Post: #151

Russian humour is very different. The standup shows that are on TV constantly are very loud, very physical in nature and a lot of musical type stuff worked in, almost "childish" in nature. Basically they love the slapstick style more than dark or clever humour.

The women love to have fun, karaoke is huge here (not my choice of fun at all but the Russian's love it), dancing and the like is very popular.

Sure some of them are serious but most of them are really good fun to be around, in my experience. Interestingly I find them a lot more reserved when they're overseas than in Russia, especially if you're trying to talk English to them which will get a lot of them off guard.

The other factor is that they take age a lot more seriously as women, it's not like western society where women have had it drilled into them that they can be what they want and still have kids in their 30s, most Russian women think that they're old and used goods at 25 because they should already have kids (Moscow/Peter this age probably goes up a few years as more westernised/less traditional places) so most women around that age are seeking a husband more than you would experience in western countries. This is a positive trait to me but I could see it changing perspectives for those who don't understand it, on this front they will push relationships more aggressively.

Post: #152

If i go to Russia how long would i need to spend to find a few matches who are DTF ? I dont like to go on many dates, usually just 2 dates for me after that i usually next the girl... the russian girls overseas are DTF.how about in Russia itself? English levels i imagine outside Moscow and St petersburg are very low

Post: #153

(10-31-2018 04:20 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  If i go to Russia how long would i need to spend to find a few matches who are DTF ? I dont like to go on many dates, usually just 2 dates for me after that i usually next the girl... the russian girls overseas are DTF.how about in Russia itself? English levels i imagine outside Moscow and St petersburg are very low

If you want to find quick sex in two dates or less do not bother going to Russia. This is the land of the slow long game. Yes the women are incredibly beautiful and interesting, and educated. But they are also like we have been talking about on this thread more accustomed to waiting a very long time. They will wear down a man with their princess games and cool demeanor. If you are planning on doing two dates and nexting. Then plan on a lot of nexting.

Some of them will sleep with you quickly but as usual between men and women, there is some kind of value exchange.

Post: #154

(10-31-2018 05:25 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  

(10-31-2018 04:20 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  If i go to Russia how long would i need to spend to find a few matches who are DTF ? I dont like to go on many dates, usually just 2 dates for me after that i usually next the girl... the russian girls overseas are DTF.how about in Russia itself? English levels i imagine outside Moscow and St petersburg are very low

If you want to find quick sex in two dates or less do not bother going to Russia. This is the land of the slow long game. Yes the women are incredibly beautiful and interesting, and educated. But they are also like we have been talking about on this thread more accustomed to waiting a very long time. They will wear down a man with their princess games and cool demeanor. If you are planning on doing two dates and nexting. Then plan on a lot of nexting.

Some of them will sleep with you quickly but as usual between men and women, there is some kind of value exchange.

So basically it sounds like if i try to escalte too early it won't work? are you saying they will resist early kissing and kino? weird

Post: #155

(10-31-2018 04:20 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  If i go to Russia how long would i need to spend to find a few matches who are DTF ? I dont like to go on many dates, usually just 2 dates for me after that i usually next the girl... the russian girls overseas are DTF.how about in Russia itself? English levels i imagine outside Moscow and St petersburg are very low

Team Alpha Male??

Post: #156

(10-31-2018 05:25 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  

(10-31-2018 04:20 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  If i go to Russia how long would i need to spend to find a few matches who are DTF ? I dont like to go on many dates, usually just 2 dates for me after that i usually next the girl... the russian girls overseas are DTF.how about in Russia itself? English levels i imagine outside Moscow and St petersburg are very low

If you want to find quick sex in two dates or less do not bother going to Russia. This is the land of the slow long game. Yes the women are incredibly beautiful and interesting, and educated. But they are also like we have been talking about on this thread more accustomed to waiting a very long time. They will wear down a man with their princess games and cool demeanor. If you are planning on doing two dates and nexting. Then plan on a lot of nexting.

Some of them will sleep with you quickly but as usual between men and women, there is some kind of value exchange.

I don't think this is really accurate. Many members seem to adhere to same ideas but usually they will not have many ONS/first date lays in the west anyway.

You'll find a wide range of women in the FSU and IMO the spectrum is more similar to the west than people think (except in the Caucasus/some of the central asian countries where Islam is strictly observed). Women remain women.

If you're a hot guy, many girls in Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, will sleep with you as quickly as they do in Canada and the USA. Through Tinder, a nightclub or else, it doesn't matter. I find the younger generation to be pretty liberated and open.

If you were 30 year old tall and muscular Carlos from Latin America who can dance the salsa, your perceptions would probably be different.

Post: #157

When people talk about the three date rule in EE, it doesn't mean one night stands and same date lays don't happen.

When people talk about gold diggers in EE, it doesn't mean there aren't any sweethearts out there.

However, it's accepted wisdom that EE women are materialistic and strategic, playing the long game instead of fucking around. Ignore that wisdom at your peril.

To suggest that EE women are women who ride the carousel to the same extent as in the USA and Canada is straight-up trolling.

Post: #158

(10-31-2018 05:50 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  So basically it sounds like if i try to escalte too early it won't work? are you saying they will resist early kissing and kino? weird

Yes Zamfir, Russian/FSU girls will resist early escalation. I can't count the number of times I got the cheek when trying for a kiss. It doesn't mean they don't like you, and as long as they don't stand up and leave, you are expected to try again at regular intervals, but indeed if you are an early escalator then you should expect a lot of resistance. Many (if not most) girls will not even kiss on the first date.
Now, that doesn't mean you should not try to give them kino and kiss. As long as they're still there and haven't left, it means they like you, and they will never normally give you a green light, so you just have to try their limits regularly and at some point they'll give in. So in that sense it is good to keep pushing them. But don't expect them to let you kiss them as quickly as you are used to.

Edit: And Edlefou is spot on with his last post.

Post: #159

(10-31-2018 07:46 PM)Lermontov Wrote:  If you're a hot guy, many girls in Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, will sleep with you as quickly as they do in Canada and the USA. Through Tinder, a nightclub or else, it doesn't matter. I find the younger generation to be pretty liberated and open.

If you were 30 year old tall and muscular Carlos from Latin America who can dance the salsa, your perceptions would probably be different.

Your argument is flawed, some guys may be able to pull one night stands, those same guys would get laid 10x as much in the US. No matter who the person is, the same person will get laid much more in the US. If you want to compare apples to oranges instead of apples to apples, sure one guy in the US might get laid the same amount as a different guy in Russia.

(10-31-2018 04:20 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  If i go to Russia how long would i need to spend to find a few matches who are DTF ? I dont like to go on many dates, usually just 2 dates for me after that i usually next the girl... the russian girls overseas are DTF.how about in Russia itself? English levels i imagine outside Moscow and St petersburg are very low

I have seen your posts before about the Philippines, one of the easiest places in the world. EE will be a pussy desert for anyone struggling to get laid easily in the Philippines.

Post: #160

(11-01-2018 07:30 AM)edlefou Wrote:  When people talk about the three date rule in EE, it doesn't mean one night stands and same date lays don't happen.

When people talk about gold diggers in EE, it doesn't mean there aren't any sweethearts out there.

However, it's accepted wisdom that EE women are materialistic and strategic, playing the long game instead of fucking around. Ignore that wisdom at your peril.

To suggest that EE women are women who ride the carousel to the same extent as in the USA and Canada is straight-up trolling.

I agree. I think all of the experiences here are anecdotal and of course there are always exceptions.

But if someone believes you can easily score with Russian women early on. I suggest they get a visa and give it a try. It might surprise you. And please report back your own experience on this site.

Post: #161

Let me try to rephrase what I was trying to say. Let's use the term sociosexuality (google it if you're not familiar with it) and take ethnic russian girls in the FSU as a group. I believe, like many members of the forum, that this group is on average more restricted than the group of women in the usa or Canada for example (will be less likely to engage in uncommited sex quickly). But the spectrum of interindividual variation will still overlap significantly with the one in the USA. We're not talking about Saudi Arabia or Dagestan. In other words, I believe, and have experienced/witnessed, that you can find a significant amount of women who are riding the carousel in cities as big as Moscow, Minsk or Almaty for example.

Of course that remains anecdotal.

That being said, with such a high number of women in a big city and the relative low number of interactions that a guy visiting will have, the outcome can be vastly different for the same person for a same type of trip. A lot of randomness will be a factor.

Mixing apples with oranges could be guys in their fifties who don't speak russian trying to predict the general outcome for men who might look and be very different from them.

A good-looking young guy who has his tinder game on point AND speaks russia can get laid as much in a big city in the FSU than in the US because of the relative abundance of promiscuous women thanks to a very large population and interindividual variation, and because the limiting factor there will mostly be time. I believe that if the guy doesn't speak russian the chance of meeting with sociosexually restricted women who only want to practice english will significantly affect the outcome in a negative fashion

Post: #162

I’ll just add my own anecdotes, fwiw.

American, 30’s, and have been doing Russia a little over 2 years now.

I think before any American stumbles into Russia, they should spend time learning about and appreciating Russian history and culture. A bit of practice with the language is encouraged, although I’ve gotten ok by relying on the women I’m with to help speaking to people and translating things.

As far as the character of the women goes, you should expect a fairly challenging learning curve which is where I’ve noticed many others like myself to give up. Personally, I can appreciate such things, but it’s not for everybody.

It took me a good 3-4 months to start getting a handle on how to communicate with them, and there’s not a whole lot of ‘one size fits all’ kind of advice I have about that other to note that Russia takes great pride in being one unto itself. They’re not West, and they’re not East. I wouldn’t even say they’re somewhere in between.

This encouraged me to be a bit more creative in my approach, and the biggest takeaway learned that I still use to great effect most anywhere is what I gained in my non-verbal communication skills.

Since I would spend less time worrying about the actual words I was using, I was able to correct some of those overlooked details like posture, room presence, use of hands/feet/eye contact, and all those things that only women notice and will disqualify over for seemingly no reason at all.

Since what works for me may not work for yourself, I’ll just say that having the disposition of a strong, silent type kind of alpha should serve most men well with Russian women.

Things that don’t seem to work well with Russian women is our Western sense of humour. I used to think I was a pretty funny guy, but any hint of clownish game I may have had lurking within me was quickly eradicated, as was sarcasm. If you can get that to work for you, more power to you, but I personally got nowhere being funny. You’ll just be seen as buffoonish.

Some positives that I have include their openness to older men. I’ve never had my age be a detriment with them, which is something I haven’t quite replicated in all the places I’ve been with a Caucasian majority population.

I also like how they’re mostly unaffected by a lot of the political correctness propaganda of the West, although this isn’t completely true and that you should always observe and never assume too much. But generally speaking, they seem to behave more like women who expect you to lead, and it’s one of the changes from Anglophone women I’ve most enjoyed.

Some neutral observations (not particularly good or bad things): since you are expected to lead, that means it’s generally not advisable to make them pay for things unless it’s a ticket from wherever they live to where you plan on meeting them if you’re getting to know them online first. But once they’re with you, and if they’re understanding that you don’t feel comfortable floating them any money until you meet, chances are they’re legit. Personally, I’ve never suspected any of the women I’ve seen of trying to con me, but be advised that other men say they have, and to just use your better judgement. A lot of men cannot seem to stand this aspect of paying for things, which is why I consider it a neutral item to note. I can’t imagine myself asking a Russian woman to pay for meals and hotel rooms and such, but I’ve never been to night clubs there or had to worry about a drinks tab looting my wallet, so it’s probably just as important that you’re choosing the right kind of company, and like most everywhere else, hanging around alcohol and debauchery will make the chances of you getting hustled go way up, so plan accordingly.

Some negative takeaways: while I would say Russian women are of above average intelligence, you may struggle to form deeper intellectual connections than expected. Even if they speak good English (the women I’ve been with do) they’re not all that receptive to our suggestions and good advice. I’ve experienced this elsewhere in the world as well, but it seems their pride can come before your wisdom and experience, so I’d suggest being prepared for dealing with their defiance shit testing through direct and deliberate action, and not words. Talk is cheap with these people in comparison.

Another negative is that nearly all the Russian women I’ve met either have a poor, or non-existent relationship with their fathers. For me, it wasn’t until I started getting into Russian women did I realise how inevitably problematic this will become. It’s not unusual to meet women who will say their only memories of their father revolve around alcoholism and abandonment, and it predictably (although not always immediately noticeable) will reflect in their character; namely the fragile relationship you’ll have with their loyalty. These types I would definitely advise being most careful with if you have marriage aspirations or want to have children. If after 10 years of knowing her she’s not already gone, chances seem high that she will probably already hate your guts and be scheming to get out. This can possibly be avoided by leveraging your power financially so she doesn’t have enough of her own money to act on such ideas, but if you end up bringing them back to America, they quickly learn how pathetically easy it is for them to find and manipulate Mr. Beta-Bux, so plan accordingly.

There’s a lot of good advice here and in other threads, but I don’t think you should let any of those who are more critical to deter you from trying. There may be easier women elsewhere, and if it’s easy you want, try your luck in the Philippines or Uganda. But if you can learn to appreciate Russia for more than just poontang, you can have a good experience and get most of what you want out of it.

Post: #163

(11-17-2018 05:02 AM)RespectivePerspective Wrote:  I’ll just add my own anecdotes, fwiw.

American, 30’s, and have been doing Russia a little over 2 years now.

I think before any American stumbles into Russia, they should spend time learning about and appreciating Russian history and culture. A bit of practice with the language is encouraged, although I’ve gotten ok by relying on the women I’m with to help speaking to people and translating things.

As far as the character of the women goes, you should expect a fairly challenging learning curve which is where I’ve noticed many others like myself to give up. Personally, I can appreciate such things, but it’s not for everybody.

It took me a good 3-4 months to start getting a handle on how to communicate with them, and there’s not a whole lot of ‘one size fits all’ kind of advice I have about that other to note that Russia takes great pride in being one unto itself. They’re not West, and they’re not East. I wouldn’t even say they’re somewhere in between.

This encouraged me to be a bit more creative in my approach, and the biggest takeaway learned that I still use to great effect most anywhere is what I gained in my non-verbal communication skills.

Since I would spend less time worrying about the actual words I was using, I was able to correct some of those overlooked details like posture, room presence, use of hands/feet/eye contact, and all those things that only women notice and will disqualify over for seemingly no reason at all.

Since what works for me may not work for yourself, I’ll just say that having the disposition of a strong, silent type kind of alpha should serve most men well with Russian women.

Things that don’t seem to work well with Russian women is our Western sense of humour. I used to think I was a pretty funny guy, but any hint of clownish game I may have had lurking within me was quickly eradicated, as was sarcasm. If you can get that to work for you, more power to you, but I personally got nowhere being funny. You’ll just be seen as buffoonish.

Some positives that I have include their openness to older men. I’ve never had my age be a detriment with them, which is something I haven’t quite replicated in all the places I’ve been with a Caucasian majority population.

I also like how they’re mostly unaffected by a lot of the political correctness propaganda of the West, although this isn’t completely true and that you should always observe and never assume too much. But generally speaking, they seem to behave more like women who expect you to lead, and it’s one of the changes from Anglophone women I’ve most enjoyed.

Some neutral observations (not particularly good or bad things): since you are expected to lead, that means it’s generally not advisable to make them pay for things unless it’s a ticket from wherever they live to where you plan on meeting them if you’re getting to know them online first. But once they’re with you, and if they’re understanding that you don’t feel comfortable floating them any money until you meet, chances are they’re legit. Personally, I’ve never suspected any of the women I’ve seen of trying to con me, but be advised that other men say they have, and to just use your better judgement. A lot of men cannot seem to stand this aspect of paying for things, which is why I consider it a neutral item to note. I can’t imagine myself asking a Russian woman to pay for meals and hotel rooms and such, but I’ve never been to night clubs there or had to worry about a drinks tab looting my wallet, so it’s probably just as important that you’re choosing the right kind of company, and like most everywhere else, hanging around alcohol and debauchery will make the chances of you getting hustled go way up, so plan accordingly.

Some negative takeaways: while I would say Russian women are of above average intelligence, you may struggle to form deeper intellectual connections than expected. Even if they speak good English (the women I’ve been with do) they’re not all that receptive to our suggestions and good advice. I’ve experienced this elsewhere in the world as well, but it seems their pride can come before your wisdom and experience, so I’d suggest being prepared for dealing with their defiance shit testing through direct and deliberate action, and not words. Talk is cheap with these people in comparison.

Another negative is that nearly all the Russian women I’ve met either have a poor, or non-existent relationship with their fathers. For me, it wasn’t until I started getting into Russian women did I realise how inevitably problematic this will become. It’s not unusual to meet women who will say their only memories of their father revolve around alcoholism and abandonment, and it predictably (although not always immediately noticeable) will reflect in their character; namely the fragile relationship you’ll have with their loyalty. These types I would definitely advise being most careful with if you have marriage aspirations or want to have children. If after 10 years of knowing her she’s not already gone, chances seem high that she will probably already hate your guts and be scheming to get out. This can possibly be avoided by leveraging your power financially so she doesn’t have enough of her own money to act on such ideas, but if you end up bringing them back to America, they quickly learn how pathetically easy it is for them to find and manipulate Mr. Beta-Bux, so plan accordingly.

There’s a lot of good advice here and in other threads, but I don’t think you should let any of those who are more critical to deter you from trying. There may be easier women elsewhere, and if it’s easy you want, try your luck in the Philippines or Uganda. But if you can learn to appreciate Russia for more than just poontang, you can have a good experience and get most of what you want out of it.

Excellent post. Lots of good information in here. I learned a few things from your observations. But I will say I learned the most and it was about myself when I was actually there having the experience good and bad. And yes agree everyone should try it at least once. There are a lot of guys on this site who seem to be only dating 10's and not paying for anything and getting to sex quickly. I want to hear some of those stories and how they got to that point. Not hearing very many though.

Interesting point about their attitude. Russians do seem to be in a world of their own. And the rest of the world is just not quite right. However at the same time they are fascinated by travel and going and living in other parts of the world. I believe this like most other things is a holdover of their Soviet past.

I will give you a couple of anecdotes that were fascinating to me. All of the women I dated and spent time with over there were intelligent, cultured and educated. They were well read and spoke at least two languages or more. But one woman a very smart woman made a point of letting me know in no uncertain terms that America never put a man on the moon. That it was all made up and it was faked. I was a big incredulous since I actually know many people that worked on the Apollo program, and I have actually met an astronaut that went to the moon. But I did not say anything I just smiled and kept it to myself. Why bother and mess up a good thing.

On another Russian woman sweet and as can be and crazy about me. We were having a nice romantic walk in Prague when we can across a display of very large embossed photographs showing the struggle of the people of Prague in 68 with Russian T72 tanks and unarmed Chezch kids with Molotov cocktails standing up to them. It was incontrovertible. When I mentioned it to her she seemed to know nothing about it and did not want to discuss it. She smiled and tried to ignore it. I brought it up again and explained it to her briefly and she did not even seem to believe me. I was amazed. This was an educated and worldly person. Not some rube from a village kept in the dark.

At that point, I immediately dropped it. Knowing that politics and pussy do not mix. I have even heard stories of American men married to Russian women who ended their marriages when they got into discussions about WWII and what happened there. It is a just a no-go zone where you cannot win. Or if you do win you lose ultimately and what for?

Interesting thing.

Post: #164

(10-31-2018 04:05 PM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  Russian humour is very different. The standup shows that are on TV constantly are very loud, very physical in nature and a lot of musical type stuff worked in, almost "childish" in nature. Basically they love the slapstick style more than dark or clever humour.

LOL, you don't understand anything about Russia.

I see you are in Russia currently - I bet Russians are making a thousand jokes about you that go over your head and they view you as a narrow minded Western "NPC".

Post: #165

(11-17-2018 09:36 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(10-31-2018 04:05 PM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  Russian humour is very different. The standup shows that are on TV constantly are very loud, very physical in nature and a lot of musical type stuff worked in, almost "childish" in nature. Basically they love the slapstick style more than dark or clever humour.

LOL, you don't understand anything about Russia.

I see you are in Russia currently - I bet Russians are making a thousand jokes about you that go over your head and they view you as a narrow minded Western "NPC".

You didn't really offer a constructive counter response here, mate. As a matter of fact all you did was insult the guy and you weren't even very creative or clever about it.

Try again.

Post: #166

(11-17-2018 01:07 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

(11-17-2018 09:36 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(10-31-2018 04:05 PM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  Russian humour is very different. The standup shows that are on TV constantly are very loud, very physical in nature and a lot of musical type stuff worked in, almost "childish" in nature. Basically they love the slapstick style more than dark or clever humour.

LOL, you don't understand anything about Russia.

I see you are in Russia currently - I bet Russians are making a thousand jokes about you that go over your head and they view you as a narrow minded Western "NPC".

You didn't really offer a constructive counter response here, mate. As a matter of fact all you did was insult the guy and you weren't even very creative or clever about it.

Try again.

Yes, I agree. Is there any advice or anecdotal experiences you can offer?

Post: #167

(11-17-2018 01:57 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  

(11-17-2018 01:07 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

(11-17-2018 09:36 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(10-31-2018 04:05 PM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  Russian humour is very different. The standup shows that are on TV constantly are very loud, very physical in nature and a lot of musical type stuff worked in, almost "childish" in nature. Basically they love the slapstick style more than dark or clever humour.

LOL, you don't understand anything about Russia.

I see you are in Russia currently - I bet Russians are making a thousand jokes about you that go over your head and they view you as a narrow minded Western "NPC".

You didn't really offer a constructive counter response here, mate. As a matter of fact all you did was insult the guy and you weren't even very creative or clever about it.

Try again.

Yes, I agree. Is there any advice or anecdotal experiences you can offer?

Do you guys speak Russian on a level high enough to understand nuanced jokes?

If you do - you would not claim that Russian humor is simplistic or shallow.

If you do not - then what is the point of me bothering and searching internet for evidence? You would not understand it anyway.

I suspect your view of Russian humor comes from limited understanding - you think their humor is simplistic because that is the only humor you can understand from them.

Unless you know the language pretty well you cannot really judge the humor level of a foreign nation.

As a person who speaks both Russian and English I can say that generally Russian humor >>>>> English humor.

Most English speakers cannot even take a joke and get offended over every minor shit. Very limited by Politically correct thinking. The occasional good jokes in English then are usually about breaking the politically correct boundaries. "Oh look - a line was crossed - I didn't know you could say something like that about that group - so brave and funny. Oh something not politically correct was said - let's make it a meme."

Russians are uninhibited by that crap to begin with. Also with their language being much more flexible they can make jokes that would not be possible in English. Also due to all the shit that Russians have been going trough historically they have really mastered the art of looking to any life situation with humor. Whereas an English speaking westerner would lose his mind and claim abuse and harassment and a victim status a Russian speaking would likely see the irony and the some funny paradox and revelation about life in that situation.

Your serious and upright reaction to my post just proves my point.

And of course it is all a generalization - an individual matters more then a nationalistic group and there are both funny and unfunny people everywhere.

Oh, and if you want to feel better about yourselves then I can say that English humor is still better then German humor. Now that is where we enter the really uncomfortable zone of awkwardness when it comes to telling and receiving jokes.

Post: #168

(11-17-2018 06:22 PM)Mage Wrote:  

(11-17-2018 01:57 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  

(11-17-2018 01:07 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

(11-17-2018 09:36 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(10-31-2018 04:05 PM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  Russian humour is very different. The standup shows that are on TV constantly are very loud, very physical in nature and a lot of musical type stuff worked in, almost "childish" in nature. Basically they love the slapstick style more than dark or clever humour.

LOL, you don't understand anything about Russia.

I see you are in Russia currently - I bet Russians are making a thousand jokes about you that go over your head and they view you as a narrow minded Western "NPC".

You didn't really offer a constructive counter response here, mate. As a matter of fact all you did was insult the guy and you weren't even very creative or clever about it.

Try again.

Yes, I agree. Is there any advice or anecdotal experiences you can offer?

Do you guys speak Russian on a level high enough to understand nuanced jokes?

If you do - you would not claim that Russian humor is simplistic or shallow.

If you do not - then what is the point of me bothering and searching internet for evidence? You would not understand it anyway.

I suspect your view of Russian humor comes from limited understanding - you think their humor is simplistic because that is the only humor you can understand from them.

Unless you know the language pretty well you cannot really judge the humor level of a foreign nation.

As a person who speaks both Russian and English I can say that generally Russian humor >>>>> English humor.

Most English speakers cannot even take a joke and get offended over every minor shit. Very limited by Politically correct thinking. The occasional good jokes in English then are usually about breaking the politically correct boundaries. "Oh look - a line was crossed - I didn't know you could say something like that about that group - so brave and funny. Oh something not politically correct was said - let's make it a meme."

Russians are uninhibited by that crap to begin with. Also with their language being much more flexible they can make jokes that would not be possible in English. Also due to all the shit that Russians have been going trough historically they have really mastered the art of looking to any life situation with humor. Whereas an English speaking westerner would lose his mind and claim abuse and harassment and a victim status a Russian speaking would likely see the irony and the some funny paradox and revelation about life in that situation.

Your serious and upright reaction to my post just proves my point.

And of course it is all a generalization - an individual matters more then a nationalistic group and there are both funny and unfunny people everywhere.

Oh, and if you want to feel better about yourselves then I can say that English humor is still better then German humor. Now that is where we enter the really uncomfortable zone of awkwardness when it comes to telling and receiving jokes.

Still nothing constructive just more insults.

I never said anything about Russian humor. I could care less about American humor vs Russian or Martian humor. I also can care less about political correctness. I personally had many laughs with the Russian people I have met. And I have very little knowledge of the Russian language.

I remember one woman I spent time with, we had many laughs about a joke that was akin to Monty Python (not American or Russian but British of course) Where he was losing parts of his body due to terrible injuries, and John Cleese just kept stoically saying he was fine he was ok....I guess you have to be there. We thought it was funny.

That is an anecdote that illustrates my experience.

I do not understand why so many on these threads are always so angry and upset with what everyone else is saying.

Post: #169

(11-17-2018 07:16 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  Still nothing constructive just more insults.

It's only insults if you take these observations of mine as such.

(11-17-2018 07:16 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  I do not understand why so many on these threads are always so angry and upset with what everyone else is saying.

I dunno, it is you who says he feels insulted.

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This discussion reminds me of an old Russian joke during the Soviet days:

In Moscow, a husband has been standing in line at a butcher shop for seven hours when the butcher announces, “Comrades, I am sorry to inform you that we are out of meat.”

The husband blows his top. “I am a worker! I am a communist! I am a veteran of the Great Patriotic Revolution!” he yells. “And now you tell me you’re out of meat! This country stinks!”

A large man in a trench coat approaches. “Comrade, Comrade, calm yourself,” he says. “You know what would have happened to you in the old days of Joseph Stalin if you had talked this way.” The large man makes a thumb and forefinger motion at his temple and says, “So please, Comrade, go home.”

When the husband gets home empty-handed, his wife asks, “Are they out of meat?” The husband replies: “Worse than that. They’re out of bullets.”