Post: #26

(07-26-2018 01:43 AM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  

Suits Wrote:

(07-26-2018 12:53 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

(07-25-2018 09:33 PM)travolta Wrote:  If you move somewhere ONLY for girls then you are a simp

You just insulted most of the forum

Not even close. I'd surprised if most of the forum has even travelled somewhere else for pussy.

I agree. Every time I post outside the travel section, I get called a silver troll or get a warning. It’s like a whole nother world in those threads. I’m going to stay in my safe place with other well traveled people.

Be cool man. Our mods have a tough job keeping the forum running smoothly, but if you're picking up warnings on a regular basis, you're doing something wrong.

I'm not a mod and I can't tell you how they make decisions about how to run the forum, but I can tell you that simply going the extra mile in showing respect for other members, especially those who have a history of making meaningful contributions to the forum, appears to go a long way in their eyes.

Post: #27

I'm a shithole enthusiast, I've lived in some of the most economically deprived areas of Eastern Europe, all I need is hot girls and low prices, I keep churning out the foreign currency on my laptop and everything is peachy

Post: #28

(07-26-2018 03:58 AM)Tintin Wrote:  I keep churning out the foreign currency on my laptop and everything is peachy

Hi man, I'm looking for one secret key ingredient for success to take all the hard-work out of being successful. By the way, I'm allergic to making a serious effort at anything that doesn't involve an immediate reward and I have no disciple or imagination.

I also have zero dollars and cents to invest into any effort and the only reason why I'm not currently homeless is because I live on the couch in my parent's basement.

So, can you mentor me?

Post: #29

If youre a hopeless idiot yes

Post: #30

(07-26-2018 01:43 AM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  Every time I post outside the travel section, I get called a silver troll or get a warning.

What is a silver troll?

Post: #31

(07-26-2018 04:44 AM)Suits Wrote:  [quote='Tintin' pid='1825264' dateline='1532595533']
I keep churning out the foreign currency on my laptop and everything is peachy

Hi man, I'm looking for one secret key ingredient for success to take all the hard-work out of being successful. By the way, I'm allergic to making a serious effort at anything that doesn't involve an immediate reward and I have no disciple or imagination.

I also have zero dollars and cents to invest into any effort and the only reason why I'm not currently homeless is because I live on the couch in my parent's basement.

So, can you mentor me?
Hehe

Post: #32

(07-26-2018 04:44 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(07-26-2018 03:58 AM)Tintin Wrote:  I keep churning out the foreign currency on my laptop and everything is peachy

Hi man, I'm looking for one secret key ingredient for success to take all the hard-work out of being successful. By the way, I'm allergic to making a serious effort at anything that doesn't involve an immediate reward and I have no disciple or imagination.

I also have zero dollars and cents to invest into any effort and the only reason why I'm not currently homeless is because I live on the couch in my parent's basement.

So, can you mentor me?

I can mentor you for a certain cost. Please tell you parents that you want some of your inheritance early, tell them you will be moving to Transdniester, where you will fritter away their money at a slower rate than you would do back home.

Post: #33

I've been back in America for about a year now.... as far as amenities go this place is top shelf. As far as the people here and what they value this place is a shithole.

Chose your shithole wisely

Post: #34

How people behave is shaped by the culture they live in. Girls are a product of their environment.

But you are too. The choice is: what environment do I want to be a product of?

As Suits mentions, Chinese girls are way more pleasant to deal with than Canadian girls. That’s a result of how they were raised and the expectations put on them. Wouldn’t it be better to live in a place that has more favorable expectations for men?

In South America you can chat up girls during the day without it being weird. You can do it too in Western Europe, but it’s uncommon and almost like you are breaking the social contract.

This is a small example to show that expectations of a culture matter a lot more than you might think.

And if you are from the US: it’s the very definition of a. 3rd world country. Crazy homeless eating out of trash cans, big divide between poor/rich and most people have little access to quality healthcare. And have you looked at the homicide rate recently?

Post: #35

I find myself stuck between the career/financial benefits of living in the US vs. the people/lifestyle downsides. I guess the best thing to do for the time being is to keep my COL low and stash cash so that if I am pushed to my limit I can leave it all behind and move to East Asia or SEA.

But I guess the question for you guys is how do you define your breaking point? When is it not worth putting up with US metropolitan living, traffic, shitty fat people, unattractive women, and reduced sexual prospects just for the sake of a low six figure salary?

I'm 33 and single. Want a family. My patience runs thinner and thinner every year.

Post: #36

(07-26-2018 10:50 AM)monsquid Wrote:  But I guess the question for you guys is how do you define your breaking point? When is it not worth putting up with US metropolitan living, traffic, shitty fat people, unattractive women, and reduced sexual prospects just for the sake of a low six figure salary?

I'm 33 and single. Want a family. My patience runs thinner and thinner every year.

When the rain washes you clean, you'll know
You'll know, you will know, you'll know

Post: #37

(07-26-2018 10:50 AM)monsquid Wrote:  But I guess the question for you guys is how do you define your breaking point? When is it not worth putting up with US metropolitan living, traffic, shitty fat people, unattractive women, and reduced sexual prospects just for the sake of a low six figure salary?

This is exactly why you'd want to develop a location-independent career or business. If you're capable of earning low six figures, you're smart enough to make location-independent income. That'd be the thing to work on. Doesn't have to be six figures.

Post: #38

Monsquid: this thread is exactly about that, moving do a “shithole” solely for the women. I do not advise this. Establishing yourself in a new country can be challenging and will take years.

If you do not desire the lifestyle of an “international playboy” and just want a cool girl to marry, you have to make an honest cost-benefit analysis:

- completely change your life, move abroad, learn a new language, build a completely new social circle, learn new cultural norms, learn a new career, spend all this time adapting to your new environment
- stay where you are but focus your free time and disposable income on finding a girl suitable for marriage

Do not sacrifice all your resources for th possibility of finding a wife in a foreign country, especially your most important resource (time).

There are great threads on here how to find a girl that is girlfriend material or ready for marriage, even in the US.

If there are 100K women in your city in the right age range you want and only 0.01% is suitable in your eyes, that’s still 1000 girls. You only have to get one of those and you are done.

If you can learn how to target that group, how to seduce such a girl and offer her what she Kong’s for in a husband, then the cost-benefit is way better than going abroad. You can even strike out 999 times and still be successful. I like those odds.

Post: #39

Women should be just part of your life, not all of it. There is family, career, etc.

But the US is becoming a bigger shithole every day. Liberties and freedoms are eroding. Kudos to those who made the jump.

It’s rare that you hear guys say I’m going back to the US this place is a shithole.

Everything in life iso a trade off. If you can become location independent then it becomes much easier to justify a move, because of the lower cost of living abroad

Post: #40

I read the title as “is it worthwhile for girls to move to shithole countries”

Post: #41

(07-26-2018 03:03 PM)Hypno Wrote:  But the US is becoming a bigger shithole every day. Liberties and freedoms are eroding. Kudos to those who made the jump.

It’s rare that you hear guys say I’m going back to the US this place is a shithole.

And a lot rarer to see American guys say "I am moving to another country" in the first place.

Post: #42

(07-26-2018 12:53 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

(07-25-2018 09:33 PM)travolta Wrote:  If you move somewhere ONLY for girls then you are a simp

You just insulted most of the forum

Well it is what it is. In the past I've travelled to places ONLY for girls, and in hindsight I was being a simp. IMO it's something people on this forum need to grow out of. If you base your life around women then it's going to be hard to be happy with your life.

Post: #43

(07-26-2018 05:59 PM)travolta Wrote:  If you base your life around women then it's going to be hard to be happy with your life.

Truth. Someone explained to me in this way: You are building a life and are auditioning women to play a role in it.

Post: #44

(07-26-2018 02:42 PM)asdfk Wrote:  If there are 100K women in your city in the right age range you want and only 0.01% is suitable in your eyes, that’s still 1000 girls. You only have to get one of those and you are done.

If you can learn how to target that group, how to seduce such a girl and offer her what she Kong’s for in a husband, then the cost-benefit is way better than going abroad. You can even strike out 999 times and still be successful. I like those odds.

Except that 0,01% of 100k women is only 10, not 1000 so in this example you have far less chances to find her. I get your idea though.

As mentioned by another poster, we are all influenced by the environment we live in, if you don’t like the attitude of women then most probably there are other things in the society that you don’t like as the girls are the product of that society. I think we as males have also some responsibility for the way women behave in the west nowadays.
It doesn’t mean we all on this forum are guilty but men have been modelling this modern world, we fucked up somewhere...

Post: #45

(07-26-2018 08:32 AM)Tintin Wrote:  

(07-26-2018 04:44 AM)Suits Wrote:  Hi man, I'm looking for one secret key ingredient for success to take all the hard-work out of being successful. By the way, I'm allergic to making a serious effort at anything that doesn't involve an immediate reward and I have no disciple or imagination.

I also have zero dollars and cents to invest into any effort and the only reason why I'm not currently homeless is because I live on the couch in my parent's basement.

So, can you mentor me?

I can mentor you for a certain cost. Please tell you parents that you want some of your inheritance early, tell them you will be moving to Transdniester, where you will fritter away their money at a slower rate than you would do back home.

Good news! I talked to my parents and they've agreed! Their only condition is that you guarantee them that they will never hear from me again.

Do you want to wire me the money for my airfare or should I just shoot you my particulars and let you handle the actual purchase of the tickets?

Post: #46

(07-26-2018 03:58 AM)Tintin Wrote:  I'm a shithole enthusiast,

Tintin, great that you are so knowledgeable about shit holes. Which would you say was the absolute EE shithole ever been to?

Post: #47

If you can make money online while you are there, it's not a bad decision. You also need to like the country you are moving to, if you are solely doing this for girls, you will probably end up leaving way too soon. Go to a country that you like the culture, figure out a way to earn money while you are there and have fun with the ladies. It's not a bad decision if you do it for few months or even years.

Post: #48

How do you define a shithole? For me it's the people - the people that inhabit a place make it amazing or shitty.

Nature, infrastructure, convenience, safety, all that is a distant second. If I don't like the people I'm living around, even the most safe, clean, modern and beautiful surroundings don't come close to compensating.

Is Ukraine a shithole? While it may be beautiful, it's infrastructure is crumbling, convenience is non-existent and you might die the next time you step on a sewer cover.
But I feel at home around the people here, I enjoy working and partying with my colleagues and of course the girls are top notch. These factors more then make up for bad infrastructure and inconvenient situations.

I hesitate writing this because I don't want to encourage the other 95% of men to leave their shithole comfort zones. Stay risk averse, stay home, stay thirsty and don't ask questions. Betas make the world go round

Post: #49

(07-27-2018 09:16 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  How do you define a shithole? For me it's the people - the people that inhabit a place make it amazing or shitty.

Nature, infrastructure, convenience, safety, all that is a distant second. If I don't like the people I'm living around, even the most safe, clean, modern and beautiful surroundings don't come close to compensating.

Is Ukraine a shithole? While it may be beautiful, it's infrastructure is crumbling, convenience is non-existent and you might die the next time you step on a sewer cover.
But I feel at home around the people here, I enjoy working and partying with my colleagues and of course the girls are top notch. These factors more then make up for bad infrastructure and inconvenient situations.

I hesitate writing this because I don't want to encourage the other 95% of men to leave their shithole comfort zones. Stay risk averse, stay home, stay thirsty and don't ask questions. Betas make the world go round

For me it's the opposite, the Ukrainian people don't give me much reason to return to their country(apart from the girls of course). I recently left to go to another country and it was so nice to see smiles, and people asking how I am etc. That said what I like about Ukrainians is that they are very calm and tolerant on the outside, they're generally not aggressive and mostly polite.

Ukraine is a low trust society, granted if you don't speak the language and don't have some connection to the country(like a job) then building social circles not the easiest.

Post: #50

(07-25-2018 10:18 PM)WhatTheFuck Wrote:  

(07-25-2018 09:11 PM)WombRaider Wrote:  

(07-25-2018 08:37 PM)WhatTheFuck Wrote:  Yeah I mean some days I wake up hungover as fuck, really thirsty, have to go to the stove and boil my fucking water instead of just drinking out of the tap like a normal person-- ends up being like a hot water tea, and yeah I wonder why the hell I decided to give everything up in the US and build a new life in some random shit hole country like this. Then I look over see that girl sleeping in my bed that is fucking crazy about me, check my phone and I got a bunch more messages too. Makes you realize it's not really about the location and the circumstances but about the people you have around you in your life

Why don't you just get some bottled water?

Bottled water is fine when backpacking and I've done it plenty of times before. But living somewhere longterm, if you drink a 2.5L bottle or more on average per day like me thats a shitload of water per week. It's not even that much about the money like $1 per bottle or so, but I live 15 minute walk from the grocery store, and no fucking way am I carrying 20L of water back to my apartment per week. Then you have to dispose of 365 or more bottles per year too it's just annoying. Rather do it like the locals.

What about going with a car (or taxi or Uber or whatever) and getting 40-60 liters at once...? Or paying someone a few bucks to do a bit of shopping for you?

Not hating on boiling tons of water - having a baby it's part of my daily routine - just throwing out some helpful ideas.

p.s. if you ran out of water and are in a rush, boiling a small pot of water and letting it sit in a sink of cold water for 5 minutes will also do the job. No need to drink it hot.

Quote:My analogy however was more just about learning to deal with the little third world inconveniences in pursuit of something bigger.