Post: #26

(05-12-2018 09:57 PM)destiny Wrote:  

(05-12-2018 05:17 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 03:22 PM)destiny Wrote:  what the hell is this nonense?

Sorry bro, im going to go in on you too, you need it.

First ill give you some actionable advice:

1)stop masturbating

2)stop watching porn

3)get in the fucking gym and LIFT

LIFT = LIFTING some fucking weights!

4) read rooshs books Bang and Day Bang

5) if you are overweight, consider water fasting, if you are under weight... eat more. For both, you need to Continue lifting

6) check out the Greyskull Variant Beginner lifting program, if you cant do squats due to mobility issues, use the box squat machine, leg press, and or leg curl for legs, then get the book "Becoming a Supple leopard by Kelly Starett"

7) look in the life section of the forum for tips on how to make money and financial independence. Make financial independence your long term goal.

8)practice game. First an hour a week, for a few months, then an hour every other day for a few months, then an hour a day.

9)think of a funnel with holes in it at certain point. The funnel is filled from approaching women, the holes are the women that will disppear, your job is to

a)patch those holes as much as possible (by doing what the fuck I just said above. . .especially lifting)

b)keep that funnel full of women passing through.

10)keep reading the game sections of the forums, stop posting for a while and read. read rooshs book over and over till you get it. do all the above.

11)this will take 1-2 years, shows us your progress in two years. You will become a sex God if you do it right.

12)This is the last time I wanna see you post shit like this, you need to be RUTHLESS, but that only happens once you experience abundance. You need to get Abundance, but that only happens if you work for it, hell Im still working on that stage myself! I often double triple book dates on weekends, if one chick doesn't want to bang on a date after an hour and a half, well I got another date on the way after I boot her the fuck out of my house.

13)Men. Be a MAN, connect with that MAN you are. You are one of us, we arent nice, we LEAD, CONTROL, and DOMINATE. Start doing this. . . today.

14) oh if I havent said this before. . LIFT WEIGHTS GOD DAMNIT!

15)come back to us two years, and show us the GOD you have become, you can definitely do this


I did not read all that Bitch shit you wrote, you gotta do better than this man, it makes me hurt inside when I see a perfectly grown man writing books on some `crush` So much time wasted!

Trust me, there's no abundance in Toronto and being an east asian guy, your seen with disgust. There's a reason why there's one of the largest pua scenes here in toronto. Just head downtown around the eaton center and you will be at least a dozen dudes doing cold approaches. I did that shit here for over a 1 year 4 years ago, I saw very minimum results, however it gave me tremendous results as soon as I went abroad and left this shithole city. That's the only positive thing I could say about doing daygame here.

Also all of those things you listed, I have done that for years now, I have been lifting weights for well over a decade now. daygame? I did close to a 1000 approaches here in Toronto. It got me no where but the skill became invaluable abroad. If I was in poland or another country like vietnam, I could literally go outside and approach 20-30 chicks and I would walk away with at least 5 numbers and several dates. I did just that in my travel journal which I documented. Do that same stuff here in Toronto, forget it!

Dating books and manuals? I must have read something between 1-2 dozen seduction books. I've read all of the roosh country bang guides.

I did online/nightgame all that shit. You name it, I most likely have done it here in this city. I even signed up for close to a dozen clubs and went to nearly every social event organized by my program while I was attending university. Online I would get practically no matches except for 200 lb landwhales divorced tattooed up single mothers. In fact, I still think I have a pic of that women.

Fashion and all of that stuff I pretty much covered. I spend several grand on new clothes and still update my wardrobe and people have complemented me about how fashionable I look and even try to copy my style.

I live in the suburbs and no way in hell am I gonna pay nearly 2 grand just for a 1 bedroom apartment so I could be downtown and even then the logistics are horrible. Everything is scattered across the city and targets are not abundant at all. If you think going to a heavily populated area to game girls, well goodluck because it's been overrun by pua guys who have probably hit on that girl 3-4 times already. The bitch shields are real!

I don't want to seem like I'm whining or complaining but believe me I have definitely done my fair share of work in this shithole city. The sex ratios are skewed in women's favour and the attitude and flakeyiness is horrible. I had to tell some troll looking hong kong women in her late 30's to get lost after she tried to grab frame and have me go drive to her neck of the woods to watch a movie after she flaked on me the first time.

Most of my friends are either unmarried and single or married to 30+ year old fatties. Your only bet here would probably be the fobs and new immigrants. I even tried to niche out and targeted girls at meetup.com, internations, etc. The last straw was church targeting chinese girls in the markham area and went a few times to look for potential targets. The churches in my area in my niche target had no girls my age except seniors and familes. It's not even worth the time and effort anymore. I've given up on this fucking city for good.

Making money and finances? I'm currently pursuing this option so that I could get the fuck outta this city. I've read well over a dozen business books (rich dad, poor dad, I will teach you to be rich, the millionaire next door, FU money, the millionaire fastlane, etc. That's why I've been focusing mainly on this for the last year or so. I've been biding my time saving up cash but it gets loney here. All this online chicks from abroad I was pipelining before my trip. However, I didn't expect to develop oneitis for one of them. I have written a non-fiction book which is about 95% complete and in the process of launching a youtube channel so that I could monetize it along with a whole slew of other online income generating ideas. My goal is to have multiple streams of online income and not to rely on one. The sum total would be equal or greater then the average salary here.

I've put in close to 9 months of learning Vietnamese now and still continue to study it to prepare for my permanent departure from this cesspool of a city.

The odds are tremendously stacked against you here, despite your best efforts. Believe me I put in more then my fair share of effort, just go have a look at my travel journal. I approached something like 100 or more chicks in a span of two months and had close to 2 dozen numbers and went on several dates there. It would take me a years to get anywhere near those results here. There comes a point where you ask yourself whether or not the lemon is worth the squeeze (ROI) for your efforts here and the answer is no. However, it has helped molded me into a much better man then before, the only problem is a lack of dating experience due to a scarcity of women and opportunity. The only last saving grace I could see is making this online income source a reality.

Online Income:
It's good that you're pursuing income alternatives, but it is not as straightforward as you seem to be implying. You need a big following on Youtube to make good money. If you have a great idea around an area of expertise it's possible, but it could take years to build up if you aren't investing money or producing content that is really turning heads.

How do you plan to get tens to hundreds of thousands of followers? I would work hard to get these businesses profitable enough to cover your expenses before moving abroad. Banking on e-book sales and Youtube to cover your expenses when you're starting from nothing is going to be a stressful uphill battle.

Post: #27

(05-16-2018 07:00 PM)destiny Wrote:  Ya the problem I think is that I think women will make me happy just because I never really had a gf my whole life. It's tough seeing others being relationships and you being left behind. I've never had the opportunity to experience that so when I met this girl, I guess my mind was fixated on her filling that hole inside of me that is empty.

Destiny you have to understand one thing.

A woman will never fill that hole inside you (no pun intended of course).

YOU need to fill that emptyness with your own self.

Who cares if you'v never really had a girlfriend your whole life.

A woman isn't going to solve any of your own problems, you need to work on yourself.

Who cares if people are in relationships or are married.

What you don't see is what happens behind closed doors, they might be miserable or a shitty situation or not truly as happy as they can be.

Couples love to front about their lives on social media.

Being a player can be a heaven and purgatory - it comes with the territory.

Quote:I realize women are not always the answer to my problems. I look at my father and he looks miserable with my mother. She's always causing problems and they are always arguing and she is always telling him to do this or that. I didn't want to be in that type of relationship which made me hesitant to commit fully to this girl yet until I had met her and we had known each other for a while but then I felt cornered into making a decision. I felt if I didn't do something I would lose her forever, lose my only opportunity to have female companionship. All this time I was focused on women being my main goal but instead I should have had the attitude that I am my main goal and that she is just joining me for the ride because she likes what she sees.

See you had a first hand experience how women can be an issue for a man, and how relationships can suck.

About this girl, bro you have to have ZERO expectations until you meet a woman and get to know her a bit. That's literally how I am with everyone woman I meet.

EXACTLY you're getting it now! She's along for the ride on your journey through life.

Quote:I come from a very dysfunctional Asian family. Both of my younger sisters no longer talk to my parents and I hardly ever do as well because of the lack of emotional support we received when we were raised and even right now. Everything involves manipulation, and guilt trips to get what they want, never a praise, or anything from them. Me and my sisters don't actually even talk because when we do, we argue. Sometimes I wish my family was normal and I came from a loving family so that I wouldn't have all of these inner demons and self-esteem issues inside of me but you can't pick your parents and your just dealt the hand that your given.

Brother, I may not have siblings but I had a parent (one was out of the picture from when I was a child) who guilt tripped me and emotionally black mailed me, we don't talk much, and we when we do it always turns into an argument or a guilt trip.

I know exactly what you're talking about.

You can wish to have a caring normal nuclear family, but that's not the card we were dealt.

We have to deal with that and life, what we focus on is how we make things BETTER for ourselves and our lives.

Quote:This has probably been the hardest thing to conquer. I am really struggling with the self-love department because all my life people have been criticizing me, telling me I'm never good enough, whether that be my parents, close friends, or even women. This has made me a bit obsessive about fixing these problems. In the last 4 years I have become obsessive about self-improvement. I just throw myself out there trying to fix it throwing wild punches in any direction hoping to hit a weakness. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but that's all I know to do.

You don't need anyone else to have self love, that's why it's called SELF love.

Because fuck what everyone else thinks, you love yourself, and if they don't love you or like you fuck them (as long as you aren't a complete dick).

You shouldn't need to validate or qualify yourself to anyone else. You should be surrounding yourself with people who are successful, like minded, and want to better themselves.

STOP throwing wild punches and trying to guess your weaknesses.


BE more organized, bring order to the chaos in your life.

-Start writing down your strengths, what you're successful in.
-Start writing down your weaknesses, and you need to be better at.
-Start realizing whose good to hangout around and whose not.
-Start taking care of your body and mind
-Stay the course if you're financially succesful

You have a wealth of knowledge on this forum, you can write anything you think and feel about yourself and you have a huge group of men who help you sort them out.

Post: #28

(05-17-2018 07:15 AM)jcardial Wrote:  

(05-12-2018 09:57 PM)destiny Wrote:  

(05-12-2018 05:17 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 03:22 PM)destiny Wrote:  what the hell is this nonense?

Sorry bro, im going to go in on you too, you need it.

First ill give you some actionable advice:

1)stop masturbating

2)stop watching porn

3)get in the fucking gym and LIFT

LIFT = LIFTING some fucking weights!

4) read rooshs books Bang and Day Bang

5) if you are overweight, consider water fasting, if you are under weight... eat more. For both, you need to Continue lifting

6) check out the Greyskull Variant Beginner lifting program, if you cant do squats due to mobility issues, use the box squat machine, leg press, and or leg curl for legs, then get the book "Becoming a Supple leopard by Kelly Starett"

7) look in the life section of the forum for tips on how to make money and financial independence. Make financial independence your long term goal.

8)practice game. First an hour a week, for a few months, then an hour every other day for a few months, then an hour a day.

9)think of a funnel with holes in it at certain point. The funnel is filled from approaching women, the holes are the women that will disppear, your job is to

a)patch those holes as much as possible (by doing what the fuck I just said above. . .especially lifting)

b)keep that funnel full of women passing through.

10)keep reading the game sections of the forums, stop posting for a while and read. read rooshs book over and over till you get it. do all the above.

11)this will take 1-2 years, shows us your progress in two years. You will become a sex God if you do it right.

12)This is the last time I wanna see you post shit like this, you need to be RUTHLESS, but that only happens once you experience abundance. You need to get Abundance, but that only happens if you work for it, hell Im still working on that stage myself! I often double triple book dates on weekends, if one chick doesn't want to bang on a date after an hour and a half, well I got another date on the way after I boot her the fuck out of my house.

13)Men. Be a MAN, connect with that MAN you are. You are one of us, we arent nice, we LEAD, CONTROL, and DOMINATE. Start doing this. . . today.

14) oh if I havent said this before. . LIFT WEIGHTS GOD DAMNIT!

15)come back to us two years, and show us the GOD you have become, you can definitely do this


I did not read all that Bitch shit you wrote, you gotta do better than this man, it makes me hurt inside when I see a perfectly grown man writing books on some `crush` So much time wasted!

Trust me, there's no abundance in Toronto and being an east asian guy, your seen with disgust. There's a reason why there's one of the largest pua scenes here in toronto. Just head downtown around the eaton center and you will be at least a dozen dudes doing cold approaches. I did that shit here for over a 1 year 4 years ago, I saw very minimum results, however it gave me tremendous results as soon as I went abroad and left this shithole city. That's the only positive thing I could say about doing daygame here.

Also all of those things you listed, I have done that for years now, I have been lifting weights for well over a decade now. daygame? I did close to a 1000 approaches here in Toronto. It got me no where but the skill became invaluable abroad. If I was in poland or another country like vietnam, I could literally go outside and approach 20-30 chicks and I would walk away with at least 5 numbers and several dates. I did just that in my travel journal which I documented. Do that same stuff here in Toronto, forget it!

Dating books and manuals? I must have read something between 1-2 dozen seduction books. I've read all of the roosh country bang guides.

I did online/nightgame all that shit. You name it, I most likely have done it here in this city. I even signed up for close to a dozen clubs and went to nearly every social event organized by my program while I was attending university. Online I would get practically no matches except for 200 lb landwhales divorced tattooed up single mothers. In fact, I still think I have a pic of that women.

Fashion and all of that stuff I pretty much covered. I spend several grand on new clothes and still update my wardrobe and people have complemented me about how fashionable I look and even try to copy my style.

I live in the suburbs and no way in hell am I gonna pay nearly 2 grand just for a 1 bedroom apartment so I could be downtown and even then the logistics are horrible. Everything is scattered across the city and targets are not abundant at all. If you think going to a heavily populated area to game girls, well goodluck because it's been overrun by pua guys who have probably hit on that girl 3-4 times already. The bitch shields are real!

I don't want to seem like I'm whining or complaining but believe me I have definitely done my fair share of work in this shithole city. The sex ratios are skewed in women's favour and the attitude and flakeyiness is horrible. I had to tell some troll looking hong kong women in her late 30's to get lost after she tried to grab frame and have me go drive to her neck of the woods to watch a movie after she flaked on me the first time.

Most of my friends are either unmarried and single or married to 30+ year old fatties. Your only bet here would probably be the fobs and new immigrants. I even tried to niche out and targeted girls at meetup.com, internations, etc. The last straw was church targeting chinese girls in the markham area and went a few times to look for potential targets. The churches in my area in my niche target had no girls my age except seniors and familes. It's not even worth the time and effort anymore. I've given up on this fucking city for good.

Making money and finances? I'm currently pursuing this option so that I could get the fuck outta this city. I've read well over a dozen business books (rich dad, poor dad, I will teach you to be rich, the millionaire next door, FU money, the millionaire fastlane, etc. That's why I've been focusing mainly on this for the last year or so. I've been biding my time saving up cash but it gets loney here. All this online chicks from abroad I was pipelining before my trip. However, I didn't expect to develop oneitis for one of them. I have written a non-fiction book which is about 95% complete and in the process of launching a youtube channel so that I could monetize it along with a whole slew of other online income generating ideas. My goal is to have multiple streams of online income and not to rely on one. The sum total would be equal or greater then the average salary here.

I've put in close to 9 months of learning Vietnamese now and still continue to study it to prepare for my permanent departure from this cesspool of a city.

The odds are tremendously stacked against you here, despite your best efforts. Believe me I put in more then my fair share of effort, just go have a look at my travel journal. I approached something like 100 or more chicks in a span of two months and had close to 2 dozen numbers and went on several dates there. It would take me a years to get anywhere near those results here. There comes a point where you ask yourself whether or not the lemon is worth the squeeze (ROI) for your efforts here and the answer is no. However, it has helped molded me into a much better man then before, the only problem is a lack of dating experience due to a scarcity of women and opportunity. The only last saving grace I could see is making this online income source a reality.

Online Income:
It's good that you're pursuing income alternatives, but it is not as straightforward as you seem to be implying. You need a big following on Youtube to make good money. If you have a great idea around an area of expertise it's possible, but it could take years to build up if you aren't investing money or producing content that is really turning heads.

How do you plan to get tens to hundreds of thousands of followers? I would work hard to get these businesses profitable enough to cover your expenses before moving abroad. Banking on e-book sales and Youtube to cover your expenses when you're starting from nothing is going to be a stressful uphill battle.

Yes I looked into it believe me. I'm not purely relying on youtube ads to make money, to do that I would need at least half a million subscribers. It will be a combination of ad revenue, patreon, affiliate marketing, my own personal products, etc.

I'm not moving abroad permanently yet, this will be a sort of testing the waters type of thing. I am still returning back here to work and continue to invest in the business once my trip is completed unless I strike it rich. The type of things I need for the channel cannot be acquired here. Also your right about expertise area, I'm focusing on a specific niche, not a broad general topic. There is a woman here in canada, who films with just her shitty cellphone with crappy footage. All she does in her video is just eat food and say a few nonsense. Literally in one of her episodes, I saw her eating a carrot for like 20 minutes, yes a fucking carrot! Yet she has now over 70k subscribers. It's all about finding the right niche to put yourself in. Now I don't know if my niche will work but I'm willing to give it a shot since I did research on my competitors and there is far less competitors in this category and also there videos look like they could have been done better. I'm hoping to separate myself in the pack by offering value through high production value, great content, my own unique style and personality, coupled with good marketing. Hopefully that will be good enough to get me started.

I also think my expectations are realistic, I'm not looking to make a million bucks, at least not yet. I'm trying to hit $100 first on a regular basis then double that in 1-2 months, and continue up to $500-600 on a monthly basis. Since I only have about 5 months time to film, I will trying to film everyday or at least multiple times during a day in different shoots. This will generate me enough content to continue to upload for well over a year on youtube if I was releasing 1 video per week which seems to be the average on youtube. If I'm really trying to go all out then it'll be two videos a week.

There was an article that I read somewhere that said to make a six figure income, don't think of making thousands of dollars per a month but rather make something that generates you $1 a day and then do that multiple times until your making like around $300 per a day based on 300 passive income sources. That is the way I am looking at it. Create multiple sources of passive income that generates me $1 per a day. It takes a lot of the pressure off if you know you only need to create something that gets you $1 a day indefinitely.

Post: #29

Quote:See you had a first hand experience how women can be an issue for a man, and how relationships can suck.

About this girl, bro you have to have ZERO expectations until you meet a woman and get to know her a bit. That's literally how I am with everyone woman I meet.

EXACTLY you're getting it now! She's along for the ride on your journey through life.

Ya, the more and more experience I get with women, the less and less expectations I have for them. They never seem to keep their word and I figure eventually they will disappoint me. I should be adopting an attitude of zero fucks given with any girl and being indifferent towards them.

I guess in the future I should look at them that way, "your going to let me down at some point unless you can prove yourself otherwise. Anything you tell me is all bullshit until you show me that you can follow through with your actions."

Quote:You should be surrounding yourself with people who are successful, like minded, and want to better themselves.

This is another area that I need to work on. They say you are the 5 people that you surround yourself with. This means I need to surround myself with others who are like minded as myself. I haven't come across much people, however one of my new coworkers from work seems to share a similar view as me in regards to women and dating. I'm sure in journey I will encounter even more people like this that will help shape me to be the man that I was destined to become.

Quote:BE more organized, bring order to the chaos in your life.

-Start writing down your strengths, what you're successful in.
-Start writing down your weaknesses, and you need to be better at.
-Start realizing whose good to hangout around and whose not.
-Start taking care of your body and mind
-Stay the course if you're financially succesful

You have a wealth of knowledge on this forum, you can write anything you think and feel about yourself and you have a huge group of men who help you sort them out.

this sounds like a really good idea. Thanks, I'm gonna try it out on my travel journal thread.

Post: #30

(05-17-2018 03:29 PM)destiny Wrote:  Ya, the more and more experience I get with women, the less and less expectations I have for them. They never seem to keep their word and I figure eventually they will disappoint me. I should be adopting an attitude of zero fucks given with any girl and being indifferent towards them.

I guess in the future I should look at them that way, "your going to let me down at some point unless you can prove yourself otherwise. Anything you tell me is all bullshit until you show me that you can follow through with your actions."

Just accept woman as who they are, imperfect.

Don't overdose on the redpill and become jaded and turn into a MGTOW.

You should adopt the attitude of a confident, successful, suave man whom every girl wants to be with and every man wants to be friends with.

Any time you meet a girl and go in with 0 expectations, let her actions dictate how you view her moreso than her words.

Quote:This is another area that I need to work on. They say you are the 5 people that you surround yourself with. This means I need to surround myself with others who are like minded as myself. I haven't come across much people, however one of my new coworkers from work seems to share a similar view as me in regards to women and dating. I'm sure in journey I will encounter even more people like this that will help shape me to be the man that I was destined to become.

That's a good view to have, just keep in mind you may want to keep your work life and life separate and may compartmentalize it in this day and age.

Just keep yourself open to meeting new people that are successful and driven.

Quote:this sounds like a really good idea. Thanks, I'm gonna try it out on my travel journal thread.

Do it! Keep it as open and honest as you can (without giving away personal details that can get you doxxed)