Post: #51

(08-03-2018 03:07 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  There's a lot in your post Rigsby that I can relate to, have experienced, can understand, but it will take more thought before a good response.

One thing to note is that you bring up the norm of reciprocity, which is an important concept, something that keeps civilizations going, but is not altruism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norm_of_re..._stability

Quote:The norm of reciprocity requires that we repay in kind what another has done for us.[1] It can be understood as the expectation that people will respond favorably to each other by returning benefits for benefits, and responding with either indifference or hostility to harms. The social norm of reciprocity often takes different forms in different areas of social life, or in different societies. All of them, however, are distinct from related ideas such as gratitude, the Golden Rule, or mutual goodwill.

Quote:An underlying norm of reciprocity is by itself a powerful engine for motivating, creating, sustaining, and regulating the cooperative behavior required for self-sustaining social organizations, controlling the damage done by the unscrupulous, and contributing to social system stability.

We could almost call this norm a more formalized, societal version of altruism, though it does, as you point out, stray from true altruism because of the obvious self interest involved.

I will totally agree with you 100 percent on reciprocity. That's something I make a point to do. If someone does something for me, I make damn sure I compensate them.

Ironically, a lot of the altruistic people I know treat the actual people they know day-to-day poorly: They're rude, they don't compensate people properly, etc.

My negative attitude toward all of this probably has to do with dealing with such people for so many years. They have a secret hiding place. It's called "newspaper offices."

Post: #52

Whenever I think of Sweden I think of Youtuber "Angry Foreigner" and his take on modern Swedish culture and politics.

Post: #53

It would have only taken four police officers at most to get her off the plane. It wouldn't have been that hard to have taken her off the plane. This is generally the captain's call--he is allowed to eject anyone from the plane for any reason. The airline should reprimand him for handling this situation so poorly.

Post: #54

Some interesting facts about the Afghan man she so heroically saved:

*he served 9 months in jail for beating his daughters with an electric cable, knocking his wife's head against the floor, etc.
* the prosecution did not demand deportation - he actually wanted to the leave Sweden
* the whole lot of them were of course groundless asylum seekers to begin with
* now the wife and kids presumably get to stay as victims of battery

So, in conclusion: her rabid attention-seeking did nothing but temporarily halt the travel of a violent convict who wanted to go back in the first place. The guy she actually wanted to save is already back in Afghanistan, and the police are (surprisingly) actually conducting an investigation.

Meanwhile, the head of the Swedish Bar Association has come out in support of the craziness, citing "human rights," "freedom of speech" while referring cuntishly to the actual law as "democratic" in scare quotes. As you surely realize, she is a white middle-aged cunt.

Post: #55

Women have a biological immunity to the red pill. Logic, reason and survival of their people are meaningless to them. Evolution has made them biologically dependent on being socially accepted and most would never risk social rejection no matter how profound or important the ‘truth’ is. Men seek truth and protect their tribe. Women care only about social acceptance abt the survival of their progeny. They are hard wired to protect the young, weak and vulnerable, (their kids) by their mothering nature. The problem with that is that that sentiment is extended to the entire world who they consider the young, weak and vulnerable (subconsciously) that they need to protect, which comes at the expense of modern western civilization. This biological hard wiring in a women is why they are destroyers of civilizations if they are given the opportunity to do so, that is if we don’t keep them in their place. A woman given freedom to make their own choices will destroy their life, the lives of everyone around them, and as an extension, society as a whole

Post: #56

< Actually women support shitlord societies well enough if it's led in some kind of benevolent sexist way.

In the past this was done with traditions that were aware of the Red Pill.

In our times we can even add science, Game and psychological behavior - encourage men to be shitlords with Game and tell women the truth - that they will be more happy as housewives who submit. And tell them that on average they can never compete with men on any achievement levels. Attempting to become men with little dicks won't make them happy. The patriarchy did not make them lesser scientists and managers - they are on average not evolved for those tasks.

A sane society can get the full support of women when the ideas permeate society. Women are such herd animals that they support plenty of bad ideas when most people support it. Unfortunately in our times their weaknesses have been exploited heavily to destroy our societies. The elite is fully Red Pill aware and simply does the opposite while their own daughters have stable families and have many children.

Women are not our enemies - it's the system who whips them into a frenzy.


There is a way back from the abyss. Unfortunately the elite knows this too - the pendulum will swing back. That is why they need the Afghanis and Africans. When your country is filled with enough of them, then the Western women can return to sanity and it would not matter anymore.

Post: #57

At least there's one good piece of news out of Sweden today. In the prison holding last year's truck of peace driver another inmate got into his cell and beat the shit out of him. Let's hope for some permanent pain.

Post: #58

Simeon I agree with you 100% The we cannot blame women as a whole for this mess, it is ultimately up to the men in a society control this problem and our women, as they will naturally fall in line with the social norms that exist. We need to red pill more men and once it hits a critical mass, the women will follow. This is no easy task, every redpilled man will eventually lead to more and more, truth spreads like a virus and takes huge efforts to suppress. Leftism is indeed weaponized against societies and also spreads like a virus as today’s beta male falls for the same social pressures that control women. We cannot be black pilled or give up on this, I have a lot of hope for our cause, you can tell that the elites are afraid when they freak out about our progress. You know you are over the target when you are catching flak. We need more shitlords and we are growing in number. We must ridicule anyone who opposes us, men and women, as it is a very powerful weapon in our arsenal, it hits them in the ‘social acceptance’ weak spot that they are controlled by. Never apologize, never back down by doing that we neutralize their power of social shaming, which is their most powerful weapon. Once they realize that they cannot shame you socially or emotionally what else is there to use but logic and reason, which they will fail at miserably and eventually must either argue with truth or run from the fight. We win either way. It is a slow grind but we must be patient, because the elites in this fight are very patient. This is a war they are willing to fight over decades or longer, the slow march. The more they shut us down and censor us, the more it helps us because they are proving our points for us. They are not trying to shut down arguments and ideas because they are offensive, they are shutting them down because they are convincing. They will jump the shark (they already are) and start shutting down normie conservative ideas which will only bring more people who are on the fence to our side.

Post: #59

It's now being reported that the Swedish man whose deportation this woman was protesting was an "aggressive wife beater" and whipped his wife and daughters.

This has not made the major national news outlets (of course), but Voice Of Europe is reporting it and sourced it from a Swedish news outlet called Fria Tider.

Fria Tider is said to be very right wing in focus. But that doesn't mean this isn't the truth. If anyone can read Swedish, here is the original Fria Tider news story.

Post: #60

^^^^^^
Paul Joseph Watson is probably reading this forum. He did a video on the above subject, but titled it "Pathological Altruism," which is where we all went with the topic here.

Post: #61

^ Not the mention he did the video about Neomasculinity which Roosh coined and no one else touched.

Post: #62

(08-09-2018 07:40 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  ^^^^^^
Paul Joseph Watson is probably reading this forum. He did a video on the above subject, but titled it "Pathological Altruism," which is where we all went with the topic here.

I’ve been looking for a name for this phenomenon, that’s perfect.