amistod
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RE: Music production
Aside from the obvious point that it almost $2,000 more than Maschine.. That does look awesome. Reminds me of this:
http://www.akaipro.com/mpc5000 at $1500
I am looking for something to bridge the gap between entry level m-audio trigger finger and full blown "I make money doing this" gear.
The other appealing thing of Maschine is the learning curve. I already know ableton in and out, the MV8000 would be a whole new thing to learn.
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Pusscrook
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RE: Music production
(09-29-2011 03:29 PM)amistod Wrote: I am using version 8, but I am not sure the exact. I am working with one hit vintage kits.. I just don't want to piano roll my drums in simpler, hence the idea of Maschine. I can't believe these guys use FL studio, but I guess it ads to their ghetto sound.
I am still learning to use the program better. I have a working knowledge of it, but I am getting down to the specifics.
I don't have a good hardware synth right now, so I am using NI FM8 layered via instrument rack to get my synth sounds.
Do you have any 3rd party soft synths? You don't need a hard synth these days especially for that kind of music. Lots of rap songs have a lot of arpeggiated riffs, so you might want to check these out if you don't have them already.. Refx nexus, Tone 2 gladiator, all the rob papen stuff, just to name a few. Also, check out "big fish audio" loop packs with one shot samples of hip hop and rap sounds. If you have ableton suite, you can load them in sampler and have millions of sounds to chop up. Just a suggestion.
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Pete
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RE: Music production
(09-26-2011 05:51 PM)Pusscrook Wrote: (09-26-2011 08:17 AM)Pete Wrote: (09-22-2011 10:53 AM)Pusscrook Wrote: (09-22-2011 10:37 AM)Pete Wrote: I am too. I produce "reggaeton", but soon I'm moving over to the US to work more on hip hop/rap/rnb/pop.
You guys record vocals too or only produce?
There's a link I can send you for recording Reggaeton vocals. Has the Wisin and Yandel settings. Vocals are stacked/panned maybe 9 deep just on lead. Are you on Gearslutz?
Sure, thanks ! send 'em over here. Yeah I'm on gearslutz ! are you? I used to be there 24/7 but I was reading too much, and doing too little. 
What gear do you guys have?
This is my gear list:
interface= steinberg mr816x
pre= gap pre73
mic= at 4047
DAW = fl studio, cubase. (Would love to have protools though, but it's $600)
monitors= m audio bx8a deluxe
headphones= sony mdr7506 dj
In my soon-to-buy list:
1. api lunchbox
2. avedis ma5
3. manley reference cardioid, brauner phanthera or a valvet x pure cardioid.
Hey Pete, trying to post that to you , but the link is dead so I will copy it for you. I got off of gearslutz years back. Too many hotheads.
As far as a gear list, I have a hybrid studio and set mine to maximize analog gear but work within a heavy digital domain .Here is what I work with.
4 apogee symphony I/O's
1. ssl xpatch to incorporate analog gear into the daw.
elyisa alpha compressor /elyisia museq eg. All analog, not the plug in versions.
1. antelope atomic clock. ( at some point you will not want to ever use internal clocks and you will hear a tremendous difference in your effects: reverb , delay.
mics: bock 151-2 bock 141, too many neumanns, sony c-800
8 power conditioners
Monitors: 4 pairs of focals, 2 pairs equator audio .
Boards: access virus synth, roland phantom, motif.
MIc pres. Neve, manley, and empiricals.
Plug-ins: you know the deal on that.
When I copy the post from gear slutz i'll post it for sure. Since you like Reggaeton, fruity loops would be your best bet. You can get an mbox for much cheaper than 600.
Pusscrook
you have a c800g? Damn, that's my dream mic. Hopefully I'll have one someday. I'd buy an apogee if I had a mac. But apple computers are too expensive for my budget
What's your opinion on preamps? I record vocals regularly. I'm planning to buy either an avedis ma5 or an avalon 737. I only have the avalon as an option because it's kind of a "standard". Everyone sees one and their eyes shine.
I will sell my mic to buy a new one. I'm thinking of buying an at 4050, and then a few months down the road get a brauner or a manley, as they're $2,000+
(09-27-2011 02:43 PM)Pusscrook Wrote: (09-26-2011 08:17 AM)Pete Wrote: (09-22-2011 10:53 AM)Pusscrook Wrote: (09-22-2011 10:37 AM)Pete Wrote: I am too. I produce "reggaeton", but soon I'm moving over to the US to work more on hip hop/rap/rnb/pop.
You guys record vocals too or only produce?
There's a link I can send you for recording Reggaeton vocals. Has the Wisin and Yandel settings. Vocals are stacked/panned maybe 9 deep just on lead. Are you on Gearslutz?
Sure, thanks ! send 'em over here. Yeah I'm on gearslutz ! are you? I used to be there 24/7 but I was reading too much, and doing too little. 
What gear do you guys have?
This is my gear list:
interface= steinberg mr816x
pre= gap pre73
mic= at 4047
DAW = fl studio, cubase. (Would love to have protools though, but it's $600)
monitors= m audio bx8a deluxe
headphones= sony mdr7506 dj
In my soon-to-buy list:
1. api lunchbox
2. avedis ma5
3. manley reference cardioid, brauner phanthera or a valvet x pure cardioid.
Hey Pete..... here is the thread on gearslutz for your Reggaeton vocal settings for Wisin and Yandel
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/rap-hip-h...ocals.html
Let me know if you need anything else. I do mostly sound tracks, voice overs , marketing ads, and all forms of electronica.
Good luck,
Pusscrook
Thank you very much for the link.
I attached the final mix of a song I'll be releasing next week. I just sent the song to the mastering engineer. Would you give me your opinion/critique on the mix and the song?
EDIT: couldn't upload the song as an attachment so here's a download link:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/z62025
(This post was last modified: 09-30-2011 10:25 PM by Pete.)
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Pusscrook
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RE: Music production
(09-30-2011 10:22 PM)Pete Wrote: (09-26-2011 05:51 PM)Pusscrook Wrote: (09-26-2011 08:17 AM)Pete Wrote: (09-22-2011 10:53 AM)Pusscrook Wrote: (09-22-2011 10:37 AM)Pete Wrote: I am too. I produce "reggaeton", but soon I'm moving over to the US to work more on hip hop/rap/rnb/pop.
You guys record vocals too or only produce?
There's a link I can send you for recording Reggaeton vocals. Has the Wisin and Yandel settings. Vocals are stacked/panned maybe 9 deep just on lead. Are you on Gearslutz?
Sure, thanks ! send 'em over here. Yeah I'm on gearslutz ! are you? I used to be there 24/7 but I was reading too much, and doing too little. 
What gear do you guys have?
This is my gear list:
interface= steinberg mr816x
pre= gap pre73
mic= at 4047
DAW = fl studio, cubase. (Would love to have protools though, but it's $600)
monitors= m audio bx8a deluxe
headphones= sony mdr7506 dj
In my soon-to-buy list:
1. api lunchbox
2. avedis ma5
3. manley reference cardioid, brauner phanthera or a valvet x pure cardioid.
Hey Pete, trying to post that to you , but the link is dead so I will copy it for you. I got off of gearslutz years back. Too many hotheads.
As far as a gear list, I have a hybrid studio and set mine to maximize analog gear but work within a heavy digital domain .Here is what I work with.
4 apogee symphony I/O's
1. ssl xpatch to incorporate analog gear into the daw.
elyisa alpha compressor /elyisia museq eg. All analog, not the plug in versions.
1. antelope atomic clock. ( at some point you will not want to ever use internal clocks and you will hear a tremendous difference in your effects: reverb , delay.
mics: bock 151-2 bock 141, too many neumanns, sony c-800
8 power conditioners
Monitors: 4 pairs of focals, 2 pairs equator audio .
Boards: access virus synth, roland phantom, motif.
MIc pres. Neve, manley, and empiricals.
Plug-ins: you know the deal on that.
When I copy the post from gear slutz i'll post it for sure. Since you like Reggaeton, fruity loops would be your best bet. You can get an mbox for much cheaper than 600.
Pusscrook
you have a c800g? Damn, that's my dream mic. Hopefully I'll have one someday. I'd buy an apogee if I had a mac. But apple computers are too expensive for my budget 
What's your opinion on preamps? I record vocals regularly. I'm planning to buy either an avedis ma5 or an avalon 737. I only have the avalon as an option because it's kind of a "standard". Everyone sees one and their eyes shine.
I will sell my mic to buy a new one. I'm thinking of buying an at 4050, and then a few months down the road get a brauner or a manley, as they're $2,000+
(09-27-2011 02:43 PM)Pusscrook Wrote: (09-26-2011 08:17 AM)Pete Wrote: (09-22-2011 10:53 AM)Pusscrook Wrote: (09-22-2011 10:37 AM)Pete Wrote: I am too. I produce "reggaeton", but soon I'm moving over to the US to work more on hip hop/rap/rnb/pop.
You guys record vocals too or only produce?
There's a link I can send you for recording Reggaeton vocals. Has the Wisin and Yandel settings. Vocals are stacked/panned maybe 9 deep just on lead. Are you on Gearslutz?
Sure, thanks ! send 'em over here. Yeah I'm on gearslutz ! are you? I used to be there 24/7 but I was reading too much, and doing too little. 
What gear do you guys have?
This is my gear list:
interface= steinberg mr816x
pre= gap pre73
mic= at 4047
DAW = fl studio, cubase. (Would love to have protools though, but it's $600)
monitors= m audio bx8a deluxe
headphones= sony mdr7506 dj
In my soon-to-buy list:
1. api lunchbox
2. avedis ma5
3. manley reference cardioid, brauner phanthera or a valvet x pure cardioid.
Hey Pete..... here is the thread on gearslutz for your Reggaeton vocal settings for Wisin and Yandel
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/rap-hip-h...ocals.html
Let me know if you need anything else. I do mostly sound tracks, voice overs , marketing ads, and all forms of electronica.
Good luck,
Pusscrook
Thank you very much for the link.
I attached the final mix of a song I'll be releasing next week. I just sent the song to the mastering engineer. Would you give me your opinion/critique on the mix and the song?
EDIT: couldn't upload the song as an attachment so here's a download link:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/z62025
Hey Pete,
Like the direction of the song. Definitely has some good potential. Don't know if that is you singing but it sounds good.I would suggest a few things before you release it . Try to let the vocals sound a bit more like they are in the song as opposed to riding on top of the song. By that I mean your backing vocals should sound as backing vocals as opposed to competing with the lead. Bury the lead so it sounds almost like an instrument but not too much. If you bury it a bit and then Stack/duplicate/double your vocals some more it will sound fuller but not over power the beat or the music itself.. What you are hearing in Reggaeton is not one voice but many that makes it sound very thick and luscious. Maybe put a slight auto tune on it, but not to chipmunkish. Bring drums out some more. Try also using different effects on lead like a bit of reverb(not too much just a hint) and a slight delay . Do this as well on some of the backing vocals. Use filter to make it sound like you or the other guy is far away, in a phone booth, etc... It sounds good and has direction, so its just a matter of a good mix, and master.. Good luck and let me know if you need anything else.
Pusscrook
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RE: Music production
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