Post: #26

I agree with how you framed it. The greatest threat to a man’s children is their mother’s new boyfriend.

Her need for ‘gina tingles cost her her life and the lives of her kids. As Roosh mentioned, the writing was on the wall. He didn’t go from 0 to murder instantly. I’m sure there were plenty of warnings that she chose to ignore because he was exciting.

Post: #27

(04-20-2018 03:53 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Suddenly beards, lifters, and a tank are douchey thugs at the gym

That's like half of RVF who lifts.

Just back from a run up the hill to clear my head. Now, I'm sitting here in a (sweaty) tank, learning that my beard, tatts and muscles are apparently, to be frowned upon, and wondering, who exactly IS this community?

I thought we all looked like this.

Post: #28

(04-20-2018 03:53 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Suddenly beards, lifters, and a tank are douchey thugs at the gym

That's like half of RVF who lifts.

Beards, lifters, tanks combined with a criminal record for assault, spotty employment history, bankruptcy, and dating a single mom ten years older than yourself.

Post: #29

Honestly, the guys must've been scrapping the bottom of the barrel of life, or a single mothers son, if he ended up with a single mom with kids he's not responsible for. No way could a middle age woman who's pushed out several kids be that good in the sack. Dude must've had mother issues.

Post: #30

I've lifted since the mid 90s, before gyms were flooded with normies, done my fair share of steroid cycles (not for about 10 years tho) and never looked like this fucking douchebag (although far bigger at my peak.) Not every fucking lifter looks like a wannabe instagram fitness guru and presents themself in such a douchey manner. Don't confuse this look with real lifters.

Post: #31

The guy looks like a massive douche. Regardless of whatever you think of the mother, he should never see freedom again for killing two inocent teens.

Sounds like self esteem issues. What’s he doing with a woman 10 years his senior with 3 children anyways? And then she ditches him and he has to kill her? Pathetic.

Post: #32

The guy looks like a massive douche. Besides whatever you think of the mother he should never see freedom again for killing two inocent teens.

Sounds like self esteem issues. What’s he doing with a woman 10 years his senior with 3 children anyways? And then she ditches him and he has to kill her? Pathetic.

Post: #33

What's the point of all that lifting if you end up with a 39 year old beat out hag? One who clearly won't behave.

Post: #34

Obviously it's the murderer who is at fault here. But like others have said, that doesn't mean the woman's poor judgement can't be pointed out. There were many red flags with the guy, which she overlooked in the name of being a "liberated" single woman who wanted to have some fun with a bad boy. It was extremely irresponsible of her to bring a man like this into her life when her primary duty was to protect her children. I feel bad for her children who had no choice in the matter.

The truth is she could have gone for an older established man in his 40s or 50s, someone who was perhaps divorced with kids of his own also, and there would have been next to no risk to her or her children. Instead she went for a dirtbag.

I think part of the reason she went for the tingles instead of the safe option is because of the fact that in today's society, a woman is rarely shamed for her adventurous sexual selections. Anyone that knew her should have admonished her not just for bringing this dirtbag around her family, but also for seeing a younger guy at all, when a relationship like that is obviously not going to be long lasting or trouble free.

I also think it's unfortunate that the dirtbag murderer likely didn't have anyone to admonish him for getting hung up on a single mother. Then again, he clearly has problems, so who knows if that would have helped.

Post: #35

(04-19-2018 06:48 PM)Repo Wrote:  Well yeah sure dating a bad boy you should expect to have to deal with some bullshit, but it's not realistic to expect her to anticipate him murdering her and her family. Geez.

RIP

No - but the likelihood rises tremendously. It did not matter that he was lifting weights. It mattered that he was criminal and unstable.

When you are dating a bipolar crazy bitch Antifa transgender activist and then you marry her, do you also blame her for behaving batshit insane afterwards?

There are countless stories I read of girls dating ex-cons, drug dealers and other lowlifes and then get beaten up or dying in some related shootings.

When anyone of you would bring home an unstable bitch with a shaved head and facial tattoos, then your friends would not tell you to try to change her because she gives such good head. They would tell you to kick her to the curb before she kicks your life to the curb.

And this does not even mean that ex-cons can turn their lives around - I know such cases, but the change is fundamental - from Saul to Paul - not cosmetic.

And I agree that this shaming his muscles and looks is counterproductive - he looks alright and his muscles are fine. The more men look like that, the better - but his behavior is another matter. Most of us would not even date such a woman, let alone put up with the children of another man and get upset about it.

Post: #36

I'm more confused that a) non-Italian men are b) seriously, (not playfully) calling other men 'douches' now, when, from my experience, it's only ever said by Jezebel-reading Leftist Girls and jealous Gamma Soyboys who are trying to convince themselves that the object of their obsession was somehow 'tricked' into dating and banging a tall, muscular guy that other women also want to fuck, and are therefore not going to understand that the fact that this 'douche' just murdered three people is only going to guarantee him far more direct offers of sex with much higher quality poon than he was tapping, (complete with fully-nude pictures with the initial letter).

I mean, when you deny that this woman possessed Free Will and chose the man she was eventually killed by, it reads as if guys are heroically White Knighting for this, instead of wondering why he couldn't do better, particularly if he really was a 'violent thug' to begin with.



Look, it's a terrible outcome, but she chose, and who knows how complicit she was in causing the result that happened. Why take this media narrative from a rabidly-anti-male country at face value, let alone repeat their negative stereotypes about 'toxic' masculinity? Looking at him, he could just as easily have been a Beta Lifter with Mommy Issues who got pushed too far by emotional manipulation. Hell, I've known bigger pussy whipped guys at the gym than him.

Where did the skepticism go?

Post: #37

(04-20-2018 06:38 PM)king bast Wrote:  The beard itself is not the problem, it's that it doesn't come with a moustache. One without the other = fag.

This assessment is corroborated by the aggressively-straight brim of his cap - it is a mathematical law that the straightness of a hats brim is inversely proportional to the straightness of its wearer.

If you're going to quote Steven Hawking then you should attribute it.

Post: #38

(04-21-2018 05:38 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  Look, it's a terrible outcome, but she chose, and who knows how complicit she was in causing the result that happened. Why take this media narrative from a rabidly-anti-male country at face value,
Where did the skepticism go?

Hhmm. Did the kids choose? Were they complicit too?

Post: #39

(04-21-2018 02:44 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  What's the point of all that lifting if you end up with a 39 year old beat out hag? One who clearly won't behave.

Is the thirst that real in Toronto?

Post: #40

This is a douche, not a weightlifter.

Weightlifter:

Post: #41

(04-21-2018 12:00 PM)Oz. Wrote:  This is a douche, not a weightlifter.

Weightlifter:

No. Douch needs to put a shirt on.

Post: #42

Looks more like introverted Beta rage:



She is older than him and has 15 and 13 year old kids. What does a 29-year-old get riled up about here? She looks like a seasoned carousel rider who was just having fun with a Game-less muscular introverted man.

He is described as having been very jealous - yeah fits nicely. Here he is working out his body and he still gets cheated on by girls as he likely fucked only girls who actively hit on him. (This is usually not a good thing, as settling down with cougarish single mother is not healthy.) He could have been fucking 18-22 year olds in their prime, but it was more his mentality which held him back.

Have they mentioned if he took psychotropics?



I seriously doubt that he was very experienced with women and he certainly had some mental issues. The silver lining for him will be that he is now far more popular with the ladies than ever before.

Post: #43

Op might be working for deep soy. Our ranks have been infiltrated folks.

Post: #44

(04-21-2018 12:17 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Looks more like introverted Beta rage:

...

She is older than him and has 15 and 13 year old kids. What does a 29-year-old get riled up about here? She looks like a seasoned carousel rider who was just having fun with a Game-less muscular introverted man.

What makes you think that he's an introvert, and that this led to his violent rage? I don't think introverts are more likely to beat their gfs or wives.

Post: #45

The fact that he dated a woman 10 years older than him with kids is pretty good evidence he's an introvert.

Extroverts rarely date down that much. Plenty of people take steroids and get tattoos to try to make up for their lack of personality.

Not a guarantee that's his personality but I think it's a pretty good guess.

Post: #46

(04-21-2018 08:09 AM)Atticus Wrote:  

(04-21-2018 05:38 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  Look, it's a terrible outcome, but she chose, and who knows how complicit she was in causing the result that happened. Why take this media narrative from a rabidly-anti-male country at face value,
Where did the skepticism go?

Hhmm. Did the kids choose? Were they complicit too?

What's your point exactly?

That because kids were involved, that absolves her from the consequences of her actions?

Or maybe that we should feel sympathy for the kids? Well, we do. But doesn't change the fact they paid for her choice.

That we may care for innocent children's doesn't change the fact that reality doesn't care. Neither do our choices necessarily only affect us, but can have a wider blast radius.

If anything, stories like these where kids are killed just highlight how much parental responsibilities women today have abdicated.

Post: #47

(04-21-2018 08:09 AM)Atticus Wrote:  Hhmm. Did the kids choose? Were they complicit too?

No, but, as we're warned, the children pay the cost for the sins of the parents. I've noted how increasingly-legalistic spiritual matters strike me as over the last six months. Breaking the Natural Law of your own your Free Will waives your protection, and dysfunction reliably follows. Or, in religious terms, 'the wages of sin is death'.

A question I've pondered over the last twelve months is, is it fair that children are punished this way? However, we're not promised 'fairness'. We're promised that dysfunction breeds destruction, and that our own choices in that regard will be respected.

Strip the religion out of this, look at it purely-psychologically, and note the reliable patterns. Look at the collected data in studies that examine life outcomes for the children of single mothers, or look at the studies on dysfunction of children raised by lesbian mothers.

Calling the guy a 'douche' and a 'thug' based upon his appearance, rather than 'a murderer', based upon the fact he killed a family, strikes me as ressentiment borne of in-and-outgroup tribalism, and it's worth self-reflecting where that comes from, because its what drives the Left, and - increasingly - the Right.

I've written before both about gameless bodybuilders I've known and the psychological dysfunctions that lead to the 'Motherfucker' Instinct. As such, in a young stud / old hag pairing like this, I don't see a 'bad boy' and an 'innocent flower' (blue pill), I expect a 'little boy' and a 'bitch mommy' who became his entire world, because he was yet to become, psychologically, a man (red pill).

This comes out of experience with women. Roosh instinctively gets it: she would have (repeatedly) tested him to create such a violent result. I'd expect a pattern of psychological manipulation, where he came to realise Mommy's love wasn't unconditional, faced a harsh realisation that the insta-family that he used to fill the void of previous abandonment never truly included him, and that Mommy was quite prepared to fully-abandon him.

This kind of psychological breakdown are too complex a narrative for the left, particularly as it doesn't excuse the woman from culpability, so they'll default to a 'roid rage' and 'toxic masculinity' narrative. Don't help them.

Remember, dysfunctional people freely-choose each other.

Post: #48

(04-21-2018 03:39 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  I've written before both about gameless bodybuilders I've known and the psychological dysfunctions that lead to the 'Motherfucker' Instinct. As such, in a young stud / old hag pairing like this, I don't see a 'bad boy' and an 'innocent flower' (blue pill), I expect a 'little boy' and a 'bitch mommy' who became his entire world, because he was yet to become, psychologically, a man (red pill).

This comes out of experience with women. Roosh instinctively gets it: she would have (repeatedly) tested him to create such a violent result. I'd expect a pattern of psychological manipulation, where he came to realise Mommy's love wasn't unconditional, faced a harsh realisation that the insta-family that he used to fill the void of previous abandonment never truly included him, and that Mommy was quite prepared to fully-abandon him.

This kind of psychological breakdown are too complex a narrative for the left, particularly as it doesn't excuse the woman from culpability, so they'll default to a 'roid rage' and 'toxic masculinity' narrative. Don't help them.

Remember, dysfunctional people freely-choose each other.

The story reminds me more of this shortfilm that is based on actual life stories of some bodybuilders:





The guy was sorely dating down. He certainly was shit-tested heavily in private. And looking at the guy and his previous episodes with the law - he barely qualifies as a bad boy. The hot stud/old hag pairing description fits it well.

Post: #49

(04-21-2018 12:54 PM)Repo Wrote:  The fact that he dated a woman 10 years older than him with kids is pretty good evidence he's an introvert.

Extroverts rarely date down that much.

I'm pretty sure his dating down is because he's a bankrupt criminal loser, not because he's an introvert. And extroverts don't date down? Come on, man. I've known extroverts to date used up single mothers. I don't think there's a correlation there.

Post: #50