component of sexual arousal, but it only goes so far when it comes to the challenge of men pleasing women, and especially through intercourse.

I've sensed mixed attitudes when it comes to male sexual performance here. One faction is more interested in the notch considering that it's mostly ONSs and not repeat business. I have a hard time relating with that. If sex is the goal I want to make it as good as I possibly can each and every time. If you value it that much, you'll strive to master it.

Post: #18

Didn't watch the ted talk.

I'm pretty damn good at sex from my understanding of the average mans performance as relayed to me by females. I'm dominant, assertive, got stamina for days (really it just takes a while for me to cum). My average sex session the girl cums 3 times minimum, though I'm not satisfied unless the girl gets into the 6-10 numbers. It's actually important to me and I get off on it, which of course I would never tell them because then they would feel pressured or I would lose my dominance frame. Admittedly when I started my fucking career I wasn't good at it and didn't really have enough data to make women lose themselves in mind numbing orgasmic bliss consistently. Also I didn't have a lot of men to guide me in that respect. I've always been good at communicating on a certain level and eventually learned the lions share of my knowledge from direct experimentation and a good amount from some bold women being honest about what they actually liked, god bless them. It couldn't be clearer in my mind now how to please a woman (and myself) in bed and it's actually pretty simple.

Be dominant, in control, and lead the whole experience. Surprise surprise women like men who lead and it follows through to the bedroom. It's also integral that you take control and remind her from time to time that she's fucking a physically (and hopefully mentally) superior man that could at any time completely wreck her but chooses to protect and guide her instead. The caveat being she wants but the element of danger and the security that comes from safety. Sounds contradictory but it isn't, the danger reminds her you're capable and the safety validates her ego because you picked her and shes worthy since you're not killing her. Dominance and frame control in and outside the bedroom is probably 70%+ of the experience, if you play that perfect and give her lousy dick and get her off with your fingers you'll have a satisfied dreamy eyed girl 9/10 times. Lookin at you whisky dickers. I also set rules down really quick that may seem just hot to her but it helps me tap into her rhythm. So always tell me when you cum, always thank me after (so i know how long and intense her orgasms are, when she's back from lala land) and a few others. It's paramount to enforce these rules and allow no exception unchecked, spanking choking slapping serve as potent reminders.

It's always important to remember the brain is the biggest sexual organ we have and a good dicking starts up in their dome piece way before it moves down south and it's important to keep that shit lubricated, the pussy will lubricate itself after.

With dominance comes responsability but, your needs come first. It has to be congruent sex is really primal and intimate there's just no faking some stuff at least not for very long. I like my girls to cum, a lot, I enjoy it a lot. So when I bang a girl I'm enjoying the fuck out of it making it happen but it's on my terms the way I want. It's like a really easy puzzle with like 3 pieces that my dumb ass likes putting together over and over again like an autistic 2 year old. If you genuinely don't give a shit about it, it will probably seem forced and weird if you're trying to get her approval and loyalty by making her cum.

Get good at finding the clit and understand the rhythm of her body. Girls moan, it's natures way of letting you know where shes at. If you listen and tune into it it couldn't be easier. With new girls I usually get them off with my fingers before I even fuck them just to see what's up.

I'm on a phone and could post more but I'm sure you gents already know or get the gist. I'd be happy to write a mini sex guide if someone wants a few friendly tips

Side note out of the high double digits of women i've fucked Ive only failed in making 1 cum. Her notch count was admittedly in the 50s and had a penchant for black fellas so I didnt take it too hard. I think her vsg was broken

Post: #19

There's a Ted Talk called "How to speak so people want to listen." This bitch should study that. I lasted 30 seconds...and not in the good way.

Post: #20

(08-01-2018 11:57 PM)questor70 Wrote:  I'd listen to a venerable pornstar like Nina Hartley giving lectures on better sex way before a 4/10 bookworm like this.

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I've sensed mixed attitudes when it comes to male sexual performance here. One faction is more interested in the notch considering that it's mostly ONSs and not repeat business. I have a hard time relating with that. If sex is the goal I want to make it as good as I possibly can each and every time. If you value it that much, you'll strive to master it.

+1 on Nina Hartley. She was a great sexual advocate and encouraged/criticized both men and women. I've put her how to give cunnilingus video to great results. Best thing about Nina was that she has a positive vibe that encourages enjoying sexuality. It's almost the opposite of the stuff you see nowadays in porn with women getting face fucked, slapped, and choked out.

Sex is complex but in general I see two types of sex that I'm engaging in. The more intimate and less rushed LTR sex and ONS's that have varying degrees of compatibility with the partner. But the problem with the ONS is that there is no return session to improve, communicate, and nurture further intimacy. The LTR sex can be amazing if both partners are growing sexually together, but again this doesn't happen as often as it should because it requires willing partners on both side. And most importantly both partners have to a desire to please the other.

Younger men and women could learn a lot from Nina Hartley.

Post: #21

(08-01-2018 10:01 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  butterface but tits make her a solid 5/10 imo, WB.

I kind of go for her look, but she looks too much like Mr. Bean. When you said butterface you weren't kidding.

Post: #22

(08-01-2018 10:58 PM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 10:37 PM)monsquid Wrote:  @rpg it's because women expect everything to magically happen "to them" during sex. A smart girl knows that it takes two to tango and will be a willing player in the sexual dynamics leading up to the actual bang session. Which is why personally I've experienced, on average, better sex with smarter girls.

I think you mean "experienced" girls.
They have to be smart in a certain way.

Also experience with each other, man and woman. Hard for a girl to level up her arousals when she is having a drunk bang with a Tinder date. Very easy for her to connect the dots when it's the 6th time with someone she cares for.

The test if a girl is actually an eager participant is if she is receptive to not only what you guide and direct her to do but also if she picks up on your responses as well. She will quickly learn certain things that make you feel great and will repeat them when she can.

Also, some girls personality types are more conducive to being more focused on pleasing. I vibe well with these as I only have to tell them once what to do and they pick up on it and then I can focus on them which they at times can neglect due to then wanting to please the man more than themselves.

Post: #23

1/4 of women don't orgasm when having sex with men. 1 in 4 women get raped in college. Problem solved.

Post: #24

(08-01-2018 10:06 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Women talking about sex isn't women talking about sex. It's women advertising their own sexuality.

Yep.

Post: #25

(08-01-2018 09:10 PM)Kona Wrote:  I did an six hour fishing charter with two women and two men. One of thee women was this bald headed skinny bitch that dyed what little hair she had pink. She was some type of marketing guru and had breast cancer.

Every other word out of this cunts mouth was "so in my Ted talk " or "i did a ted talk" blah blah blah shut up.

I swear on whatever Jews swear on I wanted to drown this bitch and her faggot friends but I didn't.

Ted talks can be done by anyone. It just gives snotty ass types something to yap about.

Aloha!

I remember years ago I went on a Tinder date with some chick who was talking herself up about some TED talk she did. I wasn't impressed then, but I was even less impressed when I learned later that anyone can get on that shit and talk about whatever. It's almost reminiscent of some new-age open mic.