Post: #276

"nah they didn't" is not an argument. As I said, you're a anti Islam sperg and so any slight defense of them you perceive as globalism /leftism/anti white hatred etc.

This isn't about the Quran, sperg. Read up on the Oslo accords and the rejection of the two state solution by the US and Israel. They've been doing it for decades.

Post: #277

Your only fucking arguments come down to insulting me, eh? That's the right kind of argumentative tactic around here recently.

Post: #278

(09-08-2018 09:06 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(09-08-2018 02:35 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  < Gulf-Arab Muslims are not r-selected. Polygamy itself is usually k-selected if you have to be rich to have many wives. This used to be the case in countries like China as well up until recently. Child-rearing is a different issue because often especially the male children are growing up without any discipline and this is not positive. Easy C likely referred to that. And I have had some experiences with that myself with traveling wealthy Muslims and their children - they are some of the hotel staff's greatest nuisance around the world.

The Muslim world is rather more hampered by the still going strong 40-50% inbreeding rates and the lack of vitamin D3 for women - as well as fasting during pregnancy. Those 3 factors lower their IQs by an estimated 10-15 points. Essentially they constantly shoot themselves in both feet and try running as fast as the West - impossible with those limitations.

It's also been studied academically, and they found that polygamous societies (which means "muslim" in this day and age) struggle economically because men invest their resources into obtaining additional females while generally ignoring any resource investments into their existing spawn.

That's basically the definition of those two reproductive strategies. They rely on quantity over quality and as a result generally fail to make the investments necessary to produce doctors, engineers, or other kinds of people capable of producing positive societal change.

You can forget about doctors and engineers in big numbers when you marry your first cousins by rates of 40%.

Generally polygamous societies are shit - the men without a woman either resort to long periods of involuntary celibacy or they go out and are aggressive, wage warfare etc.

Whether creative output is restrained by the top-tier of men dealing with 4 wives and 30 children - well that could be an argument too. The Aztecs had a terrible system and ridiculously class-based where the bottom 60% of men got no women at all. Men without women or family work only at 10% capacity. And when the upper 10% of men are busy with harems of 4 wives and 50 slave girls, then who knows - that is probably not overly positive. It fosters however a desire of the bottom 80% to constantly wage warfare and get new women - something which was used well in Islam.

The Mormons made it work successfully because they were a small part of a larger monogamous culture and could poach women from around the world - if the entire country had done this, then it would be a disaster.

Nah - best is a monogamous one-man-one-woman system with the top-tier of men at best engaging in various seduction, official concubines with whores and legal prostitution creating a general outlet-valve for the rest of men. That seems to be the best avenue for human civilization.

Post: #279

(09-08-2018 08:25 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(09-08-2018 07:58 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Sure they may have been there but their headquarters was Europe if we're talking about recent history. Look, it sucks what happened to the Palestinians but I guess might is right. You have to fight for your territory.

I also think that we should retake Constantinople for the West, also kick them out of the whole of North Africa - if you go by the same Palestinian logic.

Hebrews floated around a few ideas for a new Israel - one state of the US, Madagascar etc. They decided for their ancient most prominent historical homeland.

It was sparsely populated before Jewish money and settlers started to pour in the 19th century and reinvigorated it. Sure - it had been conquered a long a time ago.

But Muslims have rejected various peace treaties and two-state solutions in the last 30 years - some of them giving them more land than they have now. The Muslims want all and they won't accept Israel at all.

Many guys on the Alt-Right don't see anything wrong with Israel wanting to have a homeland. They rather point to the JQ in terms of war-meddling in the Middle East and using manipulated Big Brother USA to mop up their potential enemies. That is far worse than wanting to have your homecountry.

I personally don't mind having a huge-ass border wall and shooting at aggressive invaders. Everyone should be doing that. The problem starts only when they want to have that for themselves, but deny it to the goys.

Yeah the truth about politics is if you can take and hold territory it is yours. If Israel has no right to it's land maybe we should give America back to the Indians.

My problem is the US backing Israeli land claims, when it may be better to allow Israel to stand on it's own two feet and if the country is turned to glass so be it, not our problem.

Post: #280

What i dont get is Ashkenazi jews like Jared Kushner, Lenin, Amy Schumer etc. If you saw them on the street you would think they are white. How can white looking jews be anti white?

Post: #281

< As I noted before and as also mentioned Frame Games - they are White and Jewish, but somehow managed to convince themselves in their cult-thinking that they are not white.

They even call blonde Jews Aryan Jews jokingly and the look is actually quite popular among them - women run after such Anglo-Saxon-Nordic-looking Jews like crazy.

So it's more cult thinking - just a dangerous one for the host country over time, because they are people who look like you, who call themselves "fellow Whites", but then behind your back call you stupid goy.

Frame Games is at least honest in that respect. Their genome is not that much different than Hungarians vs Germans. It's even possible that the previous symptomatic look of Jews that have become memes were just caused by too much excessive inbreeding - even if that inbreeding was IQ focused. That disappeared with simple fresh diverse blood infusion. (and also massive input of other European and American gentiles)


That is hardly seen anymore - Andre Kostalany - Austrian-Hungarian famous investor.


That guy looks like Mormon from the bible belt.

Post: #282

^^^
Mr Burns and Smithers

Post: #283

(09-08-2018 03:48 PM)Pride male Wrote:  What i dont get is Ashkenazi jews like Jared Kushner, Lenin, Amy Schumer etc. If you saw them on the street you would think they are white. How can white looking jews be anti white?

They are great arguers, and this sort of thing is just a challenge to them. Can I be white today and Jewish tomorrow? Yes. OK. Now how about if I can be white at the beginning of this argument and then Jewish at the end?

It is no accident that Frame Games chose the name he did.

Here is a video where he criticizes Alan Dershowitz.





Dershowitz has double standards.

In his mind, Jews can criticize whoever they want, but other people, if they are going to criticize the Jews, have to criticize everyone else too or they have double standards.

Frame Games rightly calls him out.

Dershowitz is criticizing other people for having doubles standards while in the same breath having double standards himself.

This is pretty much the World Cup trophy of rhetoric. Can you do something and then convince the listener that everyone but you is doing the thing you are doing.

If you can then yo win, champ. He could make Kona hate Spam.

(I recommend any video that has Frame Games in it. He is exposing the Jewish mentality and its tactics all over the place. Matzoh pilling right and left.)

Post: #284

Frame Games Red-Pilled me more on Jewish tactics than anyone else - he sees the slight-of-hand better than most of us. I get it that some "woke" guys on the right say that they "saw it too", but most of them just blindly reject anything coming from Jewish mouths which is no rational argument. It's better to be aware of what the political side of the tribe is doing and why they are doing it - for example:





Theater plays in NYC subway - individualism for thee goy - collectivism for me.

It's literally the double standard - "IDENTITY IS AN ILLUSION" - name of the work for the goys and by the same fucking author for the chosen people: "THE STARS OF DAVID". The second play will be of course about the strong unifying Jewish identity and pride.

Or this tangential topic going into the hip British Indian guy who is oh-so happy and cool about Britain becoming diverse: "What possibly can you have against diversity, mate?"





We are seeing through all your bullshit - anything that destroys the White Western nation states is cool and hip.

Post: #285

If anyone wants to see these tactics in action, there is an excellent video where Frame Games debates a Jewish guy named David, who takes the usual Jewish views. It is really long, and I am only watching it in small doses because it is so annoying, but you can hear in real time Frame Games abandon the traditional Jewish tactics to try to engage with this guy in a good faith intellectual discussion, and in response, this guy pulls out all the stops, spending some of his time debating issues, but also ignoring points that don't help him, acting like a superior mind being patient, being stubborn about issues that anyone would say are obvious, demanding more clarification or explanation on things that have been already explained, taking the fake moral high ground, I mean, the guy has a million weapons at his disposal, which anyone one would if all you wanted to do was appear to be right, to win, and were willing to do anything to appear that way.

It is a kind of Jew vs. Jew, Alien vs. Predator death match that is extremely instructive, and valuable to anyone who wants to learn how to make a good verbal stand for their arguments. In fact, this annoying, and let's say it, subversive dude actually gets under Frame Games skin and appears to be winning some of the time because of it.

In a different video, Frame Games explained that sometimes you are having a good faith debate, and other times you are just scoring points, and what Jews do is oscillate back and forth between the two without warning and it immobilizes their opponents. One minute you have the better arguments, the next you insinuate your opponent is literally Hitler, and if you can do it smoothly and imperceptibly, it basically scrambles the mind of the other person.

This guy debating Frame Games though, quite a piece of work. He has every underhanded tactic at his disposal and no problem using them. This video is extremely instructive.

I seem to always have had Jewish people in my family in one way or another, and after listening to FG as well as watching this video, it is like the scales fell from my eyes and I suddenly understood why I was always out-manned in discussions with them. Extremely practical as well as instructive:

Post: #286

This debate reminded me of how I listened to the 160 IQ black guy Renegade of Funk talk with a black American-Brazilian about White nation states and that freshly minted American guy blabbered on about the US having the wonderful option of becoming Brazil. The guy literally assumed that just because they share the same race/are black, that he would get full support behind his wonderful open-borders-notion. Meanwhile the Renegade later just disengaged from the moronic discussion, said that even speaking with a guy like that gives him cancer and the other bloke was deeply offended hearing this from such an obviously smart and distinguished black man who he actually looks up to.

But that is a discussion on an unequal playing field - Frame Games usually has to debate far smarter opponents who pull every trick in the book and make their insane viewpoints just appear sane while in reality they are not.

Post: #287

Discussions between two Jewish youtubers is actually a microcosm of our media - jews debating other jews and controlling both sides of the debate

Either way they win. It's like Trump. Even though there are huge numbers of liberal Jews who can't stand him and hate his patriotism and conservatism, they are placated by the fact that his administration is chock full of their co-ethnics who will promote their agenda one way or another.

Post: #288

(09-08-2018 03:48 PM)Pride male Wrote:  What i dont get is Ashkenazi jews like Jared Kushner, Lenin, Amy Schumer etc. If you saw them on the street you would think they are white. How can white looking jews be anti white?

I know I am risking belaboring the point, but here is a Frame Game Radio video, a shorter one, that directly addresses your question.

Short answer: Jews want white people to hate themselves so they give away their power to people like the Jews, but they can't say that, unless they pretend to be white, and then they can go all 'mea culpa,' 'It's on us!' 'Fellow white people, we have to do better!' and then when white people give away their power, they can go back to being Jews.

Post: #289

(09-08-2018 04:05 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  
That guy looks like Mormon from the bible belt.

No he doesn't, he is an easily spotted jew.

It's very easy to tell who is a jew, except the many who are mixed, such as Harrison Ford.

Post: #290

(09-09-2018 01:13 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  what Jews do is oscillate back and forth between the two without warning and it immobilizes their opponents. One minute you have the better arguments, the next you insinuate your opponent is literally Hitler

And people wonder why marxism and leftism gets confused with jewry?

Post: #291

(09-09-2018 02:39 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(09-08-2018 04:05 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  That guy looks like Mormon from the bible belt.

No he doesn't, he is an easily spotted jew.

It's very easy to tell who is a jew, except the many who are mixed, such as Harrison Ford.

Those half-Cubans look all alike to me.

Post: #292

I don't care how they look. From now on I will judge people solely on underhanded debate tactics.

Post: #293

(09-09-2018 02:43 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(09-09-2018 02:39 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(09-08-2018 04:05 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  That guy looks like Mormon from the bible belt.

No he doesn't, he is an easily spotted jew.

It's very easy to tell who is a jew, except the many who are mixed, such as Harrison Ford.

Those half-Cubans look all alike to me.

Low set ears, sullen yellowish skin, but would be revealed the instant he spoke. Jews are not natural speakers of any european language.

Post: #294

Sara Paxton - mother's maiden name Zuckerman and father converted:



Let's leave the looks aside - the Portuguese were up until recently the least good-looking tribe in Europe, but I wouldn't call them non-European. The looks vary quite strongly from Greece to Norway from localized tribes.

I just don't feel like going into questionable arguments.

Also this idea that you either go full-on-genocide or expulsion or nothing at all is ridiculous. That worked so well during Hitler's time eh? The people were zero wiser afterwards with now prominent German Jews promoting the genocide of the Germans while the people have still no clue. If Hitler had instead chosen to take such guys like Frame Games as his allies in order to Red Pill the Germans, then this would have been much better.

There is nothing at all won by simply rejecting men like Frame Games and his input just because he is Jewish. So the next best thing is genocide or what?

All you need is awareness - actually the latter without awareness serves no purpose and always backfires.

Better tread the path with tough love and reasonable understanding - all of course with an iron will of not wanting to be taken advantage of.

Post: #295

Clearly Hitler did not have any positive effect on this issue. If anything he made the traditional technique (expulsion) completely untenable politically (the general effect of the holocaust is that people have allowed themselves to elevate all Jews, the synagogue of satan, to sainthood.)

Post: #296

Plus - if I may add to it on the looks front. Anyone aware of the European countries can even differentiate between Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks, but also French, Germans, Slovaks, Hungarians, Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, Fins, Swedes or Norwegians. Each of those people have a certain look that is characteristic or shows up again and again. Of course you have many intra-European mixed ones and some tribes like the Swiss are a mix of the other tribes, but even they have become different now. So obviously Ashkenazi Jews as a rather distinct people within a gentile country have a different look - as if they were living in their own nation-state while among Europeans for 1000+ years.

The "typical Jewish look" is frankly not relevant to the JQ similar to whether the typical Finnish or Italian look is so important. Yes - you see some Italian roots with some even after multiple generations and I guess it may be similar to some Ashkenazis. But this desire to separate them serves only their own ideas and I am sure that many of their Zionist leaders want exactly that, in fact foster that kind of thinking since it facilitates the very same actions that we criticize here.

To me it's as if all Italians were attempting to behave like the mafia with only full-blooded Sicilians being able to be accepted as made men, while everyone else was preaching the "fellow American" talk and circumventing the power-structure of the US.

Post: #297

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda...st-denial/

This is incredible. Unz.com is one the best sites on the net.

Post: #298

(09-09-2018 12:42 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Frame Games Red-Pilled me more on Jewish tactics than anyone else - he sees the slight-of-hand better than most of us. I get it that some "woke" guys on the right say that they "saw it too", but most of them just blindly reject anything coming from Jewish mouths which is no rational argument. It's better to be aware of what the political side of the tribe is doing and why they are doing it - for example:





Theater plays in NYC subway - individualism for thee goy - collectivism for me.

It's literally the double standard - "IDENTITY IS AN ILLUSION" - name of the work for the goys and by the same fucking author for the chosen people: "THE STARS OF DAVID". The second play will be of course about the strong unifying Jewish identity and pride.

Or this tangential topic going into the hip British Indian guy who is oh-so happy and cool about Britain becoming diverse: "What possibly can you have against diversity, mate?"





We are seeing through all your bullshit - anything that destroys the White Western nation states is cool and hip.

I think that the European laws governing Ashkenazim back in the day that confined them to merchants and moneychanger roles instead of ensuring that they stuck to blue collar work like in Eastern Europe where they had a much wider range or roles. Really selected for this duplicity.

What better way of selecting for verbal gymnastics than confining Ashkenazim to those professions and ensuing only the best merchants and moneychangers are able to have children.

Its a problem that Europeans have exacerbated or create if it wasn't a problem before

Post: #299

(09-09-2018 01:25 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Discussions between two Jewish youtubers is actually a microcosm of our media - jews debating other jews and controlling both sides of the debate

Either way they win. It's like Trump. Even though there are huge numbers of liberal Jews who can't stand him and hate his patriotism and conservatism, they are placated by the fact that his administration is chock full of their co-ethnics who will promote their agenda one way or another.

Is there anyway to tie their group's interests with our interests?

Post: #300

(09-09-2018 10:52 PM)Longshanks Wrote:  https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda...st-denial/

This is incredible. Unz.com is one the best sites on the net.

Damn... Read this, hour long article.

Off topic (and not terribly serious)... What if Hitler was the world's leading Rabbi... Putting Christians to death by the millions, claiming they were Jews to replace Christianity as the religion of the west with crypto Judaism and holocaust worship.