Post: #76

(07-24-2018 03:43 PM)Mage Wrote:  ^ nobody becomes a murderer because he ate too much burgers instead of oatmeal.

On topic of whether people go crazy primarily due to chemical, genetic or social reasons:

Even if we assume that people go crazy due to genetic and chemical malfunctions - the expression - of that craziness is going to be socially formed.

There was a time when going crazy was associated with people declaring that they are Napoleon. Now it is about these people committing mass shootings. The expression of the instability is social.

I personally believe that also the cause is more often social and comes from nurturing then it is chemical and coming from nature. There is a lot of stuff that is known only in narrow circles of neuroscientists and people interested in this topic about how brain forms in womb, how mothers moods affect it, how children develop differently based on how often they are picked up, talked to and how much they are loved. The mainstream ignores all this information because to them an unborn person is a fetus and abortion is the sacrament of modern globo-satanism. Even those children that are not aborted are brought up in a damaging way in a godless society. Even the common "normal" adult is actually a dysfunctional and wounded individual if we apply serious standards.

Oatmeal is in fact part of the problem. There is little that can not be explained by genetic and dietary elements. But as I said, genetics is not really the issue. It`s an "unnatural diet" that meets different genetics (since we have different ancestral lineage) and hence causes different pathologies. There are many autoimmune components to "mental" disorders for example. (GAD-67 autoantibodies leading to excessive glutamate etc.)

But animals in the wild don`t get autoimmune diseases! The only reason that the human animal does is due to dietary caused gut permeability>proteins like casein and gliadin entering the inside of the body>autoantibodies formed to our own proteins with similar molecular form. (cross-reactivity) Hence diabetes type 1, MS, dermal sclerosis and so on. So if you alter the diet, you will not get the disease, even though you have the genes for it. Also fasting can help in resetting the immune system. I could go on about this for ages but I`ll leave it there for now. (Someone mentioned MRI, but those results are a very downstream effects of the issues that caused the problem. You`re looking at the symptom not the cause. You see neurotoxicity and lesions in the brain in long term Schizophrenics for example.)

I do share your sentiments about motherhood, breastfeeding, nuclear family, and how the breakdown of those things can harm children. Even crappy food is related to mother`s pursuing career etc. But should we embrace psychology as a science because of that? Have you met any of these people? I have in my work (biology) come across them many times, and I can tell you that you will never find more violent (State proxy violence) rabid Feminist, anti-male, full on Marxist, and also many outright sadistic individuals as you do among this group of "professionals" Most of them are women, almost all of them are liberals and State dependant.

Also look at most of the guys from Columbine on. With a few exceptions they where from good families. Most of these guys where middle-class kids. Same with Minassian, stable home etc. But in a sense I can agree with you. Since I would claim that to an extent, the poorer diets and the drugging of boys etc. are all downstream effects of Marxist-Feminist policies. But psychology is a subcategory of those said ideologies. It is not a science. How could it be...there is no psychological in biology. Either it`s somatic or gonadal. Neurological maybe, but it`s still somatic cells. I don`t mind religion, but keep religion and science apart. Psychology is a religion. Even Jordan Peterson (who a do like) is a very religious thinker. He is not a scientist. Sorry for long post!

Post: #77

False Flag

Post: #78

Ezra Levant is catching a lot of flak for asking relevant questions:

Also, a little light on where that official statement came from:

Quote:The man who has presented himself as the point of contact for the family of Faisal Hussain is a professional activist who has reportedly committed himself to “framing a new narrative of Muslims in Canada” and creating a “national political movement.”

Post: #79

Unsurprisingly, you'll probably never see this posted on the CBC:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/faisal-huss...018-07-24/

Quote:TORONTO -- Canadian investigators were digging Tuesday into the life of the 29-year-old man who opened fire on restaurants and cafes in a popular Toronto neighborhood, seeking to explain what prompted the rampage that killed a 10-year-old girl and a young woman and wounded 13 others.

"At this stage, based on the state of the investigation, which is led by the Toronto police service, there is no connection between that individual and national security," Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said.

But a law enforcement source told CBS News that Faisal Hussain visited Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) websites and may have expressed support for the terrorist group. They were looking into whether Hussain may have lived at one time in Afghanistan and possibly Pakistan, the source said. There is no indication that Hussain was directed by ISIS to carry out the attack.

The assailant's family has said he suffered from psychosis and depression for years but they never imagined he would do such a thing. It was not immediately clear whether he took his own life or was killed by police during the attack Sunday night.

The mass shooting in Toronto's Greektown neighborhood stunned people in a normally safe city, already unsettled by an attack just three months ago when a man used a van to plow over pedestrians on a downtown sidewalk, killing 10 people and injuring 14 in an attack apparently aimed at women.

A statement from Hussain's relatives said he had lifelong "severe mental health challenges." They said medications did not help him and the interventions of professionals were unsuccessful.

"While we did our best to seek help for him throughout his life of struggle and pain, we could never imagine that this would be his devastating and destructive end," the family said. "Our hearts are in pieces for the victims and for our city as we all come to grips with this terrible tragedy. We will mourn those who were lost for the rest of our lives."

Post: #80

Johnnyvee: "Oatmeal is in fact part of the problem. There is little that can not be explained by genetic and dietary elements."

Over on the thread titled "Cholesterol," I explained that oatmeal has been found to lower cholesterol and that cholesterol levels have a major genetic component.

High cholesterol runs on the maternal side of my family. My mother has eaten it virtually every morning for decades, as have several of her siblings and cousins. So I have two questions:

1). When does everyone think my frail, 75-year-old mother will go on a mass shooting spree because of...Quaker Oats?

2). When will the moderators discover that Johnnyvee is a (female) troll, considering the ridiculous amount of disinformation he's shared on this thread?

And now I present to you all, a man who has inspired more murder and carnage than Adolf Hitler hisself:

Post: #81

(07-23-2018 03:04 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:  In Melbourne a 19yo raped and murdered a 22yo comedian in a park on her way back from a gig, leading to calls for a curfew on men. Guy was an incel

The Godfather of Incels was Elliot Rodgers

Incels are the white version of Muslim Allahu Akbars

Girls are far more scared of Incels than normal convicted high masculine felons

Eliot Rogers wasn't white.

Post: #82

(07-24-2018 05:00 PM)asdfk Wrote:  I'm shocked by some of the opinions here on mental health issues.

Quote:On topic of whether people go crazy primarily due to chemical, genetic or social reasons

Troubling life events can do someone in, like the death of a family member. But it can also be prolonged stress.

If you think psychiatric patients are worthless and deserve no sympathy, know that the odds are high some of the very people in this thread will face a psychiatric crisis at some point in their lives. You do not have as much control over your own mind as you might think.

Try to limit your stress levels and hope, hope, that you are lucky. The numbers of people who at some point have an episode like this are shocking.

You are right, but it is not the whole picture. There are tools to avoid going crazy beyond luck and reducing stress. These tools are faith, prayer, meditation, leading a moral life and believing in objective moral principles. When atheists abandon all these as supposed mere superstitions, they become unprotected against unpredictable events and can easily go crazy like you described. A person with strong beliefs and discipline, especially if those beliefs touch and explain uncomfortable subjects like meaning of death and suffering is much more protected from that suffering and random life events causing mental instability. Of course I am not talking about religions like Islam or some cults that seek to exploit persons instability instead of protecting a person from it. I am talking about proper faith systems like Christianity, Buddhism, Yoga and Paganism.

Post: #83

Quote:Toronto shooter “known to police,” had expressed “support” for pro-ISIS website

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/07/toron...al-illness

It's Islam once again.

Quote:Files being reviewed by police include concern Hussain expressed “support” for a website that was seen as “pro-ISIL,” says a law enforcement source.

Sources say police in Toronto and CSIS officials in Ottawa, as well as the RCMP, are looking into his past, which sources say include his residence in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Hussain apparently had been spoken to by authorities about his online activities. Sources say Toronto Police, the OPP and the RCMP have all had an interest in the now-deceased shooter.

What law enforcement is saying is that the attack was planned, and Hussain was “well known to Toronto Police” for investigations into past crimes “involving weapons and violence.”…

A neighbour living near the apartment where Hussain lived with his parents said Faisal told him he previously worked in a bakery and as a grocer. While some friends said he was “not at all radical,” others said he was more interested in Islamic discussions “when there were more people around.”…

Yeah - most guys who know jack-shit about Islam cannot spot a devout Muslim.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/07/toron...al-illness

Mental illness my ass.

Quote:Toronto jihad murderer’s neighbors unaware of his “mental illness”

Of course - Islam is a mental illness.

Quiet neighbor my ass - and the media publishing his demure smiling Muslim pictures is the usual shtick of "we don't know what happened."

Post: #84

This is not a case of an incel (which Toronto has many - I live here) but is islamic terror. They are painting it as "mental illness" though. Most idiot Canadians will buy it.

Post: #85

(07-24-2018 08:52 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Johnnyvee: "Oatmeal is in fact part of the problem. There is little that can not be explained by genetic and dietary elements."

Over on the thread titled "Cholesterol," I explained that oatmeal has been found to lower cholesterol and that cholesterol levels have a major genetic component.

High cholesterol runs on the maternal side of my family. My mother has eaten it virtually every morning for decades, as have several of her siblings and cousins. So I have two questions:

1). When does everyone think my frail, 75-year-old mother will go on a mass shooting spree because of...Quaker Oats?

2). When will the moderators discover that Johnnyvee is a (female) troll, considering the ridiculous amount of disinformation he's shared on this thread?

And now I present to you all, a man who has inspired more murder and carnage than Adolf Hitler hisself:

Low total cholesterol is not necessarily good. You want higher cholesterol, with the right ratios. Saturated fat (and a paleo type diet) in fact elevates HDL. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC288145/
HDL is also inversely correlated with the hepatic lipase enzyme that;
.
...One of the principal functions of hepatic lipase is to convert intermediate-density lipoprotein (IDL) to low-density lipoprotein (LDL). Hepatic lipase thus plays an important role in triglyceride level regulation in the blood by maintaining steady levels of IDL, HDL and LDL....

Source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatic_lipase

A carb (grain, sugars) based diet also promotes glycation, inflammation-fibrosis and accelerated ageing in general. All contributing towards the stiffening of arteries, which in turn will tend to trap more of the now glycated small dense lipoprotein. That`s why obesity, diabetes, insulin resistance are all correlated with CVD. They stem from the same problem. So does most of modern health issues.

A high carb diet is associated with lower total cholesterol,(CH) which is bad, since CH has many important functions in the body. It`s also part of the immune system. You`re going totally ape with the ad hominem`s and non-sequitur`s in your post. I never said that oatmeal in and of itself causes all these issues. Nor is there a direct causation between oatmeal and mass shootings. But a diet (that includes oatmeal) of mainly grains, sugars, seed oils, low fat dairy, HFCS etc. in other words the standard American diet, will lead to the issues stated in above post. (With the SSRI`s also as an element.)

Don`t accuse me of being a quack without any data backing it up pls. I am in fact a biologist, and I know what I`m talking about. Of course everyone can be wrong, and I`m able to change my mind on all issues. But only if someone shows me the data and has a sound theory. PS: Maybe your mom would be less frail if she didn`t eat oatmeal every day.

Post: #86

Police sat on that similarly how the cops sit on unwelcome news in Europe (recently a Muslim who beheaded a baby before killing her mother - he wanted to see her baby die before her as punishment).

Quote:Julianna Kozis: Police finally identify 10 year-old girl MURDERED in Toronto Islamic terror rampage

Not only did they wait long before releasing the details of the perp, so that guys could call for an incel genocide, but also did they wait for time to pass before releasing this tidbit. Initial reports were 2 dead including the shooter.

Incels are - despite having some highly publicized cases - hardly responsible for much mayhem. 10%+ of the population are classified as male asexuals. If all of them did a rampage, then you would have shootings daily. And if we went really into blaming certain demographics and various other groups within society for shootings, then pre-emptive genocide of the most violent have to start elsewhere under that logic.

Islam is a different beast, though terrorism is just the cherry on top. You can look to Europe and see 50%+ of French prison population staffed with Muslims - in addition there are grey number of crimes like FGMs, honor killings, incest, child abuse (greater shame to report it then to let the uncle rape little Aisha), gang rape, overly brutal criminal gangs with no code (recently in London a 3yo kid was targeted for an acid attack like in some gang warfare) etc.

https://gellerreport.com/2018/07/julia-k...m=twitter]

And I would not advocate for any genocide, killing innocents for the crimes of some is never a good formula for civilization. The Chinese treatment of the religion of peace would be a good start aside from a total immigration ban except for Ex-Muslims:

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/06/yao-j...s-religion

Post: #87

(07-25-2018 09:24 AM)dean1233 Wrote:  This is not a case of an incel (which Toronto has many - I live here) but is islamic terror. They are painting it as "mental illness" though. Most idiot Canadians will buy it.

Reminds me of the Fort Hood shooter. He was Muslim, hated America, but was obviously mentally ill. Most Americans, at least in Texas, didn't care much for his mental illness and figured him to be a sleeper Islamist. I bet plenty elsewhere think he was just insane or PTSD.

The only way to know how others think is to eventually see the voting change like we did. You guys have Ford now, let's see what else Canada can do in the future.

Post: #88

If any of you Toronto based dudes want to GTFO of the city this weekend, I'm going up to the Bruce peninsula (3.5 hours away) tomorrow for a few days of diving, fishing, hiking and dope smoking if anyone wants to join me. Looking at hotels now, could use someone to share costs and book an Airbnb, which I can't do because those fuckers banned me. PM me for details.

Post: #89

Post: #90

(07-24-2018 08:52 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Johnnyvee: "Oatmeal is in fact part of the problem. There is little that can not be explained by genetic and dietary elements."

Over on the thread titled "Cholesterol," I explained that oatmeal has been found to lower cholesterol and that cholesterol levels have a major genetic component.

High cholesterol runs on the maternal side of my family. My mother has eaten it virtually every morning for decades, as have several of her siblings and cousins. So I have two questions:

1). When does everyone think my frail, 75-year-old mother will go on a mass shooting spree because of...Quaker Oats?

2). When will the moderators discover that Johnnyvee is a (female) troll, considering the ridiculous amount of disinformation he's shared on this thread?

And now I present to you all, a man who has inspired more murder and carnage than Adolf Hitler hisself:

Post: #91

(07-25-2018 10:02 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

I think that during the drag bits he's trying to look like:



As much as I love PJW (yes, I know he's gay & only purple pilled), he really does not pull it off. Even if he got the hair color and clothes right, he completely fails at fish mouth.

Post: #92

The story is unfolding very differently then where MSM and globalists want it.

>> Gun is illegally obtained, so no need to bring a gun ban in.
Every news outlet including wimpy Toronto AM radio are talking about banning handguns in Toronto. The hand gun was illegal. Screening for firearms licenses is fairly thorough and Canada, and most nutties wont jump through the hoops, even if they could. Mayor John Tory wants to ban guns and got the lefty city council to ask Trudeau to make Toronto gun free... or more accurately, take away the already limited freedom to have firearms from the legal owners.

>> Guy is a muslim, who went on ISIS Websites. He was on a watch list of I believe 3 separate law enforcement groups - local cops, rcmp. The first thing that happens is that a muslim lawyer drafts a letter for the family not even 3 hours after the shooting, saying he had mental illness. Fair enough, Both can be true, but they don't want to admit or even discuss there is an Islamic connection. It hurts the credibility of the media that they will not even discuss what is so obvious. Maybe they are worried about the islamophobia law.


>>

Post: #93

(07-25-2018 03:58 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(07-25-2018 09:24 AM)dean1233 Wrote:  This is not a case of an incel (which Toronto has many - I live here) but is islamic terror. They are painting it as "mental illness" though. Most idiot Canadians will buy it.

Reminds me of the Fort Hood shooter. He was Muslim, hated America, but was obviously mentally ill. Most Americans, at least in Texas, didn't care much for his mental illness and figured him to be a sleeper Islamist. I bet plenty elsewhere think he was just insane or PTSD.

The only way to know how others think is to eventually see the voting change like we did. You guys have Ford now, let's see what else Canada can do in the future.

Ford's a fucking premier. That's it.

You clearly don't know much about what goes on in Canada as it's been clear for a while that CANADIANS are prepared to give their country away to a 3rd-world scourge by voting in faggot trudeau, and clearly retaining said faggot for another 4-year term beginning in 2019.

Post: #94

(07-25-2018 02:46 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Police sat on that similarly how the cops sit on unwelcome news in Europe (recently a Muslim who beheaded a baby before killing her mother - he wanted to see her baby die before her as punishment).

Quote:Julianna Kozis: Police finally identify 10 year-old girl MURDERED in Toronto Islamic terror rampage

Not only did they wait long before releasing the details of the perp, so that guys could call for an incel genocide, but also did they wait for time to pass before releasing this tidbit. Initial reports were 2 dead including the shooter.

Incels are - despite having some highly publicized cases - hardly responsible for much mayhem. 10%+ of the population are classified as male asexuals. If all of them did a rampage, then you would have shootings daily. And if we went really into blaming certain demographics and various other groups within society for shootings, then pre-emptive genocide of the most violent have to start elsewhere under that logic.

Islam is a different beast, though terrorism is just the cherry on top. You can look to Europe and see 50%+ of French prison population staffed with Muslims - in addition there are grey number of crimes like FGMs, honor killings, incest, child abuse (greater shame to report it then to let the uncle rape little Aisha), gang rape, overly brutal criminal gangs with no code (recently in London a 3yo kid was targeted for an acid attack like in some gang warfare) etc.

https://gellerreport.com/2018/07/julia-k...m=twitter]

And I would not advocate for any genocide, killing innocents for the crimes of some is never a good formula for civilization. The Chinese treatment of the religion of peace would be a good start aside from a total immigration ban except for Ex-Muslims:

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/06/yao-j...s-religion

It makes complete sense that hardline Islam in the West & incel behavior could go hand in hand. He might've gone nuts while holding out for his 72 virgins.... SMH.

Post: #95

< It does - many Jihadis and suicide bombers are actually motivated by this. Recently they caught a failed suicide bomber and he admitted that he was motivated by the 72 virgins.

Still - that is hardly "mental illness". IntrovertedSmiles - an Ex-Muslim former incel - also said on his channel that many introverted highly believing Muslims become even worse with women. They stop looking at women, stop touching them. They honestly start observing Islamic rules even more which makes them even greater outcasts.

However - Islamic leaders know this and gladly use those suicide Jihadis for those tasks. The extroverted pussy-magnet Jihadi is not overly motivated to snuff out his life for Allah. It's usually the guy out there who thinks that he does not have much to lose, but more to gain by dying. And what a great lion he was killing one woman and one child (correction - 10yo is a woman able to be wed legally). He only fired 20 bullets and was then taken down.

The speed he was taken down that fast makes me think that he may have been even followed by an agent already - but that would be even worse. This is not new - during the attack on a Mohammed cartoon contest the Jihadi attempted to kill Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. FBI data showed that an agent followed the perp right to the event, but then quickly left. So the agencies are not beyond letting those psychos run around.

So no - it's nothing particularly special if the guy has troubles with women and life - that is Islamic bread and butter for 1400 years.

Post: #96

I'm glad that the ISIS/ISIL connection has quickly emerged. I wrote earlier that this looked primarily like a case of mental illness, as I have a strong policy on not jumping to conclusions, but obviously it comes at no surprise that yet another child of moderate Muslims became angry at the hand he was dealt in life and found answers in the more radical readings of the Koran.

I struggle with this issue, because I'm very pro-freedom of religion. However, if you've read the Koran and studied the history of the religion, it's clear that it isn't a religion that adequately tolerates other religions.

I'm not sure what the solution is, but I don't think that allowing for an expansion of Islam into tolerant countries is going to end well.

Post: #97

(07-25-2018 10:02 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

The Muslim brotherhood journalist who came up with the "mental problems" angle would write something completely different if Canada would be 45%+ Muslim. Then the same bloke would be writing: "This is a justified response to the anti-Islamic behavior of infidels. Alcohol drinking should be banned in public anyway. The women also were not properly covered up - only sluts and whores go out in the evening to a place where alcohol is served. The parents are responsible for the 10 year old girl being hurt. And we really have to start the issue of the Jizya - it is due time for unbelieving non-Muslims to pay a protection tax. The Non-Muslims have to learn to adhere to our rules as our great Canadian leader Mustafa Ibn Justin Al Canada tells us: Islam means Submission not peace! So submit you dirty pig-eaters!"

Post: #98

(07-26-2018 03:00 AM)Suits Wrote:  I'm glad that the ISIS/ISIL connection has quickly emerged. I wrote earlier that this looked primarily like a case of mental illness, as I have a strong policy on not jumping to conclusions, but obviously it comes at no surprise that yet another child of moderate Muslims became angry at the hand he was dealt in life and found answers in the more radical readings of the Koran.

I struggle with this issue, because I'm very pro-freedom of religion. However, if you've read the Koran and studied the history of the religion, it's clear that it isn't a religion that adequately tolerates other religions.

I'm not sure what the solution is, but I don't think that allowing for an expansion of Islam into tolerant countries is going to end well.

People need to realize that ISLAM is a POLITICAL DOCTRINE. It is NOT A RELIGION.

And, it's not going to end well for those complaining about it.

Post: #99

(07-23-2018 11:41 AM)kosko Wrote:  2 posts in and its already a race thread...

I'll just leave this here...

http://barenakedislam.com/2013/08/16/mus...never-see/

EDIT: This, too:

Post: #100

(07-26-2018 11:32 AM)Thot Leader Wrote:  

(07-23-2018 11:41 AM)kosko Wrote:  2 posts in and its already a race thread...

I'll just leave this here...

http://barenakedislam.com/2013/08/16/mus...never-see/

EDIT: This, too:

Racism now is everything you don't like. Fascism has the same definition now.

It's fast becoming a meaningless word.

I am sure that her "taking back the community" and writing with pencils on the wall will change things. Also priceless how the likely first-gen African immigrant speaks of "our community".

Ah well - dhimmi Justin loves it that way, so it's fine.