Post: #101

(08-17-2018 03:28 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  

(08-17-2018 11:35 AM)Count Pierre Wrote:  

(08-11-2018 08:38 PM)reco2100 Wrote:  It was kind of funny watching a "black"? Dude singing in Russian and doing rap. lol

Timati is one of the most famous singer in Russia/FSU ..... I know nothing about rap, but he is the equivalent in term of popularity to, I guess, Jay Z or Eminen - or rappers even more famous in the US (with of course less global reach). He made duos with some other famous russian singers like Grigory Leps (who actually is georgian, and is the equivalent of say Springsteen in the US, or Johnny Halliday in France). If you want to mesh well with russian chicks, and not look like a total ignorant about Russia, I would suggest doing your homework for a bit more of cultural awereness/knowledge ... Russian women are suckers about their own culture (of course not just singers, but also classic or contemporary authors, poets, classic soviet movies, ect..) - and if cultural knowledge alone will not get you direct access to panties in the FSU, it moves you a step closer and allows for the possibility by separating you from a guy solely hungry for russian pussy.

I could give two flying fucks about Russian rap music and I certainly am not going to feign interest and supplicate myself to some chick because she may or may not like rap music. Women appreciate honesty and directness.

And it has been my experience that displaying your knowledge of any type to a chick to get in her panties is a ticket to the friend zone. The last thing you want to do is show off your knowledge.

Very bitter answer, and nothing to do with the legit tip by Count Pierre.

Post: #102

(08-17-2018 03:39 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Very bitter answer, and nothing to do with the legit tip by Count Pierre.

It"s ok, I also don't give two flying fucks, it's a typically "yankee" attitude, ignorant and contemptuous towards other cultures, and fiercely proud to be and to remain.

Post: #103

Not bitter at all. And I believe the tip is not legit at all. Women do not respond sexually to a man displaying his knowledge. I think it was meant as a sideways slap at Americans. It was Pierre who was condescending to me. Look at the quote:

"If you want to mesh well with russian chicks, and not look like a total ignorant about Russia, I would suggest doing your homework for a bit more of cultural awereness /knowledge..."

Which he quickly proves in his next comment about "typical Yankee attitude ignorant and contemptuous" by lumping all Americans together and showing his own "contempt" once again.

Let's try to stay positive and not attack the folks posting on this thread.

Post: #104

^^The thing is...unless you are on a strip club, where a girl is there faking that she is interested in what you have to tell....In a normal conversation with someone Russian is cool to show some cultural knowledge here and there.
Well, at least to me it never failed.

Post: #105

(08-17-2018 04:18 PM)Rocha Wrote:  ^^The thing is...unless you are on a strip club, where a girl is there faking that she is interested in what you have to tell....In a normal conversation with someone Russian is cool to show some cultural knowledge here and there.
Well, at least to me it never failed.

Same for me I recently went on a date with a russian chick who spoke fluent english with a perfect british accent and could also speak french fluently we talked for more than 10 minutes about the novel crime and punishment from Dostoevsky it really separates you from the rest of the other foreigners and show a real interest in their culture, and russian women appreciate intelligence and culture.

Plus it's pretty cool to talk about such subjects with a woman it changes from the simple chats and clown game used in the west. Every time I talked about deep subjects with FSU women I canno't stop myself from telling them how dumb women are in the west and how I couldn't have the same conversation in my home country.

Post: #106

(08-17-2018 03:44 PM)Count Pierre Wrote:  

(08-17-2018 03:39 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Very bitter answer, and nothing to do with the legit tip by Count Pierre.

It"s ok, I also don't give two flying fucks, it's a typically "yankee" attitude, ignorant and contemptuous towards other cultures, and fiercely proud to be and to remain.

We have two oceans on either side. Forgive us for our naïveté.

The guy in the striped hoodie with his arms crossed is actually me.

Post: #107

(08-17-2018 04:54 PM)LeBaron Wrote:  

(08-17-2018 04:18 PM)Rocha Wrote:  ^^The thing is...unless you are on a strip club, where a girl is there faking that she is interested in what you have to tell....In a normal conversation with someone Russian is cool to show some cultural knowledge here and there.
Well, at least to me it never failed.

Same for me I recently went on a date with a russian chick who spoke fluent english with a perfect british accent and could also speak french fluently we talked for more than 10 minutes about the novel crime and punishment from Dostoevsky it really separates you from the rest of the other foreigners and show a real interest in their culture, and russian women appreciate intelligence and culture.

Plus it's pretty cool to talk about such subjects with a woman it changes from the simple chats and clown game used in the west. Every time I talked about deep subjects with FSU women I canno't stop myself from telling them how dumb women are in the west and how I couldn't have the same conversation in my home country.

I agree until the bolded part. On there you are putting them on a pedestal...and we all know that will end in a wank...
I am neutral to positive regarding western women, at least in my conversations with FSU chicks.

(Btw I love Brazilians and latinas in general, and starting to get a sweet spot towards french chicks...also the occasional portuguese local here and there, after all they are my countrywomen))))

Post: #108

(08-17-2018 04:54 PM)LeBaron Wrote:  Same for me I recently went on a date with a russian chick who spoke fluent english with a perfect british accent and could also speak french fluently we talked for more than 10 minutes about the novel crime and punishment from Dostoevsky it really separates you from the rest of the other foreigners and show a real interest in their culture, and russian women appreciate intelligence and culture.

Well done with Crime & Punishment, even if personally, when the conversation comes to classic masterpieces, I prefer talking about "lighter" novels like Master & Margarita or A Hero of Our Time. Dostoievski is a quite heavy topic !!!!. Also being able to quote a few lines from a great poet (Turgeniev, Pushkin, Marina Tsvetaeva, ect), even approximately translated in english, will always work great.

Cultural knowledge and understanding is the geat russian pussy moistener .....it can wither the defenses of even the most suspicious of russian (or ukrainian for that matter) females. That said, it does not have to be high cultural knowledge either, contemporary culture works just as well - can be talking about singers like Zemfira or Leps, bands like B2 or Leningrad, authors like Pelevin, movies like Brat, ect ect... However, by-and-large russian girls are far more well-read and learned in classical arts (painting, music, ect) than western girls. Their intelligence is astounding.

Anyway I would say that cultural knowledge and understanding is a big piece of the jigsaw possibly more so that language.

I'm amused (and admittedly, astonished by so much idiocy) when I hear guys going to Russia and saying that they "don't give two flying fucks" about russian culture, and thinking that they might be successful. Well, maybe they might, but with the most ditzy chicks. And anyway, even without talking about women, you won't make many friends in Russia with such an attitude. When people feel that you don't respect them, they don't respect you either.

Post: #109

Recommend watching the documentary 'Love Me'

Post: #110

Add me to the knowing Russian culture is a massive advantage and point of difference to most tourists. Russians are in general much prouder of their culture than any other country I've been to outside of maybe the Latin countries (in a different way). You can pretty much see the moment the epic bitch shields come down (and Russian girls have some of the best bitch shields you will ever see) when you display a genuine knowledge and interest in their culture. The best part of the culture angle is that it works without knowing the language and is a lot easier to get some good knowledge on for multiple topics (aka different girls who like different things), of course if you can do it in the language then you're even more golden.

If you're at all interested in women under 30 then knowing Timati and at least some of his songs is about as good a ticket as you can have to play with the vast majority of Russian women in that age bracket. Quite simply he is their Drake (with more talent), the biggest star going around and everything he touches turns to gold. His clothing label, his restaurants, his stable of artists and so on. He's a megastar and knowing who he is carries with it serious points.

Russia is the most different place I've seen for gaming. It's the only country I've been to where physical appearance isn't in the first couple of things that girls consider when choosing a partner, intelligence, ability to have fun, ability to hold a conversation and a few other things will trump how you look. Having a knowledge of their culture fits into multiple areas of that criteria list.

Post: #111

Well, things are going pretty well. I am having a great time and could not be happier. My first apartment was in the Basmanny district which is not too far from City center but is a quiet neighborhood.

I met a young lady. Young for me. lol She is a Psychologist but is now divorced and raising her daughter. A great woman we will call her G. She has shown me all around Moscow. There is so much to see. She speaks good English and is sexy as hell.

On the second day, she moved some things into my apartment and we have been really enjoying our time together. Her sensuality and eagerness are truly amazing.

Russian Stalin architecture everywhere that G was explaining to me. Some of it is pretty rough looking. We also went to many of the tourist places like Gorky Park and Kremlin, and Patriarch Ponds, we even went to Tretyakov Gallery with lots of original Russian artists, and she told me about her favorite writers Gogol and Pushkin. That last part is for all these French boys on here that have their head up their ass about culture constantly. lol

I asked you to keep your insults and off thread topics out of here. But you cannot help yourself. Your resentment is so intense it is palpable. Take it somewhere else.

We also went to a few nice restaurants I really liked this Georgian restaurant we went to last night. An interesting thing happened we were sitting at this nice table that had big open windows that opened out onto the street. And there was a table with four Russian men right next to us. When these dudes got up and they started walking to the door and immediately out of nowhere 5 security people showed up and escorted them to a car not far away and three cars left together. G then told me that this was not a good place to sit next to them. Because whoever they are they must be a target and we were too close.

Anyway, the food was good and the wine even better, and we walked around the city, watching street musicians. The best street musicians I have ever seen. We spent another day around Old Arbat Street really nice. Lots of beautiful women walking around.

Back to the original meaning of this thread. The Russian people and Russian women I have met so far have been pretty cool overall. If you are on the metro they seem to always have a very sad or angry look on their faces. But if you talk to them and ask a question I usually get a good response. I have even had one Russian chick stop me when I looked lost (which happens often) to offer to help me. Also when you are on the streets I notice when you make a turn to look at them you will often catch them looking at you, and then they will quickly look away. My friend G said that Russians are very nosy and gossipy.

Overall it is a great experience. Yesterday we had to part ways I met another Russian chick we will call her E and we are meeting up to hang out this morning. She is 28 so she is much younger than G, and her English is not as good as the last one. G was very friendly, and happy, and we made each other laugh a lot. E is cuter, but more reserved, but very sweet so far. We will see how it goes. It will have to go very good to surpass the first one.

I have only my own experiences to go by here on the ground. But it has been mostly positive so far. My biggest problem has been with my SIM card using Tel2. It is absolutely awful and no one can help me with it. It worked the first two days and not voice does not work. I am going to take E and go to one of their stores so she can translate and help me get it working. My Amex card has been shut down for some reason probably a fraud alert and the only way to get it cleared is to call them. But I cannot call them on my phone. So I will work on that today also.

Any suggestions on a good company to get a SIM card would be great.

Lastly @ Vet. Fucking hilarious seeing you on that video.

Post: #112

(08-22-2018 04:05 AM)reco2100 Wrote:  Well, things are going pretty well. I am having a great time and could not be happier. My first apartment was in the Basmanny district which is not too far from City center but is a quiet neighborhood.

I met a young lady. Young for me. lol She is a Psychologist but is now divorced and raising her daughter. A great woman we will call her G. She has shown me all around Moscow. There is so much to see. She speaks good English and is sexy as hell.

On the second day, she moved some things into my apartment and we have been really enjoying our time together. Her sensuality and eagerness are truly amazing.

Russian Stalin architecture everywhere that G was explaining to me. Some of it is pretty rough looking. We also went to many of the tourist places like Gorky Park and Kremlin, and Patriarch Ponds, we even went to Tretyakov Gallery with lots of original Russian artists, and she told me about her favorite writers Gogol and Pushkin. That last part is for all these French boys on here that have their head up their ass about culture constantly. lol

I asked you to keep your insults and off thread topics out of here. But you cannot help yourself. Your resentment is so intense it is palpable. Take it somewhere else.

We also went to a few nice restaurants I really liked this Georgian restaurant we went to last night. An interesting thing happened we were sitting at this nice table that had big open windows that opened out onto the street. And there was a table with four Russian men right next to us. When these dudes got up and they started walking to the door and immediately out of nowhere 5 security people showed up and escorted them to a car not far away and three cars left together. G then told me that this was not a good place to sit next to them. Because whoever they are they must be a target and we were too close.

Anyway, the food was good and the wine even better, and we walked around the city, watching street musicians. The best street musicians I have ever seen. We spent another day around Old Arbat Street really nice. Lots of beautiful women walking around.

Back to the original meaning of this thread. The Russian people and Russian women I have met so far have been pretty cool overall. If you are on the metro they seem to always have a very sad or angry look on their faces. But if you talk to them and ask a question I usually get a good response. I have even had one Russian chick stop me when I looked lost (which happens often) to offer to help me. Also when you are on the streets I notice when you make a turn to look at them you will often catch them looking at you, and then they will quickly look away. My friend G said that Russians are very nosy and gossipy.

Overall it is a great experience. Yesterday we had to part ways I met another Russian chick we will call her E and we are meeting up to hang out this morning. She is 28 so she is much younger than G, and her English is not as good as the last one. G was very friendly, and happy, and we made each other laugh a lot. E is cuter, but more reserved, but very sweet so far. We will see how it goes. It will have to go very good to surpass the first one.

I have only my own experiences to go by here on the ground. But it has been mostly positive so far. My biggest problem has been with my SIM card using Tel2. It is absolutely awful and no one can help me with it. It worked the first two days and not voice does not work. I am going to take E and go to one of their stores so she can translate and help me get it working. My Amex card has been shut down for some reason probably a fraud alert and the only way to get it cleared is to call them. But I cannot call them on my phone. So I will work on that today also.

Any suggestions on a good company to get a SIM card would be great.

Lastly @ Vet. Fucking hilarious seeing you on that video.

Have had no issues with MTS (looks like MTC in Cyrillic) but really any of Beeline (yellow and black), MTS (red and white) or MegaFon (Green) are good, the shops are generally with pissing distance of each other as Russia is one of those "put 10 of the same shops next to each other" countries.

Also would highly recommend getting Viber Out if you're going to be making any international calls, just need a decent wifi connection and it's a cheaper option. Have had a lot of similar issues with my bank and have probably spent about 5 hours on the phone with them overall and I'm still on the original $10 I loaded.

Sounds like you're having fun mate so keep enjoying it!

Post: #113

(08-17-2018 09:26 PM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  



We have two oceans on either side. Forgive us for our naïveté.

The guy in the striped hoodie with his arms crossed is actually me.

Lol. that's awesome. You really made the video. All the others were so damned boring letting that guy use them as laughing stock.

(08-22-2018 04:05 AM)reco2100 Wrote:  Any suggestions on a good company to get a SIM card would be great.

Probably an issue with compatibility between your phone and Tele2. I would try Megafon, Beeline or MTS, as suggested. Tele2 is a very minor operator in Russia.

Sounds like you're having fun. Don't assume that younger girls are off limits because of your age. There's nothing unusual about 20+ year age gaps in Russia. The only caveat is that college girls are often flakey, so aim slightly above that age range given that your time in Moscow is limited.

Post: #114

(08-22-2018 04:05 AM)reco2100 Wrote:  My biggest problem has been with my SIM card using Tel2. It is absolutely awful and no one can help me with it.

Any suggestions on a good company to get a SIM card would be great.

Tele2 is terrible IME, you'd be better off with МегаФон or МТС, I personally use МегаФон where you can currently get 20GB of 4G data, TV services etc for 750₽/month ($11/month).

Post: #115

(08-22-2018 05:57 AM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 04:05 AM)reco2100 Wrote:  Well, things are going pretty well. I am having a great time and could not be happier. My first apartment was in the Basmanny district which is not too far from City center but is a quiet neighborhood.

I met a young lady. Young for me. lol She is a Psychologist but is now divorced and raising her daughter. A great woman we will call her G. She has shown me all around Moscow. There is so much to see. She speaks good English and is sexy as hell.

On the second day, she moved some things into my apartment and we have been really enjoying our time together. Her sensuality and eagerness are truly amazing.

Russian Stalin architecture everywhere that G was explaining to me. Some of it is pretty rough looking. We also went to many of the tourist places like Gorky Park and Kremlin, and Patriarch Ponds, we even went to Tretyakov Gallery with lots of original Russian artists, and she told me about her favorite writers Gogol and Pushkin. That last part is for all these French boys on here that have their head up their ass about culture constantly. lol

I asked you to keep your insults and off thread topics out of here. But you cannot help yourself. Your resentment is so intense it is palpable. Take it somewhere else.

We also went to a few nice restaurants I really liked this Georgian restaurant we went to last night. An interesting thing happened we were sitting at this nice table that had big open windows that opened out onto the street. And there was a table with four Russian men right next to us. When these dudes got up and they started walking to the door and immediately out of nowhere 5 security people showed up and escorted them to a car not far away and three cars left together. G then told me that this was not a good place to sit next to them. Because whoever they are they must be a target and we were too close.

Anyway, the food was good and the wine even better, and we walked around the city, watching street musicians. The best street musicians I have ever seen. We spent another day around Old Arbat Street really nice. Lots of beautiful women walking around.

Back to the original meaning of this thread. The Russian people and Russian women I have met so far have been pretty cool overall. If you are on the metro they seem to always have a very sad or angry look on their faces. But if you talk to them and ask a question I usually get a good response. I have even had one Russian chick stop me when I looked lost (which happens often) to offer to help me. Also when you are on the streets I notice when you make a turn to look at them you will often catch them looking at you, and then they will quickly look away. My friend G said that Russians are very nosy and gossipy.

Overall it is a great experience. Yesterday we had to part ways I met another Russian chick we will call her E and we are meeting up to hang out this morning. She is 28 so she is much younger than G, and her English is not as good as the last one. G was very friendly, and happy, and we made each other laugh a lot. E is cuter, but more reserved, but very sweet so far. We will see how it goes. It will have to go very good to surpass the first one.

I have only my own experiences to go by here on the ground. But it has been mostly positive so far. My biggest problem has been with my SIM card using Tel2. It is absolutely awful and no one can help me with it. It worked the first two days and not voice does not work. I am going to take E and go to one of their stores so she can translate and help me get it working. My Amex card has been shut down for some reason probably a fraud alert and the only way to get it cleared is to call them. But I cannot call them on my phone. So I will work on that today also.

Any suggestions on a good company to get a SIM card would be great.

Lastly @ Vet. Fucking hilarious seeing you on that video.

Have had no issues with MTS (looks like MTC in Cyrillic) but really any of Beeline (yellow and black), MTS (red and white) or MegaFon (Green) are good, the shops are generally with pissing distance of each other as Russia is one of those "put 10 of the same shops next to each other" countries.

Also would highly recommend getting Viber Out if you're going to be making any international calls, just need a decent wifi connection and it's a cheaper option. Have had a lot of similar issues with my bank and have probably spent about 5 hours on the phone with them overall and I'm still on the original $10 I loaded.

Sounds like you're having fun mate so keep enjoying it!

Thanks, guys. I appreciate the advice. I have Viber and some of the women here prefer Viber. But I never thought about making calls using Viber out. I am going to set it up. Awesome thought.

I intend to make the most of it. The new chick today E is a tougher nut to crack. But the game is still new with her.

Post: #116

Megafon is the best.

Post: #117

Well, this latest one E has been not such a big success. She started out cool. But quickly turned into an annoying pain in the ass. I suspected from the first that her interest level was not as high as it should be. But we did have a good day together.

I did a lot of the game techniques that spike interest and they did work in the short term. But at the end of the day if the initial interest is not high they do not last. Besides, there are plenty of other fish in the sea.

Then she started talking about learning English better. I told her I am not an English teacher. Then she started talking about getting a student VISA in the US, and how much jobs paid in the US. I told her I don't know anything about getting VISA's other than they are really really hard to get.

It was late in the day and I cut her loose. Enough of that shit. Very sweet and innocent looking but angling for a way to put her hooks into someone. Oh well, you live and you learn.

Working on others for my next couple of days here.

Post: #118

(08-23-2018 08:53 AM)reco2100 Wrote:  she started talking about learning English better

There are a lot of her kind. Native English speakers are rare in Russia and Russians can't easily visit the US, UK or Canada. Some will only want to use you to practice their English. You can't really tell without wasting 3-4 dates, and then it's too late.

One way to prevent it is to tell them you're from Denmark or Portugal (or whichever country matches your look) but that you've been living in the US for three years. They'll assume your English isn't perfect and won't want to practice with you. Don't choose a country with a popular language; you might get caught and lose a potential bang.

Post: #119

(08-23-2018 09:12 AM)DaveR Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 08:53 AM)reco2100 Wrote:  she started talking about learning English better

There are a lot of her kind. Native English speakers are rare in Russia and Russians can't easily visit the US, UK or Canada. Some will only want to use you to practice their English. You can't really tell without wasting 3-4 dates, and then it's too late.

One way to prevent it is to tell them you're from Denmark or Portugal (or whichever country matches your look) but that you've been living in the US for three years. They'll assume your English isn't perfect and won't want to practice with you. Don't choose a country with a popular language, otherwise you might get caught and lose a potential bang.

I had a date with a girl in Ukraine who admitted to me at the end of the date that she met me only to practice english (and I am not a native english speaker) and that we could be friends, I told her no and left.

Next day on a new date with another girl still a bit pissed from the previous one I told her during the beginning of the date slighlty shouting at her that if I suspect that she's using me to practice english I'll leave, the face she made she was shocked hillarious, banged this one on date 2!

Post: #120

What do you guys say after to these girls when you say you say you don't want to be friends? Don't you have to spit that lie in order to bed them anyway? Or do you make it directly clear verbally you want to bang

Post: #121

(08-23-2018 09:23 AM)LeBaron Wrote:  I had a date with a girl in Ukraine who admitted to me at the end of the date that she met me only to practice english (and I am not a native english speaker) and that we could be friends, I told her no and left.

Weird. Usually they specifically seek out native speakers.

(08-23-2018 09:46 AM)ausazn Wrote:  What do you guys say after to these girls when you say you say you don't want to be friends? Don't you have to spit that lie in order to bed them anyway? Or do you make it directly clear verbally you want to bang

Bring a more attractive girl next time you meet.

Post: #122

That lawyer talked bullshit. Russian women do not grow up in a 'criminal' environment. They ARE however much more likely to do sexual things other women won't, as they grow up in a very male dominated culture. You have just as much chance of finding a good woman in Russia as you do elsewhere, a very slim one.
However, game in Russia, or even in any Western European country where there are tons of Russians, avoid the dating site set ups where you'll inevitably find jaded souls. My tip, go for an 18 or 19 year old Russian. They're the best and still unspoiled. I don't speak Russian and managed to hook up with a Russian, btw, it can be done.

Post: #123

(08-23-2018 09:46 AM)ausazn Wrote:  What do you guys say after to these girls when you say you say you don't want to be friends? Don't you have to spit that lie in order to bed them anyway? Or do you make it directly clear verbally you want to bang

I never in any way indicate to a woman that I want to be friends. In fact I actually bring up the subject sometimes and tell them that men and women cannot be friends. You should always be escalating and communicating your sexual intent.

Post: #124

(08-23-2018 10:14 AM)Jefferson Wrote:  That lawyer talked bullshit. Russian women do not grow up in a 'criminal' environment. They ARE however much more likely to do sexual things other women won't, as they grow up in a very male dominated culture. You have just as much chance of finding a good woman in Russia as you do elsewhere, a very slim one.
However, game in Russia, or even in any Western European country where there are tons of Russians, avoid the dating site set ups where you'll inevitably find jaded souls. My tip, go for an 18 or 19 year old Russian. They're the best and still unspoiled. I don't speak Russian and managed to hook up with a Russian, btw, it can be done.

Jefferson, I agree. My experience here so far limited that it may be is that most of these women are just women and not criminally motivated. I have heard a lot of shit about Moscow being a depressing place. I find it to be a vibrant and fast-moving and interesting city.

Such a target rich environment it is truly amazing. You really think I have a shot at 18 and 19 YO when I am mid-fifties?

Post: #125

Reco, why not try? You will find out. It will depend on your looks, your game, but even if it is not A1 if you hit the right 19 year old at the right time you could succeed. I would try. I am pushing 50 and had a twen recently, though admittedly the last 18 year old was when I was 29. It does not mean excluding 28 year olds, however, as you probably know the party years are from 18 to 23, after that age their relationship baggage is not just a pain to deal with it affects them in a way that they become more mercenary, less sweet. Go for as young as you can, ideally younger than 25.

I have walked on Moscow's streets and felt safer than in Western cities. Most Russians are NOT criminals, it's total bullshit, of course there's mafia and maybe more than other places but they're a minority, most Russians are normal people. Try the hotel Metropol in Moscow for breakfast, a million dollar experience for 40 bucks. Moscow can be depressing, service is often terrible, and if you're there in winter, but any place is what you make of it. It depends where you are and what you do. I was in Bali and stayed in Nusa Dua, which was heaven on earth, then spoke to guys who stayed in Kuta with the Aussie riff-raff and they hated Bali. It's what you make of it. And have fun with Russian women, they're great.