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(07-26-2018 06:53 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  He is a skilled imitator, is quick on his feet, and has a sharp sense of timing, all virtues in a comedian. But he completely lacks both charm and character. The personas he creates are thin, they have no depth and do not grow on you. There is no joy of recognition in seeing any of them over time and absolutely no feeling of comic warmth. What he has is a shtick with a certain nasty edge and that is what people respond to.

This describes most comedians. Only the best have humanity too. It is also down to taste.

You like Larry David and I find him to have zero humanity.

Some comedians you can laugh with all night and then feel bad inside for some reason, and other comedians, you accept the harshness of the laughs they elicit.

Baron Cohen is truly a troll, and there is admittedly something contrary and empty about trolls, living as they do in opposition to people with nothing of their own to declare.

Whether or not you accept them depends a lot on whether or not you think the targets deserve what they are getting.

I started souring on Baron Cohen during the Bruno years, but still think Ali G was first rate and innovative.

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When you think of it, how does Cohen get away with it? His Borat impression is no different than a comedian in the 1920s putting on a black face. The people of Kazakhstan didn't like it. Look at what happened to Roseanne Barr. She keeps on apologizing for some innocuous tweet and walks around like a zombie not knowing what train hit her. He's not a comic genius. His act just shows you what you can do when you have access to power. It's like calling the janitor who accidentally trips the launch of a nuclear missile a genius. When you have access to power, you can play with it. That's all.

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I'd appreciate it if he could truly go after his own & troll someone like Sarah Silverman.
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Go to 32:00 - you will see how he got all the former congressmen to "voice support" for this program. They were partly flown out under the guise of getting an award by some Israeli lobby. Then they were told that the kindergarten-gun program was already active in Israel. Finally they were put in front of a teleprompter.

Thus as I assumed - it was a deliberate manipulation especially using the Israeli lobby/power angle. Then they blatantly lied about the program - it was never an issue to be implemented in the US. The one active congressman clearly made fun of Cohen - of the entire idea of arming 4 year olds.

Yeah - I will see the day when he tries to dupe Sarah Silverman or the ADL.
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32:00 to the end of the video had nothing to do with the Israel lobby (not spending 40 minutes watching whole thing.)
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(07-31-2018 04:39 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  



Go to 32:00 - you will see how he got all the former congressmen to "voice support" for this program. They were partly flown out under the guise of getting an award by some Israeli lobby. Then they were told that the kindergarten-gun program was already active in Israel. Finally they were put in front of a teleprompter.

Thus as I assumed - it was a deliberate manipulation especially using the Israeli lobby/power angle. Then they blatantly lied about the program - it was never an issue to be implemented in the US. The one active congressman clearly made fun of Cohen - of the entire idea of arming 4 year olds.

Yeah - I will see the day when he tries to dupe Sarah Silverman or the ADL.

Of course you correctly assumed that it was a deliberate manipulation and the program was bogus and they were never going to arm 4 year olds. . . . that was kind of the whole point of the joke. You don't think anyone thought that the other aspects of the program coming from Cohen where real do you?

I watched the clip you posted at 32:00, this makes both the congressman and the person doing the video just look silly. He even talks about rather taking his chance with an armed and trained kid than be left with a dead kid anyway. . . .what?
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(((Cohen))). The guys as jewish as a dreidel.

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I also thought that Bruno was vile garbage, but Borat at least was pretty funny. The new show is absolutely hilarious. It's really no one's fault but the politicians interviewed that they're getting run through the gutter. Obviously doing shitty Asian impersonations and screaming the N word is going to make you look bad. The bit with Roy Moore was absolutely hilarious as well. I don't see it as "globohomo Jew conspiracy" material either (lol) -- Borat repeatedly trolled feminists, included an overweight black hooker, and made fun of various groups equally. He's not the best comedian in the world (Chapelle, Carlin, etc are way better), but he's still hilarious.

The posts decrying him as being "anti-white" are pathetic -- he's no different from any of the conservative commentators making libtards out to be jackasses.
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(08-01-2018 07:02 PM)Bastard Sword Wrote:  The posts decrying him as being "anti-white" are pathetic -- he's no different from any of the conservative commentators making libtards out to be jackasses.

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The problem is 1) He's not doing it in good faith and 2) It's pretty obvious it's the representation of Jewish disdain for (conservative)whites. Also makes you look at Borat in a new light.

Here he scurried away like a rat when a gunshop owner found him out:





He didn't have to run away/avoid talking, but it's obvious it's a targeted hitjob. Even Steven Crowder allowed a National Socialist to utterly destroy him in a debate.
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(07-31-2018 07:57 PM)Repo Wrote:  Of course you correctly assumed that it was a deliberate manipulation and the program was bogus and they were never going to arm 4 year olds. . . . that was kind of the whole point of the joke. You don't think anyone thought that the other aspects of the program coming from Cohen where real do you?

I watched the clip you posted at 32:00, this makes both the congressman and the person doing the video just look silly. He even talks about rather taking his chance with an armed and trained kid than be left with a dead kid anyway. . . .what?

Yeah - you go ahead as a Mongolian colonel and try to convince politicians to fly over to your place so that they can get a Mongolian award. Then you tell them that they have this great program in Mongolia of arming 4 year old children.

Right.... even the moronic paid-for politicians would not balk for that unless someones slipped them 500.000$ for that stunt. Some countries can just beckon with their name and the idiots forget everything.

And don't get me wrong - I loathe those idiot politicians on both sides. There are few sane men there and even they are compromised to some degree.

Still - Cohen has a clear bias and an agenda. He attempts to destroy gun shop owners - bad for him that this one was sharper, but I am sure that he might manage with other people, so that their business or career get wiped out on camera.
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(08-01-2018 07:02 PM)Bastard Sword Wrote:  I'll fuck your girl tell she calls me the big brown booty daddy. Your a pussy get over it. Come to Toronto I'll slap you and make you my bitch. I'm 5 foot 11 Punjabi muscular 200+ pounds with a muscular physique, I eat steak all the time, and with a genetic predisposition for bodybuilding. I know that from my DNA test fuck boy. I grew up around real drug dealers, thugs and gangstas. How about you pussy? I'm having fun because I enjoy making you my bitch. I'm Superior to you Becuase I'm a genetic freak while your predispisiton is genetic trash. You weak muthafucka!Lmao HAHAHahahahahahahhaja I'm laughing at you homie why you mad.

Huh? What the hell is that?

Your "test fuck" boy? You eat steak, but your Indian?

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(07-27-2018 01:29 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  You like Larry David and I find him to have zero humanity.

One of the problems with a Larry David is people laughing with him as opposed to at him. This is of great weight. It shows how the Weltanschauung of America has taken a downward spiral. The great man should want nothing to do with the consciousness of a schlemiel.

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(08-02-2018 04:42 AM)Kona Wrote:  
(08-01-2018 07:02 PM)Bastard Sword Wrote:  I'll fuck your girl tell she calls me the big brown booty daddy. Your a pussy get over it. Come to Toronto I'll slap you and make you my bitch. I'm 5 foot 11 Punjabi muscular 200+ pounds with a muscular physique, I eat steak all the time, and with a genetic predisposition for bodybuilding. I know that from my DNA test fuck boy. I grew up around real drug dealers, thugs and gangstas. How about you pussy? I'm having fun because I enjoy making you my bitch. I'm Superior to you Becuase I'm a genetic freak while your predispisiton is genetic trash. You weak muthafucka!Lmao HAHAHahahahahahahhaja I'm laughing at you homie why you mad.

Huh? What the hell is that?

Your "test fuck" boy? You eat steak, but your Indian?

Aloha!

It's a quote from a meltdown on the Indian guy thread. For your reading pleasure -- /thread-67662-page-21.html

I actually got a Showtime free trial and watched full episodes of the show. There are certain parts that are genuinely funny -- like the Roy Moore interview and Erran Morrad's shtick. There are also parts that are utterly cringeworthy and impossible to watch. He plays a white liberal cuck character whose wife has a sexual affair with a dolphin -- the character is funny but that particular bit was unwatchable.

The guy has his good moments, I thought Borat was funny too. I definitely don't think he's picking on conservatives either, as the liberal white guy he plays is one of the most pathetic characters I've seen on television.

All in all there are bits that are quality entertainment and then some that are absolute trash.
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Episode 2 was hilarious. Best parts were Jason Spencer and the Arizonites.

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^Yes, the whole mosque in Kingman was hilarious.

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Mercenary, the guy was made to resign and is now a laughingstock. He was a politician in front of a film crew -- should know better than to pull down his pants and run around trying to touch a muslim shooter with his bare ass. How dumb can you be? This was pure genius from Cohen.

Elsewhere he gets GoP Congressman to endorse guns for 3 year olds.

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(07-25-2018 09:58 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  
(07-25-2018 03:17 PM)kaotic Wrote:  FYI Jason Spencer just resigned.
He only had 5 months left to serve, but still it is fucked up. No one on either side has a fucking sense of humor anymore......




My theory:
The skit between this guy & Cohen was 100% scripted and fully prepared.
Why ?
I'm guessing he needed the money very badly.
Cause he's probably gonna be in A LOT of trouble soon....but not because of this skit.


You can watch it here...it's totally scripted.



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Episode 4 was gold. I especially enjoyed his ex-convict character trolling an entire Miami nightclub.

Cohen is a genius. One of my all-time favorites is the commencement speech he gave at Harvard. Love seeing old the old ladies in the crowd laughing at the dirty jokes.



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As much as I dislike his obvious political views - the show is hilarious.

The Dick Cheney part was fantastic.

That reality TV star shooting a commercial to fund African child soldiers is genius.

Cohen belongs into the top 5 comedic talents in the world - bit sad that he weaponizes it for his political ideas.

Still - he is what most leftie SJW progressive comedians would love to be, but are universes apart.

The show itself is comedy gold despite his shortcomings.

And generally I have little compassion for his victims - except the poor or middle-class people he occasionally destroys. The politicians, businessmen and celebrities should know better and I have little empathy for them.
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I think the reason non-Lefties have an issue with lefty humor is because Lefties think we're evil (as I've said, they think we're evil, we just think they're dumb).

There's a reason Rush has been saying for years, they see us as racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, Southern hayseed hicks. This is now more true than ever.

If someone sees me as evil, whether it's when I'm talking to a woman or watching CNN, there's now an abrasive border between us, and I probably won't appreciate your humor. I may not retaliate (hence, "how in the world did Trump win?!?!?"), but I'll stop laughing at your jokes.

The fun, good-natured smile and laugh transforms ever so subtly into insane lunacy. Even if you don't mean it, if you and your side think me or my side is evil, I will trust none of your humor. I don't want to see you as a threat, but the way you've been talking about me you untrustworthy.

You're a murderer and responsible for the death of a bunch of people. Joke about gun-toters.
You're a racist and responsible for slavery. Joke about you being racist.
You (and your president) hate gays and trannies. Joke about homophobes.

Don't expect those jokes to go over well.

At least when Eric Church blames the NRA (me) for the Las Vegas shootings, he's not following it up by making jokes about the NRA being responsible for the Las Vegas shootings with hopes I'll laugh. That would just sound like an insane person.

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In this clip, he buys a boat for Assad and human trafficking:



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(08-16-2018 07:51 PM)Repo Wrote:  In this clip, he buys a boat for Assad and human trafficking:




This one was funny, though in this case the salesman looked through it early on and let him talk about Assad wanting to buy a weaponized girls-smuggling anti-migrant defense ship.

But I spoke too soon regarding even the barest balance.

Episode 5 was all liberal SJW - did not laugh even once. It was snarky twists and CNN talking points.

He even interviewed Sheriff Clarke which sounded like him interviewing a character Charles Bronson played where Cohen tried to cuck for Antifa claiming that they are just peaceful anti-fascists. He alluded to Germany 1930s and that they were necessary anti-fascists there.

Listen fuck-face - Antifa then and Antifa now are communists. The Bolsheviks then had just murdered millions in Russia and had attempted to conquer Europe only being stopped by the Poles. One of the reason for the rise of the fascists were the fucking communists like Antifa who wanted even then to wipe out democracy and create their Bolshevik utopia even in Germany! So don't give that shit about necessity of taking sides!

The other contributions were similarly unfunny as he tried to cram in every CNN talking point into his show.

Get woke - go broke. Even genius level comedians cannot make SJW-propaganda funny.
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This came up in my recommended. I believe I watched it before years ago, but still.



Credit where credit is due, I laughed uncontrollably during this.
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I liked his older characters (Bruno, Ali G, Dictator, Borat) better than the 6 characters on 'Who is America?'.

Its a pity Borat became so famous about 10 years ago and he couldn't troll anymore with that character.

SBC is almost 50 years old...wow
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