Post: #1

Hi

I've been living in the Ukraine for a few months now, and I think the lifestyle i'm leading is making me sick in the head!.

I'm a pretty decent looking guy, and coupled with the fact I earn a pretty large income here, I am doing rather well here.

But I am trying to work today, and my head is scrambled, I can't stop thinking about the bouncing breasts of this 18yr old girl I met last night. I can't think of anything apart from shagging, I only work to provide money to shag, and soon I hope to retire to concentrate on the game full-time.

But what can I do?, leaving the Ukraine is impossible. I'm probably living a better life than some multi-millionaires!. Ok I don't have the big house, fleet of flash cars, servants, etc, but I don't need any of these.

What will become of me?!.................

I could find a girlfriend, but there is no way I could be faithful to her here.

Post: #2

Poor you. I can only imagine how tough it must be.
Where are you in the Ukraine... anything constructive to add to the ongoing Ukraine debate? Language barriers etc.

Post: #3

Haha, it is sometimes, it really is!.

Well it is fantastic here I must say, there is the language barrier issue for myself, but i'm learning. I have shagged girls that don't speak a word of English.

You got a lot of eye contact in the street which is nice, you even get it when they are with their boyfriends.

I mostly end up with the 18-22 age group, as many girls over that age are married, not complaining.

It's heaven, what else can I say?. I have an income that is considered decent back home, but here I am effectively living a millionaire's lifestyle.

I live in Kiev

Post: #4

(09-27-2011 02:47 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  Hi

I've been living in the Ukraine for a few months now, and I think the lifestyle i'm leading is making me sick in the head!.

I'm a pretty decent looking guy, and coupled with the fact I earn a pretty large income here, I am doing rather well here.

But I am trying to work today, and my head is scrambled, I can't stop thinking about the bouncing breasts of this 18yr old girl I met last night. I can't think of anything apart from shagging, I only work to provide money to shag, and soon I hope to retire to concentrate on the game full-time.

But what can I do?, leaving the Ukraine is impossible. I'm probably living a better life than some multi-millionaires!. Ok I don't have the big house, fleet of flash cars, servants, etc, but I don't need any of these.

What will become of me?!.................

I could find a girlfriend, but there is no way I could be faithful to her here.

Quality problem.

Post: #5

(09-27-2011 07:36 AM)Johnny Milfquest Wrote:  

(09-27-2011 02:47 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  Hi

I've been living in the Ukraine for a few months now, and I think the lifestyle i'm leading is making me sick in the head!.

I'm a pretty decent looking guy, and coupled with the fact I earn a pretty large income here, I am doing rather well here.

But I am trying to work today, and my head is scrambled, I can't stop thinking about the bouncing breasts of this 18yr old girl I met last night. I can't think of anything apart from shagging, I only work to provide money to shag, and soon I hope to retire to concentrate on the game full-time.

But what can I do?, leaving the Ukraine is impossible. I'm probably living a better life than some multi-millionaires!. Ok I don't have the big house, fleet of flash cars, servants, etc, but I don't need any of these.

What will become of me?!.................

I could find a girlfriend, but there is no way I could be faithful to her here.

Quality problem.

Is teaching English profitable there?

Post: #6

(09-27-2011 07:40 AM)flashbang Wrote:  

(09-27-2011 07:36 AM)Johnny Milfquest Wrote:  

(09-27-2011 02:47 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  Hi

I've been living in the Ukraine for a few months now, and I think the lifestyle i'm leading is making me sick in the head!.

I'm a pretty decent looking guy, and coupled with the fact I earn a pretty large income here, I am doing rather well here.

But I am trying to work today, and my head is scrambled, I can't stop thinking about the bouncing breasts of this 18yr old girl I met last night. I can't think of anything apart from shagging, I only work to provide money to shag, and soon I hope to retire to concentrate on the game full-time.

But what can I do?, leaving the Ukraine is impossible. I'm probably living a better life than some multi-millionaires!. Ok I don't have the big house, fleet of flash cars, servants, etc, but I don't need any of these.

What will become of me?!.................

I could find a girlfriend, but there is no way I could be faithful to her here.

Quality problem.

Is teaching English profitable there?

From what i've heard, I wouldn't say it's profitable, but quite a comfortable income. Plus there are many other "fringe benefits"

Post: #7

(09-27-2011 07:44 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

(09-27-2011 07:40 AM)flashbang Wrote:  

(09-27-2011 07:36 AM)Johnny Milfquest Wrote:  

(09-27-2011 02:47 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  Hi

I've been living in the Ukraine for a few months now, and I think the lifestyle i'm leading is making me sick in the head!.

I'm a pretty decent looking guy, and coupled with the fact I earn a pretty large income here, I am doing rather well here.

But I am trying to work today, and my head is scrambled, I can't stop thinking about the bouncing breasts of this 18yr old girl I met last night. I can't think of anything apart from shagging, I only work to provide money to shag, and soon I hope to retire to concentrate on the game full-time.

But what can I do?, leaving the Ukraine is impossible. I'm probably living a better life than some multi-millionaires!. Ok I don't have the big house, fleet of flash cars, servants, etc, but I don't need any of these.

What will become of me?!.................

I could find a girlfriend, but there is no way I could be faithful to her here.

Quality problem.

Is teaching English profitable there?

From what i've heard, I wouldn't say it's profitable, but quite a comfortable income. Plus there are many other "fringe benefits"

Fringe benefits also spice up a job. I'm thinking either Ukraine/Poland or Thailand/Asia for a working holiday. Your post has me leaning on the former.

Post: #8

I have friends that are teaching here and also in Poland.

Thailand is good fun, though it's not as cheap as it was. Thai girls are cute, but E Europeans are the best for me.

Post: #9

(09-27-2011 02:47 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  I hope to retire to concentrate on the game full-time.

I have the opposite problem as you. I'm going full-time chasing girls and trying to pickup a freelance project so that I can have a more balanced life here in Ukraine.

(09-27-2011 02:47 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  What will become of me?!.................

If you are like me, you will start to get bored of the kinds of girls you are currently getting and then start focusing on higher quality.

Congrats on your success with the girl with nice breasts.

Johnny, I heard about an English teacher in Kharkov who makes $560 a month. That's enough to live but you wont be going out much. It's easy to spend $40 on a weekend night going out here.

Post: #10

(09-27-2011 02:47 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  Hi

I've been living in the Ukraine for a few months now, and I think the lifestyle i'm leading is making me sick in the head!.

I'm a pretty decent looking guy, and coupled with the fact I earn a pretty large income here, I am doing rather well here.

But I am trying to work today, and my head is scrambled, I can't stop thinking about the bouncing breasts of this 18yr old girl I met last night. I can't think of anything apart from shagging, I only work to provide money to shag, and soon I hope to retire to concentrate on the game full-time.

But what can I do?, leaving the Ukraine is impossible. I'm probably living a better life than some multi-millionaires!. Ok I don't have the big house, fleet of flash cars, servants, etc, but I don't need any of these.

What will become of me?!.................

I could find a girlfriend, but there is no way I could be faithful to her here.

O my god, having lots of money and banging hot Ukraine girls and living a better life than some multi milllionaires. Your life sucks. Its even worse than mine. Im havent worked for 2.5 years now and only travel around the world and bang chicks of all nationalities. I think i should hang myself

Im going to Brazil now for 6 weeks. O the horror !!

Post: #11

Same here - looking forward for some full-time work and part-time banging, though I wouldn't mind the reverse!

Post: #12

It happened to me a few years back in S.E. Asia, after doing all my fantasies, 3somes, 4somes, sex slaves, whatever (I will save from you the hard core details) whenever I wanted, as much as I wanted.
Then I found myself asking: now what?
So you obviously have a few more interests and hobbies in life other than girls- check there.

Post: #13

(09-27-2011 02:47 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  my head is scrambled, I can't stop thinking about the bouncing breasts of this 18yr old girl I met last night.

I don't speak from a clinical view, but you may have come down with a bad case of being straight and below the age of 80.

Post: #14

Why do you think actors and musicians end up doing coke and overdosing themselves all the way to the hospital/morgue?

Getting it all, even if it means women on demand, just makes you wonder.....is that it?

Post: #15

(09-27-2011 02:47 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  Hi

I've been living in the Ukraine for a few months now, and I think the lifestyle i'm leading is making me sick in the head!.

I'm a pretty decent looking guy, and coupled with the fact I earn a pretty large income here, I am doing rather well here.

But I am trying to work today, and my head is scrambled, I can't stop thinking about the bouncing breasts of this 18yr old girl I met last night. I can't think of anything apart from shagging, I only work to provide money to shag, and soon I hope to retire to concentrate on the game full-time.

But what can I do?, leaving the Ukraine is impossible. I'm probably living a better life than some multi-millionaires!. Ok I don't have the big house, fleet of flash cars, servants, etc, but I don't need any of these.

What will become of me?!.................

I could find a girlfriend, but there is no way I could be faithful to her here.

What's your formula for success in Ukraine? It's a tough nut to bust....

Post: #16

The reports I've heard about Ukraine are actually the opposite. It's a pretty tough place. The girls are somewhat conservative/coy and there's quite a few guys around since there's no real military service.

Of course, good-looking tall guys don't have problems anywhere.

Post: #17

I actually can appreciate your situation. I married the first girl I ever kissed (yes, its true). She cheated on me, and we divorced 14 years ago. Yadda, yahha, I am now a 50 year old man with a 7 figure annual income and its has fucked with my head. I used to put women on a pedestal and now I lose interest before I even pull out (seriously - that is true too). I am not sure if I am living the dream or seriously fucked up. I just banged an 18 year old in Tallinn my first night here and I am not sure if I should be happy or sad. I know - its fucked up. I love this Roosh forum, I just think I spent too much time in catholic schools.

Post: #18

(06-18-2014 08:13 PM)ohionukes Wrote:  I actually can appreciate your situation. I married the first girl I ever kissed (yes, its true). She cheated on me, and we divorced 14 years ago. Yadda, yahha, I am now a 50 year old man with a 7 figure annual income and its has fucked with my head. I used to put women on a pedestal and now I lose interest before I even pull out (seriously - that is true too). I am not sure if I am living the dream or seriously fucked up. I just banged an 18 year old in Tallinn my first night here and I am not sure if I should be happy or sad. I know - its fucked up. I love this Roosh forum, I just think I spent too much time in catholic schools.

That must be a RooshV forum record, a 50 year old member bangs an 18 year old. Can you please enlighten us how that happened? Was it day/night game, social circle game (as tough as that might be to believe) or online game?

Post: #19

(06-18-2014 08:35 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 08:13 PM)ohionukes Wrote:  I actually can appreciate your situation. I married the first girl I ever kissed (yes, its true). She cheated on me, and we divorced 14 years ago. Yadda, yahha, I am now a 50 year old man with a 7 figure annual income and its has fucked with my head. I used to put women on a pedestal and now I lose interest before I even pull out (seriously - that is true too). I am not sure if I am living the dream or seriously fucked up. I just banged an 18 year old in Tallinn my first night here and I am not sure if I should be happy or sad. I know - its fucked up. I love this Roosh forum, I just think I spent too much time in catholic schools.

That must be a RooshV forum record, a 50 year old member bangs an 18 year old. Can you please enlighten us how that happened? Was it day/night game, social circle game (as tough as that might be to believe) or online game?

I emailed a girl on OK cupid, just asked her what clubs in Tallinn are good for EDM. This is my opening line, just to see if there is any interest. She told me she was out with her friends and I should join them, but that she had to leave cuz she had to get up early. OK, WTF, I had no other plans, so I met two of her friends out for drinks. Both are blonde and russian. I assume they just want me to buy them drinks so they could have a cheap night out. I knew this going in, I figured I would buy the ho's drinks. have a good time, and then I would go back to my apt and whack off.

The one who speaks very good english is very aggressive, constantly touching me, then she starts kissing me on the cheek. I actually am more attracted to her friend, but I figured I should play the odds and start teasing the shit out of the girl (touching the inner thigh but not the crouch, etc). Yadda, yadda - insanely easy fuck. I got an apt in old town for $110 a night (an 8 min walk from the bar we were at) - I am not sure if it helped but it surely didn't heard.

FYI - at EXACTLY 10pm, the grocery stores can not sell you alcohol. I was there at 5 seconds past 10. I was so pissed - it is so hard to invite a girl back to the apt for a glass of orange juice or coke light. So far, a lot of girls I have met are DTF. I will try to update late - I am freckin' tired.

PS - I will admit, I have no day game but I am trying to learn. I have just internet and club game. I think tonight was a fluke. If and when I get another flag I would recommend Tallinn.

Post: #20

Thanks for giving us young lads something worth to look for in our not so far future older age.

BTW what was the bar you were hanging out at?

Post: #21

(06-19-2014 01:48 AM)Doc_J Wrote:  Thanks for giving us young lads something worth to look for in our not so far future older age.

BTW what was the bar you were hanging out at?

The place literally said "Baar" over the door, right next to a bar called Protest, and a youth hostel I would definitely not recommend the bar I went to. Me and the 2 girls were literally the only customers there and the drinks were over priced. I have about 12 different bars/clubs on my list to check out so I will post a report when I am done.

Post: #22

(06-19-2014 06:09 AM)ohionukes Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 01:48 AM)Doc_J Wrote:  Thanks for giving us young lads something worth to look for in our not so far future older age.

BTW what was the bar you were hanging out at?

The place literally said "Baar" over the door, right next to a bar called Protest, and a youth hostel I would definitely not recommend the bar I went to. Me and the 2 girls were literally the only customers there and the drinks were over priced. I have about 12 different bars/clubs on my list to check out so I will post a report when I am done.

Ohio, do you ever worry that you are too old to fit into many of these bars and feel out of your social circle when you step in and it's all 18-22 year old University Students. I know you mentioned banging the 18 year old but that was via online game and not social circle...
I am 35 years old and even at my age nowaday's when I travel I am forced to do a bit of research so as to avoid the places where the age factor is too big to comfortably overcome.

Post: #23

(06-19-2014 09:33 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 06:09 AM)ohionukes Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 01:48 AM)Doc_J Wrote:  Thanks for giving us young lads something worth to look for in our not so far future older age.

BTW what was the bar you were hanging out at?

The place literally said "Baar" over the door, right next to a bar called Protest, and a youth hostel I would definitely not recommend the bar I went to. Me and the 2 girls were literally the only customers there and the drinks were over priced. I have about 12 different bars/clubs on my list to check out so I will post a report when I am done.

Ohio, do you ever worry that you are too old to fit into many of these bars and feel out of your social circle when you step in and it's all 18-22 year old University Students. I know you mentioned banging the 18 year old but that was via online game and not social circle...
I am 35 years old and even at my age nowaday's when I travel I am forced to do a bit of research so as to avoid the places where the age factor is too big to comfortably overcome.

I definitely worry about that and try to do a lot of research ahead of time. I don't wear a suit, that would make me look even older, but I don't try to look or act like a 20 year old. I like EDM and club music (which means I can talk about it intelligently which gives me instant cool factor with girls who are into EDM), so I enjoy going for the music. One approach I use is to befriend a small group of guys that seem like nice kids. When they find out I am from america, they usually think that is pretty cool. Plus, they are just fun to party with. I am 50 but I look later 30s, so at least that helps a little.

Lets be honest, if a girl is at a club to sleep with a really young guy, I don't have much of a shot. Thats the reality most of the time. But if a girl is interested in an "older guy", being surrounded by nothing but 18-22 year old guys gives me value (unless of course the place is filled with old guys looking to score and then you will be lumped in with all the other creepers).

Who are the girls I hook up with? Surprisingly, it is not with girls in their 30s. Most girls in their 30s are still in denial about their plummeting value, and still cling to the belief that they can find another 30 something guy their age who will be their prince. And we all know this guys are looking for a 20 year old hard body. I get shot down by girls in their 30s a lot more than girls in their low 20s.

The girls I bang fall into two categories: smart girls tired of stupid guys their age, and alternative girls - girls with edge, probably tats, used to breaking societal norms, looking to try something different, maybe with daddy issues haha. So I look for these girls at the clubs - chicks with glasses, pushing the younger guys away on the dance floor, etc. I am very well educated so that gets me a lot play with these girls. Last night, I was at Club Hollywood in Tallinn and I had a 20 year 8+ walk up to me with her friend and she just bluntly asked me how old I was. I lied and said 40 since I can easily pull that off, and she didn't flinch and continued to chat me up. She was very aggressive, and I think she was the type of girl who liked more mature guys, so you never know. If I had a wing man, I think I could have closed on her, but I know she didn't want to leave her girlfriend. I am hoping for a random encounter tonight =)

Obviously, it gets harder when you get older, and you have to adjust. Your conversion ratio from club to sex will decrease. However, I am still amazed by the fact that as I get older (I have been in the game since I was 35) the age of the girls I hook up with hasn't changed. Personally, I would rather go home alone than bang a girl over 30 (unless she was a 8+), and I won't touch anything over 40. Quality means a lot more to me than quantity.

Thanks for the question - I was planning on open a new thread on this topic to compare notes with others, you just beat me to the punch.

Post: #24

+1 from me for that honest answer. Seeing guys like you still be able to pull women half your age makes me feel like I should stop bitching about age and just go out more. Not sure if I have the energy anymore for EMD clubs but I think lounges and wine bars are where it's at. I will be in Vilnius, Lithuania in August for business and pleasure and that will be my strategy.

Post: #25

I live a very healthy lifestyle (at least my eating and drinking habits, and I don't smoke cigarettes and rarely thc unfortunately since its hard to come by in China). I don't have any issue with being in clubs and interacting with young women, though thats function of being in Asia, or being in NYC when I am there (where the girls in the high end clubs I'd visit are mostly from overseas, are models, and are used to older guys)>

That being said, what I find it difficult to do now is to force keeping going to late hours unless something specifically has peaked my interest (targets, conversation, etc.) and even more, going out several nights in a row, which I used to do religiously in NYC back in my early thirties.